A German doctor/artist was teching women how to ejaculate, mix the
spurtings up with pigments, smear it on their bodies and then press
themselves against various 'canvases'.
She said that she wanted women to use 'oderiferous' body fluids (no doubt
about that ...) to create 'art' in public places. A kind of 'territorial
scent marking' (her words).
What is this fluid - she held up a container conatining about a pint of
lightly viscouse yellowish liquid a bit like runny albumen and claimed that
this was the result of a typical 'ejaculation' ? (Wouldn't this kind of
thing lead to dehydration - a *pint* of ejaculate !!!!)
She then went on to demonstrate contempt of men (and their sexuality) by
showing how the women in her group should 'ejaculate' over mens' genitals.
(She used a sponge soaked in yello paint and half-sqautted over the genitals
of a naked man while squeezing the sponge out over his genitals. She
re-soaked the sponge and repeated the process several times to show the
amount of fluid produced.)
Why ?
What is this this ?
Was this a joke ?
Zero
zero wrote:
Not really...it sounds like a typical story from Eurotrash. They take pride in
sensationalising any and all things sexual. No-one takes it seriously, they just
cant because its a farce. The voice-overs should tell you that much (I'm not
even sure the translations are valid). Put Eurotrash into perspective, Zero. Its
a cheap and chatty channel4 program which sends up various sexual kinks. Its
tongue in cheek, and targets women as much as it does men. Dont sweat it.
Emma wrote in message <34B908F5...@deletethis.globalnet.co.uk>...
>
>
>zero wrote:
>
>
>Not really...it sounds like a typical story from Eurotrash. They take pride
in
>sensationalising any and all things sexual. No-one takes it seriously, they
just
>cant because its a farce. The voice-overs should tell you that much (I'm
not
>even sure the translations are valid).
God's truth - that's what they are.
>Put Eurotrash into perspective, Zero. Its
>a cheap and chatty channel4 program which sends up various sexual kinks.
>Its
>tongue in cheek,
Nope ! no tongues in cheeks this time.
>and targets women as much as it does men. Dont sweat it.
>
I don't think 'sweat' was the issue .......
Zero
>Did anybody (in UK) see this ? (Eurotrash last Friday night)
>
>A German doctor/artist was teching women how to ejaculate, mix the
>spurtings up with pigments, smear it on their bodies and then press
>themselves against various 'canvases'.
>
>She said that she wanted women to use 'oderiferous' body fluids (no doubt
>about that ...) to create 'art' in public places. A kind of 'territorial
>scent marking' (her words).
>
>What is this fluid - she held up a container conatining about a pint of
>lightly viscouse yellowish liquid a bit like runny albumen and claimed that
>this was the result of a typical 'ejaculation' ? (Wouldn't this kind of
>thing lead to dehydration - a *pint* of ejaculate !!!!)
>
>She then went on to demonstrate contempt of men (and their sexuality) by
>showing how the women in her group should 'ejaculate' over mens' genitals.
>(She used a sponge soaked in yello paint and half-sqautted over the genitals
>of a naked man while squeezing the sponge out over his genitals. She
>re-soaked the sponge and repeated the process several times to show the
>amount of fluid produced.)
>
>Why ?
>
>What is this this ?
>
>Was this a joke ?
>
>Zero
>
This is typical feminist lunacy. This particular case is a clear example of penis envy.
It's one of the worst cases of feminism gone overboard. It is good. I like it. It is shining
example of what feminism is all about and it's consequences. It states the case for anti
feminism better than anything we anti feminists could do.
Steve
Steven Grzesik wrote in message <69b4e9$1...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>...
>
>This is typical feminist lunacy. This particular case is a clear example of
penis envy.
>It's one of the worst cases of feminism gone overboard. It is good. I like
it. It is shining
>example of what feminism is all about and it's consequences. It states the
case for anti
>feminism better than anything we anti feminists could do.
>
This is a typical example of artists getting wacko and people with nothing
better to do taking it seriously.
Gee... I wonder what would happen if I started a petition to have one of the
pieces of art bought with taxpayer dollars.... hmm.. how many newsgroup
users could I send into apoplexy (sp).
I don't know about german women--en masse--but unless there's some
major dietary or hygeine difference between them and US women,
this won't work. Female ''ejaculate'' is about the least
odiferous secretion the body can produce. If you want to mark
your territory you'd do better to rub your jowels on the
doorframes like my cat does 8).
>
> What is this fluid - she held up a container conatining about a pint of
> lightly viscouse yellowish liquid a bit like runny albumen and claimed that
> this was the result of a typical 'ejaculation' ?
Either that's bogus (artists lie all the time, you know) or
the donors need to get to a hospital quickly. All I have
encountered smells like nothing and looks like Zima 8).
It might be possible to collect a lot of vaginal lubrication
secretions--which are thicker. Tedious, I should think.
>(Wouldn't this kind of
> thing lead to dehydration - a *pint* of ejaculate !!!!)
Nope. Well, yes, it does lead to dehydration. My all-time
champeen gushing sex partner used to leave a pint of the stuff
just in the bed alone, and WOULD turn pale and shaky after a
while. GatorAde was required 8).
>
> She then went on to demonstrate contempt of men (and their sexuality) by
> showing how the women in her group should 'ejaculate' over mens' genitals.
I dunno if anybody should, but I can subjectively assure you that
such an act doesn't automatically denote contempt. I quite
enjoyed it, myself. For one thing, it's as warm as urine...
which makes sense, considering where it comes from.
> (She used a sponge soaked in yello paint and half-sqautted over the genitals
> of a naked man while squeezing the sponge out over his genitals. She
> re-soaked the sponge and repeated the process several times to show the
> amount of fluid produced.)
From this you get contempt?
>
> Why ?
>
For art's sake. For fun. Geeze dude, I've still got a pair
of suede boots that were ''ruined'' by my lady friends'
gushing all over them at a party. I wouldn't part with them
for anything.
Sex is WET and messy. Get over it.
Ughhhhh.....I hate to be the bearer of bad news. While women do have glands that allow for small
amounts of ejaculate, usually it's a case of losing control of ones bladder during orgasm.
Steve
[..]
>Not really...it sounds like a typical story from Eurotrash. They take pride in
>sensationalising any and all things sexual.
Only if they are a bit strange as well. Gotta have some kinky or
just plain weird angle on it.
It doesn't have to be sexual either. There was a contest of
people who can squeal like pigs on the same issue. I remember
a beard-growing contest on another issue. The show is
basically about sillyness, smuttiness and a gleeful delight
in tackiness. Oh, and about poking fun at the English...well,
every European country, but especially England. Also
poking fun at the audience ("We do not like you. We just
do this for the money.")
>No-one takes it seriously, they just
>cant because its a farce. The voice-overs should tell you that much (I'm not
>even sure the translations are valid).
Oh, those voiceovers! Priceless! Every possible inappropriate
accent you can think of. I agree with the translations...I think
they alter them somewhat.
>Put Eurotrash into perspective, Zero. Its
>a cheap and chatty channel4 program which sends up various sexual kinks. Its
>tongue in cheek, and targets women as much as it does men. Dont sweat it.
In addition, I am sure that it's "targetting" is not malicious. It's
the gentle teasing that sometimes goes on between friends, silly
statements that are obviously not meant (see, for example,
Antoine's comment to the viewers, above).
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>zero wrote:
[..]
>>(Wouldn't this kind of
>> thing lead to dehydration - a *pint* of ejaculate !!!!)
>
>Nope. Well, yes, it does lead to dehydration. My all-time
>champeen gushing sex partner used to leave a pint of the stuff
>just in the bed alone, and WOULD turn pale and shaky after a
>while. GatorAde was required 8).
Are you serious?
Good grief! Every woman I've had sex with ejaculates at
least some of the time (though AFAIK this is atypical, maybe
I've just been lucky) but nowhere near a pint.
A pint!?
We are talking about one Imperial pint, yes? 568ml?
A bottle of milk? Almost two standard cans of drink?
I'd have to see that to believe it. IME there is enough to
soak my hand/face, enough to make a good mouthful
maybe, enough to make a wet patch about half the
size of a pillow. A pint would be enough to wash
your hair in! The sheets would be sodden!
>> She then went on to demonstrate contempt of men (and their sexuality) by
>> showing how the women in her group should 'ejaculate' over mens' genitals.
Sounds like D/s sexplay to me, *if* contempt was actually
mentioned. It isn't real contempt. Play, that's all.
>I dunno if anybody should, but I can subjectively assure you that
>such an act doesn't automatically denote contempt. I quite
>enjoyed it, myself. For one thing, it's as warm as urine...
>which makes sense, considering where it comes from.
I think it's lovely!
>> (She used a sponge soaked in yello paint and half-sqautted over the genitals
>> of a naked man while squeezing the sponge out over his genitals. She
>> re-soaked the sponge and repeated the process several times to show the
>> amount of fluid produced.)
>
>From this you get contempt?
I don't see how.
>> Why ?
>>
>
>For art's sake. For fun. Geeze dude, I've still got a pair
>of suede boots that were ''ruined'' by my lady friends'
>gushing all over them at a party. I wouldn't part with them
>for anything.
You go to some *good* parties!
>Sex is WET and messy. Get over it.
Or under it, if you'd prefer 8-)
<shakes head quizically>
A pint?
It's things like this that prove fminism is dead.
Steve
>Not really...it sounds like a typical story from Eurotrash. They take pride in
>sensationalising any and all things sexual. No-one takes it seriously, they just
>cant because its a farce. The voice-overs should tell you that much (I'm not
>even sure the translations are valid). Put Eurotrash into perspective, Zero. Its
>a cheap and chatty channel4 program which sends up various sexual kinks. Its
>tongue in cheek, and targets women as much as it does men. Dont sweat it.
Remember that guy who hires out as nude furniture? I liked when he
was a bicycle rack....
--
A. Carol Feminists Against Censorship
ave...@cix.co.uk http://www.fiawol.demon.co.uk/FAC/
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police
protection from their slaves." - Kim Stanley Robinson
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Steven Grzesik wrote:
It's posts like this that prove Steve is dead....at least from the neck up.
Avedon Carol wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:01:27 +0000, Emma
> <po...@deletethis.globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Not really...it sounds like a typical story from Eurotrash. They take pride in
> >sensationalising any and all things sexual. No-one takes it seriously, they just
> >cant because its a farce. The voice-overs should tell you that much (I'm not
> >even sure the translations are valid). Put Eurotrash into perspective, Zero. Its
> >a cheap and chatty channel4 program which sends up various sexual kinks. Its
> >tongue in cheek, and targets women as much as it does men. Dont sweat it.
>
> Remember that guy who hires out as nude furniture? I liked when he
> was a bicycle rack....
Damn...I missed that one....did you get his number? :oŞ
Insults? How pointless..but OK.
Emma you rubberholed, fucking slimebag of a slut. A rubber chicken is
prettier than you and probably better in bed. What's that hairy thing
between your tits??? Oh, it's your cunt.
Life is good.
Steve
Emma wrote in message <34BD4FBD...@deletethis.globalnet.co.uk>...
>
---Gleefully Snipped----
>>
>> Remember that guy who hires out as nude furniture? I liked when he
>> was a bicycle rack....
>
>Damn...I missed that one....did you get his number? :oŢ
>
Think you want to speak to my mate Baz, Emma (Just make sure you give
precise instructions and he's OK)
Zero
averti wrote in message <34BA54...@hotmail.com>...
> If you want to mark
>your territory you'd do better to rub your jowels on the
>doorframes like my cat does 8).
>
I've tried this many times - all that happens is that the Toms in the area
want to fight me and Tabbies wan to fuck me. I wouldn't advocate this as a
general principle
(Unless you are into BIG TROUBLE with the more assertive members of the
urban cat populatipn)
>Nope. Well, yes, it does lead to dehydration. My all-time
>champeen gushing sex partner used to leave a pint of the stuff
>just in the bed alone, and WOULD turn pale and shaky after a
>while. GatorAde was required 8).
>
GatorAde ?? (Mmmmmm sounds intersesting.)
>>
>> She then went on to demonstrate contempt of men (and their sexuality) by
>> showing how the women in her group should 'ejaculate' over mens'
genitals.
>
>I dunno if anybody should, but I can subjectively assure you that
>such an act doesn't automatically denote contempt. I quite
>enjoyed it, myself. For one thing, it's as warm as urine...
>which makes sense, considering where it comes from.
>
Yeah but you are talkihng about a private arrangement with a partner. This
female was advocating it as a symbolic nullification of mens' sex.
>> (She used a sponge soaked in yello paint and half-sqautted over the
genitals
>> of a naked man while squeezing the sponge out over his genitals. She
>> re-soaked the sponge and repeated the process several times to show the
>> amount of fluid produced.)
>
>From this you get contempt?
>
See above
>>
>> Why ?
>>
>
>For art's sake. For fun. Geeze dude, I've still got a pair
>of suede boots that were ''ruined'' by my lady friends'
>gushing all over them at a party. I wouldn't part with them
>for anything.
>
>Sex is WET and messy. Get over it.
MMmmm ... In *THAT* case I don't think I'll try it.
Zero
unimportant <1@s.s> wrote in message <34BC599D.1D2C@s.s>...
>Wether an actual marking process or not, I'd like to see this work if
>anyone knows where I can see a sample piece. It's things like this that
say
>art isn't dead.
Quite.
A start might be to get in touch with the BBC (www.bbc.co.uk - programme
'Eurotrash' on Friday 9 Jan 1008). You will want to get the name/contact
for the German female doctor who is into this.
The TV program was pretty explicit so I imagine you could get your hands on
on other materials if you were interested - for research purposes of
course.
I'd get into touch with the German female. (Always a good idea to get in
touch with a German femal IMO)
Zero
Yep.
The goofy ''How to Female Ejaculate'' video features one of the
women clearly aiming and ''firing'' several feet across the room.
>
> I accept what you say ( an ex confirms that she has a friend who ejaculates)
> but a PINT ????
>
> That is massive !! It must be Sooooooo dehyradting ...
It is/was. Fortunately, the fluid level can be rebuilt pretty
quickly (sounds like hydraulic brakes or something)...
>
> Tell me , does it spurt in one go, or is it lots of little spurts ?
Both. It's also not directly related to orgasm, though it tends to
take place around the same general time.
>(I'd
> really like to know) And what is IT ?
I can't find cites but I'll Yahoo for further info over the weekend.
It is definitely not natural lubrication (doesn't issue from the
vagina anyway) nor urine. It's almost pure water that somehow
finds its way into the last part of the ''pipes'' and out the
urethral passage.
>It is obviously not just
> coomon-or-graden lubrication.
>
> Zero
At this point I think it would be more appro for women to further
the discussion, if any care to or are qualified to. All my evidence
is sorta close second-hand, after all.
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>I wouldn't advocate this as a
> general principle
> (Unless you are into BIG TROUBLE with the more assertive members of the
> urban cat populatipn)
>
> >Nope. Well, yes, it does lead to dehydration. My all-time
> >champeen gushing sex partner used to leave a pint of the stuff
> >just in the bed alone, and WOULD turn pale and shaky after a
> >while. GatorAde was required 8).
> >
>
> GatorAde ?? (Mmmmmm sounds intersesting.)
Or just a lot of mineral water. Champagne didn't seem to help much,
though it helped everything else 8).
>
> >>
> >> She then went on to demonstrate contempt of men (and their sexuality) by
> >> showing how the women in her group should 'ejaculate' over mens'
> genitals.
> >
> >I dunno if anybody should, but I can subjectively assure you that
> >such an act doesn't automatically denote contempt. I quite
> >enjoyed it, myself. For one thing, it's as warm as urine...
> >which makes sense, considering where it comes from.
> >
>
> Yeah but you are talkihng about a private arrangement with a partner. This
> female was advocating it as a symbolic nullification of mens' sex.
Eh. I can shrug off symbolic nullification. It's...symbolic. I been
symbolically nullfiying Rich Payne for days and weeks, and I bet
nothing has fallen off him. That wasn't otherwise already fated to
fall off, I mean.
>
> >> (She used a sponge soaked in yello paint and half-sqautted over the
> genitals
> >> of a naked man while squeezing the sponge out over his genitals. She
> >> re-soaked the sponge and repeated the process several times to show the
> >> amount of fluid produced.)
> >
>
> >From this you get contempt?
> >
>
> See above
I guess I'm one of these ''If it's art it's excused'' types of
phoney intellectuals.
>
> >>
> >> Why ?
> >>
> >
> >For art's sake. For fun. Geeze dude, I've still got a pair
> >of suede boots that were ''ruined'' by my lady friends'
> >gushing all over them at a party. I wouldn't part with them
> >for anything.
> >
> >Sex is WET and messy. Get over it.
>
> MMmmm ... In *THAT* case I don't think I'll try it.
Betcha do 8).
>
> Zero
ave...@hotmail.com wrote in message <884989644....@dejanews.com>...
>In article <69m9rm$qkh$1...@plug.news.pipex.net>,
>> >Sex is WET and messy. Get over it.
>>
>> MMmmm ... In *THAT* case I don't think I'll try it.
>
>Betcha do 8).
>
You reckon ???
(I'll speak to the babe next door ....)
Zero ??
That's generally what _I_ do...well, not next door, but down
the way.
I spose this is as good a place as any to bring up the
ORIGINAL vaginal-shooting performance artist, Honeysuckle
Divine. (I had more or less forgotten about this pioneer
performer). This was a woman with an amazing amount of
selective body control. Her entire act was performed on her
back with her, er, instrument pointed at the audience.
Part one featured the insertion of ping pong balls and
subsequent expelling of same out into the cheap seats.
Distance rather than accuracy being the goal.
Part two involved the internalizing, as we say nowadays
in intellectual circles, of a whole bottle of Jergens
Lotion, followed by the reappearance of the stuff, flying
through the air in large gouts as if propelled from a
caulking gun. I got some on my (ugly and stupid-looking)
shirt during a performance at the old Mitchell Bros. Theater
in the '70's.
This amazing act was also accompanied by a song, self-composed
and rendered by the artist. To be able to be a human
soaker cannon and sing at the same time was probably the
real strength of the business.
a.
averti wrote in message <34C53D...@hotmail.com>...
---Snip---
>I spose this is as good a place as any to bring up the
>ORIGINAL vaginal-shooting performance artist, Honeysuckle
>Divine. (I had more or less forgotten about this pioneer
>performer). This was a woman with an amazing amount of
>selective body control. Her entire act was performed on her
>back with her, er, instrument pointed at the audience.
>Part one featured the insertion of ping pong balls and
>subsequent expelling of same out into the cheap seats.
>Distance rather than accuracy being the goal.
>
>Part two involved the internalizing, as we say nowadays
>in intellectual circles, of a whole bottle of Jergens
>Lotion, followed by the reappearance of the stuff, flying
>through the air in large gouts as if propelled from a
>caulking gun. I got some on my (ugly and stupid-looking)
>shirt during a performance at the old Mitchell Bros. Theater
>in the '70's.
>
>This amazing act was also accompanied by a song, self-composed
>and rendered by the artist. To be able to be a human
>soaker cannon and sing at the same time was probably the
>real strength of the business.
>
>a.
Fascinating, I'm speechless (almost).
I don't think we *have* anything shows like that in UK
BTW - this is probably not the same thing and orgasmic ejaculation (I don't
believe I just wrote that)
- more likely due to muscular contraction and the lubrication of the fluid.
Bloody good story nonetheless ...
Do you remember the somg ??
Zero
For some reason I missed that one.
>Not from the typical audience point
> of view, but you do see the ping pong balls flying
> across the room.
Nice to have my memories vindicated 8).
>
> In the movie, her husband is a little embarassed by
> the whole thing.
It's not easy being a show business spouse sometimes.
>
> David Hodges
>
> "If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
> - Anatole France