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Julie Palmer

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Jan 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/9/98
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Hi Julie!!

Wow, do we have a lot in common--both Julie P's and both redheads!! I'm
glad you like your new color. I'm a natural redhead (with a little help
from Clairol), and although I hated it as a child, I'm glad about it
now.

Anyway...you asked about tips. I use a few products that look pretty
with red hair. First of all, it's next to impossible to find eyebrow
pencil for redheads--I use Maybelline's in Auburn, and it's very
natural. I've also found that neutral makeup colors really draw
attention to red hair. Some of my favorites:

Revlon's Spices eyeshadow quad
Stila Toffee and Terra shadows
MAC Sepia, Taupe, and Lucid lipsticks
Stila Lina, Luce and Helen lipsticks

Since I've been coloring my hair a darker red, I've found that pastel
shades look terrible. I used to wear lavender/light plum eyeshadows,
but now that my hair is very red, I look like I belong in the hospital
with those colors on. YMMV.

You realize you're expected to be wild and hot-tempered now that you're
a redhead, right? Enjoy your new color!!

Julie

Jjjjjulie wrote:
>
> Well, I did it. I went from golden blonde to auburn (temporarily) to see if
> I'd like it. And I do.
>
> But having never been anything but blonde, I'm not sure if there are tips I
> need to know about being a redhead.
>
> I'm pale (MAC C1) and have green eyes (love how the red hair brings that out!).
> So, any of you who've made the same move, let me know the inside tips to make
> this transition work (esp. any makeup colors I should now avoid).
>
> Looking forward to your help!
>
> Julie P.

MDS

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In article <34B666...@ix.netcom.com>,
Julie Palmer <j_pa...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Hi Julie!!

>
>
>Anyway...you asked about tips. I use a few products that look pretty
>with red hair. First of all, it's next to impossible to find eyebrow
>pencil for redheads--I use Maybelline's in Auburn, and it's very
>natural. I've also found that neutral makeup colors really draw
>attention to red hair. Some of my favorites:
>
>Revlon's Spices eyeshadow quad
>Stila Toffee and Terra shadows
>MAC Sepia, Taupe, and Lucid lipsticks
>Stila Lina, Luce and Helen lipsticks
>


Interesting!!! Although I'm a brunette (with highlights - maybe that's
why? Or perhaps it's my "redhead genetics" shinin' through - I come
from a family of them), the Terra, Sepia, Taupe, and Lucid are some of my
favorites. I might also recommend, lipstick-wise, Necessities Cocoa (it's
been my "staple" lipstick shade for some time now), Bobbi Brown Clove, Px
Brunette Suede or Autumn Suede, GB Mocha...Just a few off the top of my
head. They're all on the warm side of reddish-brown, and terrific shades!

--M.


Christabel La Motte

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In <34B666...@ix.netcom.com>,
Julie Palmer <j_pa...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Anyway...you asked about tips. I use a few products that look pretty
> with red hair. First of all, it's next to impossible to find eyebrow
> pencil for redheads--I use Maybelline's in Auburn, and it's very
> natural.

If you're willing to try brow powder rather than pencils, Clinique makes
one in a warm auburn that works very well.

I'd also suggest colored mascaras -- if you've got light lashes like
many blondes, they'll likely work fairly well on you. Max Factor's Deep
Auburn, Revlon's Vixen, Chanel's Vamp, and other burgundy/auburn/bronze
tones make a fun alternative to browns and brown-blacks, and with
lighter looks can definitely contribute to the illusion that your hair
color is natural. ;)

> I've also found that neutral makeup colors really draw
> attention to red hair.

<snip>


> Since I've been coloring my hair a darker red, I've found that pastel
> shades look terrible. I used to wear lavender/light plum eyeshadows,
> but now that my hair is very red, I look like I belong in the hospital
> with those colors on. YMMV.

*grin*

OK, I'm starting from a point a bit closer to the first Julie...

I'm naturally blonde (left to its own devices, my hair color is pretty
wildly streaky and variegated; it grows in colors ranging from ash to
strawberry to golden, and with big platinum streaks at the temples. Everyone
thought I highlighted it back when it was still au naturel, now that I dye
it people think I'm a real redhead. Go figure. *grin*) I've been dying my
hair red for several years now -- started out with a sort of Irish Setter
Auburn, had a Tori Amos crimson for a bit, and in the past year or so have
mostly settled on really deep, dark reds (Hydrience Hibiscus, L'Oreal
Les Rouges Romantiques Intense Dark Red, similar burgundy shades). The color
still fluctuates a fair bit -- I'll often layer transparent colors over
the base red to bring out the plum tones, and of course being reds they
fade to a more auburny color pretty quickly anyway...

I've got extremely pale skin and green-gold hazel eyes, so the red shades
look fairly natural (especially when I keep my eyebrows tinted or made up
to match). I actually find it's a lot easier for me to do minimal makeup now;
when I was still blonde, between the pale skin and the pale eyebrows and
the light eyes and the extra-light hair framing my face, I looked very flat
and washed out without makeup. The red gives me more contrast between my hair
and skin, and plays up my skin and eye color very nicely.

I didn't really have a problem with switching makeup when I started coloring
my hair -- most of the shades I wore as a blonde worked just as well when
I went red. However, I wasn't into pastels then (and I still don't like them),
but I can see how that might not work out too well. I did wear a lot of
neutral shades -- soft matte taupes, olives, that sort of thing, and they
continued to work very nicely with the red hair. (The same shades might
look a bit different on you, of course, since your eyes are a true green).
It seems easier to do darker and more dramatic looks now, too (although
it's hard to say how much of this is because I've got color somewhere
besides my face, and how much is because I've just gotten much more confident
and experimental). I'm particularly fond of deep, plummy purples for that
sort of thing; they seem to play off the tones in my hair and eyes and skin
very well. Again, YMMV.

> You realize you're expected to be wild and hot-tempered now that you're
> a redhead, right? Enjoy your new color!!

So, did you notice people treated you differently once you dyed it? I get
*much* more respect from strangers now...don't know if folks were responding
to the stereotypes of the "dumb blonde" or "the hot-tempered redhead", or
both. The stereotype attached to my current colour is closer to my
true personality, so I can't say I mind too much... ;)

--
Christabel La Motte *quack quack* Washington, DC
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bakerst.

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Julie Palmer wrote:

> . I'm a natural redhead (with a little help
> from Clairol), and although I hated it as a child, I'm glad about it
> now.
>

No offense to our "enhanced" redheaded sisters but- Doesn't it just bug
you how you were tortured through childhood for a hair color that is so
en vogue now- people pay to look the way you did- and caught hell for.
This bugs me just as much as celebrities that wear glasses with no RX.
Arrgh.!


Ave_Rat

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I have the evil redhead complexion (pale, gets a sunburn at the
supermarket), so I don't know if this will apply to you or not, but here
goes. I look terrible in all pastels, especially pink. This goes for
makeup & clothes. True reds are also a no-no for me, which is a shame
because I love bright red lipstick. Good makup colors for me tend to be
bronze, neutral brown & grey. For clothes I stick to neutrals, or the
occasional jewel-toned purple when I want to look like someone out of
"Riverdance."

Also, I recently dyed my hair brunette so I could wear those red lipsticks.
It didn't work. I look terrible. Any suggestions on how to turn my hair
back? I'm afraid of frying it.

Ave_Rat

Shatje

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Jan 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/10/98
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Ditto on the below. The Body Shop also makes a nice auburn brow pencil, but, as
I unhappily discovered, it is not a pencil that can be sharpened, so it doesn't
last very long.

I'm a natural light-to-medium brunette (I think; haven't seen the real color in
a while!) and I've been coloring my hair red -- everything from fiery red to
deeper auburn -- for 5 years. I agree with all of the comments about colors,
although I have no problem wearing pastels like soft lavenders. I find they
bring out the color of my eyes (also green).

**************

Subject: Re: help for a new redhead
From: lam...@grendel.net (Christabel La Motte)
Date: Fri, Jan 9, 1998 6:16 PM
Message-id: <slrn6bdc6u....@califia.sub-rosa.com>

Sheellah

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Gentlest way would be Metallex (sp?) by Clairol mixed with developer. That
might lift the color enough to bring out your red tones again. Sooner you do it
the better. Next would have to be a color remover if that doesn't work. You
would then have to reapply another color.

Best would be to let a salon do it for you. Try the Metallex first if you want
to try it at home. It's gentle and used also as a conditioner.

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