Did Han Solo really shoot Greedo first in ANH?
Tavington
I am watching Star Wars: A New Hope (Special Edition) with my friends and my
favorite scene is the one where Han Solo is confronted by Greedo in the
cantina. I find it really cool the way Han is able to remain calm as Greedo
shoots first and they Han coolly fires back with a shot of his own, felling
him.
One of my friends claims to have watched Star Wars: A New Hope when he was
younger 10 years ago with his brother and that he distinctly remembers Han
shooting first after saying "I bet you have...". I highly doubt this as it
completely makes Han Solo's character much worse. In fact, it makes him
some kind of vile anti-hero.
If this is the case (though I doubt this), I much prefer the Star Wars: A
New Hope (Special Edition) version of this scene by the sounds of it. I am
glad that George Lucas corrected this abomination as it has no place in a
classic film series such as Star Wars. I think that anyone who would prefer
the old scene is akin to someone who hates the brilliant character of Jar
Jar Binks.
However, I have seen the original "Empire Strikes Back" and I must say that
ESB: SE is far superior. I especially enjoyed the part where Luke is
screaming for his life in SE instead of falling silently in the original.
The latter makes Luke look like a reactionary, right-wing blowhard (strong,
silent type) while the former makes him seem more realistic, not afraid to
express his fear and emotions.
With the changes in the SE, I think they have made Star Wars more
politically correct in order to prepare audiences for George Lucas's
greatest masterpiece thus far, "The Phantom Menace". True Star Wars fans
will agree that TPM far surpasses the original trilogy (ANH, ESB and ROTJ)
although TPM is only slightly better than ROTJ. However, some cynical
so-called Star Wars fans have attacked this superior film and have abandoned
the SW franchise. These are traitors to the vision of George Lucas.
I think that these so-called fans are what I would classify as "Han
Solo/Boba Fett/Darth Maul" fans. These idiots prefer the darker side of
Star Wars instead of its more positive and more politically correct side
(Jar Jar Binks, Ewoks et al).
Now to get a few things off of my chest. I'm sick and tired of you racist
homophobes who don't like Jar Jar Binks. Star Wars is about poltical
correctness, diverisity and multiculturalism, and if you got a problem with
that: sod off you stupid wanker! You deserve to be branded and imprisoned
because you are a hate speech criminal. Jar Jar haters are no better than
the "forces of darkness" that the visionary Lucas has spoken out against.
I have a question for you Jar Jar haters: if everyone hates Jar Jar so much
then how come TPM is the highest grossing Star Wars movie of all time? Can
millions of true Star Wars fans be wrong?
The truth is Jar Jar Binks and TPM make ANH and ESB look like shit, OK? Jar
Jar is a much more interesting and more inclusive character than that
mysoginist
Han Solo. His fans are typical male chauvinist anti-choice pigs who voted
for the right-wing racist cowboy George Bush. If you don't like Jar Jar
then you are not a true Star Wars fan. Racists like you deserve to be
stripped of your civil rights. I believe in freedom of speech but hate
speech like this should be banned and its practicioners should be imprisoned
for life.
VOTE DEMOCRAT IN 2002!
33
the most part.
Tavington wrote in message <3cb4b6a4$1...@news.cybersurf.net>...
JR
that of the scream you hear in Return Of The Jedi from The Emperor. It's
the same sound effect, only inserted in to Luke's situation. That really
pissed me off when I heard that.
I also hated the fact that the music in ROTJ was changed in Jabbas' palace.
I liked Lapti Nek alot better than the new song with the new character.
JR
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usher
>VOTE DEMOCRAT IN 2002!
HEY! Don't ruin a perfectly good troll with Earth politics!
usher
Rambling Old Cynical Jedi Engineer
http://www.shavenwookie.com/rassm/
http://melosh.tripod.com/
33
redeems himself in his love for Leia...
33 wrote in message ...
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: Hello,
-snips possible troll material-
it... it.. it's gotta be a troll.. it's too funny to be real!
if not.. i liked it better when solo fired first.. it made his character a
badass.. which makes his deveopment into a "fight for the good guys" person
even better.. i spose.. it showed that solo had balls... and wasn't just
simply defending himself.
besides, the coulda done a little better job of making it look like solo
moved outta the way... looks like he did that 'force dodge' like qui-gon and
obi-wan did when running from the destroyers
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appointments, ie Colin Powell, Conaleeza Rice, etc.??
Stupid Troll.
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Tucci
"33" <thirt...@rogers.com>:
:-/
"Tavington" <tavi...@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
<snip>
I hate you
Rei Ayanami
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Muuurgh
-Muuurgh
Go on now!
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Tucci
"John Lynch, Jr." <nospaml...@bellsouth.net>:
Tucci
":-/" <m...@yourmoms.house>:
Tucci
Bill Kohlleppel
> Hello,
>
> I am watching Star Wars: A New Hope (Special Edition) with my friends and my
> favorite scene is the one where Han Solo is confronted by Greedo in the
> cantina. I find it really cool the way Han is able to remain calm as Greedo
> shoots first and they Han coolly fires back with a shot of his own, felling
> him.
>
Poor sap, didn't get to see the original.
>
> One of my friends claims to have watched Star Wars: A New Hope when he was
> younger 10 years ago with his brother and that he distinctly remembers Han
> shooting first after saying "I bet you have...". I highly doubt this as it
> completely makes Han Solo's character much worse. In fact, it makes him
> some kind of vile anti-hero.
>
Your friend is right. Greedo never got a shot off. I never understood why GL
had to go back and make it all PC. I mean either way you look at it, it was
self-defense on Han's part. Greedo had no intention of letting Han get out of
there alive. His sole motivation was to bag Solo for the fame anf fortune
involved in accomplishing such a feat. Too bad for him that Han was faster and
more cunning on the draw.
Anti-hero? Not at all. Look at Greedo's motives/actions. It was clearly an act
of self-preservation and defense on Han's part. Besides, the way they redid
that scene make the whole scene look really cheesey!
>
> If this is the case (though I doubt this), I much prefer the Star Wars: A
> New Hope (Special Edition) version of this scene by the sounds of it. I am
> glad that George Lucas corrected this abomination as it has no place in a
> classic film series such as Star Wars. I think that anyone who would prefer
> the old scene is akin to someone who hates the brilliant character of Jar
> Jar Binks.
>
All in the name of being politically correct. The SE scene was terrible. It was
perfect just the way it was the first time around. What would you know what
belongs in Star Wars? From what you have stated, you appear to be a second
generation fan of the OT, whereas I am the first generation fan. Meaning I grew
up on the OT, I saw them in their original formats. There was nothing wrong
with them before. Ok, maybe the clock scenes in ANH, but other than that,
nothing wrong at all.
>
> However, I have seen the original "Empire Strikes Back" and I must say that
> ESB: SE is far superior. I especially enjoyed the part where Luke is
> screaming for his life in SE instead of falling silently in the original.
> The latter makes Luke look like a reactionary, right-wing blowhard (strong,
> silent type) while the former makes him seem more realistic, not afraid to
> express his fear and emotions.
>
> With the changes in the SE, I think they have made Star Wars more
> politically correct in order to prepare audiences for George Lucas's
> greatest masterpiece thus far, "The Phantom Menace". True Star Wars fans
> will agree that TPM far surpasses the original trilogy (ANH, ESB and ROTJ)
> although TPM is only slightly better than ROTJ. However, some cynical
> so-called Star Wars fans have attacked this superior film and have abandoned
> the SW franchise. These are traitors to the vision of George Lucas.
>
I think making them more PC was based on the idea that our society has shifted
that way and he doesn't want to upset the masses. But I say, who cares? Are we
going to go back and change everything that was made pre-PC era just so that we
don't offend everyone? I think not. I think that great masterpieces should just
be left alone as they are, unaltered.
Ever hear of the phrase, "you can't duplicate perfection"? Well I think it
applied here.
>
> I think that these so-called fans are what I would classify as "Han
> Solo/Boba Fett/Darth Maul" fans. These idiots prefer the darker side of
> Star Wars instead of its more positive and more politically correct side
> (Jar Jar Binks, Ewoks et al).
>
Really? I was always a Luke Skywalker fan, a far cry from the dark side. And I
prefer the OT, for the most part in the original form. PC is a crock of crap.
PC is for the fools of the world who don't want to acknowledge the world for
what it truly is: a very dark place and humanity is in the middle of one giant
cesspool.
>
> Now to get a few things off of my chest. I'm sick and tired of you racist
> homophobes who don't like Jar Jar Binks. Star Wars is about poltical
> correctness, diverisity and multiculturalism, and if you got a problem with
> that: sod off you stupid wanker! You deserve to be branded and imprisoned
> because you are a hate speech criminal. Jar Jar haters are no better than
> the "forces of darkness" that the visionary Lucas has spoken out against.
>
Star Wars is nothing about being PC, never has been and never will be. It has
always been a simple Space Opera. That's it. You are reading way too much into
a simple story.
>
> I have a question for you Jar Jar haters: if everyone hates Jar Jar so much
> then how come TPM is the highest grossing Star Wars movie of all time? Can
> millions of true Star Wars fans be wrong?
>
You make it sound like he carried the whole of the film rather than the film
actually having some good content all on its own. Now I am no Jar Jar hater,
but I don't think he soley made the movie a success. He just had a very small
part in it.
>
> The truth is Jar Jar Binks and TPM make ANH and ESB look like shit, OK? Jar
> Jar is a much more interesting and more inclusive character than that
> mysoginist
Why, because there is more current special effects attached to the film?
Comparing apples to oranges in that respect. The technology has changed over
the last 27 years. Of course technologically speaking, TPM is going to make ANH
and ESB look second rate. But to say that it is shit? You are so woefully
messed up.
>
> Han Solo. His fans are typical male chauvinist anti-choice pigs who voted
> for the right-wing racist cowboy George Bush. If you don't like Jar Jar
> then you are not a true Star Wars fan. Racists like you deserve to be
> stripped of your civil rights. I believe in freedom of speech but hate
> speech like this should be banned and its practicioners should be imprisoned
> for life.
>
> VOTE DEMOCRAT IN 2002!
I can see that you are politically driven here. So what does real life politics
have anything to do with Star Wars? Answer: Nothing. You have just proved
yourself an idiot. Who are you to question the status of fandom of anyone
around here? Growing up I was always annoyed by Han Solo and he's one of the
best kick ass characters in the story. Does that make me any less of a Star
Wars fan? No.
George Bush a right-wing racist? That's a good one. Think of this crap all by
yourself? Are you even a citizen of this country or some idiot from foreign
lands blowing smoke because you don't like the way this country is being run.
The fact of the matter is we finally have a President who is thinking of his
countrymen first instead of his own political agendas. He has offered hope to a
country that was devastated last September. He is doing all he can to secure
peace in this cesspool of a world that we live in. Bush is far from being a
racist. He is a humanitarian!
So if you believe in the censorship of hate speech then you yourself should be
censored, right? Do us all a favor and shut up. You are an annoying troll!
VOTE ACCORDING TO YOUR BELIEFS IN 2002!!!
Rebel Alliance Lt. Commander Aramys Strael
Bryan Harrison
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> Went right over your head, my friend...
>
>
Do you actually have anything to say, or are you just continuing Tavington's
trolling?
--
Bryan Harrison
C'Pi
"Bryan Harrison" <br...@NOSPAMspot1701.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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And are you...
Never mind, it's not worth it.
C'Pi
We are all Clones
Bryan Harrison
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> > Do you actually have anything to say, or are you just continuing
> Tavington's
> > trolling?
>
> And are you...
>
Only as much as you just did.
--
Bryan Harrison
C'Pi
But I enjoy doing it.
:-/
Ah, well anyone that wants to re-hash the "Greedo Shoots First"
thread, is an asshole.
C'Pi
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Oh foul Temptress, do not test me so.
Jade Lemonade
<snip it>
Finally, someone who shares my views on the world.
Jade
--
<beavis mode> He he. I'm replying to the troll. <beavis mode>
The Arctic Moose
in a vision...
[snip]
He's funny, can we keep him in a jar?
--
The Arctic Moose
"One time my cousin Walter got this cat stuck in his ass, true story. He
bought it at our local mall so the whole fiasco wound up on the news, it
was embarrassing for my relatives and all, but the next week he did it
again, different cat, same results, complete with another trip to the
emergency room. So I run into him a week later in the mall and he's
buying another cat and I says to him 'jesus walt what are you doing, you
know you're just going to get this cat stuck in your ass too, why don't
you just knock it off?' And he said to me 'Brodie how the hell else am I
supposed to get the gerbil out?' My cousin was a weird guy"
Bryan Harrison
news:MPG.171faff97...@news.ntlworld.com...
> He's funny, can we keep him in a jar?
Sure, just make sure there aren't any air-holes in the jar.
--
Bryan Harrison
usher
>The fact of the matter is we finally have a President who is thinking of his
>countrymen first instead of his own political agendas.... He is doing all he can to secure
>peace in this cesspool of a world that we live in. Bush is far from being a
>racist. He is a humanitarian!
TROLL!
Right, no mixing earth politics with SW.
I've slept since then.
>VOTE ACCORDING TO YOUR BELIEFS IN 2002!!!
Amen.
usher
Vote.
Philip Heppenstall
much
> then how come TPM is the highest grossing Star Wars movie of all time?
Can
> millions of true Star Wars fans be wrong?
>
Cinema tickets were cheaper in 1977, so if the same number of people went
then as now it would gross less money.
Do you see?
33
first Han paragraph, then I disregarded it. Pretty Brilliant stuff,
actually.
Philip Heppenstall wrote in message ...
Jade Lemonade
> It's, of course, ironic humor, I didn't bother to read it all, just the
> first Han paragraph, then I disregarded it. Pretty Brilliant stuff,
> actually.
What!?
Jade
--
It's malicious trolling.
usher
>It's malicious trolling.
Yet a well crafted troll. I almost started to contradict the original
message, but I forced myself to read the whole thing first.
usher
HAN RULZ!
Tucci
> Ah, well anyone that wants to re-hash the "Greedo Shoots First"
>thread, is an asshole.
Come on, people -- it was a JOKE. Am I the only one who saw that?
Sheesh.
Tucci
>"Jade Lemonade" <jad...@my-deja.com> scrbbled this on the wall:
>>It's malicious trolling.
>Yet a well crafted troll. I almost started to contradict the original
>message, but I forced myself to read the whole thing first.
Exactly -- that's why I posted those "over your head" comments. This
was FUNNY. It was meant to be ironic, but unfortunately, 99% of the
people who read it started attacking the guy instead of appreciating
how humorous the post was.
res0ovau
"Tucci" <tu...@tucci.net> wrote in message
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Daniel O. Miller
I didn't think it was funny, but I DID get it.
Daniel O. Miller
"Does this look familiar? Do you know what it is? Neither do I! I made
it last night in my sleep. Apparently I used gindrogac - highly unstable!
I put a button on it, yes? I wish to press it, but I'm not sure what will
happen if I do..." - Gune
Bill Anderson
Tucci wrote:
A troll? Of course. Obviously.
Funny? I didn't smile...I just kept feeling more and more sad as I read
through it. The attempt at irony was heavy-handed and pathetic. The fact
that some took it seriously did not make it amusing. Read it again, Rich.
The irony is hateful.
Bill Anderson
--
I am the Great Favog
usher
>wait...are you saying that Solo really did fire first?
yes
usher
Mike Miller
Yates.
"Tavington" <tavi...@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
news:3cb4b6a4$1...@news.cybersurf.net...
> Hello,
>
> I am watching Star Wars: A New Hope (Special Edition) with my friends and
my
> favorite scene is the one where Han Solo is confronted by Greedo in the
> cantina. I find it really cool the way Han is able to remain calm as
Greedo
> shoots first and they Han coolly fires back with a shot of his own,
felling
> him.
>
> One of my friends claims to have watched Star Wars: A New Hope when he was
> younger 10 years ago with his brother and that he distinctly remembers Han
> shooting first after saying "I bet you have...". I highly doubt this as
it
> completely makes Han Solo's character much worse. In fact, it makes him
> some kind of vile anti-hero.
>
> If this is the case (though I doubt this), I much prefer the Star Wars: A
> New Hope (Special Edition) version of this scene by the sounds of it. I
am
> glad that George Lucas corrected this abomination as it has no place in a
> classic film series such as Star Wars. I think that anyone who would
prefer
> the old scene is akin to someone who hates the brilliant character of Jar
> Jar Binks.
>
> However, I have seen the original "Empire Strikes Back" and I must say
that
> ESB: SE is far superior. I especially enjoyed the part where Luke is
> screaming for his life in SE instead of falling silently in the original.
> The latter makes Luke look like a reactionary, right-wing blowhard
(strong,
> silent type) while the former makes him seem more realistic, not afraid to
> express his fear and emotions.
>
> With the changes in the SE, I think they have made Star Wars more
> politically correct in order to prepare audiences for George Lucas's
> greatest masterpiece thus far, "The Phantom Menace". True Star Wars fans
> will agree that TPM far surpasses the original trilogy (ANH, ESB and ROTJ)
> although TPM is only slightly better than ROTJ. However, some cynical
> so-called Star Wars fans have attacked this superior film and have
abandoned
> the SW franchise. These are traitors to the vision of George Lucas.
>
> I think that these so-called fans are what I would classify as "Han
> Solo/Boba Fett/Darth Maul" fans. These idiots prefer the darker side of
> Star Wars instead of its more positive and more politically correct side
> (Jar Jar Binks, Ewoks et al).
>
> Now to get a few things off of my chest. I'm sick and tired of you racist
> homophobes who don't like Jar Jar Binks. Star Wars is about poltical
> correctness, diverisity and multiculturalism, and if you got a problem
with
> that: sod off you stupid wanker! You deserve to be branded and imprisoned
> because you are a hate speech criminal. Jar Jar haters are no better than
> the "forces of darkness" that the visionary Lucas has spoken out against.
>
> I have a question for you Jar Jar haters: if everyone hates Jar Jar so
much
> then how come TPM is the highest grossing Star Wars movie of all time?
Can
> millions of true Star Wars fans be wrong?
>
> The truth is Jar Jar Binks and TPM make ANH and ESB look like shit, OK?
Jar
> Jar is a much more interesting and more inclusive character than that
> mysoginist
Michael Ward
I think your the only one who thinks your the only one who saw that.
> Sheesh.
>
MegaPrime
all of the Indiana Jones movies.
"JR" <don'tsendm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The scream you hear Luke when he gets beaten by Darth Vader and falls, is
> that of the scream you hear in Return Of The Jedi from The Emperor. It's
> the same sound effect, only inserted in to Luke's situation. That really
> pissed me off when I heard that.
> I also hated the fact that the music in ROTJ was changed in Jabbas'
palace.
> I liked Lapti Nek alot better than the new song with the new character.
>
Shadow
"Tavington" <tavi...@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I am watching Star Wars: A New Hope (Special Edition) with my friends and
my
> favorite scene is the one where Han Solo is confronted by Greedo in the
> cantina. I find it really cool the way Han is able to remain calm as
Greedo
> shoots first and they Han coolly fires back with a shot of his own,
felling
> him.
>
> One of my friends claims to have watched Star Wars: A New Hope when he was
> younger 10 years ago with his brother and that he distinctly remembers Han
> shooting first after saying "I bet you have...".
Was it nice on that desert island?
Harry Cox
be working on that instead of wasting time posting in NGs? Get back to
work.
>Hello,
>
>I am watching Star Wars: A New Hope (Special Edition) with my friends and my
>favorite scene is the one where Han Solo is confronted by Greedo in the
>cantina. I find it really cool the way Han is able to remain calm as Greedo
>shoots first and they Han coolly fires back with a shot of his own, felling
>him.
>
>One of my friends claims to have watched Star Wars: A New Hope when he was
>younger 10 years ago with his brother and that he distinctly remembers Han
C'Pi
"Bill Anderson" <billand...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3CB6194E...@yahoo.com...
I agree with the Taco Bell hater.
:-/
respond accordiingly. The Greedo Shoots First thread had a lot of
passionate fans up in arms and it seemed to go on... and on... and on...
and on...
Paula
Bill Kohlleppel
> Bill Kohlleppel <kohll...@attbi.com> scrbbled this on the wall:
>
> >The fact of the matter is we finally have a President who is thinking of his
> >countrymen first instead of his own political agendas.... He is doing all he can to secure
> >peace in this cesspool of a world that we live in. Bush is far from being a
> >racist. He is a humanitarian!
>
> TROLL!
>
Were you calling me a troll? Foul demon, get behind me satan!
I'm better now. I was merely responding to his line of jibberish with solid facts so that the
next time that he opens his trap he is more well informed and doesn't look like the idiot that
he has cast himself to be.
>
> Right, no mixing earth politics with SW.
> I've slept since then.
>
> >VOTE ACCORDING TO YOUR BELIEFS IN 2002!!!
>
> Amen.
>
Thankyou.
>
> usher
> Vote.
> Rambling Old Cynical Jedi Engineer
> http://www.shavenwookie.com/rassm/
> http://melosh.tripod.com/
Rebel Alliance Lt. Commander Aramys Strael
The Arctic Moose
> peace in this cesspool of a world that we live in. Bush is far from being a
> racist. He is a humanitarian!
>
By blowing the shit out of the people he doesn't like? Sounds like the
easy way out, a humanitarian wouldn't blow the shit out of people, he
should find a peaceful solution
usher
>Was it nice on that desert island?
You should see what designs can be done under a rock!
usher
Uncle Owen's ceiling for one.
pendell
>
> I am watching Star Wars: A New Hope (Special Edition) with my friends and my
> favorite scene is the one where Han Solo is confronted by Greedo in the
> cantina. I find it really cool the way Han is able to remain calm as Greedo
> shoots first and they Han coolly fires back with a shot of his own, felling
> him.
Why does this make Han Solo vile, or a jerk? I think it shows sound
tactical sense.
Think about it -- there's a guy sitting across from you, pointing a
gun at you, who's just told you "That's the idea. I've been looking
forward to this for a long time ..." -- leaving no doubt from context
that he's about to kill you with his gun.
You:
A. Let him take the first shot, and pray that he'll miss from a range
of FIVE FEET -- a range so short a wall-eyed baboon couldn't miss.
B. Recognize that he's going to shoot, so SHOOT FIRST. Granted
there's still a possibility he'll pull the trigger by reflex, but
you've a better chance of survival then if you just sit there saying
"take your best shot".
Second Law of Gunfighting -- he who shoots first usually wins.
So, IMO Solo made the correct call in the first movie, and detracts
neither from his character nor from his tactical ability. The SE
version makes him look like an idiot. Yeah, so Greedo missed -- but
that miss was so lucky it had to be director's intervention. Both the
miss and the second shot made the whole scene much less believable as
far as I was concerned.
Respectfully,
Brian P.
Muuurgh
-Muuurgh
"pendell" <pen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Adnan B.
>
> Hello,
>
> I am watching Star Wars: A New Hope (Special Edition) with my friends and my
> favorite scene is the one where Han Solo is confronted by Greedo in the
> cantina. I find it really cool the way Han is able to remain calm as Greedo
> shoots first and they Han coolly fires back with a shot of his own, felling
> him.
>
> younger 10 years ago with his brother and that he distinctly remembers Han
> shooting first after saying "I bet you have...". I highly doubt this as it
> completely makes Han Solo's character much worse. In fact, it makes him
> some kind of vile anti-hero.
>
> If this is the case (though I doubt this), I much prefer the Star Wars: A
> New Hope (Special Edition) version of this scene by the sounds of it. I am
> glad that George Lucas corrected this abomination as it has no place in a
> classic film series such as Star Wars. I think that anyone who would prefer
> the old scene is akin to someone who hates the brilliant character of Jar
> Jar Binks.
>
> However, I have seen the original "Empire Strikes Back" and I must say that
> ESB: SE is far superior.
For the most part yes. However, I hate the changes at the end of the
movie. The way they added the "shuttle going back to the SSD", how they
changed what Vader said and how the music changes so abruptly at times..
Those changes don't fit very well into the surrounding scenes.
> I especially enjoyed the part where Luke is
> screaming for his life in SE instead of falling silently in the original.
> The latter makes Luke look like a reactionary, right-wing blowhard (strong,
> silent type) while the former makes him seem more realistic, not afraid to
> express his fear and emotions.
>
> With the changes in the SE, I think they have made Star Wars more
> politically correct in order to prepare audiences for George Lucas's
> greatest masterpiece thus far, "The Phantom Menace". True Star Wars fans
> will agree that TPM far surpasses the original trilogy (ANH, ESB and ROTJ)
> although TPM is only slightly better than ROTJ.
I don't think anyone can prefer TPM to any of the original 3 movies.
ANH, ESB and ROTJ are so much better than TPM.
> However, some cynical
> so-called Star Wars fans have attacked this superior film and have abandoned
> the SW franchise. These are traitors to the vision of George Lucas.
A vision where star wars fans consist ONLY of 9-10 year olds? No way.
>
> I think that these so-called fans are what I would classify as "Han
> Solo/Boba Fett/Darth Maul" fans. These idiots prefer the darker side of
> Star Wars instead of its more positive and more politically correct side
> (Jar Jar Binks, Ewoks et al).
>
> Now to get a few things off of my chest. I'm sick and tired of you racist
> homophobes who don't like Jar Jar Binks. Star Wars is about poltical
> correctness, diverisity and multiculturalism, and if you got a problem with
> that: sod off you stupid wanker! You deserve to be branded and imprisoned
> because you are a hate speech criminal. Jar Jar haters are no better than
> the "forces of darkness" that the visionary Lucas has spoken out against.
Jar Jar sucks.
>
> I have a question for you Jar Jar haters: if everyone hates Jar Jar so much
> then how come TPM is the highest grossing Star Wars movie of all time? Can
> millions of true Star Wars fans be wrong?
Because of the hype, and because there are a lot of kids in this world.
>
> The truth is Jar Jar Binks and TPM make ANH and ESB look like shit, OK? Jar
> Jar is a much more interesting and more inclusive character than that
> mysoginist
How old are you? You must be part of the target market for TPM.
> Han Solo. His fans are typical male chauvinist anti-choice pigs who voted
> for the right-wing racist cowboy George Bush. If you don't like Jar Jar
> then you are not a true Star Wars fan. Racists like you deserve to be
> stripped of your civil rights. I believe in freedom of speech but hate
> speech like this should be banned and its practicioners should be imprisoned
> for life.
Go away troll. If you're not troll, you sure are a loser then!
Adnan B.
>
> VOTE DEMOCRAT IN 2002!
ObeeKris
> Second Law of Gunfighting -- he who shoots first usually wins.
What's the First Law of Gunfighting?
ObeeKris
res0ovau
-Knox-
Was gonna go with "Don't talk about gunfight", but I think that is a little
hackneyed at this point
"ObeeKris" <obee...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Nesha Kovalick
----------
In article <22f6e2db.0204...@posting.google.com>,
obee...@hotmail.com (ObeeKris) wrote:
Buy bullets.
>
> ObeeKris
Nesha
Or at least, charge up the lasers.
Bri'tr Wehil
It's just a fictional world.
"Adnan B." <be...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Brad Wardell
What color is the sky on your world?
>
storyt...@surfree.com
much -- the value of the dollar goes down.
"33" <thirt...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> It's, of course, ironic humor, I didn't bother to read it all, just the
> first Han paragraph, then I disregarded it. Pretty Brilliant stuff,
> actually.
>
>
> Philip Heppenstall wrote in message ...
> >
> >Tavington <tavi...@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
> >news:3cb4b6a4$1...@news.cybersurf.net...
> >>
> >> I have a question for you Jar Jar haters: if everyone hates Jar Jar so
> >much
> >> then how come TPM is the highest grossing Star Wars movie of all time?
> >Can
> >> millions of true Star Wars fans be wrong?
> >>
> >
> >Cinema tickets were cheaper in 1977, so if the same number of people went
> >then as now it would gross less money.
> >Do you see?
> >
> >
>
>
White Knight
> > He is doing all he can to secure
> > peace in this cesspool of a world that we live in. Bush is far from
being a
> > racist. He is a humanitarian!
> >
>
> By blowing the shit out of the people he doesn't like? Sounds like the
> easy way out, a humanitarian wouldn't blow the shit out of people, he
> should find a peaceful solution
will want him out (and I'd be one of them). The only good anti-American
terrorist is one with a bullet in his brain.
White Knight
True Star Wars fans
> > will agree that TPM far surpasses the original trilogy (ANH, ESB and
ROTJ)
> > although TPM is only slightly better than ROTJ.
>
> I don't think anyone can prefer TPM to any of the original 3 movies.
> ANH, ESB and ROTJ are so much better than TPM.
He's a troll all the way. I can't believe you can't see that. He's just
saying things to piss off SW fans. Look when he puts "only slightly better
than ROTJ." Every real SW fan puts ROTJ as the least of the three in the OT.
He also calls Jar-Jar brilliant. Bro, don't even reply to this complete
moron.
Knight's Realm
http://members.tripod.com/~knights_realm/
The Arctic Moose
me in a vision...
>
How nice
The Arctic Moose
me in a vision...
>
oh, every real starwars fan does do they, what give you authority to
state what every real star wars fan does and doesn't like? Also if we
shouldn't reply to that complete moron are you of the opinion we
shouldn't reply to you, who has also slotted themself nicely into the
niche of moronic?
Tucci
Michael Mierzwa
That is law #2.
[Reference: Indiana Jones and the Temple of Dome.]
Law #1: Shoot first (worry about the gun later).
:p
Michael
Michael Mierzwa
>
> > > He is a humanitarian!
> > >
> >
> > By blowing the shit out of the people he doesn't like? Sounds like the
> > easy way out, a humanitarian wouldn't blow the shit out of people, he
> > should find a peaceful solution
> He has no choice. If he doesn't blow the terrorists heads off, the people
> will want him out (and I'd be one of them). The only good anti-American
> terrorist is one with a bullet in his brain.
Political thread ... (why are the Jedi ghosts telling me to move along,
move along?)
Maybe we really need to practice a bit of "All I ever needed to know I
learned from Star Wars."
ESB :: Lando :: "I had no choice, they arrived before you did."
Right. Whatever. At least Lando tried to make things better. There is
a real-life leason there.
As for dealing with your bounty, it seems you can:
(1) Carbon Freeze,
(2) Disintergrate,
(3) Catch them in a net and barbeque them later ...
etc.
I'm a hell of a lot less certain that people don't have choices.
Michael
pendell
> obee...@hotmail.com (ObeeKris):
> >What's the First Law of Gunfighting?
>
> Remember to bring a gun.
The poster is correct -- the first rule of gunfighting is:
1. Bring a *gun* to a gunfight.
Corrollary: Do not bring a knife to a gunfight. Do not bring your
three black belts in Aikido, Karate, and Jujitsu to a gunfight. Do
not bring a piece of paper proclaiming "peace in our time" to a
gunfight. Bring -- a -- GUN!!
For those who are interested, there are a couple different Rules of
Gunfighting on the web, including
http://www.joeislove.com/article.asp?id=67 , which doesn't have MY
rule #2 but pretty good, nonetheless.
Respectfully,
Brian P.
Mark Ross
@news.optonline.net:
> y...@somewhere.intime (usher):
>>"Jade Lemonade" <jad...@my-deja.com> scrbbled this on the wall:
>>>It's malicious trolling.
>>Yet a well crafted troll. I almost started to contradict the original
>>message, but I forced myself to read the whole thing first.
>
> Exactly -- that's why I posted those "over your head" comments. This
> was FUNNY. It was meant to be ironic, but unfortunately, 99% of the
> people who read it started attacking the guy instead of appreciating
> how humorous the post was.
>
Well, Its a good way to get yourself KFed. Oh, & Look, you just have.
tata weirdo.
Robert Whelan
You sound like a terrorist.
Daniel O. Miller
> tu...@tucci.net (Tucci) wrote in message news:<3cb82ba4...@news.optonline.net>...
> > obee...@hotmail.com (ObeeKris):
> > >What's the First Law of Gunfighting?
> >
> > Remember to bring a gun.
>
> The poster is correct -- the first rule of gunfighting is:
>
> 1. Bring a *gun* to a gunfight.
>
> Corrollary: Do not bring a knife to a gunfight.
One of my favorite scenes in any classic Western is in El Dorado. Cole
(John Wayne) takes on as sidekick a kid named "Mississippi" (a young James
Caan). The kid carries knives, as he can't shoot to save his life. Cole
stops at a local gunsmith's shop and gets the kid a shotgun, with a
diabolical history and a stock and barrel so sawed off they almost aren't
there any more. Once Cole and Mississippi get out in the desert, they try
it out. The kid aims it at a cactus a few feet away and pulls the
trigger. The cactus is *obliterated*. The Duke grins and rides off
chortling, "Well ya can't miss with that!"
Daniel O. Miller
"Does this look familiar? Do you know what it is? Neither do I! I made
it last night in my sleep. Apparently I used gindrogac - highly unstable!
I put a button on it, yes? I wish to press it, but I'm not sure what will
happen if I do..." - Gune
C'Pi
"Daniel O. Miller" <dmil...@ridgenet.net> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.3.95.102041...@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us...
> On 13 Apr 2002, pendell wrote:
>
> > tu...@tucci.net (Tucci) wrote in message
news:<3cb82ba4...@news.optonline.net>...
> > > obee...@hotmail.com (ObeeKris):
> > > >What's the First Law of Gunfighting?
> > >
> > > Remember to bring a gun.
> >
> > The poster is correct -- the first rule of gunfighting is:
> >
> > 1. Bring a *gun* to a gunfight.
> >
> > Corrollary: Do not bring a knife to a gunfight.
>
> One of my favorite scenes in any classic Western is in El Dorado. Cole
> (John Wayne) takes on as sidekick a kid named "Mississippi" (a young James
> Caan). The kid carries knives, as he can't shoot to save his life. Cole
> stops at a local gunsmith's shop and gets the kid a shotgun, with a
> diabolical history and a stock and barrel so sawed off they almost aren't
> there any more. Once Cole and Mississippi get out in the desert, they try
> it out. The kid aims it at a cactus a few feet away and pulls the
> trigger. The cactus is *obliterated*. The Duke grins and rides off
> chortling, "Well ya can't miss with that!"
James Coburn - The Magnificent Seven.
That's all I'm going to say.
C'Pi
Adnan B.
>
> Sounds like Adnan needs to learn the ways of the force and lighten up a bit.
> It's just a fictional world.
What's this "force" you all keep talking about? ;-)
Adnan B.
Brett McConnie
> What's this "force" you all keep talking about? ;-)
Doritos.
--
"I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe."
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack Of The Clones, May 16th 2002
Bill Kohlleppel
> Whilst i was grazing on the tundra of the arctic, Bill Kohlleppel said
> to me in a vision...
> > He is doing all he can to secure
> > peace in this cesspool of a world that we live in. Bush is far from being a
> > racist. He is a humanitarian!
> >
>
> By blowing the shit out of the people he doesn't like? Sounds like the
> easy way out, a humanitarian wouldn't blow the shit out of people, he
> should find a peaceful solution
>
Well we were at war with the country that was giving him free sanctuary. The
fact that there is a new government in place in that country helps little in
finding the man responsible for the attack on this country. But then again this
new government is supporting our cause in blowing the shit out of the hills
where bin Laden is reported to be hiding out in. Of course they would, we are
ridding them of their enemies in the process. I would think that appealing to
the nations in requesting that they not support this man was a necessary and
peaceful step on his part. Those that chose not to adhere to our request
obviously drew sides in this conflict. They are now the enemy.
Rebel Alliance Lt. Commander Aramys Strael
Bill Kohlleppel
And I agree with you totally. The scene change was so unneeded.
Bill Kohlleppel
Here here! Cheers to the White Knight.
The Arctic Moose
to me in a vision...
You're both disgusting....
Darkfalz
> greatest masterpiece thus far, "The Phantom Menace". True Star Wars fans
Don't take drugs kids.
:-/
"Mark Ross" <Mark...@RemoveMeMoFo.Tombstones.Org.Uk> wrote in message
news:Xns91EFD21D1573Dma...@195.8.68.217...
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Rich, you just got kilfiled!! Too funny!
Paula
Red Falcon
"Tavington" <tavi...@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
news:3cb4b6a4$1...@news.cybersurf.net...
> Hello,
>
> I am watching Star Wars: A New Hope (Special Edition) with my friends and
my
> favorite scene is the one where Han Solo is confronted by Greedo in the
> cantina. I find it really cool the way Han is able to remain calm as
Greedo
> shoots first and they Han coolly fires back with a shot of his own,
felling
> him.
>
> One of my friends claims to have watched Star Wars: A New Hope when he was
> younger 10 years ago with his brother and that he distinctly remembers Han
> shooting first after saying "I bet you have...". I highly doubt this as
it
> completely makes Han Solo's character much worse. In fact, it makes him
> some kind of vile anti-hero.
>
> If this is the case (though I doubt this), I much prefer the Star Wars: A
> New Hope (Special Edition) version of this scene by the sounds of it. I
am
> glad that George Lucas corrected this abomination as it has no place in a
> classic film series such as Star Wars. I think that anyone who would
prefer
> the old scene is akin to someone who hates the brilliant character of Jar
> Jar Binks.
>
> However, I have seen the original "Empire Strikes Back" and I must say
that
> ESB: SE is far superior. I especially enjoyed the part where Luke is
> screaming for his life in SE instead of falling silently in the original.
> The latter makes Luke look like a reactionary, right-wing blowhard
(strong,
> silent type) while the former makes him seem more realistic, not afraid to
> express his fear and emotions.
>
> With the changes in the SE, I think they have made Star Wars more
> politically correct in order to prepare audiences for George Lucas's
> greatest masterpiece thus far, "The Phantom Menace". True Star Wars fans
> will agree that TPM far surpasses the original trilogy (ANH, ESB and ROTJ)
> although TPM is only slightly better than ROTJ. However, some cynical
> so-called Star Wars fans have attacked this superior film and have
abandoned
> the SW franchise. These are traitors to the vision of George Lucas.
>
> I think that these so-called fans are what I would classify as "Han
> Solo/Boba Fett/Darth Maul" fans. These idiots prefer the darker side of
> Star Wars instead of its more positive and more politically correct side
> (Jar Jar Binks, Ewoks et al).
>
> Now to get a few things off of my chest. I'm sick and tired of you racist
> homophobes who don't like Jar Jar Binks. Star Wars is about poltical
> correctness, diverisity and multiculturalism, and if you got a problem
with
> that: sod off you stupid wanker! You deserve to be branded and imprisoned
> because you are a hate speech criminal. Jar Jar haters are no better than
> the "forces of darkness" that the visionary Lucas has spoken out against.
>
> I have a question for you Jar Jar haters: if everyone hates Jar Jar so
much
> then how come TPM is the highest grossing Star Wars movie of all time?
Can
> millions of true Star Wars fans be wrong?
>
> The truth is Jar Jar Binks and TPM make ANH and ESB look like shit, OK?
Jar
> Jar is a much more interesting and more inclusive character than that
> mysoginist
> Han Solo. His fans are typical male chauvinist anti-choice pigs who voted
> for the right-wing racist cowboy George Bush. If you don't like Jar Jar
> then you are not a true Star Wars fan. Racists like you deserve to be
> stripped of your civil rights. I believe in freedom of speech but hate
> speech like this should be banned and its practicioners should be
imprisoned
> for life.
>
> VOTE DEMOCRAT IN 2002!
>
>
Phillip A. Kallas
> "Tavington" <tavi...@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
> news:3cb4b6a4$1...@news.cybersurf.net...
> > Hello,
> >
> Jar
> > Jar is a much more interesting and more inclusive character than that
> > mysoginist
> > Han Solo. His fans are typical male chauvinist anti-choice pigs who
voted
> > for the right-wing racist cowboy George Bush. If you don't like Jar Jar
> > then you are not a true Star Wars fan. Racists like you deserve to be
> > stripped of your civil rights. I believe in freedom of speech but hate
> > speech like this should be banned and its practicioners should be
> imprisoned
> > for life.
> >
> > VOTE DEMOCRAT IN 2002!
I wish I was this good.
--
Phillip A. Kallas, Usenet's Most Eligible Bachelor
"The world is a comedy to those that think,
a tragedy to those that feel." - Horace Walpole
Bill Kohlleppel
Well I do aim to please. But on a more serious note, perhaps your perception of the
situation would be different if it were your homeland that was attacked in this
manner. Just an observation.
Michael Mierzwa
Who said what???
I've lost track, and I'm guessing a few other people have too.
Bill Kohlleppel wrote:
>
> Well I do aim to please. But on a more serious note, perhaps your perception of the
> situation would be different if it were your homeland that was attacked in this
> manner. Just an observation.
Not directed to the above, but in general:
I find it interesting that a thread about Han shooting Greedo turns into
a discussion about humanitarians / bombing Afghanistan in response to
Sep. 11, 2001 / the U.S. President.
While I've found it interesting who on this list thinks humanitarians
bomb people (frightening too), there is a bit of difference between
shooting somebody with a gun pointed up your nostril -vs- say using the
Death Star to take out a planet 'cause you found a terrorist who lived
on that planet and who had stolen some secret plans.
In other words, I'd be curious to see those of you continuing this
debate to bring the topic back to a common ground (aka Star Wars).
Michael
- wrong tree :: {woof woof woof}
Phillip A. Kallas
"Michael Mierzwa" <mmie...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:3CB9FD93...@ix.netcom.com...
> {This is a perfect example of why snipping is good}
>
> Who said what???
>
> I've lost track, and I'm guessing a few other people have too.
>
> Bill Kohlleppel wrote:
> >
> > Well I do aim to please. But on a more serious note, perhaps your
perception of the
> > situation would be different if it were your homeland that was attacked
in this
> > manner. Just an observation.
>
>
> Not directed to the above, but in general:
>
> I find it interesting that a thread about Han shooting Greedo turns into
> a discussion about humanitarians / bombing Afghanistan in response to
> Sep. 11, 2001 / the U.S. President.
>
> While I've found it interesting who on this list thinks humanitarians
> bomb people (frightening too), there is a bit of difference between
> shooting somebody with a gun pointed up your nostril -vs- say using the
> Death Star to take out a planet 'cause you found a terrorist who lived
> on that planet and who had stolen some secret plans.
Holy crap on a stick, I live in The Empire? I've always had a hunch Bush Jr.
was very Palpatine like. Think about it.
>
> In other words, I'd be curious to see those of you continuing this
> debate to bring the topic back to a common ground (aka Star Wars).
I think Attack of the Clones is gonna Rokk.
Michael Mierzwa
>
> Holy crap on a stick, I live in The Empire? I've always had a hunch Bush Jr.
> was very Palpatine like. Think about it.
Republic.
Actually, if there is a bright center in the US, you're probably in the
state that is furtherest from it. :p
Naturally it follows that somebody like Lucas would keep revisiting the
same damn place over and over again, hence the celebration.
Michael
(Didn't expect that, did ya?)
Tucci
>> was FUNNY. It was meant to be ironic, but unfortunately, 99% of the
>> people who read it started attacking the guy instead of appreciating
>> how humorous the post was.
>Well, Its a good way to get yourself KFed. Oh, & Look, you just have.
>tata weirdo.
What the heck? Why would you killfile me? I didn't write the thing -
- I just said it was funny. (Not that I care if you killfile me, but
it seems a rather odd reaction to something as inoccuous as stating my
opinion that a post was funny.)
Tucci
>BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Rich, you just got kilfiled!! Too funny!
>Paula
Yeah, I actually find that pretty funny myself. And all I did was say
the other guy's post was funny -- imagine if I'd actually done
something worth getting killfiled over? :)
Rich
I feel proud now.
Phillip A. Kallas
> "Phillip A. Kallas" wrote:
> >
> > Holy crap on a stick, I live in The Empire? I've always had a hunch Bush
Jr.
> > was very Palpatine like. Think about it.
>
> Republic.
>
> Actually, if there is a bright center in the US, you're probably in the
> state that is furtherest from it. :p
Oh I don't know, I wake up every morning thankful that I don't live in
Alabama.
>
> Naturally it follows that somebody like Lucas would keep revisiting the
> same damn place over and over again, hence the celebration.
So Indianapolis is Mos Eisley? Well, I do know where to find some scum and
villianary in the Circle City...
>
> Michael
> (Didn't expect that, did ya?)
I have learned over the years to expect nothing. My face no longer grows
tired of looking shocked, so I've got that going for me.
--
Phillip A. Kallas, Usenet's Most Eligible Bachelor(Hessville would have made
a better Celebration location.)
C'Pi
Yeah, Michael. You tell em. Bunch of freaking jerks.
C'Pi
Bill Kohlleppel
> "Michael Mierzwa" <mmie...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:3CBA0CB2...@ix.netcom.com...
> > "Phillip A. Kallas" wrote:
> > >
> > > Holy crap on a stick, I live in The Empire? I've always had a hunch Bush
> Jr.
> > > was very Palpatine like. Think about it.
> >
> > Republic.
> >
> > Actually, if there is a bright center in the US, you're probably in the
> > state that is furtherest from it. :p
>
> Oh I don't know, I wake up every morning thankful that I don't live in
> Alabama.
> >
As well you should. It is hot as hell down there. I never seen grass so green
in my life, but damn it was hot!
>
> > Naturally it follows that somebody like Lucas would keep revisiting the
> > same damn place over and over again, hence the celebration.
>
> So Indianapolis is Mos Eisley? Well, I do know where to find some scum and
> villianary in the Circle City...
> >
> > Michael
> > (Didn't expect that, did ya?)
>
> I have learned over the years to expect nothing. My face no longer grows
> tired of looking shocked, so I've got that going for me.
>
> --
> Phillip A. Kallas, Usenet's Most Eligible Bachelor(Hessville would have made
> a better Celebration location.)
>
> "The world is a comedy to those that think,
> a tragedy to those that feel." - Horace Walpole
Rebel Alliance Lt. Commander Aramys Strael
Bill Kohlleppel
Who you calling a jerk, C'Pi? I wasn't the one who started this political
discussion, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let some douche` bag go off on
how bad a leader I have for a President in this country. He's doing a fine
job, considering all that he has to deal with. Imagine it were your country
that was attacked, I can guarantee you that you all would be whistling a
different tune!
C'Pi
"Bill Kohlleppel" <kohll...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3CBA7FA6...@attbi.com...
Dammit, I keep forgeting these things are cross-posted.
C'Pi
The Arctic Moose
Yes because the IRA didn't blow up parts of england, we all just fucking
imagined that, didn't we?
usher
>pen...@hotmail.com (pendell) wrote:
>> Second Law of Gunfighting -- he who shoots first usually wins.
>What's the First Law of Gunfighting?
Shoot straight.
usher
Rambling Old Cynical Jedi Engineer
http://www.shavenwookie.com/rassm/
http://melosh.tripod.com/
jill marie
usher <y...@somewhere.intime> wrote:
> obee...@hotmail.com (ObeeKris) scrbbled this on the wall:
>
> >pen...@hotmail.com (pendell) wrote:
> >> Second Law of Gunfighting -- he who shoots first
> >> usually wins.
>
> >What's the First Law of Gunfighting?
>
> Shoot straight.
I thought the first rule was Bring a Gun.
The second rule is to put a iron plate under your pancho and dare your
opponent to 'hit the heart'. ;-)
~~jill marie
Jade Lemonade
"Tucci" <tu...@tucci.net> wrote in message
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I'm going to killfile everyone on this thread just because I don't know who
to trust anymore.
Jade
--
*posts message to self.*
Jade Lemonade
"C'Pi" <jas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Daniel O. Miller" <dmil...@ridgenet.net> wrote in message
> news:Pine.SOL.3.95.102041...@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us...
> > On 13 Apr 2002, pendell wrote:
> >
> > > tu...@tucci.net (Tucci) wrote in message
> news:<3cb82ba4...@news.optonline.net>...
> > > > obee...@hotmail.com (ObeeKris):
> > > > >What's the First Law of Gunfighting?
> > > >
> > >
> > > The poster is correct -- the first rule of gunfighting is:
> > >
> > > 1. Bring a *gun* to a gunfight.
> > >
> > > Corrollary: Do not bring a knife to a gunfight.
> >
> > One of my favorite scenes in any classic Western is in El Dorado. Cole
> > (John Wayne) takes on as sidekick a kid named "Mississippi" (a young
James
> > Caan). The kid carries knives, as he can't shoot to save his life.
Cole
> > stops at a local gunsmith's shop and gets the kid a shotgun, with a
> > diabolical history and a stock and barrel so sawed off they almost
aren't
> > there any more. Once Cole and Mississippi get out in the desert, they
try
> > it out. The kid aims it at a cactus a few feet away and pulls the
> > trigger. The cactus is *obliterated*. The Duke grins and rides off
> > chortling, "Well ya can't miss with that!"
>
> James Coburn - The Magnificent Seven.
>
> That's all I'm going to say.
>
Dean Martin. Same movie Dan'l was talking about.
> C'Pi
Jade
--
He plays himself and that's all *I'm* going to say.
Daniel O. Miller
You're close. Look up Rio Bravo. Same movie, different actors except for
the Duke, and the kid is called Colorado. In El Dorado, the drunk sherrif
is played by Robert Mitchum.
> He plays himself and that's all *I'm* going to say.
Well, yesh.
Daniel O. Miller
"Does this look familiar? Do you know what it is? Neither do I! I made
it last night in my sleep. Apparently I used gindrogac - highly unstable!
I put a button on it, yes? I wish to press it, but I'm not sure what will
happen if I do..." - Gune
Bill Kohlleppel
I never claimed that you didn't. Then you know where the Americans are coming from. Did
you not seek justice against those who terrorized your country?
Bill Kohlleppel
Someone has paid attention to old Clint Eastwood westerns, haven't they?
Bill Kohlleppel
Weren't all Westerns basically the same old rehashed storyline?
Daniel O. Miller
Usually no, unless you would also argue "all Elizabethan tragedies have
the same old rehashed storyline" or something similar.
And *never* quite so obviously as that one case.
Jade Lemonade
Damn, you're right. Dean and Robert looked about the same in their old age.
And what is with the Duke digging up these green sidekicks named after
states?
> > > > He plays himself and that's all *I'm* going to say.
> > >
> > > Well, yesh.
> > >
> > > Daniel O. Miller
> > >
> > > "Does this look familiar? Do you know what it is? Neither do I! I
made
> > > it last night in my sleep. Apparently I used gindrogac - highly
unstable!
> > > I put a button on it, yes? I wish to press it, but I'm not sure what
will
> > > happen if I do..." - Gune
> >
> > Weren't all Westerns basically the same old rehashed storyline?
>
> Usually no, unless you would also argue "all Elizabethan tragedies have
> the same old rehashed storyline" or something similar.
>
> And *never* quite so obviously as that one case.
Unfortunately though, way too many of them rehashed the "stampede the cattle
at the bad guys trick". If I was a bad guy I would have been on the lookout
for that one.
Jade
--
Not a bad guy.
Mark Ross
@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:
Like its never happened to you either?
Zoinks, It just has!!
Tucci
>>BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Rich, you just got kilfiled!! Too funny!
>> Paula
>Like its never happened to you either?
>Zoinks, It just has!!
This guy's an idiot.