attn: Makeup Grrl
Kris in Philly
>>:way? Details, details, let's hear 'em. . . any story like the Toughest
>>:Person to Work On?
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>>:< PI >
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>>:P.S. Other makeup artists in our midst are also welcome to reply. . .
You know I was going to post something like this because I have always
been curious about MA's. I would like to know how you go about getting
a MAC card, not that I want one I am just curious about the process.
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Kris in Philly
"The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit."
- W. Somerset Maugham
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eligible for one (yyyyes!!!!) and I have the form she needs to fill out
right here.
You basically have to prove that you work either as a makeup-artist of
some kind, or as a aesthetician, cosmetologist, performer, model,
hairstylist, fashion stylist, "publicly known celebrity",
fashion/beauty press, agent/booker, photographer, fashion designer,
nail technician, director/producer/, publicist/PR, or student of any of
the above! They require a photo id and two "proofs" of what you do (in
my mom's case her cosmetologist's license and a busines card).
Anyhow, I am so incredibly excited that she qualifies for this. Its
going to bring my MAC purchases right down to drugstore prices. The
only problem is, my mom will have to know everything I buy.. :)
>
> You know I was going to post something like this because I have always
> been curious about MA's. I would like to know how you go about getting
> a MAC card, not that I want one I am just curious about the process.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Kris in Philly
> "The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit."
> - W. Somerset Maugham
>
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Before you buy.
Elke Von Freudenberg
Mac is by far the hardest place to get a pro card, cause so many people would
'claim' they were a model or a makeup artist with fake card..now, you have to
have an agent, a promo card, and some places even have to see a portfolio with
tears, and a recommendation from 3 people in the business...geez!!
Other makeup lines want to see a SAG or union card, promo card etc. Khiehl's
was the hardest for me...I had to be 'approved' by the manager..found out that
they called my agent to make sure they really were my agent.....each place has
their own guidelines...I've tried for a year to 'renew' my Origins card with
no success...and I don't know why....though I meet all their
qualifications...maybe I didn't 'buy' enough from them in the year?? Also,
most places only let you fax or call in an order. It's not like you can just
walk into any store and start buying. Which gets to be a hassel ( I see
something, and I want to buy it right now!) Or if I'm looking specifically
for a shoot the next day, waiting for the mail to arrive doesn't work. Mac is
one of the few that you can go to their Pro stores (only) and purchase...Club
Monaco only lets you pick ONE store to purchase from....(no luck for me if I
happen to be in another state at the time....)
I personally think they should also give discounts to students with a student
ID card.. with their prices the way they are, I think they'd build a great
loyalty that way..just my 2c worth.....
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Elke Von Freudenberg
question is, So how do you become a makeup artist anyway? What is the
typical path towards this career?---------
Well, as a 'bona fide' makeup artist, (haha, that sounds so funny!) I started
WAY back in high school...I started doing makeup for the photo shoots at John
Robert Powers (remember them???) and then someone said, 'oh my god! You must
be licensed to touch a person's face!"..so I freaked and went to beauty school
and got my state board the same month I graduated high school. Doing those
shoots let me to more photographers and more shoots, and more pictures for the
portfolio.....then I went to the Pasadena Fine Arts College where I tested
with photography students when they did their assignments, and did that for 3
years and learned a hell of a lot, with a free education along side
them....(security guards actually thought I was a student, I'd get parking tickets....)
I have been in alt.fash for 5 months but I have not seen this question
answered. I think people have talked about the other side, namely being or
becoming a model, but not about the people who make the models look great.
Is it all that it is cracked up to be? What surprises have you had along the
way? Details, details, let's hear 'em. . . any story like the Toughest
Person to Work On?>-------
Is it all it's cracked up to be? Absolutely...I'm in LOVE with my career..(I
always say if I could find someone who I loved as much as my
career.........haha) a new location everyday, a new team, a new model, a new
look. It's exciting, extremely creative....and for me the thrill is in the
final picture that you put in your portfolio, where you and everyone else
looks at it and goes WOW....Surprises along the way, are that it really isn't
how talented you are, but who you know (I've seen HORRIBLE makeup artists get
top jobs.....) and the attitudes in the business leave much to be desired.
Alot of bitches, alot of airs, alot of bullshit....but as you get higher up
the ladder, it goes away, because once you start working with people with
10-20,000+ budgets, no one wants to work with an attitude....
I've worked with Martin Short, Oprah Winfrey, Nikki Taylor, Kate Moss, 3rd
Rockfrom the Sun cast, Melrose Place cast, and I've been very lucky. Most are
nice when they realize that you're nice..I can't tell you how many 'horrible
makeup artists' stories I've heard.....I just make sure I don't become another story!!
All in all, it's a great career, glamorous, tiring, you go for 2 weeks without
a job and you freak....then it starts up again.....but damn I love it...
Elke
http://www.portfolio.gq.nu
In case you want to see my portfolio,
I really do this! Really!
haha, take care!
MakeupGrrl
<el...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Mac is by far the hardest place to get a pro card, cause so many people would
>'claim' they were a model or a makeup artist with fake card..now, you have to
>have an agent, a promo card, and some places even have to see a portfolio with
>tears, and a recommendation from 3 people in the business...geez!!
I'd heard that MAC was getting much stricter; though I just got my
card and having my cosmetology license plus a credit sheet from the
program of a production I worked on were enough. So far that's the
only discount card I have. I was afraid they were going to give me a
hassle, but fortunately they were really nice.
MG
Kris in Philly
>>:ID card.. with their prices the way they are, I think they'd build a great
>>:loyalty that way..just my 2c worth.....
I didn't realize that getting one would be so difficult and that other
lines offered cards as well. Thanks for the info since I have always
been curious about them.
PaganGrrl9
interesting fringe benefit to being St. Louis's Only Pagan Disco Queen!
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kendy
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Neptys
>typical path towards this career?
Well I'll just give thoughts on the other side. I THOUGHT I would like to be a
makeup artist because I love makeup. But what I found is that I Iove shopping
for individual makeup items advertised to the public and I like to apply these
items to ME for the effect it gives.
I worked as a makeup artist for a little while during in grad school. I did
photograhy work and makeup for special occasions. I got raves on the job (and
I still get requests) but there were a few drawbacks:
1- working under time-pressure is a bitch. Especially, for me at least, doing
foundation and concealer. You have to be fast and accurate at the same time.
But practice makes perfect though.
2- not being able to completely carry out your vision but bending to the will
of those in control
3 - buying and creating palettes. You really are an artist using colors the
way a painter would. So the brands names and fancy "new fangled" stuff that
appeals to me and thousands of other consumers isn't really necessary. The name
of the game is color, not brand, not item. That was boring to me.
4 - You are only as good as your last job. I agree w/ the person who said that
your f-ups will stand out more than your successes.
Good luck - if it is your passion and you truly enjoy it then you will succeed.
*neptys*
**makeup crazy but beautifully so**