On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:54:56 -0400, "Marsha" <mhuc...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Do like any self respecting guy would do and do it yourself.
JD
Perhaps it's a "Who gives a damn what he does" thing....? <g>
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AnneJ
Tell them to "repaint and thin no more"!
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Kelly
I bet some of us don't give a damn.
Robert(Tx)
I can tell you what *I* would do, but you do what you think is right....
Do I seek out a white painter? Do i seek out a minority
> painter.
If you are a racist, then by all means use that criteria.
Do i seek out the best job for the least price painter?
Yes. Best thing to do is talk to the references he gives you. I can
usually find a friend who can make recommendations for handyman sort of
stuff. Someone else gave good advise, buy the paint yourself and buy
the good stuff.
> What
> do i do? I'm betting some of you can't tell me what to do.
Only if you won't listen.
Dave
Actually i could have given ten or twelve options but no matter the
number, there is only one answer. Yall must never run bussinesses. You
go for the best job for the least price painter. OMG......talking about
sleeping at the wheel. :-)
I was going to suggest waiting until next summer, call your local high
school and see if they have a teen summer work program. They usually do a
good job and they get a bit of cash in their pockets.
You get what you pay for.
Dalin
Dalin
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:09:55 -0400, "Marsha" <mhuc...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
You were right, Richard was trying to prove how astute he is....
I know what I would do - I'd buy the paint, and phone a grandson! <G>
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AnneJ
You, of all people, have to ask? Go to the Home Depot parking lot and
hire an illegal day laborer. ;-)
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Dink
N 30.21, W 97.81 http://snipurl.com/whereiam
http://snipurl.com/austinweatherpixie
...or I started earlier... ;-))
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AnneJ
too lazy and inept to do it yourself?
Well, since you don't live in Toronto, Kingston or Sharbot Lake, I can't
tell you what to do. I know people in all of those places who do good work
at reasonable prices, and who have done work for me or for someone I know.
I'm surprised, with all the people you know, that you don't know how to find
a reliable painter there, yourself.
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Jane
What kind of job is it? A car? A building? A portrait? You need to
start with the specialists. For cars, look in the yellow pages for
"auto painting"...same with building...you need a building painter.
For portraits, check with your local artist's guild or an artist supply
bulletin board. Or perhaps your local community college.
> Do i go seek out a card carrying union painter?
Are you a supporter of labor unions? If so, I'd say get a union
painter. In which case, call the painter's local. They'll have a work
list. Or you can hire a painting contractor and stipulate it's a union
job.
>Do I seek out a white painter?
Someone who specializes in white painting? I don't think I've ever
heard of that.
>Do i seek out a minority painter?
Only if you're planning on painting minorities.
>Do i seek out the best job for the least price painter?
Good painters seldom come cheap. Unless they're relatives. Then it
can go either way.
>What do i do?
You're still talking about a painter now, right?
>I'm betting some of you can't tell me what to do.
Have a brownie.
Wolfie, et al
"Ricardo" <rll...@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1157563746.3...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>I need a painter...so what do i do? Do i go seek out a card carrying
> union painter? Do I seek out a white painter? Do i seek out a
> minority
> painter. Do i seek out the best job for the least price painter?
> What
> do i do? I'm betting some of you can't tell me what to do.
>
"Jane Benn" <nospamp...@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:4m9a9lF...@individual.net...
The least price is not always the best job . HOw do you YOU determne
in advance? I don't know of anybody who ever gave a bad reference.
They not going to tell you who is dissatisfied.
YOu have to guess at the integrity of the reference, of the estimator,
of everything, just a guess on it all. A feel for the honesty of the
people you deal with. IN business , never trust anyone, not even your
own father.
blake
Shirley....i said i needed a painter. You are suggesting i don't need a
painter if i wait till next summer. AND.........you surely don't need a
high school kid to paint...other things its okay.
So what you trying to say is if you hire a union man yoy going to get
better work. It's a good thing you don't run a business or you'd run it
in the ground.
My agenda was never hidden. You said that, not me. AND.....at the time
of the question, i needed a painter. But i tell you what...i know what
kind of painter to hire.
Actually we have a case in capitalism here, AnnJ. AND....there's a lot
more out there who live in it, by it but don't understand it. They just
hanging around taking notes.
i said i needed a painter. What would you do?
so Jane, are you suggesting I seek out the best job for the least price
painter. It appears you are. If so, you correct.
well, if you drive a 96 Ford taurus, you would not pay $5,000 to get it
painted, would you?
>
> > Do i go seek out a card carrying union painter?
>
> Are you a supporter of labor unions? If so, I'd say get a union
> painter. In which case, call the painter's local. They'll have a work
> list. Or you can hire a painting contractor and stipulate it's a union
> job.
I want the best job for the least pay painter. If he happens to be a
union painter, i'll hire him.
>
> >Do I seek out a white painter?
>
> Someone who specializes in white painting? I don't think I've ever
> heard of that.
that question is one of many that could have been asked. They only one
answer.
>
> >Do i seek out a minority painter?
>
> Only if you're planning on painting minorities.
That question is one of many that could have been asked. They only one
answer.
>
> >Do i seek out the best job for the least price painter?
>
> Good painters seldom come cheap. Unless they're relatives. Then it
> can go either way.
I never suggested any were cheap. Which gives one more reason to seek
the the best job for least pay painter.
>
> >What do i do?
>
> You're still talking about a painter now, right?
yes. AND......i hope i know what you would do.
>
> >I'm betting some of you can't tell me what to do.
>
> Have a brownie.
>
> Wolfie, et al
well......this all goes to show there is a plethoria of people out
there who were born, raised, live and die in a country whose economic
sytem is based on unfettered capitalism and still don't know how to
hire a painter.
LOL! Hellzbellz, son, you didn't say *I* neded a painter. You said
YOU needed one. I've already hired a painter. YOU'RE the one having
difficulties deciding how to go about it. LOL!
Wolfie, et al
I did partly run a business. In the 70s I was the Secretary Treasurer
of a small steel company. We bought steel from the large companies
such as Bethlehem and Crucible and cut it into smaller pieces and sold
to tool shops throughout the northeast. There were smaller foreign
steel companies that we could have bought from but we didn't as their
steel was cheaper but also wasn't as good.
I was involved in the office end of the business and we didn't have
computers back then. We were very dependent on our office machines,
on our warehouse tools, the saw blades, the oxygen, the reliable long
distance service and we always bought the best with the best service
and the best warranty on everything. Our reputation depended on
selling good steel and good service.
Dalin
>
>Marsha wrote:
>> I knew you had a hidden agenda. Here you had some really trying to help you
>> and you now laugh in their faces
>
>My agenda was never hidden. You said that, not me. AND.....at the time
>of the question, i needed a painter. But i tell you what...i know what
>kind of painter to hire.
So why did you ask?
Ricardo wrote:
I do it myself. I'm a man.
Axshully, we have a case of idiocy here. You're too inept and lazy to
paint it yourself. Go to the walmart parking lot and pick up an ilegal
alien day laberor or two. maybe you can pay them enough that they'll buy
one of your crackerboxes.
JD
For me it would depend upon what kind of painting is required. If it were
an outdoor job, I'd buy the paint at Home Depot and hire a worker outside
the parking lot. If the job involved interior painting, I'd get a referral
from Home Depot themselves. Both solutions would be if I couldn't con Sweet
Wife into doing the job for nothing....
...nekkid!
Wolfie, et al
> usually the ones who are listd by the BBB are satisfactory. You
> didnt say if you need scrape and paint, or if it;s new stuff. You can
> sure get stuck. If I buy the paint and make sure it's good paint, it
> usually is ok. The painters will buy the cheapest paint with the
> biggest discount, to them, and then it doesn't last anytime in our kind
> of climate. blake
>
That's a good tip, Blake. I'm going to file it away for
future reference.
--
Jean B.
> DittyDu...@webtv.net wrote:
>
>>usually the ones who are listd by the BBB are satisfactory. You
>>didnt say if you need scrape and paint, or if it;s new stuff. You can
>>sure get stuck. If I buy the paint and make sure it's good paint, it
>>usually is ok. The painters will buy the cheapest paint with the
>>biggest discount, to them, and then it doesn't last anytime in our
>>kind of climate. blake
>
>
> Tell them to "repaint and thin no more"!
>
This, OTOH, won't make it into my tip file. :-)
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Jean B.
You did not specify what you needed painting or the urgency of the matter...
If it is your house, you could always sell and move into another that does
not need painting.
OR....
If it is an inside room, you could always empty the room out, seal the door,
wallpaper over it and pretend it is not there.
<does a high kick>
<moonwalks out of the room>
;o}
OTOH? LOL
--
Kelly
>Shirley....i said i needed a painter. a
>painter a
>high school kid to paint...
>
This thread is like watching paint dry. . . .
--
Gordon Harris
I painted a hell of a lot of things when I was a high school kid.
JD
I did need a painter....LOL
That boy of mine builds houses. I'm always looking over his shoulder
from the backside when he hires subcontrators. I got lots of
subcontrator friends all over the area i've drank with, ate with, gone
to ball games with. Just good people. My inclination now is to hire
based on friendship, loyalty. My boy says "you need to hire the best
for the least price."
He is right.
well...successful computermen earn more than house painters, so you
pretty dumb with your time or you are not fair to your employees
wasting your time.
lol....painting is hard and difficult; requires the patience of jobe.
It is not cheap but get the best job for the least price.
i bet you did to.
>
>**Dalin** wrote:
>> On 7 Sep 2006 02:36:22 -0700, "Ricardo" <rll...@triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Marsha wrote:
>> >> I knew you had a hidden agenda. Here you had some really trying to help you
>> >> and you now laugh in their faces
>> >
>> >My agenda was never hidden. You said that, not me. AND.....at the time
>> >of the question, i needed a painter. But i tell you what...i know what
>> >kind of painter to hire.
>>
>> So why did you ask?
>> >
>> >
>
>That boy of mine builds houses. I'm always looking over his shoulder
>from the backside when he hires subcontrators. I got lots of
>subcontrator friends all over the area i've drank with, ate with, gone
>to ball games with. Just good people. My inclination now is to hire
>based on friendship, loyalty. My boy says "you need to hire the best
>for the least price."
>He is right.
Then why did you ask us? Don't you trust your boy? <g>
Friends are friends and business is business and shouldn't be mixed.
:-)
Dalin
> >>I was going to suggest waiting until next summer, call your local high
> >>school and see if they have a teen summer work program. They usually do a
> >>good job and they get a bit of cash in their pockets.
> >
> > Shirley....i said i needed a painter. You are suggesting i don't need a
> > painter if i wait till next summer. AND.........you surely don't need a
> > high school kid to paint...other things its okay.
> I painted a hell of a lot of things when I was a high school kid.
The town red?
--
AnneJ
It ain't what you paint it' s the way that you prepped it, ---
and the quality of the paint. Even a poor painter can smear on good
paint to cover, if someone else already scraped and caulked. Blah
heh! I wish!
Nope... it was all work. Fences, barns, houses, etc.
:-)
JD
Ricardo wrote:
> **Dalin** wrote:
>
>>On 7 Sep 2006 02:36:22 -0700, "Ricardo" <rll...@triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Marsha wrote:
>>>
>>>>I knew you had a hidden agenda. Here you had some really trying to help you
>>>>and you now laugh in their faces
>>>
>>>My agenda was never hidden. You said that, not me. AND.....at the time
>>>of the question, i needed a painter. But i tell you what...i know what
>>>kind of painter to hire.
>>
>>So why did you ask?
>>
>>>
>
> That boy of mine builds houses. I'm always looking over his shoulder
> from the backside when he hires subcontrators. I got lots of
> subcontrator friends all over the area i've drank with, ate with, gone
> to ball games with. Just good people. My inclination now is to hire
> based on friendship, loyalty. My boy says "you need to hire the best
> for the least price."
> He is right.
The why ask the group? What? One of your highly self loving motivated
"lessons" on capitalism? Who needs *you* to teach capitalism?
WTF?
JD
> So like Dalin said, why did you ask
Because he was playing silly buggers, is why....
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AnneJ
Ricardo wrote:
Are you shitting me? I have told the story countless times that I was a
painter for a few months in 1970 and I was making more than a hundred
dollars a day doing it in 1970! Painters are doing just as well or
better now even adjusting for inflation. WTF you getting at?
JD
Ricardo wrote:
lol! lol! did you get one? lol lol lol
Ricardo wrote:
lol If you already knew that then why ask the group? huh? lol lol lol
Me? I only get angry about things that matter, Marsha...Richard's
accusations of 'capitalism' doesn't sit well with me, since he's
one of the biggest capitalists here....he capitalises on peoples'
need for homes...but it's not important enough in _my_ scheme of
things to make me angry....slightly annoyed, perhaps. <g>
--
AnneJ
I love you too {{{{Marsha}}}}
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AnneJ
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:27:01 -0400, "Marsha" <mhuc...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:08:00 -0400, "Marsha" <mhuc...@bellsouth.net>
I know that you know....them chocolates were a dead giveaway,
weren't they! ;-)
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AnneJ
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:17:18 -0400, "Marsha" <mhuc...@bellsouth.net>
Aw, diddums! That'll never do....here, have a hug {{{{Dalin}}}}
Sorry, the chocolates are all gone.... <G>
--
AnneJ
I'll take the hug! Give you one back sweetiekins. :-) I'm not
suppos'd to have choco anyway - except I sometimes cheat. But I bet
it was GOOD!
{{{{{{Anne}}}}}}}
Dalin
Dalin
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:34:22 -0400, "Marsha" <mhuc...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:52:40 -0400, "Marsha" <mhuc...@bellsouth.net>
> > Oh you're probably too young to remember them. :-) Plastic beads you
> > popped together in any length, any color, or combination of colors.
> >
> I know what the are but didn't have any. I'm 63
I'm 63 (for a few more days, at least) and I had them....lots of them! <G>
--
AnneJ
> >> Did you ever have pop-it beads? They were fun!
> >>
> >Never, did I miss something in my life
> Oh you're probably too young to remember them. :-) Plastic beads you
> popped together in any length, any color, or combination of colors.
You know, that's really weird! About two hours ago Summer and Shani
were discussing what sort of necklace Shani needs to wear with a
geniune 60's
dress that she bought....and I said "pop-its"....
--
AnneJ
But they don't make them now. Fake pearls were popular then, worn
with a cardigan sweater buttoned backwards. :-) Oh! And with that
dress, a gold chain with a single pearl hanging down. That was all
the rage too. Only it was supposed to be your boyfriend who gave it
to you.
Dalin
> Jean B. wrote:
>
>>Kelly wrote:
>>
>>
>>>DittyDu...@webtv.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>usually the ones who are listd by the BBB are satisfactory. You
>>>>didnt say if you need scrape and paint, or if it;s new stuff. You
>>>>can sure get stuck. If I buy the paint and make sure it's good
>>>>paint, it usually is ok. The painters will buy the cheapest paint with
>>>>the biggest discount, to them, and then it doesn't last
>>>>anytime in our kind of climate. blake
>>>
>>>
>>>Tell them to "repaint and thin no more"!
>>>
>>
>>This, OTOH, won't make it into my tip file. :-)
>
>
> OTOH? LOL
>
I had just told Blake that her suggestion made it into my tip
file....
--
Jean B.
> "Anne Jackson" <amyg...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> You got any?
Heavens, no! I think the girls played with them when the were at
the 'dressing up' stage, and broke all the connections off.
--
AnneJ
A long string of white beads, but they won't be pop-its! <G>
--
AnneJ
Pop beads? Are you sure? I think they were still around when
Leah was a tot.
--
Jean B.
Yes, thanks, Toddy.
We didn't have a lot of screaming hot weather, which was nice.
I've been doing some consulting for my former employer, and managed to earn
enough to pay for all the expensive things I did to the cottage. I had new
windows installed in the living room/kitchen,. bedrooms, bathroom and back
porch, had an air conditioner installed (so my mother and aunt, who cannot
tolerate extreme heat, can go out there, and know they won't have to go back
to town to get cooled off), and am waiting for the new eavestroughs to
arrive, and the new siding to be put on.
The new windows are great. I can leave them open, and still get up in the
night without cracking my head on one! LOL
Of course, with a cottage on an island, you have another consideration that
Richard apparently does not consider. You have to find some way of getting
the worker(s) and all his materials to your location. I find the easiest way
is to hire a neighbour who has his own boats, and whose tools are already
all on the island. I pay directly for the materials (at the local
lumber/hardware store), and then just pay separately for the labour. Since I
am pretty flexible about when the work is done, he fits me in around his
more demanding customers, and gives me a price break. My brother can't
believe how little I paid for the window installation (either could I - I
remember what I paid for similar work in the city, where I had three
different quotes), and wanted to check the work (which he did, and found it
to be excellent)
My cousin sold his large boat (since replaced), and my mother and aunt can't
get in and out of the small one, so we borrowed the neighbour's pontoon boat
for a couple of cruises. I think I need one of those! My brother and I are
going to check them out at the boat show in January.
But now that I have the money for that, I'm saving up to come to AUstralia!
--
Jane