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Re: Is this still a valid Newsgroup - compared to the Atheism.Pleasantville alternative, it is at least ALIVE with FREE and OPEN discussion and debate! B^D

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fasgnadh

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Jun 15, 2012, 6:37:27 PM6/15/12
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On 12/06/2012 11:56 PM, buckeye wrote:
> Is this still a valid newsgroup

The fact that we can have this free and open exchange of views
is your answer.


> or has it been taken over by the spammers and idiots?

A USENET NG can not be 'taken over' by anyone unless it is moderated.

We all have the right to speak, and we all have the freedom not to listen.

No one can stoip you posting, and no one can make you read spam.

End of story.

The atheist trolls have admitted that they set up their censored,
moderated, comatose NG because they were losing numbers:


# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# From: Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated - It's alive again, non-fuctional atm
# Message-ID: <slrnjs297o....@usenet.home.b0h0.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:46:16 -0500
#
# On 2012-05-26, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
<god...@fidemturbare.com> wrote:
#
# > I've recently been considering an exit plan for this
# > "alt.atheism" newsgroup because I find the proselytizing
# > religious right-wing-nuts repeatedly attempting to re-define atheism as
# > a theology, among other things, to be tiring and stupid.
#
# I think a lot of people have been lost over the years

They were losing numbers because atheists were disheartened than none
of them had any rational response to the historical evidence that
every atheist regime in history has been a totalitarian tyranny
in which over 80,000,000 people were tortured, terrorised and killed
in the name of atheist persecution of freedom to think and believe.

Under such presure they fled the free open discussion groups where
they could not defend their dogma, into a closed, hermetically
sealed sheltered workshop where they could control(stifle) the criticism.

It doesn't work because we just extract their posts and critique them in
FREE USENET where they still look ridiculous and inept.



Q.E.D



>
> ***************************************************************
> You are invited to check out the following:
>
> The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
> http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm


Hysterical nonsense, the USA is not a theocracy it's a secular
democracy, evolved by it's majority religious society and
preferred by everyone, even the hypocritical atheists, to ANY
atheist regime! B^]

Actions speak louder than atheist bullshit.


> THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
> SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

What a contrast to the free deabet over such triumphs of majority
religious societies and the tyranny of atheist states, reflected in the
dishonest attempts of domestic atheist tools of those tyrannies to
control and suppress free speech:

--


When it was revealed that alt.atheism.moderated.by.bigots.and.trolls
was declining in it's daily traffic, Mike Lenin from Pravda
Propaganda set about to "FIX" it: B^D

# From: Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>
# Subject: The atheism is faith based destruction question
# Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:24:25 -0500
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

# From: Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>
# Subject: AA: What happens after you die
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

atheist parasites SIPHON your posts! B^D

---------


The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:


http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/



- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012


http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

---------

alt.atheism FAQ:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/


http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source



"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)



http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest


"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest

http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg

Uergil

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Jun 15, 2012, 8:14:27 PM6/15/12
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In article <IOOCr.8083$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The fact that we can have this free and open exchange of views
> is your answer.
>
>
> > or has it been taken over by the spammers and idiots?
>
> A USENET NG can not be 'taken over' by anyone unless it is moderated.

Actually it can, by groups of trolls like you who simply posts so many
idiotic posts full of gross lies and insults that ordinary people give
up on it.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

fasgnadh

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Jun 15, 2012, 9:12:13 PM6/15/12
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Uergil Proves that FREE USENET is open to all, not like a.a.m, troll HQ:
> On 16/06/2012 8:37 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 12/06/2012 11:56 PM, buckeye wrote:
>>> Is this still a valid newsgroup
>>
>> The fact that we can have this free and open exchange of views
>> is your answer.
>>
>>
>>> or has it been taken over by the spammers and idiots?
>>
>> A USENET NG can not be 'taken over' by anyone
>
> Actually it can,

The fact that you post and disagree with me proves that
a FREE USENET NG can't
>> unless it is moderated.
>
> by groups of trolls

As is alt.atheism.moderated


>> We all have the right to speak, and we all have the freedom not to listen.


but that's not enough for the atheist trolls, who, lacking
a rational argument need to SILENCE the views of others
before they feel safe to tell their atheist lies.

>> No one can stop you posting, and no one can make you read spam.
> like you

Sure Virgil, everyone likes me, especially you, who has nothing to
say of relevance on any topic and needs to parasitically leech of
my every post in the vain hope that someone will read you just because
you are attacked to posts of interest.

They won't,

you are a troll....

> who simply posts so many idiotic posts full of gross lies and
> insults that ordinary people give up on it.


Don't forget your forgeries, character assassinations and racism;

# Subject: Re: is Fasgnadh an Abo?
# From: Virgil <Vir...@home.esc>
# Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:52:51 -0600
# Message-ID: <Virgil-BB4C23....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
# Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
# NNTP-Posting-Host: 4e5a40b4.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
# X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
#
# In article <hao8np$qus$3...@news.eternal-september.org>,
# Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com>the repulsive bigots butt-booy wrote:
# > Olrik the redneck racist bigots bum-boy wrote:
# >>Virgil the redneck racist bigot wrote
#
# >>> If he is actually Australian,
# >>> then he might be an Abo who spent his childhood in the
# >>> outback and only came to civilization in his teens.
# >>
# >> you *ABOmination*

He certainly is, and so are you, Cleetus.

He can't argue with me so his idea of an insult
is to call me an abominable aborigine:

# Actually I meant an absolutely abominable aborigine,
# as black of soul as of skin.

Fuck you, you weak racist pig molestor.

---------------------------------------

Virgil tells an agnostic that agnostics are atheists:

# From: Virgil <Vir...@home.esc>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.agnosticism
# Subject: Re: Idiot atheist tries to change the Subject
# Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:41:15 -0600
# Message-ID: <Virgil-99B283....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
#
# Since you have several times stated that you do not believe
# in any gods, you are now a member of that happy band of atheists


Virgil tells the same poster he should defend Creationism because,
today, Virgils calls him a Theist:

# From: Virgil <Vir...@home.esc>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.agnosticism
# Subject: Re: Idiot Fasgnadh tries to change the Subject
# Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:26:41 -0600
# Message-ID: <Virgil-0AF644....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
#
# Creationism, being one of the blessings that theism has produced,
# Fasgnadh must be a supporter of it as he is of all theists idiocies.



# Subject: Re: "Why does fasgnadh repost the same atheist lies?"
# From: Vurgil <Vur...@arg.erg>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.atheism.satire,
# alt.agnosticism,alt.religion, alt.philosophy,aus.politics,
# uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.republicans
# Organization: Vurgil
# Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:32:02 -0600
# Message-ID: <Vurgil-123170....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
#
# "It¹s very important to understand that these Gods
# came into being by an explicable scientific progression
# of incremental evolution."
#
# Read it all at and see that Dawkins lies.
#
# http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all

Virgil Forgery


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# Subject: Re: Proof by LORD Almighty CHUNG; christians lack maturity ...
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# In article
# <ccd047bf-2dd3-46fd...@g19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
# "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
#
# > ... reminding us of those foul-mouth theists that we have left
# > behind in the playground decades ago.
#
# Among whom A. B. Chung is primary.

A. B. Chung did not write those words, they are forged
by Virgil <vmh...@comcast.net>

aka Chung <A...@cde.com>

aka ABCHUNG <A...@def.ghi>

aka hdangsaf <h...@ng.saf>

aka A Nony Mouse <vir...@nowhere.com

As you can see Virgil impersonates Chung as part of his
forgery and cyberstalking.

A. B Chungs actual post is below, you can see that text attributed
to him has been forged.



_________________________________-
ActualPost:
__________________________________


# From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
# Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.atheism,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology
# Subject: Proof by LORD Almighty GOD; non-christians lack maturity ...
# Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 07:39:29 -0700 (PDT)
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alt.atheism:2715092 alt.christnet.christianlife:680962
alt.christnet.theology:135479
#
# ... reminding us of those foul-mouth delinquents that we have left
# behind in the playground decades ago:

###############################

All of these sockpuppets are the same person
as can easily be determined from the headers.



@ From: Virgil <vmh...@comcast.net>
@ Subject: Jesus is Bored with Chung ! ! !
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# From: Chung <A...@cde.com>
# Newsgroups: sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,
# alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theologyalt.atheism,
# Subject: Re: Theist Frauds and Forgers
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# Newsgroups:
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The impersonation, forgery and cyberstalking
are enabled and allowed by

Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com

Virgil has made clear his purpose in cyberstalking,
it is to stop his targets from posting;

"stop posting to alt.atheism, and we will stop"

- Virgil aka Chung aka BJChung aka..
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