Bon voyage
%Lorrill Buyens
(`rents, half-sister & me) going to spend three weeks in the UK next
July or August. Would any Plummies on the *right* side of the
Atlantic care to join us for a spot of tissue restoratives during our
sojourn, or at least recommend some of the better attractions?
Cordially yours,
Rosie M. Banks
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I.J. Cockburn
>The parental units recently surprised me with the news that
we're all
>(`rents, half-sister & me) going to spend three weeks in the
UK next
>July or August. Would any Plummies on the *right* side of
the
>Atlantic care to join us for a spot of tissue restoratives
during our
>sojourn, or at least recommend some of the better
attractions?
>
>Cordially yours,
>Rosie M. Banks
If all goes to plan, that's exactly when i WON'T be there,
and will have temporarily cast aside fair albion for the New
World of Canada. However, if you would say what area you are
going to, we would be glad to direct you to the places to be.
I myself am especially familiar with the Psmith/Threepwood
heartland of Shropshire, the centre for educating the Drones
Club of Oxford, the Lively Metropolis of London and the
not-really-plummy but wonderful all the same Leeds.
regards,
Mustard
der...@no.spam.leeds.ac.uk
> ... and the
> not-really-plummy but wonderful all the same Leeds.
There used to be a pub in the Merrion centre with a Jeeves and
Wooster theme; it looked deardful, and I never ventured therein.
Ben.
Bianchi
buyensl@prime*SPAMMERS.GO.HOME*net.com (%Lorrill Buyens) wrote:
>The parental units recently surprised me with the news that we're all
>(`rents, half-sister & me) going to spend three weeks in the UK next
>July or August. Would any Plummies on the *right* side of the
>Atlantic care to join us for a spot of tissue restoratives during our
>sojourn, or at least recommend some of the better attractions?
>
>Cordially yours,
>Rosie M. Banks
Greetings from Blandings on theBayou: I really enjoyed the boat trip
to Greenwich. The view from the river was great, Greenwich is very
interesting and I found the only place that can make a good hot scotch
and lemon. it's a small pub that also serves a delicous lunch. We got
on a double decker bus our firt night there and just rode around.
Don't go it alone because if it is break time the driver will put you
off the bus, no matter the hour or place and yoy have to reboard five
minutes later. Be sure and get a travel card here in the states so you
can whiz through the lines . If you buy them here you do not have to
pay tax, which is enormous. Toni Rudersdorf and I are going the last
week in March and the first week in April. I live in a city with no
public transportation but busses so the trains and underground were
fun as well as convenient. The 39 bus from Piccadilly will take you to
Dulwich which is Valley Fields in the books and also the home of
Dulwich College. you might can take a tour of it. There is a museum
in Emsworth where Wodehouse lived and found the inspiration for many
of the names of his characters. The people at the museum will treat
you like royalty if you let them know you read Wodehouse. They have a
collection of books that will make you drool. they were under lock and
key when we visited. I will let you know what Lymington , Bath
Brighten etc are like when i return. Lady Constance, world traveler
DronesClub
dispaired of the younger g. My own brother, a tender lad of 21, will be in
London next autumn for a semester abroad at some institution, & his first,
middle, & last order of business will be to make a bee-line for the nearest pub
where he will remain until a wise & paternal government deports him back to the
University of Iowa.
Your first move, young R. M. Banks, ought to take an architectural tour of
London. Christopher Wren, Inigo Jones, John Nash, et. al. Van Brugh's Blenheim
is also worth a look. And the best part is: all your architectural questions
can be answered in paralyzing detail right here at alt.fan.Wodehouse.
One word of caution: our English cousins have not yet had the good sense to
rage through the countryside & tear down all those awful Ruskin Gothic
buildings, & I fear the shock may be too much for youthful eyes. The works of
Sir George Gilbert Scott, one of the most prolific Gothic architects of the
late Victorian period, are fundamentally unsound, & I urge you to shield your
eyes lest you become shaded, cynical, & a believer in Bauhaus design.
Just some friendly words of advice.
The Old Etonian
David W.Talley
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In article <19981206090658...@ng-fu1.aol.com>,
drone...@aol.com (DronesClub) wrote:
> I urge you to shield your
>eyes lest you become shaded, cynical, & a believer in Bauhaus design.
Look here, you blighted Etonian. Let us not be overly critical of the
revolutionary developments pioneered (though admittedly not perfected) at
Bauhaus, what?
Stiffly,
Talley
Micahevans
I have met parking lots at malls with more character than the works of the late
Mr. Gropius. I do not personally hold him responsible for the uglification of
American architecture, but he will be a primary defendant at the trial.
I fear I must rigidly stand by McKims, Meads, & Whites, H.H. Richardsons,
Charles Bullfinches, & Alexander Parrises who made architecture in America
great.
Call me hidebound & reactionary.
The Old Etonian
JMG Joe
warring architectural factions.
That the Bauhaus movement, and its misbegotten illegitimate offspring
"Modernism", have produced excresences in concrete is beyond dispute. Also
beyond dispute is both of these movements' imbecilic fetish (borne of their
imbecilic affectation with socialism) to not appear "bourgeois".
Having said that, many of the more restrained efforts thereof have exhibited
clarity of line and purpose in their structure and are as much a joy to behold
as anything by MM&W.
Then of course, we come to Post-modernism...
A Young Man In Spats
c/o The Drones Club
16 Dover Street
London, W1
Paul Sexton
<mbia...@cwix.com> writes
>On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 16:31:50 GMT,
>buyensl@prime*SPAMMERS.GO.HOME*net.com (%Lorrill Buyens) wrote:
>
>>The parental units recently surprised me with the news that we're all
>>(`rents, half-sister & me) going to spend three weeks in the UK next
>>July or August. Would any Plummies on the *right* side of the
>>Atlantic care to join us for a spot of tissue restoratives during our
>>sojourn, or at least recommend some of the better attractions?
>>
>>Cordially yours,
>>Rosie M. Banks
>Greetings from Blandings on theBayou: I really enjoyed the boat trip
>to Greenwich. The view from the river was great, Greenwich is very
>interesting and I found the only place that can make a good hot scotch
>and lemon. it's a small pub that also serves a delicous lunch.
Hot scotch & lemon is available from a pub in Greenwich? If only I'd
known this 2 weeks ago as I travelled to & from work every day with a
heavy cold, my usual train stops at Greenwich on it's way to Charing
Cross & again on it's way home. For future reference, do you happen to
remember the name of this pub?
--
Paul Sexton Paul's Radio Museum
http://www.paulplu.demon.co.uk/radio/
Lorrill Buyens
Cockburn), while summoning a demon, chanted:
>Rosie m. banks telegrammed thusly:
>>The parental units recently surprised me with the news that
>we're all
>>(`rents, half-sister & me) going to spend three weeks in the
>UK next
>>July or August. Would any Plummies on the *right* side of
>the
>>Atlantic care to join us for a spot of tissue restoratives
>during our
>>sojourn, or at least recommend some of the better
>attractions?
>If all goes to plan, that's exactly when i WON'T be there,
>and will have temporarily cast aside fair albion for the New
>World of Canada. However, if you would say what area you are
>going to, we would be glad to direct you to the places to be.
The intended plan is several days in London, followed by a few in
Devon, a couple in Dublin & Edinburgh, and our return h.
>regards,
>Mustard
Cordially yours,
Rosie M. Banks
DronesClub
On Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 09:10 EST, a bespatted lad spake in a manner
thus:
>>That the Bauhaus movement, and its misbegotten illegitimate offspring
"Modernism", have produced excresences in concrete is beyond dispute. . .
.Having said that, many of the more restrained efforts thereof have exhibited
clarity of line and purpose in their structure and are as much a joy to behold
as anything by MM&W.<<
That, sir, is a defeatist attitude. Hardly the voice of reason, Sir. The propah
response is to send one's valet 'round for a bat of some kind - or perhaps a
stout stick - & rage through the city smashing modern architecture. The list of
offenders is a long one, but we pay particular homage to 37 Newbury Street,
Boston & have ordered Gwathmey Siegel & Associates put to the sword at our
earliest convenience.
Not just An Old Etonian, but
The Old Etonian
der...@no.spa.leeds.ac.uk
> of London. Christopher Wren, Inigo Jones, John Nash, et. al. Van
> Brugh's Blenheim is also worth a look. And the best part is: all your
> architectural questions can be answered in paralyzing detail right
> here at alt.fan.Wodehouse.
>
> One word of caution: our English cousins have not yet had the good
> sense to rage through the countryside & tear down all those awful
> Ruskin Gothic buildings, & I fear the shock may be too much for
> youthful eyes. The works of Sir George Gilbert Scott, one of the most
> prolific Gothic architects of the late Victorian period, are
> eyes lest you become shaded, cynical, & a believer in Bauhaus design.
Fogged. Gilbert Scott was responsible for such notable buildings as
the railway station at St. Pancras, and therefore indirectly also of
Sir John Betjemen's esssay on the same; and the General Infirmary at
Leeds. He is considered to be one of the greatest artitects that this
country has ever had. Much of the Bauhuas design, of great quality and
originality as it was and remains, has not stood the test of time.
Ben.
JMG Joe
<<That, sir, is a defeatist attitude. Hardly the voice of reason, Sir. >>
No, no, Auld Etonian old man,
I am singularly aware of the of the disgrace at 37 Newbury St., and am in
agreement with your sentiments thereon. It is the mortar and concrete
equivalent to the congressional delegation of the Bay State, and your couse of
action is a sound and valid one.
(I mean this as re. the architectural excresence, not the dubious legislators,
all of whom are to be dealt with via universal manhood suffrage...not that
several would mind said fate...but I digress.)
Howe'er...my point about the "milder" forms of Bauhaus/Modernist architecture
are still valid. And pity me, Sir, for I reside in the land of Art Deco.
cbi...@scruznet.com
(JMG Joe) wrote:
> As the clearest voice of reason...I must firmly stand between both of these
> warring architectural factions.
>
> That the Bauhaus movement, and its misbegotten illegitimate offspring
> "Modernism", have produced excresences in concrete is beyond dispute. Also
> beyond dispute is both of these movements' imbecilic fetish (borne of their
> imbecilic affectation with socialism) to not appear "bourgeois".
>
> Having said that, many of the more restrained efforts thereof have exhibited
> clarity of line and purpose in their structure and are as much a joy to behold
> as anything by MM&W.
>
> Then of course, we come to Post-modernism...
and in a later post:
> Howe'er...my point about the "milder" forms of Bauhaus/Modernist architecture
> are still valid. And pity me, Sir, for I reside in the land of Art Deco.
Would anyone knowledgable be willing to provide a chart of
English/American architecture? Am I being simplistic in thinking that it
is linear and of sufficiently large eras to include maybe 10-20 max
examples?
The reason I ask is that I like Art Deco, some Modern if it isn't the
'stripped down because it's cheaper style' and possibly even Gothic or
whatever the cathedrals are, but I have no idea what post-modernism is or
if it is to be despised and if so, on what grounds.
Charles, form follows function, Bishop
DronesClub
The Bishop of Stortford spake thusly:
>Would anyone knowledgable be willing to provide a chart of English/American
architecture? Am I being simplistic in thinking that it is linear and of
sufficiently large eras to include maybe 10-20 max examples?
>
The reason I ask is that I like Art Deco, some Modern if it isn't the 'stripped
down because it's cheaper style' and possibly even Gothic or whatever the
cathedrals are, but I have no idea what post-modernism is or if it is to be
despised and if so, on what grounds.<<
My dear Bish, there is nothing I would like more than to do than write a
seventy or eighty page treatise, comparing British & American styles, but that
would be a task beyond my simple capacity. I leave it to wiser heads than mine.
But you ask what post-modernism is & on what grounds it is to be despised.
Alas, I am not certain what defines it, but like Justice Potter Stewart's
definition of smut, I knows it when I sees it. John Ruskin, that bitter, old,
half-insane prophet, gives us the reason to hate it: "I like old things simply
because they are old and I hate new things simply because they are new." I
couldn't say it better if I tried, & I must remember to have that tattooed on
myself someday.
The Old Etonian
JMG Joe
places a small red pyramid atop all his creations.
Alan Bird
<drone...@aol.com> writes
<snip>
>One word of caution: our English cousins have not yet had the good sense to
>rage through the countryside & tear down all those awful Ruskin Gothic
>buildings, & I fear the shock may be too much for youthful eyes. The works of
>Sir George Gilbert Scott, one of the most prolific Gothic architects of the
>late Victorian period, are fundamentally unsound, & I urge you to shield your
>eyes lest you become shaded, cynical, & a believer in Bauhaus design.
>
>Just some friendly words of advice.
>
>The Old Etonian
Well yes, up to a point, Lord Copper. On the other hand we've got some
pretty damn fine real Gothic, not to mention Romanesque and Norman as
well. Durham Cathedral and that unknown gem (so much quieter than
nearby York Minster) Beverley Minster are world beaters.
--
Alan Bird Maj Brabazon Plank.
DronesClub
My dear old bird, you mistake me. I yield to no one in my appreciation of
British architecture. As you suggest, there are Gothic, Romanesque, and Norman
specimens that knock my socks off, though I have only seen them in pictures.
Alfred Waterhouse's Prudential Assurance building (1906) in Britain or Ralph
Adam Cram's Gothic revival churches in the U.S.always cause me to suck in the
breath in amazement.
I simply object to Ruskin Gothic. It strikes me of trying to add baroque
knick-knacks to Victorian architecture. It takes a respectably austere
Victorian structure and shoves a lot of miscellaneous baubles on every nook &
cranny. George Gilbert Scott loved shoving ornate whatnots all over his
buildings. I allude to St. Pancras Station (1868-1874) and the Midland Hotel,
which no longer stands. I like the basic style of these buildings, but there is
too much ornate details on them. Look at the Albert Memorial as another example
of bad Gothic, a monumental version of a medieval reliquary for the holding of
saintly relics and exotic allegorical statuary, surmounted with tiers of
angels.
It is simply a personal taste, but one has to speak forthrightly, frankly, &
fearlessly.
The Old Etonian