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Sabina

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Jan 6, 2002, 9:45:56 AM1/6/02
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I've seen several postings with references to a code of some sort for
skin color (NW20, for example). What are these and how do I determine
mine?

Sabina

If what goes around doesn't come around...watch out!

Linda

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Jan 6, 2002, 5:58:14 PM1/6/02
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Sabina writes:
>I've seen several postings with references to a code of some sort for
>skin color (NW20, for example). What are these and how do I determine
>mine?

Perhaps these are the MAC foundation color codes?

Linda

Charles L. Perrin

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Jan 6, 2002, 6:25:38 PM1/6/02
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On Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:45:56 GMT, Sabina <sab...@socal.rr.com> wrote:

>I've seen several postings with references to a code of some sort for
>skin color (NW20, for example). What are these and how do I determine
>mine?

It's a code used for MAC Cosmetics.

It's apparently done the same way as it is for all color matching:
standard reference chips, etc.

There are four basic letter combinations: NW, NC, N, C.

Increasing numbers indicate increasing darkness.

Glancing at the Mac site (yes, I know uncalibrated computer monitors
don't do color that well), NC15 is about the color of a Band-Aid. That
must mean nobody in real life looks like NC15.

Blushun

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Jan 6, 2002, 7:36:08 PM1/6/02
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"Sabina" wrote

> I've seen several postings with references to a code of some sort for
> skin color (NW20, for example).
> What are these and how do I determine mine?

Sabina,

this is MAC's colour code for their foundations/powders.

N = Neutral = cool undertone skin (pink based)
C = Warm = warm undertone skin (yellow based)
NW = Neutral/Cool (less pink)
NC = neutral/Warm (less yellow)
The higher the number, the darker the shade.

To determine your skin match in for this line, you need to go into a MAC
counter.

hth,
Blushun
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"The best way of avenging thyself is not to become like the wrong doer." -
Marcus Aurelius


JulieB

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Jan 7, 2002, 10:12:32 PM1/7/02
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"Blushun" <blu...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<k16_7.5951$os5.5...@news20.bellglobal.com>...

> "Sabina" wrote
> > I've seen several postings with references to a code of some sort for
> > skin color (NW20, for example).
> > What are these and how do I determine mine?
>
> Sabina,
>
> this is MAC's colour code for their foundations/powders.
>
> N = Neutral = cool undertone skin (pink based)
> C = Warm = warm undertone skin (yellow based)
> NW = Neutral/Cool (less pink)
> NC = neutral/Warm (less yellow)
> The higher the number, the darker the shade.
>
> To determine your skin match in for this line, you need to go into a MAC
> counter.

Why did I always think that C = Cool and NW = Neutral/Warm? Given the
undertones, your scheme makes sense Blushun, so why would they use C =
Warm and W = Cool???? Just to confuse us I guess....

Julie.

Blushun

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Jan 8, 2002, 6:18:56 AM1/8/02
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"JulieB"

> Why did I always think that C = Cool and NW = Neutral/Warm? Given the
> undertones, your scheme makes sense Blushun, so why would they use C =
> Warm and W = Cool???? Just to confuse us I guess....
>
> Julie.

I'll try to explain it without complicating or confusing the issue further.
A woman with warm skin (yellow undertones), looks best in cool colours; cool
skin(pink undertones), warm colours.
Foundation items (i.e.: foundation, concealer and powders) are the exception
to the rule since your not trying to compliment your skin with them but
match exactly. MAC is trying to make it easy on women who know they should
be using cool or warm colours by labelling their foundations accordingly.
Therefore, at MAC, if you have warm skin you would use a C or NC foundation
product with cool colour cosmetics.
Did that make sense?

Mz. Kitka

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Jan 8, 2002, 9:44:41 AM1/8/02
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"Blushun" <blu...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<VxA_7.8946$qC1.1...@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> I'll try to explain it without complicating or confusing the issue further.
> A woman with warm skin (yellow undertones), looks best in cool colours; cool
> skin(pink undertones), warm colours.
> Foundation items (i.e.: foundation, concealer and powders) are the exception
> to the rule since your not trying to compliment your skin with them but
> match exactly. MAC is trying to make it easy on women who know they should
> be using cool or warm colours by labelling their foundations accordingly.
> Therefore, at MAC, if you have warm skin you would use a C or NC foundation
> product with cool colour cosmetics.
> Did that make sense?
>
> Blushun

Makes perfect sense. Now, as for haircolor, would a person with warm
skin (med-lt. olive, dk. brown eyes, and naturally dk.brown/black
hair) go with getting a cool haircolor or a warm haircolor? I'm so
happy you posted the explanation because I was starting to wonder why
I looked better in cool makeup and clothing than warm. Here I am, a
color nerd, and I can't figure out the hair thing! Ack!

Thanks,
Mz. K

Jessica Hill

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Jan 8, 2002, 11:23:20 AM1/8/02
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Ok, now I'm confused (and always have been about the MAC system). I'm
most definitely a cool-toned person who looks best in pastel and jewel
tones, anything slightly "warm" looks positively disgusting on me,
especially "fall" colors. I've got MAC studio fix in NC20, which
seems to work for me. So did the MA color-print me wrong? In
Prescriptives I'm a B/R.

Jessica Hill


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Dia;yne

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Jan 8, 2002, 1:16:21 PM1/8/02
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mzk...@hotmail.com (Mz. Kitka) wrote in message news:<7d281a76.0201...@posting.google.com>...

Dear All: as one who has studied and worked with colors and skin
tones, IMHO, if you have blue in your skin, blues look good and purps
and blue pinks etc. If you have yellow in your skin, stick with
yellow overtones. If you are like me, a mixture of blue and yellow,
you have to recognize which one is predominant.

Blushun

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Jan 8, 2002, 5:49:58 PM1/8/02
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"Jessica Hill" wrote

> Ok, now I'm confused (and always have been about the MAC system). I'm
> most definitely a cool-toned person who looks best in pastel and jewel
> tones, anything slightly "warm" looks positively disgusting on me,
> especially "fall" colors. I've got MAC studio fix in NC20, which
> seems to work for me. So did the MA color-print me wrong? In
> Prescriptives I'm a B/R.
>
> Jessica Hill

Jessica if you look best in pastels and jewel tones, whether in clothing or
colour cosmetics (ie blush, shadows, and lipsticks), you are warm skinned
(yellow based) hence you look best in cool colours. You're using the right
foundation since NC20 is a yellow based foundation (which is what your skin
is). They labelled their warm foundations C for cool so that women who look
best in cool know that's the right foundation for them
Remember, when it comes to foundation vs. colour cosmetics, opposites
attract. If you have warm (yellow undertoned) skin, you wear warm foundation
and cool colours. Cool skin, cool foundation and warm colours. Foundation
is not meant to add colour to your face, but match it exactly. Colour
cosmetics are used to compliment by contrast.

hth but if not, feel free to email me k? :-)

Blushun

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Jan 8, 2002, 5:58:14 PM1/8/02
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"Dia;yne" wrote

> Dear All: as one who has studied and worked with colors and skin
> tones, IMHO, if you have blue in your skin, blues look good and purps
> and blue pinks etc. If you have yellow in your skin, stick with
> yellow overtones. If you are like me, a mixture of blue and yellow,
> you have to recognize which one is predominant.

Dia;yne,
since you have studied colours, you know that there are warm and cool
versions for all colours . There are warm blues and cool blues, warm
yellows, and cool yellows, warm blacks and cool blacks. The trick it being
able to tell the difference.
FWIW, I've been a professional makeup artist for over 17 years and I've
never used a warm based colour on a warm skinned model or vice versa.

Blushun

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Jan 8, 2002, 6:09:38 PM1/8/02
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"Mz. Kitka" wrote

> Makes perfect sense. Now, as for haircolor, would a person with warm
> skin (med-lt. olive, dk. brown eyes, and naturally dk.brown/black
> hair) go with getting a cool haircolor or a warm haircolor? I'm so
> happy you posted the explanation because I was starting to wonder why
> I looked better in cool makeup and clothing than warm. Here I am, a
> color nerd, and I can't figure out the hair thing! Ack!

I'm glad you found it useful Mz. Kitka and btw, you're not a colour nerd!
Sometimes, when I'm teaching a seminar, I have to stop and think before I
begin a segment on colour. It can be a confusing topic.
Now to answer your question, with the exception of the eye colour (mine are
hazel/brown) we have the exact same colouring so this I can tell you with
out a doubt - you will look best in cool hair colours. Hair colouring
products should be chosen the same way you would choose your colour
cosmetics and clothing.

hth!

Charlottezweb

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Jan 8, 2002, 6:56:50 PM1/8/02
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In article <KFK_7.19258$os5.1...@news20.bellglobal.com>,

Blushun <blu...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>"Jessica Hill" wrote
>> Ok, now I'm confused (and always have been about the MAC system). I'm
>> most definitely a cool-toned person who looks best in pastel and jewel
>> tones, anything slightly "warm" looks positively disgusting on me,
>> especially "fall" colors. I've got MAC studio fix in NC20, which
>> seems to work for me. So did the MA color-print me wrong? In
>> Prescriptives I'm a B/R.
>>
>> Jessica Hill
>
>Jessica if you look best in pastels and jewel tones, whether in clothing or
>colour cosmetics (ie blush, shadows, and lipsticks), you are warm skinned
>(yellow based) hence you look best in cool colours. You're using the right
>foundation since NC20 is a yellow based foundation (which is what your skin
>is). They labelled their warm foundations C for cool so that women who look
>best in cool know that's the right foundation for them
>Remember, when it comes to foundation vs. colour cosmetics, opposites
>attract. If you have warm (yellow undertoned) skin, you wear warm foundation
>and cool colours. Cool skin, cool foundation and warm colours. Foundation
>is not meant to add colour to your face, but match it exactly. Colour
>cosmetics are used to compliment by contrast.

Ok, now I'm confused. My skin is very pale with pink undertones and I look
best in cool colors, or at least what I beleive are cool colors. I can't
wear orange or yellow or brown or coral based colors without a lot of
work. Am I an exception, or am I doing something wrong, or do I have the
colors misclassified? Maybe someone who's seen me can help me out here?

Charlotte

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