Slandering Takeuchi Naoko and her fans
r...@rgmondo.cjb.net
Sailormoon and accuses TAKEUCHI Naoko as a "pedophile," because she draw
young female characters "having breasts." This poster also accuses fans
of Sailormoon as being "pedophiles" because they loved Ms. Takeuchi's
"erotic" work. Me and other posters were very offended by what this
poster (a female) had said and we tried to refute these slanderous
claims to prove she is wrong. We realized quickly through her replies
how little does she know about Sailormoon and Ms. Takeuchi. If Ms.
Takeuchi is reading what that poster had said about her, that poster
would be sued for libel.
I had seen people on the Internet say the most libel things, but against
Ms. Takeuchi and us fans disturbs me. Ms. Takeuchi is a great manga
artist, but she is not a pedophile. Just because we like to read the
Sailormoon manga does not make us pedophiles. I hope that poster has the
brains to understand that.
-rgmondo
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Before you buy.
Ian Motter
r...@rgmondo.cjb.net wrote:
>
<snip>
>
> I had seen people on the Internet say the most libel things, but against
> Ms. Takeuchi and us fans disturbs me. Ms. Takeuchi is a great manga
> artist, but she is not a pedophile. Just because we like to read the
> Sailormoon manga does not make us pedophiles. I hope that poster has the
> brains to understand that.
Try not to let it get you upset. That's the only reason people like
that post those kinds of things anyways....
It's not like somebody will buy a couple hundred episodes just because the show
has cute girls in it anyways. Maybe you bought the first few, and one of the reasons
was because the girls are drawn nicely, but you wouldn't keep buying them just
for that reason.... besides, the show is so good that it's impossible not to
find new reasons every show to like it, ne?
> -rgmondo
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Chris Kern
following:
>Recently on an anime-related messageboard, there is a poster who dislike
>Sailormoon and accuses TAKEUCHI Naoko as a "pedophile," because she draw
>young female characters "having breasts." This poster also accuses fans
>of Sailormoon as being "pedophiles" because they loved Ms. Takeuchi's
>"erotic" work.
Naoko Takeuchi does enjoy drawing erotic (nude and half-clothed)
pictures of the senshi, especially Usagi. Anyone who tries to deny
this should look at several pictures from the Infinity Artbook (for
instance).
-Chris
790
"Ian Motter" <ia...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:39FD9A5A...@mindspring.com...
the first few episodes wern't nicely drawn. It was about the Black Moon
Saga where the animation got better, and even better in S. Classic and the
Ali / Ann series the girls were drawn really weirdly and looked very
unattractive. One thing was they were too wide.
790
"Chris Kern" <ke...@grinnell.edu> wrote in message
news:39fd9bd2...@enews.newsguy.com...
Seriously?! Thats funny, do you have em for download?
Ian Motter
The drawings from the Inifinty Artbook where Usagi is nude does not
mean that it's a picture of her at 14, nude.
And even if it was, that does not mean she's a pedophile for drawing it or
for her fans who like it.
Ian
Ian Motter
790 wrote:
>
> "Ian Motter" <ia...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:39FD9A5A...@mindspring.com...
> >
> >
> > r...@rgmondo.cjb.net wrote:
> > >
> > <snip>
> > >
> > > I had seen people on the Internet say the most libel things, but against
> > > Ms. Takeuchi and us fans disturbs me. Ms. Takeuchi is a great manga
> > > artist, but she is not a pedophile. Just because we like to read the
> > > Sailormoon manga does not make us pedophiles. I hope that poster has the
> > > brains to understand that.
> >
> > Try not to let it get you upset. That's the only reason people like
> > that post those kinds of things anyways....
> >
> > It's not like somebody will buy a couple hundred episodes just because the
> show
> > has cute girls in it anyways. Maybe you bought the first few, and one of
> the reasons
> > was because the girls are drawn nicely, but you wouldn't keep buying them
> just
> > for that reason.... besides, the show is so good that it's impossible not
> to
> > find new reasons every show to like it, ne?
> >
> > > -rgmondo
> > --
> the first few episodes wern't nicely drawn. It was about the Black Moon
> Saga where the animation got better, and even better in S. Classic and the
> Ali / Ann series the girls were drawn really weirdly and looked very
> unattractive. One thing was they were too wide.
"Nicely drawn" meant the character designs of the girls in the show.
Short skirts, and other "pretty" characteristics....
And when I said buying your first few episodes, it didn't necessarily mean
the first season, especially as how it's been a lot harder to find the first
two seasons fansubbed than the later ones anwyays....
Ian
Kisai
wrote:
Just to add my 2 cents... According to various countries laws,
anime/manga/comics/cartoons are considered artwork and it's legal to
draw characters of any aged clothed and unclothed. I think the basic
idea is that a drawing is not a real person.
The person who was making the accusations was probably not aware of
the laws, and was probably also misinformed about BSSM.
Had the english dub versions content never been tampered with, then
the anime would have been more educational since it promotes learning
about other countries cultures. (Ugh, I flinch everytime I hear
"girlfriend" in the new dub episodes)
I'm sure the person who made the accusations (like many who just to
conclusions) didn't put more than a few minutes worth of research
beforce letting their opinion be known. Likewise everything posted on
A.F.S.M is their opinion. Facts can be backed up with evidence,
opinions are just opinions.
IMO, anyone who thinks looking at a drawings are the same as looking
at real people needs a reality check.
--Kisai
(Kisai happened to discover the laws regarding animated/drawn
unclothed children when coming across a "Anime details that get edited
out in North America" page.)
790
I never said Naoko was. And BTW - I'm not a hentai person, infact I hate
the stuff, but when the author of the series does it you should at least
check it out.
Chris Kern
>The drawings from the Inifinty Artbook where Usagi is nude does not
>mean that it's a picture of her at 14, nude.
There is no reason to assume that Usagi is over 18 (or even 16) in
that picture. Given that 18 is the American age of consent, not the
Japanese one, I doubt that Takuechi deliberately aged characters for
her more erotic art.
-Chris
Chris Kern
the following:
>Seriously?! Thats funny, do you have em for download?
Here is a topless Amazon Trio:
http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/amazon2.jpg
Here are the infamous "topless Usagi" and "lingerie Usagi" pics:
http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/genga01.jpg
http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/genga02.jpg
Here's one from the manga:
http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/smbwpic1.jpg
Here's another manga one:
http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/smpic2.jpg
All nude (but not much shown. However, look at where Hotaru's hand
is.):
http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/takeuchi1.jpg
Swimsuits (cool pic):
http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/takeuchi2.jpg
Setsuna in a black teddy:
http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/w8.gif
And notice that it's not just the amount of skin shown, it's that the
characters often have sexually suggestive expressions on their faces,
or their poses are somewhat sexually suggestive.
-Chris
Royal Orange
<snip>
> Recently on an anime-related messageboard, there is a poster who dislike
> Sailormoon and accuses TAKEUCHI Naoko as a "pedophile," because she draw
> young female characters "having breasts." This poster also accuses fans
> of Sailormoon as being "pedophiles" because they loved Ms. Takeuchi's
> "erotic" work.
Sounds like a simple troll to me. Rule #1: Don't feed the trolls. If your
message board doesn't have a "killfile" system, ask whoever's in charge to
get one.
Zoe Tsukino
>
> Here is a topless Amazon Trio:
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/amazon2.jpg
Er... that is NOT the real picture. It has obviously been modified (you
can see where clothing lines have been erased). The REAL picture has
them in their regular outfits.
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Alex Taylor
> Here is a topless Amazon Trio:
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/amazon2.jpg
Um... I think you mean "Amazoness Quartet". SLIGHT difference. ^_^
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/smpic2.jpg
Bad URL. That should be "smpic2.gif", rather.
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/takeuchi1.jpg
and this should be "takeuchi.jpg".
> And notice that it's not just the amount of skin shown, it's that the
> characters often have sexually suggestive expressions on their faces,
> or their poses are somewhat sexually suggestive.
Aw, Naoko-chan's an ecchi-minded girl. We all know it. ^_-
--
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al...@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
Chris Kern
posted the following:
>Chris Kern wrote:
>>
>> Here is a topless Amazon Trio:
>> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/amazon2.jpg
>
>Er... that is NOT the real picture. It has obviously been modified (you
>can see where clothing lines have been erased). The REAL picture has
>them in their regular outfits.
You're right. That would also explain why Jun-Jun still has her top.
Gah, I feel stupid >_<
-Chris
Princess Serenity
>
>Er... that is NOT the real picture. It has obviously been modified (you
>can see where clothing lines have been erased). The REAL picture has
>them in their regular outfits.
>
>--
Gee..im glad im not the only one who noticed that ^_^
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Brent White
Alex Taylor wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:38:26, ke...@grinnell.edu (Chris Kern) wrote:
>
> > Here is a topless Amazon Trio:
> > http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/amazon2.jpg
>
> Um... I think you mean "Amazoness Quartet". SLIGHT difference. ^_^
>
>
> > http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/smpic2.jpg
>
> Bad URL. That should be "smpic2.gif", rather.
>
> > http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/takeuchi1.jpg
>
> and this should be "takeuchi.jpg".
>
No wonder the lower-right corner of this pic made the Darkness and Light (a
CU/Hotaru romance site--don't worry; most of it is with them more grown up)
site.
>
> > And notice that it's not just the amount of skin shown, it's that the
> > characters often have sexually suggestive expressions on their faces,
> > or their poses are somewhat sexually suggestive.
>
> Aw, Naoko-chan's an ecchi-minded girl. We all know it. ^_-
>
> --
> Alex Taylor BA - CIS - University of Guelph
> al...@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
Nonetheless, a lot of people stereotype SM fans and the creator of SM as
pedophiles. I'd say more than a few of us like the grown up women (or men,
as the case may be).
Don't let it ruin your enjoyment of the series.
Robert Hutchinson
> I had seen people on the Internet say the most libel things, but against
> Ms. Takeuchi and us fans disturbs me. Ms. Takeuchi is a great manga
> artist, but she is not a pedophile. Just because we like to read the
> Sailormoon manga does not make us pedophiles. I hope that poster has the
> brains to understand that.
That's nice. We sympathize.
Where was this thread going, again?
Robert Hutchinson
Ian Andreas Miller
Ian Motter <ia...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> The drawings from the Inifinty Artbook where Usagi is nude does not
> mean that it's a picture of her at 14, nude.
I really don't think Takeuchi had any age for Usagi in mind when she
drew that picture. The way I see it, Usagi represents agelessness.
--
==================================================
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"Hametsu to tanjo~ no senshi, Se~ra~ Sata~n."
"The soldier of ruin and birth, Sailor Saturn"
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==================================================
Ian Andreas Miller
ke...@grinnell.edu (Chris Kern) wrote:
> Here is a topless Amazon Trio:
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/amazon2.jpg
That Amazones Quartet image has been altered from its original.
> Here are the infamous "topless Usagi" and "lingerie Usagi" pics:
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/genga01.jpg
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/genga02.jpg
Those are not what she usually draws, but they're still cute.
> Here's one from the manga:
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/smbwpic1.jpg
Innocuous and elegant.
> Here's another manga one:
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/smpic2.jpg
Broken.
> All nude (but not much shown. However, look at where Hotaru's hand
> is.):
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/takeuchi1.jpg
Broken, but I know which one you're talking about.
> Swimsuits (cool pic):
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/takeuchi2.jpg
That one is cute. If anyone is offended by that image, he or she should
never bother to visit a beach in the summer.
I only wish that Takeuchi drew Hotaru, not Ami, in a string bikini.
> Setsuna in a black teddy:
> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/w8.gif
It's cute and playful. Perverted? Hardly.
> And notice that it's not just the amount of skin shown, it's that the
> characters often have sexually suggestive expressions on their faces,
> or their poses are somewhat sexually suggestive.
I'm sure that Takeuchi enjoys drawing that stuff. Personally, I don't
see anything wrong with these sorts of images. There is no malice and
there's no pornographic intent.
--
==================================================
Ian Andreas Miller -- Hotaru and Saturn lover.
"Hametsu to tanjo~ no senshi, Se~ra~ Sata~n."
"The soldier of ruin and birth, Sailor Saturn"
ICQ: 9968963 -- AIM: IanAMiller -- Hotaru is cute.
==================================================
Chris Kern
<anta...@csd.uwm.edu> posted the following:
>In article <39fde8a5...@enews.newsguy.com>,
> ke...@grinnell.edu (Chris Kern) wrote:
>
>> Here is a topless Amazon Trio:
>> http://www.math.grin.edu/~kern/images/amazon2.jpg
>
>That Amazones Quartet image has been altered from its original.
Yes, yes, I feel stupid about not noticing that >_<
>I'm sure that Takeuchi enjoys drawing that stuff.
That was my point.
>Personally, I don't
>see anything wrong with these sorts of images.
Neither do I, they're her characters. Usually people say things like
"Takeuchi would never want her characters drawn nude!" and this is my
answer to that ^_^
-Chris
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Robert Hutchinson
> Robert Hutchinson wrote:
> >r...@rgmondo.cjb.net wrote:
> >
> >> I had seen people on the Internet say the most libel things, but against
> >> Ms. Takeuchi and us fans disturbs me. Ms. Takeuchi is a great manga
> >> artist, but she is not a pedophile. Just because we like to read the
> >> Sailormoon manga does not make us pedophiles. I hope that poster has the
> >> brains to understand that.
> >
> >That's nice. We sympathize.
> >
> >Where was this thread going, again?
>
Close, but rg is our favorite pollster. What are the feminist themes in
Sailor Moon, a call to vote for censure of SOS, etc., etc.
Robert Hutchinson
David Damerell
>No wonder the lower-right corner of this pic made the Darkness and Light (a
>CU/Hotaru romance site--don't worry; most of it is with them more grown up)
But, my God, it's Chibi-Usa! The horror!
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I'd probably get mad if somebody called me "Serena" as well, though
I think in my case it might have something to do with me being male.
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Royal Orange
Uhh, pardon? Did I miss something?
Chris Kern
the following:
>In case you haven't realized, this is USENET, not some website
>operated message board. You can't censor Usenet.
>(Now, the Death Penalty... sends cancel messages to prevent that
>entire ISP from posting to usenet.)
>
>--Kisai
>(I so hate it when people confuse Usenet for some cheap message board
>system.)
The post in question was from a message board, and the OP to this
thread was showing it as a bad example of a post on said message
board.
-Chris
Ian Andreas Miller
r...@rgmondo.cjb.net wrote:
> Ms. Takeuchi is a great manga artist, but she is not a pedophile.
On a related note, she's an exceedingly intelligent woman. Fans tend to
not give her enough credit in the brains department. Some of her names
and themes are so erudite that some fans have dismissed them as being
worthless nonsense. The fact is that she knows what she's doing.
--
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"Hametsu to tanjo~ no senshi, Se~ra~ Sata~n."
"The soldier of ruin and birth, Sailor Saturn"
ICQ: 9968963 -- AIM: IanAMiller -- Hotaru is cute.
==================================================
Chris Kern
<anta...@csd.uwm.edu> posted the following:
>In article <8tk3nu$jsa$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> r...@rgmondo.cjb.net wrote:
>
>> Ms. Takeuchi is a great manga artist, but she is not a pedophile.
>
>On a related note, she's an exceedingly intelligent woman. Fans tend to
>not give her enough credit in the brains department. Some of her names
>and themes are so erudite that some fans have dismissed them as being
>worthless nonsense. The fact is that she knows what she's doing.
On a related note, in Fredrick Shodt's book "Dreamland Japan", he has
a section on Nakayoshi. There he says that the plot of Sailor Moon
was determined in editorial meetings (of the magazine staff,
presumably), in advance. Is there any truth to this at all? I've
heard that editor meddling is pretty common in manga.
-Chris
David Damerell
><ruby...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>><r...@rgmondo.cjb.net> wrote:
>>>Recently on an anime-related messageboard, there is a poster who dislike
>>message board doesn't have a "killfile" system, ask whoever's in charge to
>>get one.
>In case you haven't realized, this is USENET, not some website
>operated message board. You can't censor Usenet.
However, the original post was about a message board. Try reading before
criticising.
[Also, you may not be able to censor Usenet, but you _can_ killfile the
hell out of it.]
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Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword
<snip>
> The drawings from the Inifinty Artbook where Usagi is nude does not
> mean that it's a picture of her at 14, nude.
How would you know? It's absolutely *irrelevant* if she's 14 there or 16 (as of
end of Stars).
> And even if it was, that does not mean she's a pedophile for drawing it or
> for her fans who like it.
Yes, that's absolutely right.
> Ian
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<snip>
> Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
> PR = Puerto Rico
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Military addresses are generally ending in .mil
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Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword
> >Close, but rg is our favorite pollster. What are the feminist themes in
> >Sailor Moon, a call to vote for censure of SOS, etc., etc.
>
> Ah. Vunderbar... >_<
"Wunderbar", with a W. (wonderful)
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sword" <Minak...@gmx.li> wrote:
>> The drawings from the Inifinty Artbook where Usagi is nude does not
>> mean that it's a picture of her at 14, nude.
>
>How would you know? It's absolutely *irrelevant* if she's 14 there or 16 (as of
>end of Stars).
I can't remember if this was the fully nude or lingerie picture, but in
one of them she's wearing a wedding ring. That means she's older than she
ever is in the anime series, and at least as old as she is at the end of
the manga. (I wonder what Mamoru thinks of those pictures....)
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On 1-Nov-2000, "Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword"
<Minak...@is-really-hot-gmx.li> wrote:
> "Glen A. Pearce" <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>
> <snip>
>
> > Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
> > PR = Puerto Rico
> > AE = Military addresses
>
> Military addresses are generally ending in .mil
Postal address, Tenchi, not URL. (Although, last I checked, it's APO,
not AE....)
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Glen A. Pearce
"Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword" <Minak...@gmx.li> wrote:
> "John F. Martin" <FurrySai...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> >
> > >Close, but rg is our favorite pollster. What are the feminist
themes in
> > >Sailor Moon, a call to vote for censure of SOS, etc., etc.
> >
> > Ah. Vunderbar... >_<
>
> "Wunderbar", with a W. (wonderful)
Maybe he was just trying to avoid confusion with the Chocolate bar
named Wunderbar. ^_^
--
Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
PR = Puerto Rico
AE = Military addresses
DR = Drunken (You weren't expecting a serious sig. were you? ^_-)
Glen A. Pearce
has taken on a different meaning in the U.S. ^_-
In article <3t3M5.454$375....@e420r-sjo3.usenetserver.com>,
Arturu...@wowmail.com wrote:
>
> On 1-Nov-2000, "Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword"
> <Minak...@is-really-hot-gmx.li> wrote:
>
> > "Glen A. Pearce" <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
> > > PR = Puerto Rico
> > > AE = Military addresses
> >
> > Military addresses are generally ending in .mil
>
> Postal address, Tenchi, not URL. (Although, last I checked,
> it's APO, not AE....)
You're right, I did mean postal addresses. I guess if he doesn't
mail stuff into the U.S. like I do (and boy do I _ever_ mail into
the U.S. ^_-) it might not click. As for the APO part to explain
here's what an American military address looks like:
A1C Dowler, Andrew
PSC 37 Box #3472
APO AE
09459
So both the APO and the AE appear in there, the AE is in the place
where the state code would usually go. There are also FPO military
addresses but they still fall under the "state" abbreviation of AE.
I think the differentiation between APO and FPO are which forwarding
center it goes thru. AE addresses are only for servicemen stationed
overseas, addresses at domestic bases look more like regular addresses
since there's no need to go thru a forwarding center.
U.S. state abbriviations are always 2 letters, some examples are:
ND = North Dakota
FL = Florida
WA = Washington
CA = California
MD = Maryland
Canada used to have 3 letter abbreviations for each province but
has since changed to the 2 letter abbreviations to standardize
with the U.S. Some examples are:
Man. (now MB) = Manitoba
Que. (now PQ) = Quebec
Ont. (now ON) = Ontario
Sometimes these same abbreviations are also used in internet
addresses, this is probably what threw Tenchi off and made him
think I was talking about internet addresses. Names with the
geographic hiararchy are more common in Canada than the U.S.
though. American's perfer using domain names ending in ".com",
".org", and ".net" over ".us". One person told me there were
only 4 names registered ending in ".nd.us". Here in Canada
there has until recently been a small incentive towards the
geographic domain names. At one point in the past ".ca" names
were free (they no longer are) and the Canadian registrar limited
names without the provincial part to organizations that were
federally registered so names ending in ".mb.ca" or ".on.ca"
have become more common than in the U.S. where there wasn't an
advantage like that.
Since it wouldn't be a physical state ".ae.us" wouldn't be reserved
for use. (At least I think it wouldn't be. ^_-) Hmmm? Since ae
isn't reserved I suppose someone could register that as a domain name
if they met the criteria for a ".us" name. ^_^ I'm not sure who
would want a site name like www.ae.us though unless it was targeted
at U.S. servicemen as site visitors.
BTW, Andrew (the guy that runs Negavision ^_-) no longer uses that
address so I'm not compromising any personal info by using it as an
example. (So people that get tapes from me don't have to worry about
your address being posted on the net, unless of course you send a
bad check. ^_-) That box is now likely used by somebody else. If
you are wondering what "A1C" means it means "Airman 1st Class" which
is the rank that Andrew held when he was stationed in England.
--
Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
PR = Puerto Rico
AE = Military addresses
DR = Drunken (You weren't expecting a serious sig. were you? ^_-)
John F. Martin
Pearce <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
>In article <8tppke$q7s$1...@riker.addcom.de>,
> "Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword" <Minak...@gmx.li> wrote:
>> "John F. Martin" <FurrySai...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> >
>> > >Close, but rg is our favorite pollster. What are the feminist
>themes in
>> > >Sailor Moon, a call to vote for censure of SOS, etc., etc.
>> >
>> > Ah. Vunderbar... >_<
>>
>> "Wunderbar", with a W. (wonderful)
>
>Maybe he was just trying to avoid confusion with the Chocolate bar
>named Wunderbar. ^_^
Actually, just doing my phoenic best. ^^;;
--"Oh...oh...Jupiter..."
--John F. Martin
--FurrySaint at hotmail dot com
"But we're noooode!" -- Minako ("Snow Day" by Robyn, Duke of Amber)
Arc Impulse! My Makoto/Ami page!: http://www.shoujoai.com/~arcimpulse/
JonLke
>>> mean that it's a picture of her at 14, nude.
To quote an expert,"It's not nudity, it's Magic".
JonLke
David Damerell
It's amusing how users of Windows newsreaders think the things they can do
are ever so impressive, when in fact that's a tiny fraction of what's
possible with a real newsreader.
--
David/Kirsty Damerell. dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk
CUWoCS President. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/ Hail Eris!
|___| I was wrong. I was wrong to ever doubt. I can get along without. |___|
| | | I can love my fellow man. But I'm damned if I'll love yours.[AE] | | |
Chris Kern
<dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> posted the following:
>Jerry Shaw <jns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>David Damerell <dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>>>[Also, you may not be able to censor Usenet, but you _can_ killfile the
>>>hell out of it.]
>>Agent has the capability to even do a reverse kill-file. I can allow through
>>certain posters and other messages matching a bunch of different patterns, and
>>delete the rest automatically.
>
>It's amusing how users of Windows newsreaders think the things they can do
>are ever so impressive, when in fact that's a tiny fraction of what's
>possible with a real newsreader.
It's also amusing how users of Linux (presumably) automatically assume
that all Linux programs are superior to all Windows programs, even
when they clearly have no experience with the said Windows program.
-Chris
David Damerell
You must have rather limited reading comprehension; I never claimed that
all Linux programs are superior to all Windows programs; there are plenty
of crap newsreaders for Linux systems, too. In fact, I didn't say anything
about Linux; I was using the 'trn' newsreader on Sun systems when Linux's
user base was about 100 people (and 'trn' still runs on most UNIXen); and
Gnus, which is probably the most powerful newsreader in existence, even
runs on Win32 systems, although it comes from a UNIX background.
Also, I do, in fact, have enough experience with Agent to know that its
killfiling facilities are laughably primitive next to those of Gnus.
marv...@hotmial.com
: On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:22:47 GMT, r...@rgmondo.cjb.net posted the
: following:
:>Recently on an anime-related messageboard, there is a poster who dislike
:>Sailormoon and accuses TAKEUCHI Naoko as a "pedophile," because she draw
:>young female characters "having breasts." This poster also accuses fans
:>of Sailormoon as being "pedophiles" because they loved Ms. Takeuchi's
:>"erotic" work.
: Naoko Takeuchi does enjoy drawing erotic (nude and half-clothed)
: pictures of the senshi, especially Usagi. Anyone who tries to deny
: this should look at several pictures from the Infinity Artbook (for
: instance).
well she also seems to be interested in leather and bondage attires as
well. just look at Starlights, Lead Crow and Tin Nyanko ^^;; but no one
who has been expose dto the series can say the story is not
interesting. besides she draws these erotic poses probably to highlight
the beauty of the senshi. one can appreciate beauty without being
obsessed.
Chris Kern
I still stand by the point of my sarcasm, that your jab at Jerry was
pointless and totally uncalled for, as he wasn't claiming that Agent
was superior to trn, and he wasn't claiming that the reverse kill-file
was a feature that only Agent had.
-Chris
Meech
I find it amusing that whenever I'm peeking through this NG, whenever
I'm privy to a Damerall post, it's almost always a pointless and totally
uncalled for jab at an individual undeserving of his "wit". It must be a
knee-jerk reaction of his.
Meech the Brown Hornet
John F. Martin
Martin <FurrySai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 05:13:29 GMT,'Puter-chan told John that Glen A.
>Pearce <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
>
>>In article <8tppke$q7s$1...@riker.addcom.de>,
>> "Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword" <Minak...@gmx.li> wrote:
>>> "John F. Martin" <FurrySai...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>> >
>>> > >Close, but rg is our favorite pollster. What are the feminist
>>themes in
>>> > >Sailor Moon, a call to vote for censure of SOS, etc., etc.
>>> >
>>> > Ah. Vunderbar... >_<
>>>
>>> "Wunderbar", with a W. (wonderful)
>>
>>Maybe he was just trying to avoid confusion with the Chocolate bar
>>named Wunderbar. ^_^
>
>Actually, just doing my phoenic best. ^^;;
*Phonetic*. >_< It was late...
Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword
> has taken on a different meaning in the U.S. ^_-
Heh ^__^
I always wondered where that came from...
Anyway, if it was connected with our (German) Post, it would probably mean
"taking a nap" or something like that ^_^;;
"Remember, always write your postal code on the letter, or it makes Pete angry.
VERY angry."
Heh ^_^ Stuff like that would be impossible over here.
> Arturu...@wowmail.com wrote:
> >
> > On 1-Nov-2000, "Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword"
> > <Minak...@is-really-hot-gmx.li> wrote:
> >
> > > "Glen A. Pearce" <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
> > > > PR = Puerto Rico
> > > > AE = Military addresses
> > >
> > > Military addresses are generally ending in .mil
> >
> > Postal address, Tenchi, not URL. (Although, last I checked,
> > it's APO, not AE....)
>
> You're right, I did mean postal addresses. I guess if he doesn't
> mail stuff into the U.S. like I do (and boy do I _ever_ mail into
> the U.S. ^_-) it might not click. As for the APO part to explain
> here's what an American military address looks like:
Indeed - I never sent anything to the US (never had a need for that), so I
wouldn't know...
> A1C Dowler, Andrew
> PSC 37 Box #3472
> APO AE
> 09459
>
> So both the APO and the AE appear in there, the AE is in the place
> where the state code would usually go. There are also FPO military
> addresses but they still fall under the "state" abbreviation of AE.
> I think the differentiation between APO and FPO are which forwarding
> center it goes thru. AE addresses are only for servicemen stationed
> overseas, addresses at domestic bases look more like regular addresses
> since there's no need to go thru a forwarding center.
>
> U.S. state abbriviations are always 2 letters, some examples are:
*ahem* abbrEviations (comes from the latin "brevis" = short)
> ND = North Dakota
> FL = Florida
> WA = Washington
> CA = California
> MD = Maryland
>
> Canada used to have 3 letter abbreviations for each province but
> has since changed to the 2 letter abbreviations to standardize
> with the U.S. Some examples are:
>
> Man. (now MB) = Manitoba
> Que. (now PQ) = Quebec
> Ont. (now ON) = Ontario
>
> Sometimes these same abbreviations are also used in internet
> addresses, this is probably what threw Tenchi off and made him
> think I was talking about internet addresses.
Yes, that's it.
> Names with the
> geographic hiararchy are more common in Canada than the U.S.
> though. American's perfer using domain names ending in ".com",
> ".org", and ".net" over ".us". One person told me there were
> only 4 names registered ending in ".nd.us".
So, there actually *are* domain names ending in .us? I've never ever seen any...
<snip>
> --
> Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
Perhaps you should say that those are postal codes? After all, I'm not the only
non-American here.
> PR = Puerto Rico
> AE = Military addresses
> DR = Drunken (You weren't expecting a serious sig. were you? ^_-)
--
Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword
> > "John F. Martin" <FurrySai...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > >
> > > >Close, but rg is our favorite pollster. What are the feminist
> themes in
> > > >Sailor Moon, a call to vote for censure of SOS, etc., etc.
> > >
> > > Ah. Vunderbar... >_<
> >
> > "Wunderbar", with a W. (wonderful)
>
> Maybe he was just trying to avoid confusion with the Chocolate bar
> named Wunderbar. ^_^
There's a chocolate bar named "Wunderbar"? *rofl*
Really funny, those Americans ^_^ I suppose it's meant to be a cheap pun as
well.
> --
> Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
> PR = Puerto Rico
> AE = Military addresses
> DR = Drunken (You weren't expecting a serious sig. were you? ^_-)
--
Senshi So Sugoi
"Glen A. Pearce" <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote in message
news:8tqsss$arc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> I avoided the term "going postal" in the subject line as that phrase
> has taken on a different meaning in the U.S. ^_-
>
Bizkit's "Break Stuff". Pretty violent...
Glen A. Pearce
"Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword" <Minak...@gmx.li> wrote:
> "Glen A. Pearce" <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > > Postal address, Tenchi, not URL. (Although, last I checked,
> > > it's APO, not AE....)
> >
> > You're right, I did mean postal addresses. I guess if he doesn't
> > mail stuff into the U.S. like I do (and boy do I _ever_ mail into
> > the U.S. ^_-) it might not click. As for the APO part to explain
> > here's what an American military address looks like:
>
> Indeed - I never sent anything to the US (never had a need for
> that), so I wouldn't know...
Being a fansub distro causes me to do much mailing and about 85%-90%
of my packages go to the U.S., Canada is the #2 country I ship to. ^_^
(For those who are curious Australia is #3, Sweden is #4, Germany is
#5, and the U.K. is #6 though it might be _slightly_ ahead of Germany
if I include U.S. military personel stationed in the U.K. Those
Airforce guys have to have their Sailor Moon. ^_-)
Also before that I did mail order a lot of products from the U.S.
that couldn't be found in Canada, though AE wasn't really applicable
to that since technically the APO and FPO boxes aren't supposed to
be used for bussiness so a U.S. serviceman stationed overseas
couldn't run a mail order bussiness out of it. (At least not
without getting in a _lot_ of trouble. ^_-)
I think that my experience being on the receiving end of mail order
has helped a lot now that I'm on the shipping end. ^_^
> > U.S. state abbriviations are always 2 letters, some examples are:
>
> *ahem* abbrEviations (comes from the latin "brevis" = short)
Whoops! Typo! ^_^
> > Names with the
> > geographic hiararchy are more common in Canada than the U.S.
> > though. American's perfer using domain names ending in ".com",
> > ".org", and ".net" over ".us". One person told me there were
> > only 4 names registered ending in ".nd.us".
>
> So, there actually *are* domain names ending in .us? I've never
> ever seen any...
Well, there are but they aren't popular because Americans think that
".com" sounds cooler or something. ^_^ As well it would cost the same
either way so there was no price factor to counter the coolness factor.
> > Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
>
> Perhaps you should say that those are postal codes?
I wanted to stay away from that as "postal code" refers to the
numeric or alphanumeric code that only the post office knows how
to deciper. (My own being "R2L 0Y0" at least for my P.O. box. ^_^)
> After all, I'm not the only non-American here.
I'm not American either though. ^_- I guess living only 65 miles
(apx. 100 kilometers) from the U.S. has sorta increased the amount
I know about their country. (And contributed to my knowing _both_
imperial and metric measurements. ^_-)
I think this explains it for everyone that didn't know though. ^_^
--
Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
PR = Puerto Rico
AE = Military addresses
DR = Drunken (You weren't expecting a serious sig. were you? ^_-)
Glen A. Pearce
"Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword" <Minak...@gmx.li> wrote:
> "Glen A. Pearce" <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > "Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword" <Minak...@gmx.li> wrote:
> > > "John F. Martin" <FurrySai...@hotmail.com> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag
> > > >
> > > > >Close, but rg is our favorite pollster. What are the feminist
> > themes in
> > > > >Sailor Moon, a call to vote for censure of SOS, etc., etc.
> > > >
> > > > Ah. Vunderbar... >_<
> > >
> > > "Wunderbar", with a W. (wonderful)
> >
> > Maybe he was just trying to avoid confusion with the Chocolate bar
> > named Wunderbar. ^_^
>
> There's a chocolate bar named "Wunderbar"? *rofl*
Yep! I'm not sure if it's sold in the U.S. as I've never really
looked for it down there but I do know it's sold in Canada. ^_^
> Really funny, those Americans ^_^ I suppose it's meant to be a
> cheap pun as well.
Yep! Hmmm? This sounds like a potential novelty item. Does anyone
overseas want to buy a Canadian chocolate bar? ^_^ If there is any
interest I'll check into what it'll cost with shipping. ^_^ (If
someone wants it shipped with tapes I won't even need to add shipping
cost. ^_-)
--
Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
PR = Puerto Rico
AE = Military addresses
DR = Drunken (You weren't expecting a serious sig. were you? ^_-)
Glen A. Pearce
Glen A. Pearce <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
> --
> Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
> PR = Puerto Rico
Funny thing, a lot of American don't know that Puerto Rico is part
of the U.S. It's technically not a state but it's an "insular
possesion" so it's served by the U.S. Postal Service has a state
code ans ZIP codes. There has been an ongoing debate on whether
to officialy make it a state which would be a good thing for
bussiness reasons (and people would know that it was actually part
of the U.S. finnally ^_-) but it keeps dragging out.
James L. Pierce
For example mississippi is state.ms.us
But you get the idea :)
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Peregrine
Glen A. Pearce <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
> In article <8u5ick$ikd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Glen A. Pearce <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
>
> > --
> > Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
> > PR = Puerto Rico
>
> Funny thing, a lot of American don't know that Puerto Rico is part
> of the U.S. It's technically not a state but it's an "insular
> possesion" so it's served by the U.S. Postal Service has a state
> code ans ZIP codes. There has been an ongoing debate on whether
> to officialy make it a state which would be a good thing for
> bussiness reasons (and people would know that it was actually part
> of the U.S. finnally ^_-) but it keeps dragging out.
>
I thought it was officially a commonwealth, but I could be wrong.
Funny thing about Puerto Rico... Nobody here wants it to be a state
(except maybe in Washington DC) and nobody there wants it to be state,
so I have a feeling it'll keep it's current status for a while.
I mean, 50 is such a nice, round number... It'd screw up the flag! ^_-
As far a I know, it also gets too many benefits to want to be
independent...
--
Peregrine, who knew he'd wind up in this thread eventually...
Vehemently opposed to a Stars dub.
Ami-sama no okkake (and a Trepie, too!)
"Do you ever have any good sex dreams?" "My fish dream is a sex dream."
Miles Rost
Then you got the City codes that can be very funky, such as:
PDX - Portland, Oregon
MSP - Minnespolis/St. Paul
JAX - Jacksonville, Florida
NYC - New York City
and my personal favorite
BFE - Mitchell, South Dakota.
--
Miles Rost
Senshi of Honor Entertainment
Also, New Owner of "The Otakuwars! Writer's Guide Archive"
http://therost.otakuwars.org/warsoppg.htm
Miles Rost
>
> In article <8u5j36$j33$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Glen A. Pearce <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
> > In article <8u5ick$ikd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > Glen A. Pearce <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > --
> > > Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
> > > PR = Puerto Rico
> >
> > Funny thing, a lot of American don't know that Puerto Rico is part
> > of the U.S. It's technically not a state but it's an "insular
> > possesion" so it's served by the U.S. Postal Service has a state
> > code ans ZIP codes. There has been an ongoing debate on whether
> > to officialy make it a state which would be a good thing for
> > bussiness reasons (and people would know that it was actually part
> > of the U.S. finnally ^_-) but it keeps dragging out.
> >
>
> Funny thing about Puerto Rico... Nobody here wants it to be a state
> (except maybe in Washington DC) and nobody there wants it to be state,
> so I have a feeling it'll keep it's current status for a while.
> I mean, 50 is such a nice, round number... It'd screw up the flag! ^_-
> As far a I know, it also gets too many benefits to want to be
> independent...
Eh, we still got Guam and American Samoa to deal with. ^_^
Puerto Rico is just a drop in the bucket.
Neolexor
: "Glen A. Pearce" <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
: > "Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword" <Minak...@gmx.li> wrote:
: > > "John F. Martin" <FurrySai...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
: > > >
: > > > >Close, but rg is our favorite pollster. What are the feminist
: > > > >themes in Sailor Moon, a call to vote for censure of SOS, etc., etc.
: > > >
: > > > Ah. Vunderbar... >_<
: > >
: > > "Wunderbar", with a W. (wonderful)
: >
: > Maybe he was just trying to avoid confusion with the Chocolate bar
: > named Wunderbar. ^_^
:
: There's a chocolate bar named "Wunderbar"? *rofl*
: Really funny, those Americans ^_^ I suppose it's meant to be a cheap pun
: as well.
Hmm... I've never seen it but I guess it may be one of these
"health-bars" in which case while the pun maybe cheap but the bar probably
isn't... ^_^ Where do they sell this stuff anyway?
nexor (vaguely remembering liking BarNone ;)
-- Densetsu wa densetsu da... jijitsu de wa nai... -------------
Farix
> > Glen A. Pearce <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
> > > In article <8u5ick$ikd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > > Glen A. Pearce <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > --
> > > > Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
> > > > PR = Puerto Rico
> > >
> > > Funny thing, a lot of American don't know that Puerto Rico is part
> > > of the U.S. It's technically not a state but it's an "insular
> > > possesion" so it's served by the U.S. Postal Service has a state
> > > code ans ZIP codes. There has been an ongoing debate on whether
> > > to officialy make it a state which would be a good thing for
> > > bussiness reasons (and people would know that it was actually part
> > > of the U.S. finnally ^_-) but it keeps dragging out.
> > >
> >
> > Funny thing about Puerto Rico... Nobody here wants it to be a state
> > (except maybe in Washington DC) and nobody there wants it to be
state,
> > so I have a feeling it'll keep it's current status for a while.
> > I mean, 50 is such a nice, round number... It'd screw up the flag!
^_-
> > As far a I know, it also gets too many benefits to want to be
> > independent...
>
> Eh, we still got Guam and American Samoa to deal with. ^_^
>
> Puerto Rico is just a drop in the bucket.
Guam and American Samoa have territorial statues. Puerto Rico, on the
other hand, is neither a state nor a territory but something in between
with a little bit of independent nation thrown in for good measure. O_o
Speaking of US territories, isn’t part of the Virgin Islands included
as part of US territories?
Farix
--
"Under the Republican tax plan, the rich get a benefit, and I get a
benefit. Under the Democratic tax plan, the rich don't get a benefit,
and I don't get a benefit. Now who do you think I'm going to vote
for?" -- from the Charleston Daily Mail Vent Line
Claris of Mira
> : There's a chocolate bar named "Wunderbar"? *rofl*
> : Really funny, those Americans ^_^ I suppose it's meant to be a cheap pun
> : as well.
> :
> Hmm... I've never seen it but I guess it may be one of these
> "health-bars" in which case while the pun maybe cheap but the bar probably
> isn't... ^_^ Where do they sell this stuff anyway?
>
> nexor (vaguely remembering liking BarNone ;)
>
Healthy -- anything but. ^_^ It's canadian and it's got caramel and peanut
butter covered in chocolate.. ::drools::
~Claris who now needs to drag her kareshi back to Canada to buy more
oishii Wunderbars and Crunchie Bars (Ichiban Suki... ;_;)
Jerry Shaw
>In article <8tvtgg$ppk$3...@riker.addcom.de>,
> "Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword" <Minak...@gmx.li> wrote:
>> "Glen A. Pearce" <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> > "Tenchi wielding the Illumina sword" <Minak...@gmx.li> wrote:
>> > > "Wunderbar", with a W. (wonderful)
>> >
>> > Maybe he was just trying to avoid confusion with the Chocolate bar
>> > named Wunderbar. ^_^
>>
>> There's a chocolate bar named "Wunderbar"? *rofl*
>
>Yep! I'm not sure if it's sold in the U.S. as I've never really
>looked for it down there but I do know it's sold in Canada. ^_^
Yes, it's here. I've seen ads for it on TV.
Jerry
Arturus Magi
I knew there was another one, I just couldn't think of it....
<recommits FPO to memory>
> center it goes thru. AE addresses are only for servicemen stationed
> overseas, addresses at domestic bases look more like regular addresses
> since there's no need to go thru a forwarding center.
>
> U.S. state abbriviations are always 2 letters, some examples are:
Actually the three and four letter abbreviations are still acceptable,
although letters written with the two-letter abbreviations do have
priority due to the ease of use with mechanical/computerized sorting
equipment.
>
> ND = North Dakota
> FL = Florida
> WA = Washington
> CA = California
> MD = Maryland
>
> Canada used to have 3 letter abbreviations for each province but
> has since changed to the 2 letter abbreviations to standardize
> with the U.S. Some examples are:
>
> Man. (now MB) = Manitoba
> Que. (now PQ) = Quebec
> Ont. (now ON) = Ontario
>
> Sometimes these same abbreviations are also used in internet
> addresses, this is probably what threw Tenchi off and made him
> think I was talking about internet addresses. Names with the
> geographic hiararchy are more common in Canada than the U.S.
> though. American's perfer using domain names ending in ".com",
> ".org", and ".net" over ".us". One person told me there were
> only 4 names registered ending in ".nd.us". Here in Canada
> there has until recently been a small incentive towards the
*.us isn't actually deferred, but rather is more or less unknown, even
though it is the proper US domain. As far as I know, the only *.mi.us
domains that are actually used are all offshoots of the State of
Michigan's *.gov site, and various municipal governments therein...
> geographic domain names. At one point in the past ".ca" names
> were free (they no longer are) and the Canadian registrar limited
> names without the provincial part to organizations that were
> federally registered so names ending in ".mb.ca" or ".on.ca"
> have become more common than in the U.S. where there wasn't an
> advantage like that.
>
> Since it wouldn't be a physical state ".ae.us" wouldn't be reserved
> for use. (At least I think it wouldn't be. ^_-) Hmmm? Since ae
Actually, I know there are a few .*.us second-level domains that are
reserved for fedral/state Departmental use... *.dd.us, I believe is
reserved for the Department of Defense, mainly for use by the various
local National Guard and Coast Guard stations...
> isn't reserved I suppose someone could register that as a domain name
> if they met the criteria for a ".us" name. ^_^ I'm not sure who
> would want a site name like www.ae.us though unless it was targeted
> at U.S. servicemen as site visitors.
>
> BTW, Andrew (the guy that runs Negavision ^_-) no longer uses that
> address so I'm not compromising any personal info by using it as an
> example. (So people that get tapes from me don't have to worry about
> your address being posted on the net, unless of course you send a
> bad check. ^_-) That box is now likely used by somebody else. If
> you are wondering what "A1C" means it means "Airman 1st Class" which
> is the rank that Andrew held when he was stationed in England.
Actually, I'm former millitary myself... PFC in the Army when I was
discharged, to be specific....
<throws up his AGFFH .sig, just for the military reference...>
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On 6-Nov-2000, Glen A. Pearce <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
> In article <8u5ick$ikd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Glen A. Pearce <gle...@autobahn.mb.ca> wrote:
>
> > --
> > Glen's guide to lesser known state codes:
> > PR = Puerto Rico
>
> Funny thing, a lot of American don't know that Puerto Rico is part
> of the U.S. It's technically not a state but it's an "insular
> possesion" so it's served by the U.S. Postal Service has a state
> code ans ZIP codes. There has been an ongoing debate on whether
> to officialy make it a state which would be a good thing for
> bussiness reasons (and people would know that it was actually part
> of the U.S. finnally ^_-) but it keeps dragging out.
Actually, there isn't really any debate about granting PR statehood....
It was supposed to be done in 1990, and Congress brings it up every
year. To date every time it comes up, Puerto Rico's own non-voting
House Rep. ties it up in a committee until it's forgotten about.
David Damerell
>I think .us is reserved for state web pages
>For example mississippi is state.ms.us
>But you get the idea :)
Then you would be wrong, although a lot of US states do use .us in that
fashion.
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Glen A. Pearce
jlpier...@aol.communist (James L. Pierce) wrote:
> I think .us is reserved for state web pages
>
> For example mississippi is state.ms.us
> But you get the idea :)
The web page for the (now defuct) Tomadachi Anime is on a server that
ended in .us
http://bbs.chemek.cc.or.us/PUBLIC/USERS/HP_U15746/INDEX.HTM
The server belongs to a College, I'm unclear on whether you can have
a .us name without the state specification and I'm not sure what types
of organizations it's limited to but I know it's broader that just
state governments. Simplenet.com used to have some info about ccTLDs
but that disappeared after yahoo took them over.
Glen A. Pearce
Farix <far...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Guam and American Samoa have territorial statues. Puerto Rico,
> on the other hand, is neither a state nor a territory but something
> in between with a little bit of independent nation thrown in for
> good measure. O_o
>
> Speaking of US territories, isn’t part of the Virgin Islands included
> as part of US territories?
Yep!
> Farix
> --
> "Under the Republican tax plan, the rich get a benefit, and I get a
> benefit. Under the Democratic tax plan, the rich don't get a benefit,
> and I don't get a benefit. Now who do you think I'm going to vote
> for?" -- from the Charleston Daily Mail Vent Line
Heh, heh, now that does sound like a rather easy choice. ^_- Actually
under a Libertarian Government both you and the rich would get an even
better bennefit that what the Republicans offer. ^_-
Handy links:
For Canadians:
http://www.libertarian.ca
For Americans:
http://www.lp.org/