Re: Atheist States - Standard Atheist Responses to EVIDENCE of atheist atrocities #3 Snip & run from the evidence, replace it with IRRELEVANCE

[fasgnadh]

On 10/06/2012 11:01 AM, sydm wrote:
>>> On 5/06/2012 6:12 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> Michael Gordge failed to refute a single fact, ran & laid smoke:
>>
>> Read the subject header..
>>
>> "ATHEIST STATES" and
>>
>> "ATHEIST RESPONSES to evidence of atheist atrocities:
>> SNIP AND RUN and replace with IRRELEVANCE
>>
>> So he snipped and ran and here is the COMPLETE IRRELEVANCE:
>>
>>> The only fact as far as religion is concerned

B^p

The only atheist who dares to post in a thread about atheist
states and he demonstrates he DOESN'T know what they are and certainly
is to scared to talk about them.. so he tries to CHANGE the SUBJECT
and RUNS!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA

>> The facts were about atheist states and your feeble irrational
>> snip and run irrelevance, you brainless atheist fucktard! B^D
>>
>> Thanks for PROVING my point! B^]
>>
>> <unsnip>
>>
>>>>> On 4/06/2012 8:13 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>> Lets start with a few (deliberate) atheist misconceptions;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Atheism is not Communism, Communism is not Atheism
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just as Fascism does not = German, German does not = Fascism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although, in both cases they are historically linked,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i.e. Every member of the Central Committee(Ruling Body)
>>>>>> of every Atheist State was an atheist AND a Communist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot,
>>>>>> Kim ill Fuk, Kim ill Suk, Kim Wrong Un ..all ATHEISTS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Atheist tyrants themselves are quite clear on this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>>>>>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>>>>>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
>>>>>> all this talk about God is sheer nonsense"
>>>>>> - Stalin
>>>>>> E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
>>>>>> Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
>>>>>> but of the entire atheist State apparatus;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
>>>>>> the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
>>>>>> every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
>>>>>> and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
>>>>>> WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”
>>>>>> -Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
>>>>>> and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>>>>>> - Daniel Peris,
>>>>>> "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
>>>>>> Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
>>>>>> In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
>>>>>> 3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
>>>>>> Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
>>>>>> in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
>>>>>> - John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
>>>>>> (Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Not all atheists are communists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Contemporary atheists are NOT responsible for the acts
>>>>>> of Atheists who ran the Atheist States and carried out
>>>>>> Atheist policies of mass forced indoctrination, oppression
>>>>>> of freedom to think and believe and speak, persecution of
>>>>>> theists, expropriation and destruction of churches, mosques,
>>>>>> temples, synagogues and other places of worship, terror,
>>>>>> torture, and mass murder of a scale never before seen,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no more than Christians are collectively responsible for the
>>>>>> Inquisition, Witch burnings, or any other violence carried out
>>>>>> in the name of, but against the teachings of ANY religion in
>>>>>> the past. No more than all Muslims are responsible for terrorist
>>>>>> acts of a tiny minority. Nor can one faith be responsible for
>>>>>> the misdeeds of members of another faith.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, those who deny, defend, run sly apologetics for the
>>>>>> atheist regimes MAKE THEMSELVES COMPLICIT in their Crimes Against
>>>>>> Humanity, just as those who cover up paedophile priests in their
>>>>>> organisation are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #########
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheists states of the 20th century were directly responsible for the
>>>>>> terror torture and death of over 80,000,000 people, more than any
>>>>>> other ideology, FAR more than any religion, in all of human history.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As this occurred in just seven decades, the death toll/year of rule
>>>>>> is astronomically higher than the 2-3,000 year time span of any
>>>>>> religions influence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And religions have the compensating benefit of dragging humanity
>>>>>> out of primitive barbarism during those centuries, and producing the
>>>>>> great and enduring civilisations from which we all benefit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No atheist regime has ever produced even one decent democracy, let
>>>>>> alone a great and enduring civilisation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every atheist regime in history has been a totalitarian tyranny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheist States General
>>>>>> - Case Study: The Cambodian Genocide
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
>>>>>> # by a government, typically by active suppression of
>>>>>> # religious freedom and practice."
>>>>>> # - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
>>>>>> # Characteristics and Consequences,
>>>>>> # David Kowalewski,
>>>>>> # Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
>>>>>> # monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
>>>>>> # Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
>>>>>> # other religious sentiments were often killed.
>>>>>> # ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
>>>>>> # and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
>>>>>> # and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
>>>>>> # starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
>>>>>> # prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
>>>>>> # instead of the family.
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
>>>>>> # were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
>>>>>> # - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # The Cambodian Genocide:
>>>>>> http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
>>>>>> # regarded by the regime as social parasites,
>>>>>> # were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
>>>>>> # Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
>>>>>> # destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
>>>>>> # Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
>>>>>> # rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
>>>>>> # or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
>>>>>> # were often killed.
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
>>>>>> # persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
>>>>>> # Phnom Penh was completely razed.
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
>>>>>> # regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
>>>>>> # Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
>>>>>> # - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
>>>>>> # because of their religion."
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/CANDEMIELDA/44camboyano.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>>>>>> # - Daniel Peris,
>>>>>> # "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
>>>>>> # Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
>>>>>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
>>>>>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
>>>>>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
>>>>>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
>>>>>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
>>>>>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
>>>>>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ATHEIST STATES - North Korea
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "North Korea's government exercises virtual total
>>>>>> control over society and imposes state sanctioned atheism"
>>>>>> - Hertzke, Allen. 2006.
>>>>>> Freeing God's Children. Rowman & Littlefield
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Although the North Korean constitution states that freedom of
>>>>>> religion
>>>>>> is permitted, free religious activities no longer exist in North Korea
>>>>>> as the government sponsors religious groups only to create an illusion
>>>>>> of religious freedom"
>>>>>> - Essential Background: Overview of human rights issues in
>>>>>> Human Rights in North Korea
>>>>>> (DPRK: The Democratic People's Republic of Korea)
>>>>>> (Human Rights Watch, 8-7-2004)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "All publications are subject to supervision and censorship by the
>>>>>> state.
>>>>>> There is no freedom of religion.
>>>>>> Independent worship is not allowed"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.hrw.org/legacy/english/docs/2004/07/08/nkorea9040.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "North Korea is officially an atheist state"
>>>>>> - World and Its Peoples: Eastern and Southern Asia
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Atheism continues to be the official position of the
>>>>>> governments of China, North Korea and Cuba."
>>>>>> - The State of Religion Atlas. Simon & Schuster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "autonomous religious activities now almost nonexistent;
>>>>>> government-sponsored religious groups exist to provide illusion of
>>>>>> religious freedom"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/kn.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #########
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
>>>>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>>>>>> # Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir and Kelsey
>>>>>> Bjarnyard? B^D
>>>>>> # Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
>>>>>> # Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # There has never been a "Great, Enduring Atheist Civilization"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason why is clear, the atheist states destroyed the
>>>>>> moral and spiritual values on which civilisations are based:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> e.g. The Cultural Devolution:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrUHVFkm9A
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheist states created a moral and spiritual vacuum,
>>>>>> much we see atheist NG's doing today;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is their leader before I shamed him into silence::
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>>>>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>>>>>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>>>>>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
>>>>>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # We kill theists and shit down their throats
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # Warlord Steve
>>>>>> # BAAWA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE of every
>>>>>> Muslim man woman and child, just for believing in something
>>>>>> the Atheist thugs want to prohibit again, freedom of thought and
>>>>>> belief;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>>>>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
>>>>>> # Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>>>>>> # Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
>>>>>> # Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
>>>>>> # <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
>>>>>> # The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # Warlord Steve
>>>>>> # BAAWA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The murdering Taliban do not consider themselves atheist,
>>>>
>>>> Irrelevant.
>>>>
>>>> Your implication that the Taliban murdering thousands
>>>> in any way mitigates the atheists murdering tens of millions
>>>> is logically absurd, morally repugnant and complete horseshit,
>>>> all we expect from atheist trolls.
>>>>
>>>> That's three strikes in this thread.. Atheism is OUT!
>>>>
>>>> Out of the realm of rational discourse.
>>>>
>>>> Out of date thuggery.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly OUT of it's mind, as the it's consistent support
>>>> of that psychopath they chose as their cult leader, and for
>>>> the atheist tyrannies they defend!
>>>>
>>>> So, having failed to refute a single fact in the damning indictment
>>>> of atheist tyranny, what will you go back to doing?
>>>>
>
> only irrelevance
>
>>>>> ewe fucking
>>>>>
>>>>> idiot.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well idiot,
>
> asshole.
>
Whatever, ... he says he's an 'idiot', your say 'arsehole',

split the difference and call him Idiotic arsehole..

>>>> I will have to report you to the RSPCA,
>>>> those sheep could not possibly have given consent.




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[Uergil]

In article <ruHCr.8334$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

NOthing but trolling.


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"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

[fasgnadh]

Uergil keeps proving my subject header (If you know Virgil, move on):

> NOthing but trolling.

Carry on, my little lab rat. B^]


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[Uergil]

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fasgnadh Defanged!