Re: Why atheists are a tiny 4% of Non-Believers (0.7% of the population) in the USA was Re: The Great Scientists who built modern Civilisation - Einstein
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Don H wrote:
>>> "fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:vR9Fm.50010$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> Michael Gordge revealed the withered soul of the atheist:
>>>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>> "The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe.
>>>>>> We are like a little child entering a huge library.
>>>>>> The walls are covered to the ceilings with books
>>>>>> in many different tongues.
>>>>>> The child knows that someone must have written these books.
>>>>>> It does not know who or how. It does not understand the
>>>>>> languages in which they are written. But the child notes a
>>>>>> definite plan in the arrangement of the books - a
>>>>>> mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but
>>>>>> only dimly suspects." - Albert Einstein
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Einstein stated at times that he did not believe in a Personal God,
>>>>>> and thus, like many theists, he did not pray for favours, like a child
>>>>>> with a shopping list of wants and desires he expected God to fulfil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Einstein accepted fully that man was a RATIONAL being with a capacity
>>>>>> to understand MEANING, if endowed with a Religious sensibility..which
>>>>>> is also the essential pre-requisite for theist *worship*, a sense of
>>>>>> awe and wonder, and of the remarkable order and structure to the
>>>>>> Universe;
>>>>>> " ..science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued
>>>>>> with the aspiration toward truth and understanding. This source
>>>>>> of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of Religion...
>>>>>> science without religion is lame, religion without science is
>>>>>> blind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Albert Einstein "Ideas and Opinions" 1954
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Naturally, even agnostics, who agree that there is no *conclusive*
>>>>>> proof for the non-existence of God(Atheism) or the existence of
>>>>>> God(Theism), acknowledge this central role which Religion plays and
>>>>>> has always played, in the evolving human civilisation, and the
>>>>>> scientific inquiry which has deepened it's understanding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats what makes them soo fucking stupid,
>>>>
>>>> See, that's why agnostics reject atheism! You are rude, ignorant,
>>>> dogmatic and full of hatred and venom..
>
> Actually agnostics quite often embrace one form of atheism,
We are not discussing the times Whorelord Steve sucks your cock! 8^o
>>>> no wonder the insightful
>>>> books of the worlds great religions describe you as Vipers.
>>
>> And every time the Vipers slither and hiss... they PROVE MY POINT:
>>
>>
>> > # If an atheist is "someone who does not believe in any god",
>>
>> Who cares how you define yourselves..
>>
>> I'm an agnostic, I don't believe Atheists can rationally Prove
>> that God does not exist, and Theists cannot PROVE that God does exist..
>> so the only rational position is to
>> admit that no one knows, and leave people to Freedom of Belief,
>> as guaranteed among all the Freedoms and Rights in the UN Charter,
>> every one of which was REMOVED by EVERY atheist regime in history!!!
>
> But it is the exercise of that freedom of belief that
> Fasgnadh attacks.
All I do is expose atheist beliefs and leave it to the decent
citizens to decide what they want to do about violent psychopaths
who advocate murder, desecration of the corpses and Genocide,
all of which are atheist traditions;
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
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# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
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# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
>> The problem with atheists is that like OTHER FUNDIES, they try and
>> DICTATE WHAT OTHERS, in their view, MUST BELIEVE!
>>
>> And As ARIS shows, 96% of non-believers tell atheists EXPLICITLY AND
>> CLEARLY, to bugger off, and STOP pretending they speak for us! B^D
>>
>> Yet despite being the most despised and distrusted MINORITY,
>> even among NON-Believers, the arrogant, dogmatic atheist thugs still
>> think they can DICTATE and DEFINE what other people are...
>> and that is why they are distrusted and despised!!! B^]
>>
>> > then ALL non-believers are atheists, like it or not.
>>
>> Clearly atheists are living in LaLa Land, ignoring the facts:
>>
>>>> Even the other non believers, over 95% of them, REJECT ATHEISM;
>>>>
>>>> # Subject: Re: US religious now at 85% - It's GOD in a LANDSLIDE!!!
>>>> # -Atheists wallow at 2.3% worldwide, 0.7% in the USA! -a pitiful
>>>> # fraction of the minority of non-believers! B^D
>>>> #
>>>> # From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
>>>> # Newsgroups:
>>>> # alt.atheism,aus.religion,alt.religion,aus.politics,
>>>> # alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc
>>>> # Message-ID: <8QNtl.26734$cu.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
>>>> # Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:07:32 GMT
>>>> #
>>>> # American Religious Identification Survey, Summary Report March 2009:
>>>> #
>>>> # "Self-identification of U.S. Adult Population by Religious Tradition
>>>> #
>>>> # 2001 2008
>>>> #
>>>> # Non- religious 29,481,000 (14.1%) 34,169,000 (15%)
>>>> #
>>>> # Religious 167,254,000 (80%) 182,198,000 (80%)
>>>> #
>>>> # Agnostics 991,000 (0.5%) 1,985,000 (0.9%)
>>>> #
>>>> # Atheists 902,000 (0.4%) 1,621,000 (0.7%)
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAA!
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # 0.7% of Americans!! B^D 2.3% worldwide!!! B^D
>>>> #
>>>> # 'NON-RELIGIOUS' DOES NOT = ATHEIST, YOU DISHONEST CRETINS!
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # EVEN THE AGNOSTICS BEAT YOU!!! **AND** they grew FASTER!!!! B^D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Athiests are 4% of the NON-Believers!! B^D
>>>>
>>>> Than means 96 out of every 100 non-believers EXPLICITLY reject atheism,
>>>> and yet you dogmatic and arrogant thugs try to speak for all of us?
>>>>
>>>> FOAD!
>>
>> > And if religious fanatics come hunting for heretics
>>
>> because the Militant Atheists provoke them, despite
>> hypocritically enjoying the protection of majority
>> religious societies, then we will simply point to the
>> Militant atheists and say.. there they are, we agnostics
>> rejected them and condemned their violence, brutality and
>> perversions, because we are moral and decent folk:
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>> #
>> # We kill theists and shit down their throats
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>>
>> We rational agnostics, and other non-believers have distinguished
>> ourselves from such Militant Atheist thuggery and Dogmatism, and
>> condemned atheist Hate Speech and perversions:
>>
>> Kill Jesus
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
>> Jesus light switch
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
>>
>>
>> Atheists are on their own. Any who supported Steve Knight and Trance
>> Stupor are likely to find themselves on the hot end of a lead enema!
>>
>> We have seen how those Christians deal with heretics! B ^D
>>
>> >they are not likely to discriminate;
>>
>> No, all those of you who stood by, defended the atheist tyrannies, and
>> defended this sort of perverted sickness will be treated just like the
>> ringleaders... but we rational agnostics already have close working
>> relationships with theists becasue we share their interest in Love,
>> as recent threads show, and in making it real through ACTION to help
>> the world, while atheism does NOTHING but Carp, insult and brutalise...
>>
>> > and all
>> > non-theists will burn at the stake,
>>
>> Rubbish, you fuckwits are so OUT OF DATE.. the Christians and Muslims
>> are now working together, they have no problem with those of us who
>> respect and work with their traditions! B^]
>>
>> You don't seem to have noticed my posts on the parliament of World
>> Religions.. they represent MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THE PLANET, every
>> business and government will treat them with accord.. wheras you
>> ranting lunatics are mocked by all and sundry! B^D
>>
>>
>> > in reality, we take a sadistic pleasure in your agony
>>
>> That was certainly the case in the USSR, Maoist China, Pol Pots
>> Genocide... I'm just surprised to hear you atheists admitting it
>> openly.
>>
>>
>> > - like the Taliban or Saudis,
>>
>> You sure are, you leader is a Porn Queen, who reveals his violent
>> psycho-sexual sadism and hatred of women frequently:
>>
>>
>> In a discussion of MUTUAL LOVE and willing surrender,
>> the atheist thug reveals his misogyny and bestial force.
>>
>> It's a common occurrence among the atheist perverts;
>>
>> People talking about Cosmology were shocked to find Steve
>> touting his pornographic bent:
>>
>> #From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
>> # Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory
>> # Message-ID: <j9p7e550bbdcc9oij...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:46:34 -0700
>> #
>> # "Firnando" wrote:
>> #
>> # >The Big Bang Theory
>> #
>> # You wanna see the big bang?
>> #
>> # NSFW!
>> #
>> # http://www.ovguide.com/adult.html
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>>
>> If you Google the word "Mother" for Steve Knight, this is what you find
>> Steve has to say about his idea of family relations;
>>
>>
>> # took his rubber cock out of his mouth, shoved it
>> # up his mother's ass and ...
>> #
>> # - From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,
>> # alt.agnosticism
>> # Subject: Re: Better place to debate theists?
>> # Message-ID: <8pj4e5pk7oi5ohvjp...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:06:52 -0700
>>
>>
>> His sick fantasies include violent murder and desecration
>> of the bodies of his enemies, men, women and children:
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>> #
>> # We kill theists and shit down their throats
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>> This Atheist LEADER, who they all pay homage to, even sick females
>> like Trance Stupor who share his perversions, uses imagery full
>> of the violent misogyny he expresses in the posts above:
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: Re: a.a.(atheist.angst.)
>> # OT(Ordinary and Tiresome) - not-a-Joke
>> # Message-ID: <i2cld5hbru4nugsib...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:37:21 -0700
>> #
>> # Your Dad wanted to watch me fuck your Mom in the
>> # ass and offered me a kilo of crack to do it.
>> # I told him she was so fucking fat and oily and smelled
>> # like two day old urine that I'd need at least five kilos
>> # and a gallon of Jack.
>> #
>> # The only thing keeping me interested is putting a bag
>> # over your sister's head and fucking her mouth.
>> # I love that cooing sound when she swallows my sperm.
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>>
>> As he admits, (rather unecessarily ;-) atheists have serious mental
>> issues and they come to Usenet to share their personal problems:
>>
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>> #
>> # We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists
>>
>>
>> Jung was right:
>>
>>
>> "Among all my patients in the second half of life, that is, over
>> thirty-five, there has not been one whose problem in the last
>> resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life.
>> It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because
>> he had lost that which the living religions of every age
>> have given their followers, and none of them has really
>> been healed who did not regain his religious outlook."
>>
>> -Carl G. Jung Modern Man in Search of a Soul
>>
>> They cannot RECOGNISE Love, because they think it means
>> perverted SEX!!!!!!
>>
>> Talking to an atheist about Love is like speaking to the BLIND
>> about the colours of a sunset.
>>
>> The snip it all and make ANIMAL noises.. they are captives
>> of their Lower Self.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's another reason why atheists are the most DISTRUSTED minority in
>>>> the USA.. you are abusive BEFORE you even hear another's argument.
>>>>
>>>>> cowards stuck on the fence
>>>> I wait till your own post reveals what an irrational fool you are,
>>>> and then accurately label you as one.. (of course atheists then
>>>> scream and bleat that *I* am 'hateful..' because they PROJECT their own
>>>> behaviour onto others all the time! but they are insignificant! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> It is not cowardice to admit the truth; it is cowardice to
>>>> SNIP IT, as you did, because you atheists cannot DEAL with the Truth;
>>>>
>>>> Agnosticism is the DEFAULT rational position becasue there is no
>>>> *conclusive* roof for the non-existence of God(Atheism) or the existence
>>>> of God(Theism). There can be a logical proof of theism, there cannot
>>>> be a logical proof of atheism.. so logically an agnostic would keep
>>>> an open mind toward theism.
>>>>
>>>> There is also plenty of historical evidence, mixed for theism,
>>>> totally negative for atheism.
>>>>
>>>> Atheists lose in any rational assessment of the position, even at the
>>>> first cut.
>>>>
>>>> There is also a whole corpus of evidence of the efficacy of spiritual
>>>> teachings.. even atheists prefer to live in majority RELIGIOUS
>>>> societies, which have evolved democratic, even SECULAR governments,
>>>> rather than atheist states which have ALL ( 100%!!! ) been shitholes!
>>>>
>>>> You can't argue with the historical facts... atheism SUCKS!
>>>>
>>>> And finally, I don't need conclusive proof that my wife loves me,
>>>> there is sufficient evidence to sustain a rational >>belief<<.
>>>>
>>>> So it is with God.
>>>>
>>>> Atheism and agnosticism are based on PROOF, Atheism doesn't
>>>> have any, and agnostics don't need any!
>>>>
>>>> Theism is based upon beliefs.. all too Mystic for you atheists..
>>>>
>>>> you best keep your mouths shut and stay out of it! B^]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> of evasion with their feet dangling into the mystic's camp
>>>>
>>>> See there's why you are such a tiny, fringe nutter group...
>>>>
>>>> you all fantasise like crazy.. Budikka is a Sci Fi nut,
>>>> Gray plays wargames, Fluffy calls himself a Warlord FFS!! B^D
>>>>
>>>> Trance craps on about Selling the Vatican.. you are all mad
>>>> as cut snakes.... B^]
>>>>
>>>> But then you bag really interesting mystics who have profound
>>>> things to say! pffft!
>>>>
>>>> You are boring, dogmatic, doctrinaire, adolescents, clearly
>>>> lacking in wit, originality or talent who band together
>>>> to feel superior, stroke each others weak ego's and ritually
>>>> spit on theists!
>>>>
>>>> It's a HOOT to watch, and a cinch to de-construct, mock
>>>> and deride to OBLIVION.... and that's why I have taken out
>>>> your entire 'intellignesia'.. because you are witless dimwits.
>>>>
>>>> B^]
>>>>
>>>> And it's time to let you in on another secret....
>>>>
>>>> I'm not talking TO you, I'm using you all as teaching aids.
>>>>
>>>> That's why i love being in your cult's KILLFILES..
>>>>
>>>> This is how people with Killfiles look to everyone else:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tomandang.com/blog/images/headUpArse.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Think about it as the paranoia festers! B^D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > ready to
>>>>> leap right on in, the agnostic is the mystic in waiting.
>>>> See, the way you knuckle-dragging trogs dismiss the mystic
>>>> sages, when you are all functionally illiterate is a RIOT! B^D
>>>>
>>>> You parade your ignorance with pride! B^]
>>>>
>>>> Rumi wrote about you SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS AGO;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1504
>>>>
>>>> Do not sit long with a sad friend
>>>> When you go to a garden
>>>> do you look at thorns or flowers?
>>>> Spend more time with roses and jasmine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Atheists are in pain.. their posts are endless whining...
>>>>
>>>> one long string of abuse...
>>>>
>>>> it reflects upon you, not those you direct it towards;
>>>>
>>>> When a simpleton abused him, Buddha listened to him in silence,
>>>> but when the man had finished asked him,
>>>> "Son, if a man declined to accept a present offered to him,
>>>> to whom would it belong?"
>>>> The man answered "To him who offered it."
>>>> "My son," Buddha said, "I decline to accept your abuse. Keep it for
>>>> yourself."
>>>>
>>>> - Will Durant The Story of Civilization.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> The first of those imbued with this Spirit were those who
>>>> >> contemplated the world around us,
>>>> >> and the Universe beyond, with the awe and
>>>> >> wonderment contained in the single word:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Lo! - behold.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Awake! for Morning in the Bowl of Night
>>>> >> Has flung the Stone that puts the Stars to Flight:
>>>> >> And Lo! the Hunter of the East has caught
>>>> >> The Sultan's Turret in a Noose of Light."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it mysticism, or simply poetry describing dawn light,
>>>>
>>>> .. or for the truly Blessed.. Both. 8^)
>>>>
>>
>>
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