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Scortia with her Jupiter Fanbook and Plushie!
starting our Post Impressionism (VanGogh, Seurat) final art
projects....I, like I always do, had a huge dragon in the sketch of my
Final Art proj....She said, "Oh no! This work has to convey your
inner-most personality....You can't hide behind your dragons anymore!"
I explained to her how the dragon wasn't symbolizing a dragon, but a
guide to the light of hope..*Don't ask ^_~* She sighed and said, "Don't
worry. Someday you'll grow up and realize there is so much more beyond
Fantasy art and Japanese animation..." NANI!?! How dare she....It's as
though, if she doesn't do that style, it is inferior! I'm so pissed!
Telling me I'm hiding behind stereotypes of other peoples'
imaginations...Hmmph! I'd be copying even more by drawing something
actually visibly in front of me....Well. I'm done throwing my hissy
fit. ^-^
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Zoisite No Miko
>
> My teacher,....I thought she was nice once....In Art 2 we're
> starting our Post Impressionism (VanGogh, Seurat) final art
> projects....I, like I always do, had a huge dragon in the sketch of my
> Final Art proj....She said, "Oh no! This work has to convey your
> inner-most personality....You can't hide behind your dragons anymore!"
> I explained to her how the dragon wasn't symbolizing a dragon, but a
> guide to the light of hope..*Don't ask ^_~* She sighed and said, "Don't
> worry. Someday you'll grow up and realize there is so much more beyond
> Fantasy art and Japanese animation..." NANI!?! How dare she....It's as
> though, if she doesn't do that style, it is inferior! I'm so pissed!
> Telling me I'm hiding behind stereotypes of other peoples'
> imaginations...Hmmph! I'd be copying even more by drawing something
> actually visibly in front of me....Well. I'm done throwing my hissy
> fit. ^-^
My english teacher, after recieving my paper on why Clef was a wise
person, told me that she was worried about me. -_-;; I really should
lend her some anime some time... anyone have any suggestions about
something intellectual? Preferably not magic girl... I don't think she'd
take it seriously. I was thinking of Kaze to Ki no Uta - but then she
might also get the Wrong Idea about anime. Sooo... any suggestions?
~ZNM
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>
>My english teacher, after recieving my paper on why Clef was a wise
>person, told me that she was worried about me. -_-;; I really should
>lend her some anime some time... anyone have any suggestions about
>something intellectual? Preferably not magic girl... I don't think she'd
>take it seriously. I was thinking of Kaze to Ki no Uta - but then she
>might also get the Wrong Idea about anime. Sooo... any suggestions?
Get her Evangelion. If you can't get her to like
anime, at the very least she can't claim that it's not
intellectual. In fact, ask *her* to describe what happened
in episode 25 and 26. I'm still waiting for the answer.
Korb
<3643B494...@i-55.com>...
> My teacher,....I thought she was nice once....In Art 2 we're
>starting our Post Impressionism (VanGogh, Seurat) final art
>projects....I, like I always do, had a huge dragon in the sketch of my
>Final Art proj....She said, "Oh no! This work has to convey your
>inner-most personality....You can't hide behind your dragons anymore!"
>I explained to her how the dragon wasn't symbolizing a dragon, but a
>guide to the light of hope..*Don't ask ^_~* She sighed and said, "Don't
>worry. Someday you'll grow up and realize there is so much more beyond
>Fantasy art and Japanese animation..." NANI!?! How dare she....It's as
>though, if she doesn't do that style, it is inferior! I'm so pissed!
>Telling me I'm hiding behind stereotypes of other peoples'
>imaginations...Hmmph! I'd be copying even more by drawing something
>actually visibly in front of me....Well. I'm done throwing my hissy
>fit. ^-^
Gee I thought that anything goes in those kind of classes. If your teacher
can't understand that the dragon does convey your inner-most personality,
then she's obviously not very understanding. Its kind of like me and my
English class, we're analyzing the poems of Sylvia Plath, my teacher said
that there are no right or wrong answers in that kind of work, its all how
you see it. It pretty darned obvious that your art teacher isn't very open
minded.
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most part pathetic bitter people with big egos who don't know what they are
talking about.
Scortia with her Jupiter Fanbook and Plushie! wrote:
> My teacher,....I thought she was nice once....In Art 2 we're
> starting our Post Impressionism (VanGogh, Seurat) final art
> projects....I, like I always do, had a huge dragon in the sketch of my
> Final Art proj....She said, "Oh no! This work has to convey your
> inner-most personality....You can't hide behind your dragons anymore!"
> I explained to her how the dragon wasn't symbolizing a dragon, but a
> guide to the light of hope..*Don't ask ^_~* She sighed and said, "Don't
> worry. Someday you'll grow up and realize there is so much more beyond
> Fantasy art and Japanese animation..." NANI!?! How dare she....It's as
> though, if she doesn't do that style, it is inferior! I'm so pissed!
> Telling me I'm hiding behind stereotypes of other peoples'
> imaginations...Hmmph! I'd be copying even more by drawing something
> actually visibly in front of me....Well. I'm done throwing my hissy
> fit. ^-^
>
MGHapyBuny
><3643B494...@i-55.com>...
>> My teacher,....I thought she was nice once....In Art 2 we're
>>starting our Post Impressionism (VanGogh, Seurat) final art
>>projects....I, like I always do, had a huge dragon in the sketch of my
>>Final Art proj....She said, "Oh no! This work has to convey your
>>inner-most personality....You can't hide behind your dragons anymore!"
>>I explained to her how the dragon wasn't symbolizing a dragon, but a
>>guide to the light of hope..*Don't ask ^_~* She sighed and said, "Don't
>>worry. Someday you'll grow up and realize there is so much more beyond
>>Fantasy art and Japanese animation..." NANI!?! How dare she....It's as
>>though, if she doesn't do that style, it is inferior! I'm so pissed!
>>Telling me I'm hiding behind stereotypes of other peoples'
>>imaginations...Hmmph!
That art teacher does have a point though, but may have explained what she
meant the wrong way. She's just preparing you for the real art world. In fact,
sadly, most art teachers will tell you the same thing especially if you keep
using the same thing as your subject. If all you draw is anime, comic,
cartoon, fantasy stuff, or fuzzy kittens, your not really drawing something
unique and all your own that represents you even if you have mastered drawing
Batman or Fairies. It doesn't show you can be versital and creative. I myself
love to draw anime/manga style when ever I have spare time. But when I'm in my
art class and anyone sees my professional works, it's hard to believe I have a
notebook full of Sailormoon heads. :Ş
I'd be copying even more by drawing something
>>actually visibly in front of me....Well. I'm done throwing my hissy
>>fit. ^-^
If you are interested in a career in art, like let's say be a Disney
animator, Illustrator, Comic artist, or even a clothing designer, you have to
know how to draw from real life. Yep, it sux, I know, but all the neato art
jobs in the world require you know how the draw perspective, use contrast, draw
the human body proportionally, and most of all be able to adapt to draw
anything and not stick to the safety of a single style and media. They are just
a few of many key elements a person must know and master in order to do all the
cool stuff. Art schools also require you have these skills with examples of
your work as your proof.
Think of your dragons as a secuirity blanket that you must put aside and try
something new. It's perfectly alright to still draw dragons as well as other
things that you may enjoy, but if you have skill and want to make a career out
of it you have to prove you can draw more than just dragons.
You do have every right to be mad at your teacher though. Instead of trying to
enlighten you, she just pissed you off. I just hope that all I did was
enlightening to you, and not piss you off too. And if I did, I give you
permission to flame me with firey emails from the depths of burning hell.
^-^''
HB
Frank White
>
>Scortia with her Jupiter Fanbook and Plushie! wrote:
<snip>
>My english teacher, after recieving my paper on why Clef was a wise
>person, told me that she was worried about me. -_-;; I really should
>lend her some anime some time... anyone have any suggestions about
>something intellectual? Preferably not magic girl... I don't think she'd
>take it seriously. I was thinking of Kaze to Ki no Uta - but then she
>might also get the Wrong Idea about anime. Sooo... any suggestions?
>
>~ZNM
Hit her with "The Grave of the Fireflies". It will either expand
her consciousness about the possibilites of anime, or depress her
to the point she ceases to function. Maybe both.
FW
Scott Delahunt
Frank White (fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com) writes:
> In article <3643C9...@Kettle.grl>, Tree...@Kettle.grl says...
>>person, told me that she was worried about me. -_-;; I really should
>>lend her some anime some time... anyone have any suggestions about
>>something intellectual? Preferably not magic girl... I don't think she'd
>>take it seriously. I was thinking of Kaze to Ki no Uta - but then she
>>might also get the Wrong Idea about anime. Sooo... any suggestions?
> her consciousness about the possibilites of anime, or depress her
> to the point she ceases to function. Maybe both.
I second that. The story is much deeper, much fuller than anything that
was ever animated in English, and beats out several live action
productions.
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cn...@freenet.carleton.ca | something I said?"
| - The Big Cheese, "Youth is for Exploding",
| Samurai Pizza Cats
Ophelia
<snippedness>
> My english teacher, after recieving my paper on why Clef was a wise
> person, told me that she was worried about me. -_-;; I really should
> lend her some anime some time... anyone have any suggestions about
> something intellectual? Preferably not magic girl... I don't think she'd
> take it seriously. I was thinking of Kaze to Ki no Uta - but then she
> might also get the Wrong Idea about anime. Sooo... any suggestions?
Lessee... Grave of the Fireflies, for sure. Memories, y'know, the one
by the director of Akira. Key the Metal Idol. Nausicaa, but make sure
it's not the dub "Warriors of the Wind" (which I saw a few days ago-
good LORD, there went most of the main point of the movie, chopped!
*sob*). Other Miyazaki and Ghibli stuff that isn't aimed specifically at
small children (even though I absolutely love Totoro and am constantlly
trying to expand my plushy Totoro collection ^_^;) like Whispers of the
Heart, and I'd definitely add Monokoe Hime, even though it's not out in
North America yet and I haven't seen it ^_^; Id say EVA, but it takes a
bit to really get into it, IMHO, and making her watch all 26 eps....
^_^; I'd say go with Grave of the Fireflies to start.
Ophelia & the Gargoyle
(back to the vast amounts of work that must be done before Reading
Break, which starts.. Wed ^_^;)
Jason Eric Tucker
"Scortia with her Jupiter Fanbook and Plushie!" (sco...@i-55.com) writes:
> My teacher,....I thought she was nice once....In Art 2 we're
> starting our Post Impressionism (VanGogh, Seurat) final art
> projects....I, like I always do, had a huge dragon in the sketch of my
> Final Art proj....She said, "Oh no! This work has to convey your
> inner-most personality....You can't hide behind your dragons anymore!"
> I explained to her how the dragon wasn't symbolizing a dragon, but a
> guide to the light of hope..*Don't ask ^_~* She sighed and said, "Don't
> worry. Someday you'll grow up and realize there is so much more beyond
> Fantasy art and Japanese animation..." NANI!?! How dare she....It's as
> though, if she doesn't do that style, it is inferior! I'm so pissed!
> Telling me I'm hiding behind stereotypes of other peoples'
> actually visibly in front of me....Well. I'm done throwing my hissy
> fit. ^-^
>
*IS* a whole world out there besides what you do. It's not inferior or
superior to fantasy art or anime. It's just different. Empty your cup and
broaden your horizons. It's good for you.
Goerge Seurat is cool, and so is Claude Monet. I like Bob Ross
(a.k.a. "the happy tree guy") and Hokusai. Leo DaVinci was pretty cool,
and I'm a big fan of comic book artist Gorge Perez.
I like the way Monet used shades of color to show shape and form
better that Rembrant's light-and-dark contrast (which does not make one
superior to the other). I like the serenity of Bob Ross' paintings as well
as the detail and emotion that George Perez conveys (which means there is
room to apreciate more than one style.).
Step out from your little cubicle and see the big picture. You may
be surprised.
-Jason Tucker
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Jason Eric Tucker
KK (kku...@cs.yu.edu) writes:
> No someday you''l grow up and realize that high school teachers are for the
> most part pathetic bitter people with big egos who don't know what they are
> talking about.
>
that Adriano Gonzales (a personal hero of mine) doesn't know chemistry?
Are you suggesting that Mr. Stanley and Mrs. Altman at Holmes in San
Antonio are mathematically illiterate? Mrs. Beckwith was a fine art
teacher that supported her students, whether they wanted to go on to
become mural painters or comic book artists.
None of the teachers that I hold in high regard had a trace of
overblown ego and they were not so incompitent as you would have others
beleive. I am a biophysics student who wants to become a secondary level
educator, and I would have words with any punk like you who would suggest
that I don't know what I'm doing.
-Jason Tucker
(posting a lot of off-topic stuff today.)
James Helferty
>
> Frank White (fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com) writes:
> > In article <3643C9...@Kettle.grl>, Tree...@Kettle.grl says...
> >>person, told me that she was worried about me. -_-;; I really should
> >>lend her some anime some time... anyone have any suggestions about
> >>something intellectual? Preferably not magic girl... I don't think she'd
> >>take it seriously. I was thinking of Kaze to Ki no Uta - but then she
> >>might also get the Wrong Idea about anime. Sooo... any suggestions?
> > her consciousness about the possibilites of anime, or depress her
> > to the point she ceases to function. Maybe both.
>
> I second that. The story is much deeper, much fuller than anything that
> was ever animated in English, and beats out several live action
> productions.
I tricate that. I'm still depressed, and I only saw it a month ago.
James
..damn but it's powerful..
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>
> Zoisite No Miko wrote:
>
> <snippedness>
>
> > person, told me that she was worried about me. -_-;; I really should
> > lend her some anime some time... anyone have any suggestions about
> > something intellectual? Preferably not magic girl... I don't think she'd
> > take it seriously. I was thinking of Kaze to Ki no Uta - but then she
> > might also get the Wrong Idea about anime. Sooo... any suggestions?
>
> by the director of Akira. Key the Metal Idol. Nausicaa, but make sure
> it's not the dub "Warriors of the Wind" (which I saw a few days ago-
> good LORD, there went most of the main point of the movie, chopped!
> *sob*). Other Miyazaki and Ghibli stuff that isn't aimed specifically at
> small children (even though I absolutely love Totoro and am constantlly
> trying to expand my plushy Totoro collection ^_^;) like Whispers of the
> Heart, and I'd definitely add Monokoe Hime, even though it's not out in
> North America yet and I haven't seen it ^_^; Id say EVA, but it takes a
> bit to really get into it, IMHO, and making her watch all 26 eps....
> ^_^; I'd say go with Grave of the Fireflies to start.
Definitely. And then Memories. Memories damn near floored me.
Although.. well, it might be better to do it the other way around. If
you start with Memories, it'll give her a chance to build up some
emotional resistance. If you start with Grave of the Fireflies, you're
gonna make her suicidal..
> Ophelia & the Gargoyle
> (back to the vast amounts of work that must be done before Reading
> Break, which starts.. Wed ^_^;)
Ouch... Good luck..!
James
..wondering if he gets a reading week.. hmm..
James Helferty
>
[snip]
> Think of your dragons as a secuirity blanket that you must put aside and try
> something new. It's perfectly alright to still draw dragons as well as other
> things that you may enjoy, but if you have skill and want to make a career out
> of it you have to prove you can draw more than just dragons.
I recommend being inventive; draw people in dragon armour, a still life
of fruit held in a dragon's paw.. ^_^
I also highly recommend getting a copy of "Son of Interflux" by Gordon
Korman. It's an awesome book, and the subject matter relates well with
what you're talking about. You see, there's this one kid in the book
who really likes to paint camels.. ^_-
James
..who can't get enough of Gordon Korman's earlier work.. ^_^
Scortia with her Jupiter Fanbook and Plushie!
James Helferty wrote:
> MGHapyBuny wrote:
> >
>
> [snip]
>
> > Think of your dragons as a secuirity blanket that you must put aside and try
> > something new. It's perfectly alright to still draw dragons as well as other
> > things that you may enjoy, but if you have skill and want to make a career out
> > of it you have to prove you can draw more than just dragons.
>
> I recommend being inventive; draw people in dragon armour,
Done it! ^_~ I do do all forms of fantasy art ya' know ( I just happen to favor
dragons most of all, because of all there different forms, and personalities that
can arise)....Gryphons, warlocks, elves,....but I give them my own unique look, from
as I see them....I don't call that stereotyping....
> a still life
> of fruit held in a dragon's paw.. ^_^
Nah!
>
>
> I also highly recommend getting a copy of "Son of Interflux" by Gordon
> Korman. It's an awesome book, and the subject matter relates well with
> what you're talking about. You see, there's this one kid in the book
> who really likes to paint camels.. ^_-
Camels? Now there's something unique....^_~
--
--Scortia-chan
Who's thinking of renaming herself, Silverdrake. ^-^
Frank White
>
> My teacher,....I thought she was nice once....In Art 2 we're
>starting our Post Impressionism (VanGogh, Seurat) final art
>projects....I, like I always do, had a huge dragon in the sketch of my
>Final Art proj....She said, "Oh no! This work has to convey your
>inner-most personality....You can't hide behind your dragons anymore!"
>I explained to her how the dragon wasn't symbolizing a dragon, but a
>guide to the light of hope..*Don't ask ^_~* She sighed and said, "Don't
>worry. Someday you'll grow up and realize there is so much more beyond
>Fantasy art and Japanese animation..." NANI!?! How dare she....It's as
>though, if she doesn't do that style, it is inferior! I'm so pissed!
>Telling me I'm hiding behind stereotypes of other peoples'
>imaginations...Hmmph! I'd be copying even more by drawing something
>actually visibly in front of me....Well. I'm done throwing my hissy
>fit. ^-^
If you've got it, go watch the SuperS episode in which ChibiUsa
draws Pegasus into what's supposed to be a real-life landscape,
and refuses to take it out even when her art teacher tells her
to. Because, the Chib insists, it makes the picture look good.
You'll feel better.
Maybe you can show the episode to your teacher, too, and see what
she thinks about it.
FW
Scortia with her Jupiter Fanbook and Plushie!
Frank White wrote:
I lent out that tape on Friday...^-^
Damn, why'd I have to go and make half my friends into total anime
fans?!? I've got 3 precious tapes out, but luckily getting one of my friends
off by mid-week, because she has the tape of the new volumes of S and
SailorStars. Another one, watched an entire EP per day...(And with all that
homework we get!) Quite amazing! O_o
The other one takes forever, because she claims subtitles give her
migraines...^_~ And I have about 4 more people on a waiting list because
they want to know what's so good that it's our main topic of conversation!
^-^ If anybody wants to view the same video twice, I'm charging
rental....And in a month, I'm inviting a bunch over to have an overnight
Fushigi Yuugi marathon,.....since those tapes are too precious to let out the
house...^_~
Back to the subject at hand....Yeah, I certainly do feel like ChibiUsa
in that episode...*I don't want any of you CUTE people making jokes about
this!*....The annoying thing is....Before, we did projects this year for
Watercolor (Which was really a waste, IMHO), Realism: Trompe L'Oeil (Very
detailed, roses and such), and Impressionism (Catching an instant in time,
looking at trees)......All school year I haven't gotten to do anything out of
my imagintion!.....She's just too picky. She wouldn't let one of my friends
paint a saxophone and another paint a horse or a centaur....(They paint and
draw that stuff, like me with dragons..^_~) I don't think she has enough
gaul to sit through an entire episode. So many adults are opinionated about
how it's just another crappy, cartoon phase....Well, anyway.
--
--Scortia-chan
James Helferty
>
> James Helferty wrote:
>
> > MGHapyBuny wrote:
> > >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Think of your dragons as a secuirity blanket that you must put aside and try
> > > something new. It's perfectly alright to still draw dragons as well as other
> > > things that you may enjoy, but if you have skill and want to make a career out
> > > of it you have to prove you can draw more than just dragons.
> >
> > I recommend being inventive; draw people in dragon armour,
>
> Done it! ^_~ I do do all forms of fantasy art ya' know ( I just happen to favor
> dragons most of all, because of all there different forms, and personalities that
> can arise)....Gryphons, warlocks, elves,....but I give them my own unique look, from
> as I see them....I don't call that stereotyping....
... okay...
..So I guess that means that you are, technically, caught up in your
fantasy, right? ^_^;
> > a still life
> > of fruit held in a dragon's paw.. ^_^
>
> Nah!
^_^;
> > I also highly recommend getting a copy of "Son of Interflux" by Gordon
> > Korman. It's an awesome book, and the subject matter relates well with
> > what you're talking about. You see, there's this one kid in the book
> > who really likes to paint camels.. ^_-
>
> Camels? Now there's something unique....^_~
You've _got_ to read that book. I'm still laughing, and I read it seven
years ago. ^_^
> --Scortia-chan
> Who's thinking of renaming herself, Silverdrake. ^-^
...
Scortia.. I'm starting to agree with your teacher.. ^_^;
James
..when fantasy and reality collide.. it's time to change your toon..
Katrinka
>
> After many years of being a teacher, I guess somebody broke her spirit.
To think, I use Subbed anime for my special education students.
I also have one anime poster up in one of my rooms. (I teach at
two schools)
my kids, who are poor think it's great that they can get Japanese stuff
as rewards, since they have barely anything.
Two of my kids dressed as sailor moon for the 31.
Oh and they say they watch it on the "Chinese Channel"
I think it's cable, since all my students live near an air force base.
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Richard Knight
: KK (kku...@cs.yu.edu) writes:
: > No someday you''l grow up and realize that high school teachers are for the
: > most part pathetic bitter people with big egos who don't know what they are
: > talking about.
: >
: Are you telling me that Jose Ramierez knew nothing of physics, and
: that Adriano Gonzales (a personal hero of mine) doesn't know chemistry?
: Are you suggesting that Mr. Stanley and Mrs. Altman at Holmes in San
: Antonio are mathematically illiterate? Mrs. Beckwith was a fine art
: teacher that supported her students, whether they wanted to go on to
: become mural painters or comic book artists.
Dressen. Posey. Halfant.
: None of the teachers that I hold in high regard had a trace of
: overblown ego and they were not so incompitent as you would have others
: beleive. I am a biophysics student who wants to become a secondary level
: educator, and I would have words with any punk like you who would suggest
: that I don't know what I'm doing.
I'll have to buy you a meter stick.
--
-Richard Knight
The intelligence of any discussion diminishes with the square of the
number of participants.
-- Adam Walinsky
... ich bin in einem dusenjet ins jahr 53 vor chr ... ich lande im
antiken Rom ... einige gladiatoren spielen scrabble ... ich rieche
PIZZA ...
Leslie Silbernagel
Jason Eric Tucker wrote:
> KK (kku...@cs.yu.edu) writes:
> > No someday you''l grow up and realize that high school teachers are for the
> > most part pathetic bitter people with big egos who don't know what they are
> > talking about.
> >
> Are you telling me that Jose Ramierez knew nothing of physics, and
> that Adriano Gonzales (a personal hero of mine) doesn't know chemistry?
> Are you suggesting that Mr. Stanley and Mrs. Altman at Holmes in San
> Antonio are mathematically illiterate? Mrs. Beckwith was a fine art
> teacher that supported her students, whether they wanted to go on to
> become mural painters or comic book artists.
> None of the teachers that I hold in high regard had a trace of
> overblown ego and they were not so incompitent as you would have others
> beleive. I am a biophysics student who wants to become a secondary level
> educator, and I would have words with any punk like you who would suggest
> that I don't know what I'm doing.
Ffffftttttttttt! Hissssssssssss!
sorry. had to do that. I really need to stop listening to my cat.
*leans back and yells* STOP TALKING TO ME!
Exactley what is your definition of "punk"?
I've had some really bad teaches. Most were good, but some were bad. That's just
the way life is. I have spoken.
And hissed!
Quiet Smudgie.
RD
Leslie Silbernagel
> Back to the subject at hand....Yeah, I certainly do feel like ChibiUsa
> in that episode...*I don't want any of you CUTE people making jokes about
> this!*....The annoying thing is....Before, we did projects this year for
> Watercolor (Which was really a waste, IMHO), Realism: Trompe L'Oeil (Very
> detailed, roses and such), and Impressionism (Catching an instant in time,
> looking at trees)......All school year I haven't gotten to do anything out of
> my imagintion!.....She's just too picky. She wouldn't let one of my friends
> paint a saxophone and another paint a horse or a centaur....(They paint and
> draw that stuff, like me with dragons..^_~) I don't think she has enough
> gaul to sit through an entire episode. So many adults are opinionated about
> how it's just another crappy, cartoon phase....Well, anyway.
Boy I hear you on that. My friends all think SM is way cool, and I made up my own
characters and draw them all the time. My art teacher doesn't mind and I think
she kinda likes them. (But they're not for her class. I'm only in Art 1) But my
parents act like it's just a phase. It's not. It was with my cousin, and now for
some strange reason, she thinks Sailor Moon is evil and the devil is clouding my
brain! Geez! My own cousin! TRAITOR!
RD
>
Chrispy Nacho
cy...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Eric Tucker) wrote:
[SNIP]
>Stanley and Mrs. Altman at Holmes in San
>Antonio
[SNIP]
> -Jason Tucker
I went to Marshall last year (my senior year). Small world.
Anyway, I'm of the opinion that many teacher's ARE very good, but many are
also just really bad. The good ones are friendly with their students and
push them, positively, to do better, get on to them when they don't do
their homework, ect.. Generally good teachers are concerned about the
students' education. A bad teacher is more of an athority figure than an
educator. They are more concerned with discipline and keeping the "kids"
from behaving badly. Which doesn't work, most students that are
"disruptive" are going to be worse if you don't want them to be. School
is supposed to be a place for learning not not the shaping of one's
behavior (at least not from teacher's anyway).
My mother was an office secretary at an Elementary school I went to
durring 3rd, 4th, and 5th grades. Almost a day didn't go by that I didn't
hear about how child like some of the teachers behaved. At my mother's
school, there were two groups (I called them factions) of teachers: The
Pricipal's underlings, and the educators. That school started out pretty
good. But teachers started talking shmack behind others' backs, cheating
and lying to get better standing with the principal, just really childish
shit. Fortuneately my mother managed to stay nutral for 4 years (my mom
is great at that). But when one of her friends, an educator, was
fired/quit she just couldn't stand it. My mother (ex-president of the
school's PTA) eventually became so digusted at the teachers that she
brought it up at a PTA meeting. The parents were pissed at the teachers'
behavior, but nothing changed except that my mother was now being attacked
by the principal's faction. My mom got to a point where she couldn't do
her job because of the childishness of the teachers. She quit and now
lives much less stressful life.
Many teachers at Marshall were like that too. Most of the good teachers
transfered to the new Sandra Day O'Connor HS last year. Good luck to them
all.
Well, that was really off-topic, let's try it again,
-Chrispy Nacho
Stu
Don't ever let them embarass you about your content. Yeah, maybe they don't
think it's A-R-T, but if they are knowledgeable about the subject, they will
realize that modern art is all about breaking boudaries. Art can be
anything.
Do (if they're good) listen to them about breaking your own boundaries.
Trying something different, something that you might never in a million
years want to try, can really add to your repetoire. Sure, it's boring now,
but maybe you'll appreciate it later.
Also, keep in mind, that the there are good teachers and not-so-good
teachers. You have to make a grade while your in that class. So you might
have to suck up a little. But don't let them take your spirit away. Do
everything you can now? Later is too late.
Stu
KK
> Jason Eric Tucker wrote:
>
> > KK (kku...@cs.yu.edu) writes:
> > > No someday you''l grow up and realize that high school teachers are for the
> > > most part pathetic bitter people with big egos who don't know what they are
> > > talking about.
> > >
> > Are you telling me that Jose Ramierez knew nothing of physics, and
> > that Adriano Gonzales (a personal hero of mine) doesn't know chemistry?
> > Are you suggesting that Mr. Stanley and Mrs. Altman at Holmes in San
> > Antonio are mathematically illiterate? Mrs. Beckwith was a fine art
> > teacher that supported her students, whether they wanted to go on to
> > become mural painters or comic book artists.
> > None of the teachers that I hold in high regard had a trace of
> > overblown ego and they were not so incompitent as you would have others
> > beleive. I am a biophysics student who wants to become a secondary level
> > educator, and I would have words with any punk like you who would suggest
> > that I don't know what I'm doing.
>
> Sheeeez just personal experience bud, I did have a few very good and dedicated
> teachers but some were horrible and had no business being educators. I hope you do
> become an exception.
>
>