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Chive Mynde

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Oct 18, 2001, 12:59:45 AM10/18/01
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Wednesday October 17 8:58 PM ET

Wal-Mart Employee Sues for Benefits

ATLANTA (AP) - A Wal-Mart employee has filed a sex-discrimination
lawsuit against the company, claiming that denial of health insurance
coverage for prescription contraceptives is unfair to women workers.

The class-action suit was filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in
Atlanta by Lisa Smith Mauldin, a customer-service manager employed by
Wal-Mart since 1996, the National Women's Law Center said Wednesday.

Mauldin, a 22-year-old divorced mother of two earning about $12 an
hour, has been eligible for Wal-Mart Stores Inc. employee health
insurance since she started working full-time in March 2000, the
Washington-based group said.

It said the $29.84 that Mauldin pays out-of-pocket each month for
birth control pills is a financial burden.

``In refusing to cover contraceptives, Wal-Mart is denying basic
medical care to its women employees,'' said Janine Pollack, one of the
lawyers who filed the suit.

Wal-Mart spokesman Tom Williams said he had not seen the suit and
would not comment on it.

``For almost 1 million employees, we offer excellent benefits, and we
attempt very hard to assist all of our employees and cover all of
them,'' he said.

Those who are pushing for requirements that group health insurance
cover birth control say about a third of traditional health plans
cover contraceptive pills, but millions of women still have to pay at
least $300 a year out of their own pockets. Other prescription
methods, such as intrauterine devices, injections, implants and
diaphragms, can cost even more, supporters say.

In June, a federal judge declared that it was unlawful discrimination
to offer less complete insurance coverage to female workers than to
males.

In December, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission ruled that it
was against federal law for employers to exclude contraceptives from
their health insurance plans when they cover other preventive
treatments.
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Science is not belief, but the will to fnd out.

AJ

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Oct 18, 2001, 1:31:06 AM10/18/01
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I'm confused. I see nowhere that it mentions men are receiving a benefit
that women are not. So how is that sex discrimination of any kind?

"Chive Mynde" <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Sky King

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Oct 18, 2001, 5:54:55 PM10/18/01
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In article <ccd55c9c.01101...@posting.google.com>,
chyve...@my-deja.com says...
Hell I say let him pay for their birth control. We don't want these
bitches breeding. chuckle
sky

Bob

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Oct 18, 2001, 7:49:12 PM10/18/01
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Chive Mynde wrote:

> Wednesday October 17 8:58 PM ET
>
> Wal-Mart Employee Sues for Benefits
>
> ATLANTA (AP) - A Wal-Mart employee has filed a sex-discrimination
> lawsuit against the company, claiming that denial of health insurance
> coverage for prescription contraceptives is unfair to women workers.
>
> The class-action suit was filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in
> Atlanta by Lisa Smith Mauldin, a customer-service manager employed by
> Wal-Mart since 1996, the National Women's Law Center said Wednesday.

Men have been denied contraceptives for years.

Bob

Whitey

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Oct 19, 2001, 2:32:32 AM10/19/01
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Now, now, Sky. That's not very gentlemanly of you, dear boy. It would
be in our best interests to have Wal-Mart pay for prescription
contraceptives for female employees - then WE can get them to pay for
all those condoms we're using. And we ARE using them, right guys?
Besides, we can hardly bitch that they're breeding children they can't
afford to feed if we don't at least offer to help make the fields a
tad less fertile, so to speak. Let's be fair, fellows, shall we?


Byte Me.
GARRYOWEN!

Sky King

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Oct 19, 2001, 8:41:17 AM10/19/01
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In article <3bcfc8a8....@news.ne.mediaone.net>,
pau...@mediaone.net says...
I am always fair. sky

Roderic Fabian

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Oct 20, 2001, 6:43:02 PM10/20/01
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In article <uOtz7.12849$Hw3.2...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>,
youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com says...

> I'm confused. I see nowhere that it mentions men are receiving a benefit
> that women are not. So how is that sex discrimination of any kind?

The general rule is that health insurance will not pay for expenses that
are not related to an illness. Being a fertile woman who wants sex is
not an illness.

Some women have protested because health plans cover Viagra but not birth
control pills. However, Viagra is given for an illness and birth control
pills are usually not, although sometimes they are, and the insurance
will pay for them in those cases. The more accurate analogy would be to
look at the fact that medications for PMS are paid for by insurance plans
because PMS is considered to be an illness.

Women get something like 80% of the money in health insurance plans spent
on their keeping their carcasses functioning while men are forced to pay
half of the total expenses of insurance plans as it is. I don't know why
women think they have to have a bigger share.

Chive Mynde

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Oct 20, 2001, 10:34:01 PM10/20/01
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Roderic Fabian <fr...@swbell.net> wrote in message news:<MPG.163bbb4d2...@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net>...

> In article <uOtz7.12849$Hw3.2...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>,
> youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com says...
> > I'm confused. I see nowhere that it mentions men are receiving a benefit
> > that women are not. So how is that sex discrimination of any kind?
>
> The general rule is that health insurance will not pay for expenses that
> are not related to an illness.

The "general rule" is bullshit. Preventative health measures,
like birth control, save HMO's money.

Of course, you wouldn't be interested in cutting costs, would you?

It's a known fact that the entire insurance industry is a SCAM.

- Chive

Science is not belief, but the will to find out.

Bob

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Oct 20, 2001, 11:02:35 PM10/20/01
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Roderic Fabian wrote:

> In article <uOtz7.12849$Hw3.2...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>,
> youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com says...
> > I'm confused. I see nowhere that it mentions men are receiving a benefit
> > that women are not. So how is that sex discrimination of any kind?
>
> The general rule is that health insurance will not pay for expenses that
> are not related to an illness. Being a fertile woman who wants sex is
> not an illness.
>
> Some women have protested because health plans cover Viagra but not birth
> control pills. However, Viagra is given for an illness and birth control
> pills are usually not, although sometimes they are, and the insurance
> will pay for them in those cases. The more accurate analogy would be to
> look at the fact that medications for PMS are paid for by insurance plans
> because PMS is considered to be an illness.
>
> Women get something like 80% of the money in health insurance plans spent
> on their keeping their carcasses functioning while men are forced to pay
> half of the total expenses of insurance plans as it is. I don't know why
> women think they have to have a bigger share.

Men actually pay far more than half the cost of insurance while women get that
80% of the benefits. Like everything else men pay and women get. Medical
insurance is no exception.

Bob


AJ

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Oct 21, 2001, 11:40:28 AM10/21/01
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"Chive Mynde" <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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On what evidence do you base THIS claim?

Chive Mynde

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Oct 21, 2001, 7:00:26 PM10/21/01
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Fred Klein <kdmlive...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3BD30B36...@hotmail.com>...
> Parg2000 wrote:

> > {Parg} But that IS the subject. How can women HAVE good reproductive health
> > when contraceptives aren't covered. If men need VIAGRA for their reproductive
> > health, I would think contraceptives for women's reproductive health would be
> > totally appropriate.
>
> Viagra fixes a problem when the normal biological function stops
> working.
>
> Contraception does not.

Bullshit. Contraception stops reproduction from occurring.
Reproduction can pose significant threats to a woman's health,
career, family, and psychological well-being.

> Now, if there were a pill that made women wet....

Fred, you can't stuff a woman full of pills just because
she isn't attracted to you.

Chive Mynde

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Oct 21, 2001, 7:12:59 PM10/21/01
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"AJ" <youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com> wrote in message news:<M%BA7.11293$jq6.4...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>...

> > It's a known fact that the entire insurance industry is a SCAM.
>
> On what evidence do you base THIS claim?

On all the evidence against insurance industry.

Insurance is a SCAM. It has always been a SCAM.

AJ

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Oct 21, 2001, 7:42:49 PM10/21/01
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"Chive Mynde" <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:ccd55c9c.01102...@posting.google.com...
> "AJ" <youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com> wrote in message
news:<M%BA7.11293$jq6.4...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>...
>
> > > It's a known fact that the entire insurance industry is a SCAM.
> >
> > On what evidence do you base THIS claim?
>
> On all the evidence against insurance industry.
>

Stating that there is proof does not improve your position. Where is the
evidence? What evidence do you have? Who else (preferably someone with
SOME credibility) actually believes the same thing that you do?

> Insurance is a SCAM. It has always been a SCAM.
>

Please provide evidence for your claim.

Chive Mynde

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Oct 22, 2001, 2:29:31 AM10/22/01
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"AJ" <youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com> wrote in message news:<Z3JA7.21626$Hw3.5...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>...

> "Chive Mynde" <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:ccd55c9c.01102...@posting.google.com...
> > "AJ" <youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com> wrote in message
> news:<M%BA7.11293$jq6.4...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>...
> >
> > > > It's a known fact that the entire insurance industry is a SCAM.
> > >
> > > On what evidence do you base THIS claim?
> >
> > On all the evidence against insurance industry.
> >
>
> Stating that there is proof does not improve your position.
> Where is the evidence?

Everywhere.

> What evidence do you have?

All of it.

> Who else (preferably someone with
> SOME credibility) actually believes the same thing that you do?

Everybody.

Insurance is a SCAM. It has always been a SCAM.

- Chive

AJ

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:50:00 AM10/22/01
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"Chive Mynde" <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:ccd55c9c.01102...@posting.google.com...
> "AJ" <youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com> wrote in message
news:<Z3JA7.21626$Hw3.5...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>...
> > "Chive Mynde" <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > news:ccd55c9c.01102...@posting.google.com...
> > > "AJ" <youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com> wrote in message
> > news:<M%BA7.11293$jq6.4...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>...
> > >
> > > > > It's a known fact that the entire insurance industry is a SCAM.
> > > >
> > > > On what evidence do you base THIS claim?
> > >
> > > On all the evidence against insurance industry.
> > >
> >
> > Stating that there is proof does not improve your position.
> > Where is the evidence?
>
> Everywhere.
>

Show it to me. Provide it.

> > What evidence do you have?
>
> All of it.
>

Where is any of it.

> > Who else (preferably someone with
> > SOME credibility) actually believes the same thing that you do?
>
> Everybody.
>

Name them, all of them. And provide proof that everyone else on the planet
agrees with you.

> Insurance is a SCAM. It has always been a SCAM.
>

You are an idiot. You have always been an idiot. You continue to prove
that you are an idiot.

Chive Mynde

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Oct 23, 2001, 5:32:59 AM10/23/01
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"AJ" <youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com> wrote in message news:<cuVA7.14811$jq6.5...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>...

> "Chive Mynde" <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:ccd55c9c.01102...@posting.google.com...
> > "AJ" <youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com> wrote in message
> news:<Z3JA7.21626$Hw3.5...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>...
> > > "Chive Mynde" <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ccd55c9c.01102...@posting.google.com...
> > > > "AJ" <youwilljust...@DIESPAMMERSDIE.com> wrote in message
> news:<M%BA7.11293$jq6.4...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>...
> > > >
> > > > > > It's a known fact that the entire insurance industry is a SCAM.
> > > > >
> > > > > On what evidence do you base THIS claim?
> > > >
> > > > On all the evidence against insurance industry.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Stating that there is proof does not improve your position.
> > > Where is the evidence?
> >
> > Everywhere.
> >
>
> Show it to me. Provide it.

Sure. Look at your premiums, and now look at what you get for the
money.

Insurance is a SCAM. It always has been.

HTH.

Senator Palpatine

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Oct 23, 2001, 9:25:14 AM10/23/01
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chyve...@my-deja.com (Chive Mynde) wrote in message news:<ccd55c9c.01102...@posting.google.com>...

OH BULLSHIT!!! Men dont get squat! contraceptives are a preventavie measure
too asshole!

Senator Palpatine

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Oct 23, 2001, 9:26:33 AM10/23/01
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chyve...@my-deja.com (Chive Mynde) wrote in message news:<ccd55c9c.01102...@posting.google.com>...

oh because chive cant birth control pills makes it a scam.

Senator Palpatine

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Oct 23, 2001, 9:30:44 AM10/23/01
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> > > {Parg} But that IS the subject. How can women HAVE good reproductive health
> > > when contraceptives aren't covered. If men need VIAGRA for their reproductive
> > > health, I would think contraceptives for women's reproductive health would be
> > > totally appropriate.
> >
> > Viagra fixes a problem when the normal biological function stops
> > working.
> >
> > Contraception does not.
>
> Bullshit. Contraception stops reproduction from occurring.
> Reproduction can pose significant threats to a woman's health,
> career, family, and psychological well-being.

how to a career? how to a family? how psychologically?
give me prove and not "because I said so" bullshit!

AJ

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Oct 23, 2001, 9:38:40 AM10/23/01
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"Chive Mynde" <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Ask someone who has ever had to make use of it. My sister for example, who
had a rash or car accidents when she was first learning to drive - they
weren't her fault, but she could have prevented them had she had more
experience.

Or my grandfather, who spent years (like seven) in treatment for prostate
cancer, along with a few other illnesses.

Or the other millions out there who have to make use of it every day because
no middle class person could EVER afford a trip to the hospital for a
serious illness or injury on his/her own.

> Insurance is a SCAM. It always has been.
>

You are an idiot, you always have been.

And another thing, you still haven't proven to me why the decision of not to
provide birth control pills as part of the employee insurance program is
sexist in any way.

Sky King

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:19:44 PM10/23/01
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In article <c10ac907.01102...@posting.google.com>,
darth_s...@my-deja.com says...

> > > > {Parg} But that IS the subject. How can women HAVE good reproductive health
> > > > when contraceptives aren't covered. If men need VIAGRA for their reproductive
> > > > health, I would think contraceptives for women's reproductive health would be
> > > > totally appropriate.
> > >
> > > Viagra fixes a problem when the normal biological function stops
> > > working.
> > >
> > > Contraception does not.
> >
> > Bullshit. Contraception stops reproduction from occurring.
> > Reproduction can pose significant threats to a woman's health,
> > career, family, and psychological well-being.
>
They can just say NO to intercourse. sky

Chive Mynde

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Oct 23, 2001, 5:59:42 PM10/23/01
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darth_s...@my-deja.com (Senator Palpatine) wrote in message news:<c10ac907.01102...@posting.google.com>...

> > > > {Parg} But that IS the subject. How can women HAVE good reproductive health
> > > > when contraceptives aren't covered. If men need VIAGRA for their reproductive
> > > > health, I would think contraceptives for women's reproductive health would be
> > > > totally appropriate.
> > >
> > > Viagra fixes a problem when the normal biological function stops
> > > working.
> > >
> > > Contraception does not.
> >
> > Bullshit. Contraception stops reproduction from occurring.
> > Reproduction can pose significant threats to a woman's health,
> > career, family, and psychological well-being.
>
> how to a career?

Women without children can move faster up the career ladder than
women with children. If you need that explained to you, then you
have some kind of mental disorder.

> how to a family?

See above.

> how psychologically?

Reproduction has significant psychological effects, pro and con.

> give me prove

It's not proof that you require, but evidence.

When you learn how to read, feel free to reply.

Sky King

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Oct 23, 2001, 6:44:24 PM10/23/01
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In article <ccd55c9c.01102...@posting.google.com>,
chyve...@my-deja.com says...
Evidence would be proof dummy. sky

Fred Klein

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Oct 22, 2001, 4:44:07 PM10/22/01
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Chive Mynde wrote:
>
> Fred Klein <kdmlive...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3BD30B36...@hotmail.com>...
> > Parg2000 wrote:
>
> > > {Parg} But that IS the subject. How can women HAVE good reproductive health
> > > when contraceptives aren't covered. If men need VIAGRA for their reproductive
> > > health, I would think contraceptives for women's reproductive health would be
> > > totally appropriate.
> >
> > Viagra fixes a problem when the normal biological function stops
> > working.
> >
> > Contraception does not.
>
> Bullshit.

You are saying that pregnancy is a "problem" with "normal biological
functioning"?????

>Contraception stops reproduction from occurring.
> Reproduction can pose significant threats to a woman's health,
> career, family, and psychological well-being.
>
> > Now, if there were a pill that made women wet....
>
> Fred, you can't stuff a woman full of pills just because
> she isn't attracted to you.

If you wish to debate the issues, you may do so with me. If you wish
to insult, do so to my kill file.


Fred Klein


Senator Palpatine

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Oct 25, 2001, 8:50:50 AM10/25/01
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chyve...@my-deja.com (Chive Mynde) wrote in message news:<ccd55c9c.01102...@posting.google.com>...
> darth_s...@my-deja.com (Senator Palpatine) wrote in message news:<c10ac907.01102...@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > {Parg} But that IS the subject. How can women HAVE good reproductive health
> > > > > when contraceptives aren't covered. If men need VIAGRA for their reproductive
> > > > > health, I would think contraceptives for women's reproductive health would be
> > > > > totally appropriate.
> > > >
> > > > Viagra fixes a problem when the normal biological function stops
> > > > working.
> > > >
> > > > Contraception does not.
> > >
> > > Bullshit. Contraception stops reproduction from occurring.
> > > Reproduction can pose significant threats to a woman's health,
> > > career, family, and psychological well-being.
> >
> > how to a career?
>
> Women without children can move faster up the career ladder than
> women with children. If you need that explained to you, then you
> have some kind of mental disorder.

you are obviously totally nieve about the working world. I have
worked with women who had more the two kids that moved up the ladder
very quickly. Stop posting your liberal propaganda.


>
> > how to a family?
>
> See above.


you obviously have some sort of attitude problem. You act as though
your word is the holy gospel. piss off!

> > how psychologically?
>
> Reproduction has significant psychological effects, pro and con.
>
> > give me prove
>
> It's not proof that you require, but evidence.
>
> When you learn how to read, feel free to reply.
>
> - Chive
>
> Science is not belief, but the will to find out.


I can read fine. I think you need to get your prozac Rx re-filled.
Maybe you hate men because your father didn't pay enough attention to you
when you were growing up.

Chive Mynde

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Oct 25, 2001, 6:50:01 PM10/25/01
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Women without children can move faster up the career ladder than
women with children. If you need that explained to you, then you
have some kind of mental disorder.

- Chive

Senator Palpatine

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Oct 29, 2001, 1:39:12 PM10/29/01
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chyve...@my-deja.com (Chive Mynde) wrote in message news:<ccd55c9c.01102...@posting.google.com>...
> Women without children can move faster up the career ladder than
> women with children. If you need that explained to you, then you
> have some kind of mental disorder.

you seem to accuse people of having a mental disorder that dont see your
point of view. Very arrogant of liberals like you. BTW, I guess its selfishness
on a womans part if getting up the carreer ladder quickly at all costs.

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