Oz PM Howard speaks of Iraq
Dink
The terrorists know that if democracy is installed in Iraq they have lost.
Iraq is the key to creating new hope for the people of the Middle East.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/19/1084917646034.html
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benefit of all the useful idiots. Remember that these words are from PM Howard,
and not some some disillusioned individual.
Thank you, Australia!
[But despite these serious security challenges, significant progress has been
made over the last year to rebuild that nation.
The coalition has made steady progress in restoring basic services and
infrastructure and reviving the Iraqi economy.
Electricity, water, telephone and sanitation are gradually being restored to
pre-war levels or above. Peak power production is greater than it was before the
war, as well as being much more equitably distributed. Six major water treatment
plants have been rehabilitated.
More than 15,000 mobile telephones are sold each week - under Saddam Hussein
mobile phones were outlawed. Total telephone subscriptions have now passed the 1
million mark - 20 per cent higher than under Saddam Hussein's regime.
All the universities are open and 2,500 schools have been rehabilitated
throughout the country.
All 240 hospitals as well as 1,200 health clinics are operating. More than 3
million Iraqi children under the age of five have been immunised against
preventable disease. Public health spending is now close to 60 times greater
than under the Hussein regime - when it was virtually non-existent.
Some 255 municipal councils have been established since July 2003.
The Central Criminal Court is operating. And Iraq has a single unified currency
for the first time in 15 years.
Crude oil production is already around pre-war levels. The difference now is
that the benefits flow directly to the Iraqi people.
The Coalition has also invested in 18,000 reconstruction projects, providing
thousands of jobs for local Iraqis as well as infrastructure for their future.
Inflation is stable at around 20 per cent after the terrible hyperinflation
experienced during Saddam Hussein's regime. And real GDP is forecast to recover
by 30 per cent in 2004.
Another very positive sign is the return of government ministries to Iraqi
authority, including the Ministry of Agriculture, an area where Australia is
making a significant contribution.
Moreover, Iraq now has a growing and robust independent media, which is
absolutely essential for the development and maintenance of a healthy democracy.
Even the harshest critic of the coalition's activities would find it difficult
to argue against the fact that, in large parts of Iraq, the situation is better
than it was twelve months ago and measurably better than it was under Saddam
Hussein.
In April, the Iraqi Governing Council adopted a landmark Transitional
Administrative Law, protecting the basic human rights of all Iraqis and laying
out the roadmap for an elected Iraqi government.
After 35 years of ruthless oppression and misrule, Iraq will have free elections
and a representative government.
The Iraqi Interim Government will be installed on 30th June.
It will be replaced in January 2005 by an Iraqi Transitional Government with
broader powers, which in turn will be replaced by a new Iraqi Government
following a referendum on a constitution and fresh national elections scheduled
for the end of 2005.
The Australian Government is pleased to note that the United Nations special
envoy Lakhdar Brahimi is actively consulting a wide range of Iraqi groups to
develop workable arrangements for the Interim Government.]
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>
> Iraq is the key to creating new hope for the people of the Middle East.
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/19/1084917646034.html
>
"The jihadist terrorists - taking their inspiration from organisations like
Al-Qaeda - are driven by a bigoted and distorted ideology..."
Seems Howard and Blair and Bush can't see the beams in their own eyes.
Zorg
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oppose their enemies. The jihadists's and terrorist's enemies are Howard and
Blair and Bush.
To oppose Howard and Blair and Bush provides support to that bigoted and
distorted ideology of the jihadists and terrorists.
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> The jihadists and terrorists also take inspiration from the useful idiots
who
> oppose their enemies. The jihadists's and terrorist's enemies are Howard
and
> Blair and Bush.
>
> To oppose Howard and Blair and Bush provides support to that bigoted and
> distorted ideology of the jihadists and terrorists.
>
> --
Who needs terrorists? If I had a gun, I'd shoot the c*nts myself.
Zorg
Vickie
[..]
>>To oppose Howard and Blair and Bush provides support to that bigoted and
>>distorted ideology of the jihadists and terrorists.
>>--
>
> Who needs terrorists? If I had a gun, I'd shoot the c*nts myself.
>
> Zorg
And here I was.. just trying to make friends with you.. LOL!
It makes me sad that the worst thing you can think of to call someone
is a very derogatory term for a woman's private parts. Is it a cultural
thing? Is this word acceptable across the pond? Does it mean the same thing?
Vickie.. Worms! Get your can of worms here!
Zorg
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> Zorg wrote:
> [..]
> >>To oppose Howard and Blair and Bush provides support to that bigoted and
> >>distorted ideology of the jihadists and terrorists.
> >>--
> >
> > Who needs terrorists? If I had a gun, I'd shoot the c*nts myself.
> >
> > Zorg
>
> And here I was.. just trying to make friends with you.. LOL!
Oh, bugger! Sorry.
>
> It makes me sad that the worst thing you can think of to call someone
> is a very derogatory term for a woman's private parts. Is it a cultural
> thing? Is this word acceptable across the pond? Does it mean the same
thing?
>
> Vickie.. Worms! Get your can of worms here!
I'm sure there is a cultural difference. I heard that when a mixed audience
of Americans and Brits saw a preview of American Beauty, when they got to
the part where a girl calls another schoolgirl a cunt, the Brits laughed
whereas many Americans got up and left the theatre. Is there not a movement
for women to re-appropriate the term (I'm thinking Vagina Monologues here)
in much the same way as some black people have reclaimed the word 'nigger'?
Zorg
The Americanist
women in that light. It just is not used as you use it.
I agree with Vickie this time.
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> >
> > It makes me sad that the worst thing you can think of to call someone
> > is a very derogatory term for a woman's private parts. Is it a cultural
> > thing? Is this word acceptable across the pond? Does it mean the same
> thing?
> >
> > Vickie.. Worms! Get your can of worms here!
>
> I'm sure there is a cultural difference. I heard that when a mixed audience
> of Americans and Brits saw a preview of American Beauty, when they got to
> the part where a girl calls another schoolgirl a cunt, the Brits laughed
> whereas many Americans got up and left the theatre. Is there not a movement
> for women to re-appropriate the term (I'm thinking Vagina Monologues here)
> in much the same way as some black people have reclaimed the word 'nigger'?
>
> Zorg
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>In this part of the world it is extremely derogatory and is only directed at
>women in that light. It just is not used as you use it.
>
>I agree with Vickie this time.
>
>
>
Clark, this is an international group. Remember the discussion recently
about the word "rag"? What's very negative to one is pretty normal to
others.
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terms shouldn't be used in any context.
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lamb
>Yeah, and I remember the discussions about the term "wetback" also. But some
>terms shouldn't be used in any context.
>
>
>
Depends on where you live.
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Zorg
One of my after dinner stories is how the French (allegedly) ask for their
omelettes 'as soft as a cunt'. When I was visiting my parents last year
(they live on the other side of the world from me), I did a cleaned-up
version of it for them and their friends, where I only used 'c-word'. It
completely ruined the effect.
Zorg
lamb
>> Clark, this is an international group. Remember the discussion recently
>> about the word "rag"? What's very negative to one is pretty normal to
>> others.
>>
>> --
>> Loes
>
>One of my after dinner stories is how the French (allegedly) ask for their
>omelettes 'as soft as a cunt'. When I was visiting my parents last year
>(they live on the other side of the world from me), I did a cleaned-up
>version of it for them and their friends, where I only used 'c-word'. It
>completely ruined the effect.
>
>Zorg
>
>
Hehe ......... spoils the omelette!
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Vickie
[the C-word]
>>[..]Is it a cultural thing? Is this word acceptable across the pond?
>> Does it mean the same thing?
>
>>Vickie.. Worms! Get your can of worms here!
>
>
> I'm sure there is a cultural difference. I heard that when a mixed
audience
> of Americans and Brits saw a preview of American Beauty, when they got to
> the part where a girl calls another schoolgirl a cunt, the Brits laughed
> whereas many Americans got up and left the theatre. Is there not a
movement
> for women to re-appropriate the term (I'm thinking Vagina Monologues
here)
> in much the same way as some black people have reclaimed the word
'nigger'?
> Zorg
Yes, I thought it might be a cultural thing, and I forgive you sire. I
am not really hard-core when it comes to swearing.. the f-word doesn't
bother me at all.. but, boy do I cringe when I hear the c-word. (What's
that you say? You think I must be called that quite often? No! Haha!)
I wish we women *could* reclaim C*nt from the swearword category.. also
Tw*t. Words that describe possibly one of the most amazing things on
this good earth, something which can provide indescribable pleasures.
It is delicate, yet strong... what a fantastic entrance for our way into
this world.. and a magical place that many expend a great deal of time
and energy to get back into, I might add.
Yes, these words are considered very offensive in the US.. these slang
words for female genitalia. Like I said, it makes me very sad that the
most abusive or contemptuous swearwords that one can hurl at another are
crude terms for my most private parts...the basis for my femininity.
I prefer gender-netural swearwords -- like sh*thead.. or a**hole...
Vickie.. humming "Magical Mystery Tour" for some reason.. ;-)
Val Adams
Ahh, memories...young lady carrying a signpost,picture of an adorable
kitten...rebus text: My ...... is Not Obscene!
Zorg
>
> Yes, I thought it might be a cultural thing, and I forgive you sire.
Thank you. I'd hate to get off on the wrong foot.
> I am not really hard-core when it comes to swearing.. the f-word doesn't
> bother me at all.. but, boy do I cringe when I hear the c-word. (What's
> that you say? You think I must be called that quite often? No! Haha!)
>
> I wish we women *could* reclaim C*nt from the swearword category.. also
> Tw*t. Words that describe possibly one of the most amazing things on
> this good earth, something which can provide indescribable pleasures.
>
> It is delicate, yet strong... what a fantastic entrance for our way into
> this world.. and a magical place that many expend a great deal of time
> and energy to get back into, I might add.
>
> Yes, these words are considered very offensive in the US.. these slang
> words for female genitalia. Like I said, it makes me very sad that the
> most abusive or contemptuous swearwords that one can hurl at another are
> crude terms for my most private parts...the basis for my femininity.
>
> I prefer gender-netural swearwords -- like sh*thead.. or a**hole...
>
Where I come from originally (Yorkshire), we have some choice phrases for
expressing contempt. 'Spawny-eyed wazzock' is one example. 'Gormless git' is
another that springs to mind. Neither of those is gender specific. I'm not a
particularly sexist person, quite in tune with my inner-woman, actually :)
My step-dad is Australian. Over there, they use 'bastard' as a term of
endearment. He would swear quite a lot under normal circumstances, but my
mother doesn't like it a bit, so he tends not to. When I was over there last
year, and I let the occasional one slip, there was a definite twinkle in his
eye.
I think the British people often use swearing for humorous effect, too. In a
school I used to work at, the head of design and technology once told me he
had a wonderful mantra for dealing with stress at work. I said 'oh, what's
that?' His reply was 'bugger-bastard, bugger-bastard, bugger-bastard,WANK!'
> Vickie.. humming "Magical Mystery Tour" for some reason.. ;-)
Not "Fool On The Hill" I hope :)
Zorg
PS You'll have heard of the word 'yoni' I imagine. It doesn't sound half as
crude as the c-word, does it?
Val Adams
chuckle; I have, and I expect Vickie has;
unfortunately, the people I most often want to call 'lingham-heads' probably
haven't...
Val in SoCal
Marian
cannot appreciate an apology when you read one.
Marian<who believes Clarke would do well to pick his battles with more care<G>
>In this part of the world it is extremely derogatory and is only directed at
>women in that light. It just is not used as you use it.
>
>I agree with Vickie this time.
>
>--
>Regards, Clark in Round Rock Texas USA
>> > It makes me sad that the worst thing you can think of to call someone
>> > is a very derogatory term for a woman's private parts. Is it a cultural
>> > thing? Is this word acceptable across the pond? Does it mean the same
>> thing?
>> >
>> > Vickie.. Worms! Get your can of worms here!
>> I'm sure there is a cultural difference. I heard that when a mixed audience
>> of Americans and Brits saw a preview of American Beauty, when they got to
>> the part where a girl calls another schoolgirl a cunt, the Brits laughed
>> whereas many Americans got up and left the theatre. Is there not a movement
>> for women to re-appropriate the term (I'm thinking Vagina Monologues here)
>> in much the same way as some black people have reclaimed the word 'nigger'?
>>
>> Zorg
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>at
>> >women in that light. It just is not used as you use it.
>> >
>> >I agree with Vickie this time.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Clark, this is an international group. Remember the discussion recently
>> about the word "rag"? What's very negative to one is pretty normal to
>> others.
>>
>> --
>> Loes
>
>One of my after dinner stories is how the French (allegedly) ask for their
>omelettes 'as soft as a cunt'. When I was visiting my parents last year
>(they live on the other side of the world from me), I did a cleaned-up
>version of it for them and their friends, where I only used 'c-word'. It
>completely ruined the effect.
>
>Zorg
At a women's luncheon in a private home, I saw a French matron tell a joke with
gestures that had to do with the different meanings for spoon... This reminds
me of that. It was hilariously filthy.
Marian<g>
Marian
Lovely, true sentiments, you brave girl! Marian
Vickie
[snip discussion of the c-word]
>>Vickie.. humming "Magical Mystery Tour" for some reason.. ;-)
>
>
> Lovely, true sentiments, you brave girl! Marian
(sheepish grin) I think it was the Merlot wot gave me courage...
V
Vickie
> Vickie wrote:
>> [the C-word]
>> >>[..]Is it a cultural thing? Is this word acceptable across the pond?
>> >> Does it mean the same thing?
[..]
> Ahh, memories...young lady carrying a signpost,picture of an adorable
> kitten...rebus text: My ...... is Not Obscene!
Yes! I remember that one.. my, where has the time gone?
Vic
Bobbie
My Word, this must be a first for me....a discussion about cultural
trends in swear words......LOL....
I don't use the C-word, I personally don't like it but I did
inadvertently use the Tw*T word quite often until my daughter told me
it's meaning....I still tend to forget at times. it sort of, I was going
to say 'slides off the tongue' but no doubt that will mean something
else to someone....<vbg>
It is definitely a personal thing. After 3 years in the Wrens it would
be silly of me to say I have never used the F-word, it tended to be
quite widely used in the Mess, but I can say in all honestly, when in
the NAAFI in mixed company I never heard a great deal of
swearing......Now the Officers Mess was a different kettle of fish.....
Bobbie:-)
Vickie
[..]
> Where I come from originally (Yorkshire), we have some choice phrases for
> expressing contempt. 'Spawny-eyed wazzock' is one example. 'Gormless git' is
> another that springs to mind.
I like those.. they remind me of that Shakespeare name-calling site.
Around here you're more likely to hear "you dadgum no-good dirty, rotten
low-down yellow-bellied, snake in the grass"...
>Neither of those is gender specific. I'm not a
> particularly sexist person, quite in tune with my inner-woman, actually :)
That's always nice to hear.. it takes a secure man to tap into this.
> I think the British people often use swearing for humorous effect, too. In a
> school I used to work at, the head of design and technology once told me he
> had a wonderful mantra for dealing with stress at work. I said 'oh, what's
> that?' His reply was 'bugger-bastard, bugger-bastard, bugger-bastard,WANK!'
Heheh.. you could yell that from the rooftops over here and no one would
bat an eye. We use "bastard" affectionately here too.. and bugger only
means to pester someone.. they wouldn't understand "wank" though.
> PS You'll have heard of the word 'yoni' I imagine. It doesn't sound half as
> crude as the c-word, does it?
No it doesn't. It's a lovely word.. from a much older culture than
ours.. one where women are highly respected and life-giving yonis are
thought sacred. I think the c-word originally derived from the Tantric
Goddess Kunti? Anyway, only me and about three other people know what it
means out here in the badlands of Oklahomastan. ;-)
I have a Yoni Sisterhood T-shirt.. printed with one of Georgia O'Keefe's
sensual flower paintings. My elderly aunt caught me wearing it one day,
peered closely and asked, "What in tarnation is that?" "A beautiful
flower, auntie." "Well, I'd hate to tell you what it looks like."
Anyway, welcome again Zorg.. and please don't judge this newsgroup by
me. None of the fine ladies here would welcome a newbie and almost
immediately launch into so intimate a discussion.. ;-)
Vickie
Bobbie
Baa,Baa,Baa, dis lil sheepee, dunt no dat verd, doze verds, pliz tellum
deez verds.....dem gud?. dem werry, werry nawty?
nuvver Sheepee;-)
Vickie
>Date: 5/21/04
[..]
>My Word, this must be a first for me....a discussion about cultural
>trends in swear words......LOL....
>I don't use the C-word, I personally don't like it but I did
>inadvertently use the Tw*T word quite often until my daughter told me
>it's meaning....
;-) I talked to my Brit friend in Dallas last night.. she said that Brit men
call other men those two terms, that it's very common and no one thinks
anything of it.
I was raised in a military town.. started overhearing such "colorful" language
early on. But never from my grandparents. Gran's favorite expression was "Duck
Butter!" When he was really steamed, Gramps used to say, "It makes my a** want
to dip snuff!" Heheh.. that still makes me laugh. (Snuff is powdered tobacco
that's held btw gums and lip)
The only time I cuss these days is when I hit my thumb with a hammer. The
S-word is my very favorite.
Vickie.. having to use AOL, the German newsreader snubs me today.. also the
Polish one, Noworyta..
~~~~~~
Incorrigible -- Do Not Incorrige
Val Adams
Ewe gnow Ainchen Flok Vise-verd,'Sheepee iss Sheepee iss Sheepee' ?
Beh, iss nodt lyke dat vit hoomin;hoomin godt vizeweul defek, zee ony bits uf
udder hoomin; vizeweul defek leed 2 lojik defek: dey den zay, baaad/gudt, bit
dat shose, den baaad/gudt ole hoomin.
(oness, ve nodt tri fuulink lidl sheepee, dey reely tink dis!)
Godt green/nodt green voolee? baaad; smak 'em.
Godt horn/gno horn? baaad; smak 'em.
Godt bits mix oop hin shippink? Hoo, bye! smak 'em Ard, zend 2 knakkery!
Zo; 4 hoomin, lingham/yoni iss ram bits/ewe bits;
bud iff gudt/nawty iss gno vay 2 gnow, ony frum vare ewe ztandink hin pasdure..
Ve hopink dis elp zum; hoomin werry werry funnee flok...!
Hugginks!
8;><;*
Zorg
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> >
> > PS You'll have heard of the word 'yoni' I imagine. It doesn't sound half
as
> > crude as the c-word, does it?
> >
>
> chuckle; I have, and I expect Vickie has;
> unfortunately, the people I most often want to call 'lingham-heads'
probably
> haven't...
>
> Val in SoCal
Heh! A bloke I used to work with who had an Indian wife told me Lingam is
quite a common surname in India, and no one bats an eyelid about its
connotations.
Zorg
Zorg
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> But, but...you've never heard of either of those award-winning dramas and
> cannot appreciate an apology when you read one.
>
> Marian<who believes Clarke would do well to pick his battles with more
care<G>
>
<snickers like Muttley>
Zorg
Zorg
>
> No it doesn't. It's a lovely word.. from a much older culture than
> ours.. one where women are highly respected and life-giving yonis are
> thought sacred. I think the c-word originally derived from the Tantric
> Goddess Kunti? Anyway, only me and about three other people know what it
> means out here in the badlands of Oklahomastan. ;-)
Oklahomastan? I like it :)
>
> I have a Yoni Sisterhood T-shirt.. printed with one of Georgia O'Keefe's
> sensual flower paintings. My elderly aunt caught me wearing it one day,
> peered closely and asked, "What in tarnation is that?" "A beautiful
> flower, auntie." "Well, I'd hate to tell you what it looks like."
That's a nice visual :)
>
> Anyway, welcome again Zorg.. and please don't judge this newsgroup by
> me. None of the fine ladies here would welcome a newbie and almost
> immediately launch into so intimate a discussion.. ;-)
>
> Vickie
Of course.
Nor would I talk about sexual matters in anything less than 3 easy moves :-P
Zorg