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JC

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Dec 24, 2009, 8:35:04 AM12/24/09
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While bubbles burst around the nation, Texas booms.
U.S. Census estimates released Wednesday show that Texas added more
residents than any other state in the year ending July 1.
The Lone Star State has 478,000 more people than it did a year ago �
roughly the equivalent of packing up all of Fresno, Calif., and moving
it here.
Why the growth? Try looking for work in Fresno, where the unemployment
rate is nearly 16 percent.
The economic downturn did not dodge Texas, of course, but relative to
other states, Texas has it good, demographers say � lower unemployment
and a more stable housing market.
In that context, finishing first in the year's population race is more
survival than victory, experts say.
�In certain respects, Texas was the only state left standing during
the last recession, so the competitors for migration kind of all went
away,� said Texas state demographer Karl Eschbach of the University of
Texas at San Antonio.
The Texas unemployment rate last month was 8 percent, compared with 10
percent nationally. Home sales and prices in the Houston area haven't
fallen nearly as much as they have in other markets that saw prices
soar during the boom and later crash.
Darlene Cunneen is a 49-year-old manager of tax compliance who moved
to northwest Houston early this month when BP relocated her from
Chicago.
�If BP hadn't said, �Your job is moving,' I don't think I'd be
clamoring to say I want to move to Houston,� Cunneen said, but she
enjoys the warmer weather, the mix of languages she hears on her jogs
in Memorial Park and gainful employment.
�It does seem like Houston is not in as bad shape as other areas of
the U.S,� she said.
Though the overall populations of California, Nevada and Florida
increased because of immigration, all had more people leave than move
in from other states in the past year.
�There's no place to move other than Texas,� Eschbach said.
The new numbers and what they portend lend credence to both boosters
and Cassandras.
�Growth has been the religion of Houston and Texas,� said Stephen
Klineberg, a sociology professor at Rice University. �That's a measure
of our virtue and success.�
The population of Texas has grown to 24.8 million, second only to
California. Just the growth of the Texas population since 2000 � 3.9
million people � is greater than the population of 24 states.
If that trend continues through the official decennial count next
year, Texas stands to gain four seats in the U.S. House of
Representatives, Eschbach noted.
On the other hand, Klineberg said, as growth's byproducts � traffic,
pollution and reduced green space � become more evident, concern about
growth is much more a part of public discourse.
�What was striking was the degree of consensus among the three leading
candidates for mayor all talking about the need for some kind of
comprehensive plan to guide the future growth. You would never see
that before,� Klineberg said.
The Houston Area Survey conducted by Klineberg traces changing
attitudes in the growing city. For example, 62 percent of survey
respondents last year reported that they believed an improved mass
transit system is very important to Houston's future success, compared
with 47 percent in 1991.

ylem

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Dec 24, 2009, 11:48:39 AM12/24/09
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If you weigh external benefit against external cost, more people
usually produces more negative externalities than positive.
But then, that external cost must include seemingly intangible "costs"
like loss of natural habitat for flora and fauna, increased traffic,
befouled air and water, loss of personal space, increased regulation
of and surveillance over personal behavior ... oh boy, what fun!

And this is an axiomatic relationship. It's inescapable. Too many cows
at a water hole turns a pleasant stream into a shitty mud pit.

Megalopolis, spreading like a cancer across the Earth, that's Houston.

I've been to Houston. Anyone who wants it can have it. It's like
LA ... a giant toaster oven, but with
none of our funky "Left-Coast" charm.
:)

And the same can be said about most cities. There are exceptions ...
cities that struggle to maintain livable environments, positive human
habitats. (It can be done...and usually the positive externalities out-
weight the negative "costs" ... except to a socially retarded greedy
few.)

Also ... you're missing the whole point of the human abandonment of
places like dying Detroit.
Maybe those vast forests will start to grow back? (Maybe Michell
Bachmann will lose her seat in Congress to enterprising beavers and
woodchucks?.)
:)
The city of Detroit should acquire and demolish every abandoned
structure in the city and convert the land to either urban farms or
forest habitat.
It might just turn into a pleasant small town some day.
Ylem

Geno4321

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Dec 24, 2009, 11:48:55 AM12/24/09
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"JC" <jc4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mcedndF7m7qO867W...@giganews.com...

> While bubbles burst around the nation, Texas booms.
> U.S. Census estimates released Wednesday show that Texas added more
> residents than any other state in the year ending July 1.
> The Lone Star State has 478,000 more people than it did a year ago �
> roughly the equivalent of packing up all of Fresno, Calif., and moving it
> here.
> Why the growth? Try looking for work in Fresno, where the unemployment
> rate is nearly 16 percent.
> The economic downturn did not dodge Texas, of course, but relative to
> other states, Texas has it good, demographers say � lower unemployment and
> a more stable housing market.
> In that context, finishing first in the year's population race is more
> survival than victory, experts say.
> �In certain respects, Texas was the only state left standing during the
> last recession, so the competitors for migration kind of all went away,�
> said Texas state demographer Karl Eschbach of the University of Texas at
> San Antonio.
> The Texas unemployment rate last month was 8 percent, compared with 10
> percent nationally. Home sales and prices in the Houston area haven't
> fallen nearly as much as they have in other markets that saw prices soar
> during the boom and later crash.
> Darlene Cunneen is a 49-year-old manager of tax compliance who moved to
> northwest Houston early this month when BP relocated her from Chicago.
> �If BP hadn't said, �Your job is moving,' I don't think I'd be clamoring
> to say I want to move to Houston,� Cunneen said, but she enjoys the warmer
> weather, the mix of languages she hears on her jogs in Memorial Park and
> gainful employment.
> �It does seem like Houston is not in as bad shape as other areas of the
> U.S,� she said.

> Though the overall populations of California, Nevada and Florida increased
> because of immigration, all had more people leave than move in from other
> states in the past year.
> �There's no place to move other than Texas,� Eschbach said.

> The new numbers and what they portend lend credence to both boosters and
> Cassandras.
> �Growth has been the religion of Houston and Texas,� said Stephen
> Klineberg, a sociology professor at Rice University. �That's a measure of
> our virtue and success.�

> The population of Texas has grown to 24.8 million, second only to
> California. Just the growth of the Texas population since 2000 � 3.9
> million people � is greater than the population of 24 states.

> If that trend continues through the official decennial count next year,
> Texas stands to gain four seats in the U.S. House of Representatives,
> Eschbach noted.
> On the other hand, Klineberg said, as growth's byproducts � traffic,
> pollution and reduced green space � become more evident, concern about
> growth is much more a part of public discourse.
> �What was striking was the degree of consensus among the three leading
> candidates for mayor all talking about the need for some kind of
> comprehensive plan to guide the future growth. You would never see that
> before,� Klineberg said.

> The Houston Area Survey conducted by Klineberg traces changing attitudes
> in the growing city. For example, 62 percent of survey respondents last
> year reported that they believed an improved mass transit system is very
> important to Houston's future success, compared with 47 percent in 1991.

Yea and when those Yankees get a good smell of a Wet Back Texan, they will
be leaving the state fast enought. I surer did.

Bob G.

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:01:17 PM12/24/09
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On Dec 24, 6:35 am, "JC" <jc46...@yahoo.com> wrote:

More damn yankees coming to Texas? It seems Santa Ana had the same
complaint. You might try California's solution and put the State
Police and National Guard at the border and if they "Don't have the do-
re-me" (Woody Guthrie) trun 'em back. <g>

Bob G

Dink

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:12:37 PM12/24/09
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That was Californee before the libs took it over. Libs don't guard
borders, or hadn't you noticed?

--
Dink {Vox clamantis in deserto}
N 30.21, W 97.81 http://snurl.com/whereiam
<br>http://snurl.com/austinweatherpixie
Arbeit macht frei.

Bob G.

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:23:27 PM12/24/09
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On Dec 24, 10:12 am, Dink <Skrael...@invalid.domain> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:01:17 -0800 (PST), Bob G. wrote:
> >On Dec 24, 6:35 am, "JC" <jc46...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >More damn yankees coming to Texas? It seems Santa Ana had the same
> >complaint.  You might try California's solution and put the State
> >Police and National Guard at the border and if they "Don't have the do-
> >re-me" (Woody Guthrie) turn 'em back. <g>

>
> >Bob G
>
> That was Californee before the libs took it over. Libs don't guard
> borders, or hadn't you noticed?
>
> --
> Dink  {Vox clamantis in deserto}
> N 30.21, W 97.81  http://snurl.com/whereiam
> <br>http://snurl.com/austinweatherpixie
> Arbeit macht frei.

Do the libs control Texas?

Bob G

seymore

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:33:42 PM12/24/09
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not currently. ewe really are stupid, ewe know.

JD

seymore

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:36:53 PM12/24/09
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heh! what a non sequitur statment. ewe go everywher but to the real
point. places like detroit and virtually ALL severly depressed and
broke places in the USA are under liberal control. sensible folks flee
the tyranny of commie-pinko-liberal ruination. it really is as simple
as that.

enjoy ewer depravity, libs.. ewe've earned it.

JD

seymore

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:41:43 PM12/24/09
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On Dec 24, 7:35 am, "JC" <jc46...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> While bubbles burst around the nation, Texas booms.
> U.S. Census estimates released Wednesday show that Texas added more
> residents than any other state in the year ending July 1.
> The Lone Star State has 478,000 more people than it did a year ago —

> roughly the equivalent of packing up all of Fresno, Calif., and moving
> it here.
> Why the growth? Try looking for work in Fresno, where the unemployment
> rate is nearly 16 percent.
> The economic downturn did not dodge Texas, of course, but relative to
> other states, Texas has it good, demographers say — lower unemployment

> and a more stable housing market.
> In that context, finishing first in the year's population race is more
> survival than victory, experts say.
> “In certain respects, Texas was the only state left standing during

> the last recession, so the competitors for migration kind of all went
> away,” said Texas state demographer Karl Eschbach of the University of

> Texas at San Antonio.
> The Texas unemployment rate last month was 8 percent, compared with 10
> percent nationally. Home sales and prices in the Houston area haven't
> fallen nearly as much as they have in other markets that saw prices
> soar during the boom and later crash.
> Darlene Cunneen is a 49-year-old manager of tax compliance who moved
> to northwest Houston early this month when BP relocated her from
> Chicago.
> “If BP hadn't said, ‘Your job is moving,' I don't think I'd be
> clamoring to say I want to move to Houston,” Cunneen said, but she

> enjoys the warmer weather, the mix of languages she hears on her jogs
> in Memorial Park and gainful employment.
> “It does seem like Houston is not in as bad shape as other areas of
> the U.S,” she said.

> Though the overall populations of California, Nevada and Florida
> increased because of immigration, all had more people leave than move
> in from other states in the past year.
> “There's no place to move other than Texas,” Eschbach said.

> The new numbers and what they portend lend credence to both boosters
> and Cassandras.
> “Growth has been the religion of Houston and Texas,” said Stephen
> Klineberg, a sociology professor at Rice University. “That's a measure
> of our virtue and success.”

> The population of Texas has grown to 24.8 million, second only to
> California. Just the growth of the Texas population since 2000 — 3.9
> million people — is greater than the population of 24 states.

> If that trend continues through the official decennial count next
> year, Texas stands to gain four seats in the U.S. House of
> Representatives, Eschbach noted.
> On the other hand, Klineberg said, as growth's byproducts — traffic,
> pollution and reduced green space — become more evident, concern about

> growth is much more a part of public discourse.
> “What was striking was the degree of consensus among the three leading

> candidates for mayor all talking about the need for some kind of
> comprehensive plan to guide the future growth. You would never see
> that before,” Klineberg said.

> The Houston Area Survey conducted by Klineberg traces changing
> attitudes in the growing city. For example, 62 percent of survey
> respondents last year reported that they believed an improved mass
> transit system is very important to Houston's future success, compared
> with 47 percent in 1991.

the flight of sensable people from the rust belt has been going on
since the 70's. places under the control of commie-pinko-liberal
governance drives out business and taxpaying citizens. shit hole
cities like detroit, shitcago and whole states like MI and MA and CA
go under because of liberal control. just look at the facts.

well... some years ago in the late 70's we had a bumper sticker in
Texas that was the state flag with the words "NO VACANCY" on it.
Another was "let the yankee bastards freeze in the dark!"

In other words.. there are plenty of natives who are not all that
pleased with the massive influx of nasty freaking yankees.

JD

Joan F (MI)

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Dec 24, 2009, 1:21:22 PM12/24/09
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Such plans are being discussed and there are some beginnings of urban
agriculture.

Dink

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Dec 24, 2009, 1:44:04 PM12/24/09
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Remember, the National Park Service found lead in Michelle ma Belle's
White House kitchen garden soil. Naturally it was later deemed to be
below hazardous levels, probably to avert a publicity disaster. They
are probably still buying the White House organic arigula at Whole
Foods or Sprouts.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/23/white-house-garden-opinions-contributors-jeff-stier.html

This is a common problem with urban agriculture. The soil often
contains lead, zinc, cadmium, or arsenic and old lace.

--

Jean B.

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Dec 24, 2009, 2:18:05 PM12/24/09
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Joan F (MI) wrote:
> Such plans are being discussed and there are some beginnings of urban
> agriculture.
>

I really, really like such ideas.
--
Jean B.

JC

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Dec 24, 2009, 2:39:03 PM12/24/09
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<G>

JC

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Dec 24, 2009, 2:39:16 PM12/24/09
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<G>

ylem

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Dec 24, 2009, 3:06:33 PM12/24/09
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On Dec 24, 9:12 am, Dink <Skrael...@invalid.domain> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:01:17 -0800 (PST), Bob G. wrote:
> >On Dec 24, 6:35 am, "JC" <jc46...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >More damn yankees coming to Texas? It seems Santa Ana had the same
> >complaint.  You might try California's solution and put the State
> >Police and National Guard at the border and if they "Don't have the do-
> >re-me" (Woody Guthrie) trun 'em back. <g>
>
> >Bob G
>
> That was Californee before the libs took it over. Libs don't guard
> borders, or hadn't you noticed?
>
> --
> Dink  

Wrong again! (You just make a habit of it don't you?)
I favor virtually closing our border with Mexico. (There's a war on
down there ... you know.)
THAT'S where our military belongs, on our own border ... not over in
that Middle Eastern cesspit protecting Halliburton's investments.

If ithat stinking desert is someone's "Holy Land" ... then they are
welcome to book a flight to either that shit hole Mecca or that
equally obnoxious shit hole Jerusalem.

But then, I am more than enthusiastic about sending all our
Reactionary Red Necks to Tejas.
:)
Ylem

ylem

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Dec 24, 2009, 3:19:36 PM12/24/09
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On Dec 24, 10:21 am, "Joan F \(MI\)" <jjf...@removethisameritech.net>
wrote:

> Such plans are being discussed and there are some beginnings of urban
> agriculture.

If Fate sends you lemons ...
:)

I remember reading the history of Old Michigan and the Great Lakes
region ... it was a fantastic place, once upon a time ... better than
that hot, flat, dusty Texas any day.

Had ancestors that fought at Fort Detroit, serving with the Canadian
Militia the War of 1812. They were from Kingston Ontario.
.
It was a wonderland of lakes and forests ...
:)
Ylem

seymore

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Dec 24, 2009, 3:33:04 PM12/24/09
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but Sir Dink is correct. the libs DO_NOT_PROTECT the border. ewe,
being quite confused and mentally unstable, simply are at odds with
liberal dogma when it comes to the borders. same true with ewer gun
carrying habits. ewe have a dose of dementia regarding ewer liberal
religion and ewer actual life. I suppose that is why ewe hermit
ewerself... obviously social inept, introverted, and most likely
dangerous.

JD

Bob G.

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:08:19 PM12/24/09
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> JD- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Merry Christmas, JD, you old Curmudgeon. Hope Santa brings you some
new CDs, the one you are playing now gets stuck on the same track.

Bob G

Joan F (MI)

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:15:16 PM12/24/09
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When Detroit was built there were "strip" farms, each with a bit of
waterfront and a strip of land stretching back into the interior. How's
that for sharing the good things.

seymore

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:30:24 PM12/24/09
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ewe are very much a child. I got a heartbreak for ewe!
there_is_no_such_thing as Santa.

sorry... but ewe libs live in a fantasy world and someone has to bring
ewe out of it.

JD

ylem

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Dec 24, 2009, 5:22:39 PM12/24/09
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On Dec 24, 1:15 pm, "Joan F \(MI\)" <jjf...@removethisameritech.net>
wrote:

> When Detroit was built there were "strip" farms, each with a bit of
> waterfront and a strip of land stretching back into the interior.  How's
> that for sharing the good things.

And all those islands and lakes, teaming with fish ... and the game
that used to be there ... and the forests ...
:)
Ylem

ylem

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Dec 24, 2009, 5:22:50 PM12/24/09
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On Dec 24, 1:15 pm, "Joan F \(MI\)" <jjf...@removethisameritech.net>
wrote:

> When Detroit was built there were "strip" farms, each with a bit of
> waterfront and a strip of land stretching back into the interior.  How's
> that for sharing the good things.

And all those islands and lakes, teaming with fish ... and the game

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