Bushamerica - "Whites only" signs return to Alabama
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=51622
Tyson Sued for Maintaining Segregated Work Areas: 'Whites Only' Sign
and Padlock Placed on Bathroom Door
8/11/2005 4:43:00 PM
To: Metro Desk
Contact: George Davies, 205-870-9989, or Nicole De Sario,
202-662-8303, both of Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law
ASHLAND, Ala., Aug. 11 /U.S. Newswire/ -- A lawsuit filed today
alleges that Tyson Foods Inc. is responsible for maintaining a
segregated bathroom and break room, reminiscent of the Jim Crow era,
in its Ashland, Ala. chicken processing plant. Twelve African-American
employees filed a complaint in the United States District Court for
the Northern District of Alabama, alleging that a "Whites Only" sign
and a padlock denied them access to a bathroom in the Ashland plant.
The complaint states that numerous white employees had keys to the
bathroom that were not provided to African-American workers.
The African-American employees' complaint also alleges that, after
they complained about the segregated bathroom, the plant manager told
them that the bathroom had been locked because they were "dirty" and
announced the closing of the break room. According to the complaint,
the same white employees who had keys to the "Whites Only" bathroom
formed their own, private break room, using Tyson materials to
construct the furniture. Initially, a locked door segregated the
private break room. To the present day, locked cabinets and a locked
refrigerator maintain a private break room.
(snip)
Jim Alder
news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
> http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=51622
>
> Tyson Sued for Maintaining Segregated Work Areas: 'Whites Only' Sign
> and Padlock Placed on Bathroom Door
--
Logic is not everything. But it is something--something which can be
taught, something which can be learned, something which can help us in some
degree to think more sensibly about the dangerous world in which we live.--
David Hackett Fischer, Historians' Fallacies: Toward a Logic of Historical
Thought, Harper & Row, 1970, p. 306.
Cory Bhreckan
> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
>
> Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
> Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
WASHINGTON -- Arkansas companies Tyson Foods, Inc., and Beverly
Enterprises, Inc., have contributed $150,000 toward events surrounding
President Bush's inauguration next week.
The two firms are the latest Arkansas contributors to the 55th
Presidential Inaugural Committee, which is arranging the inaugural
balls, the parade and other events in the four-day celebration.
http://www.agribusinesscenter.org/headlines.cfm?id=745
Nice pics, which one is you?
Xeton2001IsAFla...@spamgourmet.com
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
> http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=51622
>
> Tyson Sued for Maintaining Segregated Work Areas: 'Whites Only' Sign
> and Padlock Placed on Bathroom Door
Considering you've posted into alt.flame.niggers in the past, why is
this an issue for you?
Also, why is this a "BushAmerica" issue? Is the POTUS also CEO of
Tyson?
Tyson's operational record lacks much to be desired; if you recall, a
fire at one of their facilities resulted in the death of a number of
employees due to locked emergency exits. Those people died as a result
of living in KlintonAmerica.
You're a retard, Xeton.
How are things at the bath house, faggot?
Jim Alder
news:n_6Me.6843$rR4.5858@trnddc08:
> Jim Alder wrote:
>> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
>>
>> Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
>> Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
>
> WASHINGTON -- Arkansas companies Tyson Foods, Inc., and Beverly
> Enterprises, Inc., have contributed $150,000 toward events surrounding
> President Bush's inauguration next week.
>
> The two firms are the latest Arkansas contributors to the 55th
> Presidential Inaugural Committee, which is arranging the inaugural
> balls, the parade and other events in the four-day celebration.
>
> http://www.agribusinesscenter.org/headlines.cfm?id=745
After he won the election. Very supportive.
>> http://sj.blacksteel.com/
>
> Nice pics, which one is you?
BWAHAHAHAHA!! I get it!!
Topaz
nation on earth at one time. But now it is almost like a third world
country. What happened? Race-mixing is what happened. They let a lot
of Black people in and of course the result was racial inter-marriage.
Now the Portuguese people are not as White as they were. We need to
preserve the White race. Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:
"All that we admire in the world to-day, its science, its art, its
technical developments and discoveries, are the products of the
creative activities of a few peoples, and it may be true that their
first beginnings must be attributed to one race. The maintenance of
civilization is wholly dependant on such peoples. Should they perish,
all that makes this earth beautiful will descend with them into the
grave."
"All the great civilizations of the past became decadent because the
originally creative race died out, as a result of the contamination on
the blood."
"Every manifestation of human culture, every product of art, science
and technical skill, which we see before our eyes to-day, is almost
exclusively the product of the Aryan creative power. This very fact
fully justifies the conclusion that it was the Aryan alone who founded
a superior type of humanity"
"The foundations of actual life in Japan to-day are not those of the
native Japanese culture, although this characterizes the external
features of the country, which features strike the eye of European
observers on account of their fundamental difference from us; but the
real foundations of contemporary Japanese life are the enormous
scientific and technical achievements of Europe and America, that is
to say, of Aryan peoples."
"A people that fails to preserve the purity of its racial blood
thereby destroys the unity of the soul of the nation in all its
manifestations. A disintegrated national character is the inevitable
consequence of the process of disintegration in the blood. And the
change which takes place in the spiritual and creative faculties of a
people is only an effect of the change that had modified its racial
substance."
"For in a world which would be composed of mongrels and Negroid all
ideals of human beauty and nobility and all hopes of an idealized
future for our humanity would be lost forever."
"It is especially the cultural creativeness which disappears when a
superior race inter-mixes with an inferior one."
"There may be hundreds of excellent States in this earth, and yet if
the Aryan, who is the creator and custodian of civilization, should
disappear, all culture that is on an adequate level with the spiritual
needs of the superior nations to-day would also disappear."
"We National Socialists know that in holding these views we take up a
revolutionary stand in the world to-day and that we are branded as
revolutionaries. But our views and our conduct will not be determined
by the approbation or disapprobation of our contemporaries, but only
by our duty to follow a truth which we have acknowledged. In doing
this we have reason to believe that posterity will have a clearer
insight"
"Thus for the first time a high inner purpose is accredited to the
State. In face of the ridiculous phrase that the State should do no
more than act as the guardian of public order and tranquility, so that
everybody can peacefully dupe everybody else, it is given a very high
mission indeed to preserve and encourage the highest type of humanity
which a beneficent Creator has bestowed on this earth."
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
Mark Fox
> Bushamerica - "Whites only" signs return to Alabama...
Is that the same "bush america" where the previous secretary of state
was a black man and the current secretary of state is a black woman and
even the new executive chef in the white house is not white but a
Philippine American?
Yea, that sounds real racist to me.
LOL!
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Jim Alder wrote:
> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
>
> Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
> Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
Damn right i blame bush. As i've said before, the problem with being
dictator is that when something goes wrong, everybody knows who to
blame.
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Colin powell was not black, you idiot. Yes, we were told that and it
was another lie of course. Same thing with condi. As for the WH chef!?
- you can't be serious.
Jim Alder
news:1124160751.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
> Jim Alder wrote:
>> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
>>
>> Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
>> Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
>
> Damn right i blame bush.
Frikking A you blame Bush! A cloud appears in the sky and
you blame Bush. A teenager has an accident in 1963 and you
blame Bush. YOU'RE PSYCHOTIC! Your hatred of Bush is
pathological. You're a gibbering, blithering nutso.
cLIeNUX user
>"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:1124160751.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Jim Alder wrote:
>>> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>> Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
>>> Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
>>
>> Damn right i blame bush.
>
> Frikking A you blame Bush! A cloud appears in the sky and
>you blame Bush. A teenager has an accident in 1963 and you
>blame Bush. YOU'RE PSYCHOTIC! Your hatred of Bush is
>pathological. You're a gibbering, blithering nutso.
And that's no accident baby.
Jim Alder
news:11g2ole...@corp.supernews.com:
> humb...@smart.net
>>"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:1124160751.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Jim Alder wrote:
>>>> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>> Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
>>>> Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
>>>
>>> Damn right i blame bush.
>>
>> Frikking A you blame Bush! A cloud appears in the sky and
>>you blame Bush. A teenager has an accident in 1963 and you
>>blame Bush. YOU'RE PSYCHOTIC! Your hatred of Bush is
>>pathological. You're a gibbering, blithering nutso.
>
> And that's no accident baby.
It could be one of birth.
E.E.Bud Keith
"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124160751.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
If Bush had the dictitorial powers you insist he has, why would he let a
silly little monkey like you run around spouting lies. When with just the
blink of his eye he could bury you in a jail so deep that you would never be
heard from again.
>
Mark Fox
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> Mark Fox wrote:
> > Some driveling idiot wrote:
> >
> > > Bushamerica - "Whites only" signs return to Alabama...
> >
> >
> > Is that the same "bush america" where the previous secretary of state
> > was a black man and the current secretary of state is a black woman and
> > even the new executive chef in the white house is not white but a
> > Philippine American?
> >
> > Yea, that sounds real racist to me.
>
> Colin powell was not black, you idiot.
Gosh, we already knew that you were a bit foolish but I didn't realize
that we were talking to a completely insane nutball.
Mark Fox
Jim Alder wrote:
> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1124160751.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Jim Alder wrote:
> >> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
> >>
> >> Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
> >> Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
> >
> > Damn right i blame bush.
>
> Frikking A you blame Bush! A cloud appears in the sky and
> you blame Bush. A teenager has an accident in 1963 and you
> blame Bush.
Hey, nutball, you do realize that Laura Welch wasn't a BUSH back in
1963? Don't you? LOL!! You are trying to blame a car accident on the
Bush family when you know that no one belonging to the Bush family had
anything to do with it in 1963. You are so excited about hating a Bush,
any Bush, that you are stumbling all over yourself with stupid
statements and lies. Its really quite funny. Are you drunk?
> YOU'RE PSYCHOTIC! Your hatred of Bush is
> pathological. You're a gibbering, blithering nutso.
Well said!
>
> --
> Logic is not everything. But it is something--something which can be
> taught, something which can be learned, something which can help us in some
> degree to think more sensibly about the dangerous world in which we live.
and its something that is completely impossible for you to grasp.
LOL!
Rob Olsen
wrote:
>"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:1124160751.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Jim Alder wrote:
>>> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>> Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
>>> Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
>>
>> Damn right i blame bush.
>
> Frikking A you blame Bush! A cloud appears in the sky and
>you blame Bush. A teenager has an accident in 1963 and you
>blame Bush. YOU'RE PSYCHOTIC! Your hatred of Bush is
>pathological. You're a gibbering, blithering nutso.
The hatred that most people on trhe planet feel towards bush was well
earned. He is an ignorant, arrogant, petty, hate filled , fear
mongering piece of shit who is responsible for the deaths of over 5000
americans and 100,000 Iraqis. He is garbage. Anyone who supports him
and what he has done to our once proud nation is scum.
Now go back to kissing your fuehrers ass scum bag.
Rob Olsen
You think that fucking idiot knows how to use usenet???
LOL!! You do overestimate his capabilities. The moron doesn't even
know how to use email.
Cheeks
Because, GW is himself a silly little monkey, "Dud"!
--
"Now, Senator, I gave my heart and soul to oppose the policy that you
promoted. I gave my political life's blood to try to stop the mass
killing of Iraqis
by the sanctions on Iraq which killed one million Iraqis, most of them
children, most of them died before they even knew that they were Iraqis,
but they
died for no other reason other than that they were Iraqis with the
misfortune to born at that time. I gave my heart and soul to stop you
committing the
disaster that you did commit in invading Iraq. And I told the world that
your case for the war was a pack of lies.
“I told the world that Iraq, contrary to your claims did not have
weapons of mass destruction. I told the world, contrary to your claims,
that Iraq had no
connection to al-Qaeda. I told the world, contrary to your claims, that
Iraq had no connection to the atrocity on 9/11 2001. I told the world,
contrary to
your claims, that the Iraqi people would resist a British and American
invasion of their country and that the fall of Baghdad would not be the
beginning of
the end, but merely the end of the beginning.
"Senator, in everything I said about Iraq, I turned out to be right and
you turned out to be wrong and 100,000 people paid with their lives;
1600 of them
American soldiers sent to their deaths on a pack of lies; 15,000 of them
wounded, many of them disabled forever on a pack of lies.
"If the world had listened to Kofi Annan, whose dismissal you demanded,
if the world had listened to President Chirac who you want to paint as
some kind of
corrupt traitor, if the world had listened to me and the anti-war
movement in Britain, we would not be in the disaster that we are in
today. Senator, this
is the mother of all smokescreens. You are trying to divert attention
from the crimes that you supported, from the theft of billions of
dollars of Iraq's
wealth.
"Have a look at the real Oil-for-Food scandal. Have a look at the 14
months you were in charge of Baghdad, the first 14 months when $8.8
billion of Iraq's
wealth went missing on your watch. Have a look at Haliburton and other
American corporations that stole not only Iraq's money, but the money of the
American taxpayer.
"Have a look at the oil that you didn't even meter, that you were
shipping out of the country and selling, the proceeds of which went who
knows where? Have
a look at the $800 million you gave to American military commanders to
hand out around the country without even counting it or weighing it.
"Have a look at the real scandal breaking in the newspapers today,
revealed in the earlier testimony in this committee. That the biggest
sanctions busters
were not me or Russian politicians or French politicians. The real
sanctions busters were your own companies with the connivance of your
own Government."
-British MP George Galloway, Senate testimony, May 16, 2005
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Jim Alder wrote:
> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1124160751.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Jim Alder wrote:
> >> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
> >>
> >> Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
> >> Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
> >
> > Damn right i blame bush.
>
> Frikking A you blame Bush! A cloud appears in the sky and
> you blame Bush. A teenager has an accident in 1963 and you
> blame Bush.
Hey liar. When did i ever blame george bush for his future wife killing
her boyfriend back in 1963???
TedKennedyMurderedHisP...@spamgourmet.com
You imply it with your nyn, retard. If you weren't blaming Bush, you'd
be posting as "Laura Welch Murdered Her Boyfriend."
Perhaps if you wouldn't punk your ass out to every 3" micro-weenie that
came along you'd have clarity of vision.
Xeton2001IsAFla...@spamgourmet.com
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> > Some driveling idiot wrote:
> >
> > > Bushamerica - "Whites only" signs return to Alabama...
> >
> >
> > Is that the same "bush america" where the previous secretary of state
> > was a black man and the current secretary of state is a black woman and
> > even the new executive chef in the white house is not white but a
> > Philippine American?
> >
> > Yea, that sounds real racist to me.
>
> Colin powell was not black, you idiot. Yes, we were told that and it
"was not black?" Did he pull a Micheal Jackson, or are you fantasizing
about spending time at NeverLand again, faggot?
By the way, thanks for the new quote, retard.
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Does he look black to you? Neither his skin color nor his features are
those of a black man. You're a moron if you can't see that.
Jim Alder
news:6aqdnZ2dnZ0W6_r4nZ2dn...@comcast.com:
>
> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:1124160751.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The usual gibberish...
> If Bush had the dictitorial powers you insist he has, why would he let
> a silly little monkey like you run around spouting lies.
Or another one sit outside his ranch gate doing the same thing?
Jim Alder
news:1124193292.4...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> Jim Alder wrote:
>> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:1124160751.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Jim Alder wrote:
>> >> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> >> news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
>> >>
>> >> Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
>> >> Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
>> >
>> > Damn right i blame bush.
>>
>> Frikking A you blame Bush! A cloud appears in the sky and
>> you blame Bush. A teenager has an accident in 1963 and you
>> blame Bush.
>
> Hey, nutball
Yes, dickhead?
> you do realize that Laura Welch wasn't a BUSH back in
> 1963? Don't you? LOL!!
Yes, I do, you giggling idiot. Try to follow the
conversation.
> You are trying to blame a car accident on the
> Bush family when you know that no one belonging to the Bush family had
> anything to do with it in 1963. You are so excited about hating a Bush,
> any Bush, that you are stumbling all over yourself with stupid
> statements and lies. Its really quite funny. Are you drunk?
I guess I'll assume you're talking to the other poster and
not the one you addressed your post to. I'll withdraw the
'idiot' and 'dickhead' for now.
>> YOU'RE PSYCHOTIC! Your hatred of Bush is
>> pathological. You're a gibbering, blithering nutso.
>
> Well said!
>
>> Logic is not everything. But it is something--something which can be
>> taught, something which can be learned, something which can help us in
>> some degree to think more sensibly about the dangerous world in which
>> we live.
>
> and its something that is completely impossible for you to grasp.
>
> LOL!
Is this your first day on the internet?
--
Logic is not everything. But it is something--something which can be
taught, something which can be learned, something which can help us in some
Jim Alder
news:5gl3g1dtt5q87k7bp...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:36:31 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:1124160751.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Jim Alder wrote:
>>>> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:jrq1g1hjneorj4mis...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>> Southern racists and huge Clinton supporter and scandal partner
>>>> Tyson get naileed and you want to blame Bush.
>>>
>>> Damn right i blame bush.
>>
>> Frikking A you blame Bush! A cloud appears in the sky and
>> you blame Bush. A teenager has an accident in 1963 and you
>> blame Bush. YOU'RE PSYCHOTIC! Your hatred of Bush is
>> pathological. You're a gibbering, blithering nutso.
>
> The hatred that most people on trhe planet feel towards bush was well
> earned.
No, they don't! Stop believing the voices in your head and
LOOK THE FUCK AROUND! He was voted in twice, meaning MOST people
even in THIS COUNTRY are not buying the load of crap pouring
out of the leftwing hatemongers for the past five years. Grow
the hell up and accept that you LOST and election and stop
kicking the ground and shrieking like a little girl in
Toys R Us!
Jesus, but you people are tiresome!
> He is an ignorant, arrogant, petty, hate filled, fear
> mongering piece of shit who is responsible for the deaths of over 5000
> americans and 100,000 Iraqis. He is garbage. Anyone who supports him
> and what he has done to our once proud nation is scum.
You're a pathetic loser with the mentality of a nine year
old. And I apologize to most nine year olds at that!
> Now go back to kissing your fuehrers ass scum bag.
Blow it out your ass, loser.
Jim Alder
Guilt by association, psycho. If she hadn't married Bush, you
wouldn't give a fuck about it.
Johnny Lingo
Judy, Judy, Judy...time to take your meds now!
Jim Alder
news:1124229542.8...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
>> Mark Fox wrote:
>> > Some driveling idiot wrote:
>> >
>> > > Bushamerica - "Whites only" signs return to Alabama...
>> >
>> >
>> > Is that the same "bush america" where the previous secretary of
>> > state was a black man and the current secretary of state is a black
>> > woman and even the new executive chef in the white house is not
>> > white but a Philippine American?
>> >
>> > Yea, that sounds real racist to me.
>>
>> Colin powell was not black, you idiot. Yes, we were told that and it
>
> "was not black?" Did he pull a Micheal Jackson, or are you fantasizing
> about spending time at NeverLand again, faggot?
>
> By the way, thanks for the new quote, retard.
New quote? Why would you want to collect the babblings of a lunatic?
Xeton2001IsAFla...@spamgourmet.com
Jim Alder wrote:
> Xeton2001IsAFla...@spamgourmet.com wrote in
> news:1124229542.8...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> >
> > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> >> Mark Fox wrote:
> >> > Some driveling idiot wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Bushamerica - "Whites only" signs return to Alabama...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is that the same "bush america" where the previous secretary of
> >> > state was a black man and the current secretary of state is a black
> >> > woman and even the new executive chef in the white house is not
> >> > white but a Philippine American?
> >> >
> >> > Yea, that sounds real racist to me.
> >>
> >> Colin powell was not black, you idiot. Yes, we were told that and it
> >
> > "was not black?" Did he pull a Micheal Jackson, or are you fantasizing
> > about spending time at NeverLand again, faggot?
> >
> > By the way, thanks for the new quote, retard.
>
> New quote? Why would you want to collect the babblings of a lunatic?
'Cause some of them are pretty darned funny. :-D
Mark Fox
Jim Alder wrote:
> Xeton2001IsAFla...@spamgourmet.com wrote in
> news:1124229542.8...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> >
> > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> >> Mark Fox wrote:
> >> > Some driveling idiot wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Bushamerica - "Whites only" signs return to Alabama...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is that the same "bush america" where the previous secretary of
> >> > state was a black man and the current secretary of state is a black
> >> > woman and even the new executive chef in the white house is not
> >> > white but a Philippine American?
> >> >
> >> > Yea, that sounds real racist to me.
> >>
> >> Colin powell was not black, you idiot. Yes, we were told that and it
> >
> > "was not black?" Did he pull a Micheal Jackson, or are you fantasizing
> > about spending time at NeverLand again, faggot?
> >
> > By the way, thanks for the new quote, retard.
>
> New quote? Why would you want to collect the babblings of a lunatic?
>
Because his babblings are hilarious.
Xeton2001IsAFla...@spamgourmet.com
Cocaine, marijuana, LSD, heroin, alcohol.......
Xeton is a loser
Here's some more, if you're a collector:
Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend (Xeto...@yahoo.com)'s words of
wisdom, love, and respect (spelling and grammatical errors left intact)
Colin powell was not black, you idiot.
:
Just get in front of the trucker and lob a handful or marbles at his
windshield. Perfectly legal since he started it.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/acf43f4e647f4416?hl=en&
Even a safety nut like me doesn't carry things that far.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/c24964a9d26bba6d?hl=en&
I wish everyone involved in this "accident" had died.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/5f4bfd6988914951?hl=en
I don't care who i kill; it's just an accident.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/79da070478765cee
Driving twenty year old beaters doesn't keep me up to date. Anyway it's
a stupid idea.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/ff331395cfc7b81b?hl=en
Screw driver training and courtesy.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/d4aaae4439d8c383
I know you're paid to come on here and spout these idiocies
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/9384db67599b93f3?hl=en&
the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. I get
RESPECT now.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en
Fork the dictionary. You've got your definitions and we've got ours.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/a74373e47d638020?hl=en
STFU YOU HATEFILLED TROLL.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.sport.golf/msg/4bafc59af1481a15?hl=en
Fork you, beyatch. I'm the greatest troll that ever lived!!!! I'm the
world's champ at infuriating all these pschopathic car loonies. HAHAHA
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/8316b755126bd447
Being a troll is an honorable life.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/c795f38d501be2d8?hl=en&
Hey dood. I've been a US senator since 98! You mean you didn't know
that???
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/2f1dd067aa0af690
I never voted in my life, you lying whore. All elections are rigged.
The globalists rigged this one by paying kerry not to attack bush.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/87a31e73cec1db38
It's all about money. Most organ transplants are unnecessary but
doctors make a fortune off them so we have them.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/19e5ff027e51bd5a?hl=en
That "microphone" could have been filled with battery acid. Cruise
should have pulled a knife and slit the guy's guts out.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/84af48b0cba14e15?hl=en
Put AEOS on the list too. It came out with great earnings and guidance
today and yet went down 7% on very heavy volume. When a stock sells off
on good news, it's going much lower.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/msg/1a9e462f5ff431de?hl=en
Of course he does. With a name like roger, you know he's a pervert.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/38c4ddd6a5640c4a?hl=en
What is the P&G logo?. I just went to their WS and didn't see any.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/9acb6a6cd49d23aa?hl=en
Hey stupid. I told you the other day to stop using the phrase
"conspiracy theorist". We're gover-media skeptics.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/402c7cb6952357e9?hl=en
There's not a shred of evidence that the jerries murdered anything
close to 7 million jooz. Another monstrous lie just like the 9-11
official story.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/3650866dc7ecbadc
All his amnesty talk puzzled me because most conservatives are
hatefilled racists and don't want the greaseballs in this country.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/172c99cba6bacc3c?hl=en
You're crazy. There will be a draft. Bush is gonna stage another 9-11
type event and then say we have no choice but to go to war against
every muslim nation. And democrats will say nothing.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/b4a8ea8427fdf968
You are an ignoramus. 9-11 was an inside job. That's for sure.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/d4b6e83b246dae5e?hl=en
The issue is the psychopath doing 60 mph OVER THE LIMIT!!!!!!!!. This
guy is a murderer and i want him locked up anyway they can do it. Three
cheers for the cops.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=780ea958.0411162236.1a4d23a5%40posting.google.com
Market economy???? HAHAHAHA. Prices are whatever the monopolists want
to charge.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/23c9a9e267ecc08f?hl=en
If you speed loons would just slow down we wouldn't have a problem.
drive them until the holes get too big for that tire-in-a-can stuff to
work. Then do what I do and go to pep boys and get a set of used
retreads for $50 and repeat.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/dbe7ec33863c0fc4?hl=en
The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to pay
the interest to the banks. This has been going on for nearly a hundred
years and it's just stealing from the public and giving to the bankers.
JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/f15b1f7d7ea0dfe2
I'm not talking about increasing the money supply; just replacing
borrowed money with printed money.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/760bbaea47e5f5f9
I know what you mean, dood. I did 5 years in the can myself for beating
the crap out of a half-dozen faggot gun loonies i caught raping a
collie and I couldn't handle the food either. Goddam beets with every
meal. Ended up eating nothing but cans of tuna i bought at the commy.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0411242021.7b529c17%40posting.google.com
I don't think knife bans will ever happen, since knives are so damn
easy to make. I remember when i was in prison for beating up a dozen
gun loonies and we used to melt down a thousand or so aspirin tablets
into a thick goo and then let it harden into a knife shape which we
sharpened against the concrete floor. Anybody can make a knife anywhere
out of anything.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rush-limbaugh/msg/018c5bbd64dd19ac
GODDAMMIT - STOP SENDING MESSAGES TO MORE THAN FIVE GROUPS
Google won't allow more than five. It's not my job to delete excessive
group listings but i seem to spend half my life doing that. OBEY THE
RULES, YOU BUTTHOLES!!!!
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/c3d2661d3c6734ed
I am not paid to delete the excessive newsgroups you clowns are posting
to. Obey the rules or GTF out of here!!!!
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/f5c7a53c81f28cdf
Tires don't blow out anymore.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/9a619fee7f463fc2
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/b9727d351b4be64a
Bush is dictator and that means he has to take the blame for
everything.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/a2d35f67fd7b6003
Has he killed as many people as Laura Bush?
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.flame.niggers/msg/c2ff1fca08982a38
You don't know what you're talking about, dood. AIDS is an american
bioweapon developed by americans so that blacks would be esp
susceptible to it.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.sport.baseball/msg/cd9d112311697712
She knows it won't matter. Blake is white so the media will insist on a
not guilty verdict.
:http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/59c74805c56a5747
YOu stupid lying shithead. All bush has accomplished in AFG is to make
it the world's leading heroin supplier.
And BTW it wasn't a war. It was a massacre against a defenseless nation
that never did anything to us.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/29a86842abe0d9d6
She's just damn lucky the press is owned by the GOP and doesn't crucify
her for vehicular manslaughter like they've done to ted kennedy for 35
years.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/cac630fd8aec9a63
I'm saying that bush obviously doesn't want to catch OBL. Not now that
the election is over, anyway.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/46a00a246987524f
You're crazy, dood. Google is a super rw org and they censor liberals.
RW posters here get away with everything while libs have to be choir
boys.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/ca35950242741f13
That's why so many legal scholars think republicans should be banned
from juries. Anyone who'd vote for a man who lied us into war is too
dumb to sit on a jury.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/4dc8560247663014
Wouldn't have mattered if hitty had one. He took his orders from the
same organization that roosevelt did and bush does today.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/cd58ee450b438b19
You can't even lie any good. No where in the country are cops issued
crown victorias.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410112125.4b572994%40posting.google.com
i'm sure jeffrey dahmer also objects to big daddy govt telling him he
can't kill people anymore.
At first i thought the tars had been slashed but no, the tars were fine
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410311926.d89b941%40posting.google.com
I hate cell phone drivers but at least this gal had the sense to drive
slowly while yakking.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0411231910.47c6ceb7%40posting.google.com
Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open stretch
could be 25, i thought. Turns out the cop was right. No complaints from
me then. I should have known the law.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.autos/msg/b140009050c624a9
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/hornsey/515/Xeton2001IsAMoron.html
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( the following contains part of one of Judy's posts, which would not
otherwise
be available due to Judy's use of the X-No-Archive bit)
>>>Of course, they're anti-safety devices!!! Why would anyone think
>>>otherwise, loonball???. I wish you'd get off this board - you make us
>>>intelligent anti-speeders look bad. Plus, URALOON.
>>I think you've got it backwards with regards to who's more radical.
>>Why do you use a handle that's clearly mimicking a bodily function?
>>C.T.
> That's my real name and i'm proud of it. It's pronounced diarrhrea.
> Got it? So many loons in school made fun of me!!!
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/36b69ad3f5e8013a?hl=en
( the following contains part of one of Judy's posts, which would not
otherwise
be available due to Judy's use of the X-No-Archive bit)
> That's the way it should be. In fact even having a RD in your car
>should result in mandatory and permanent loss of DL. Why do you need a
>device whose only function is to help you commit a crime that murders
>thousands of americans a year. URAPSYCHOPATH
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/56c432d3f6f9a6fe?dmode=source&hl=en
Straw man???? If you saw some black guy on crack with a gun, you'd go
ballistic. But alkies with guns is ok with you cause alcohol is YOUR
drug. URA STUPID ILLOGICAL HYPOCRITE.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/c59a4f089df6ecfa?hl=en
We don't need safer cars and roads. The incredible highway carnage is
entirely due to reckless drivers like you. URAMURDERER.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/misc.legal/msg/3352db7c732fd7f1?hl=en
HUH??? The cops plant the gun on him and you still say he deserved 55
years. URAPSYCHO
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/ac09b1777ac5a5ce?hl=en
Jim Alder
wrote in news:1124392954.2...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> Mark Fox wrote:
>> Jim Alder wrote:
>> > .com wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
>> > >> Colin powell was not black, you idiot. Yes, we were told that and
>> > >> it
>> > >
>> > > "was not black?" Did he pull a Micheal Jackson, or are you
>> > > fantasizing about spending time at NeverLand again, faggot?
>> > >
>> > > By the way, thanks for the new quote, retard.
>> >
>> > New quote? Why would you want to collect the babblings
>> > of a lunatic?
>>
>> Because his babblings are hilarious.
>
> Here's some more, if you're a collector:
I don't see much hilarity, just rampant psychosis for the
most part.
But this one happens to be true. I believe. The Federal
Reserve is only slightly more a part of the government than
is Federal Express.
> The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
> private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to pay
> the interest to the banks. This has been going on for nearly a hundred
> years and it's just stealing from the public and giving to the bankers.
> JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY.
>:
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/f15b1f7d7e
> a0dfe2
>
> I'm not talking about increasing the money supply; just replacing
> borrowed money with printed money.
>:
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/760bbaea47
> e5f5f9
> That's why so many legal scholars think republicans should be banned
> from juries. Anyone who'd vote for a man who lied us into war is too
> dumb to sit on a jury.
>:
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/4dc8560247663014
OK, you win. That one is pretty hilarious.
> You can't even lie any good. No where in the country are cops issued
> crown victorias.
>:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&s
> elm=780ea958.0410112125.4b572994%40posting.google.com
OK, that's two.
Mark Fox
Jim Alder wrote:
>
> ... I believe. The Federal
> Reserve is only slightly more a part of the government than
> is Federal Express.
Federal Express is a "for profit" corporation owned by private
citizens. The Federal Reserve is a non profit corporation that is
owned by the federal government. Both have goals spelled out in their
charters of incorporation. Federal Express' goal is to make maximum
profits for its stock holders and the Federal Reserve's goal is to
stabilize the money supply regardless of how much income that generates
in interest on loans.
>
> > The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
> > private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to pay
> > the interest to the banks. This has been going on for nearly a hundred
> > years and it's just stealing from the public and giving to the bankers.
> > JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY.
> >
Last time I looked, the federal reserve was a private corporation
wholly owned by the United States Government like the post office. The
profits from loaning out the newly printed money is used to pay
expenses and the rest is turned into the federal treasury. It was made
into a private corporation with one goal of stabilizing the value of
the dollar by manipulating the money supply and interest rates. Because
its a private corporation it is much more immune to political meddling.
Jim Alder
> Jim Alder wrote:
>
>> ... I believe. The Federal
>> Reserve is only slightly more a part of the government than
>> is Federal Express.
>
> Federal Express is a "for profit" corporation owned by private
> citizens.
That's true.
> The Federal Reserve is a non profit corporation that is
> owned by the federal government.
Owned by? I'd need to see proof of that.
> Both have goals spelled out in their charters of incorporation.
> Federal Express' goal is to make maximum profits for its stock
> holders...
Probably true.
> ... and the Federal Reserve's goal is to stabilize the money
> supply regardless of how much income that generates in
> interest on loans.
Considering that they replaced the gold and silver standards, one has to
wonder if their real goal was ever 'stability.'
>> > The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
>> > private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to
>> > pay the interest to the banks. This has been going on for nearly a
>> > hundred years and it's just stealing from the public and giving to
>> > the bankers. JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY.
>>
> Last time I looked, the federal reserve was a private corporation
> wholly owned by the United States Government like the post office.
Like I said, I don't think so.
> The profits from loaning out the newly printed money is used to pay
> expenses and the rest is turned into the federal treasury. It was made
> into a private corporation with one goal of stabilizing the value of
> the dollar by manipulating the money supply and interest rates. Because
> its a private corporation it is much more immune to political meddling.
Like I said...
Mark Fox
Jim Alder wrote:
> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1124452103.5...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Jim Alder wrote:
> >
> >> ... I believe. The Federal
> >> Reserve is only slightly more a part of the government than
> >> is Federal Express.
> >
> > Federal Express is a "for profit" corporation owned by private
> > citizens.
>
> That's true.
>
> > The Federal Reserve is a non profit corporation that is
> > owned by the federal government.
>
> Owned by? I'd need to see proof of that.
Better yet, you show us proof that someone else, some private citizen,
owns the federal reserve.
>
> > Both have goals spelled out in their charters of incorporation.
> > Federal Express' goal is to make maximum profits for its stock
> > holders...
>
> Probably true.
>
> > ... and the Federal Reserve's goal is to stabilize the money
> > supply regardless of how much income that generates in
> > interest on loans.
>
> Considering that they replaced the gold and silver standards, one has to
> wonder if their real goal was ever 'stability.'
You are drowning in the myth that minerals provide stability as a form
of money supply. This is a very popular but false notion. Minerals
cannot easily be put in circulation or taken out of circulation to
match the size of the economy. This is why we had to get off the gold
and silver standards. As I just got done explaining a little while
ago, the federal reserve puts money into circulation (and takes it out)
with the intent to manipulate the economy in order to keep the dollar's
value stable and consistant. I believe that the Fed's target inflation
rate is 2-3 percent per year. So far it has been working well.
>
> >> > The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
> >> > private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to
> >> > pay the interest to the banks. This has been going on for nearly a
> >> > hundred years and it's just stealing from the public and giving to
> >> > the bankers. JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY.
> >>
> > Last time I looked, the federal reserve was a private corporation
> > wholly owned by the United States Government like the post office.
>
> Like I said, I don't think so.
>
I do think so. If I find some reputable sources to post I will be
happy to do so.
> > The profits from loaning out the newly printed money is used to pay
> > expenses and the rest is turned into the federal treasury. It was made
> > into a private corporation with one goal of stabilizing the value of
> > the dollar by manipulating the money supply and interest rates. Because
> > its a private corporation it is much more immune to political meddling.
>
> Like I said...
Feel free to post any credible sources that you have found that tell a
different story.
Jim Alder
> Jim Alder wrote:
>> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Jim Alder wrote:
>> >
>> >> ... I believe. The Federal
>> >> Reserve is only slightly more a part of the government than
>> >> is Federal Express.
>> >
>> > Federal Express is a "for profit" corporation owned by private
>> > citizens.
>>
>> That's true.
>>
>> > The Federal Reserve is a non profit corporation that is
>> > owned by the federal government.
>>
>> Owned by? I'd need to see proof of that.
>
> Better yet, you show us proof that someone else, some private citizen,
> owns the federal reserve.
Better for you, maybe. But here you go.
The Federal Reserve System is an "independent entity within the
government". It subjects itself to laws such as the Freedom of
Information Act and the Privacy Act which cover Federal
agencies, not private entities. However, its decisions do not
have to be ratified by the President or anyone else in the
executive or legislative branches of government, it does not
receive funding appropriated by the Congress, and the terms of
the members of the Board of Governors span multiple
presidential and congressional terms.
In the 1982 case Lewis v. United States, the Ninth Circuit
Federal Court of Appeals stated that the "Federal reserve banks
are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of a Federal
Torts Claims Act, but are independent, privately owned and
locally controlled corporations."
Wikipedia under "Federal Reserve"
Notice that the Fed "subjects itself" to laws such as the
FOIA? If they were part of the government, they would have no
choice in the matter.
>> > Both have goals spelled out in their charters of incorporation.
>> > Federal Express' goal is to make maximum profits for its stock
>> > holders...
>>
>> Probably true.
>>
>> > ... and the Federal Reserve's goal is to stabilize the money
>> > supply regardless of how much income that generates in
>> > interest on loans.
>>
>> Considering that they replaced the gold and silver standards, one
>> has to wonder if their real goal was ever 'stability.'
>
> You are drowning in the myth that minerals provide stability as a form
> of money supply. This is a very popular but false notion.
Actually it's none of the above, not myth, notion nor false.
It worked pretty well for 140 years or so. The presumption that
the government can manipulate currency in such a way as to
'stabilize' the economy seems more of a mythical notion to me.
The government seems unable to stabilize itself, let alone a
force of nature like the economy.
> Minerals cannot easily be put in circulation or taken out of
> circulation to match the size of the economy.
Exactly. Instead gold and silver define the 'size' of the
economy. Or rather, the value of the 'currency.' The fact that
the government cannot produce new currency out of thin air is
what stabilizes it.
> This is why we had to get off the gold
> and silver standards. As I just got done explaining a little while
> ago, the federal reserve puts money into circulation (and takes it out)
> with the intent to manipulate the economy in order to keep the dollar's
> value stable and consistant. I believe that the Fed's target inflation
> rate is 2-3 percent per year. So far it has been working well.
It has, has it?
>> >> > The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
>> >> > private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to
>> >> > pay the interest to the banks. This has been going on for nearly
>> >> > a hundred years and it's just stealing from the public and giving
>> >> > to the bankers. JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY.
>> >>
>> > Last time I looked, the federal reserve was a private corporation
>> > wholly owned by the United States Government like the post office.
>>
>> Like I said, I don't think so.
>>
> I do think so. If I find some reputable sources to post I will be
> happy to do so.
The United States Postal Service (USPS) is the United States
government-owned corporation responsible for providing postal
service in the United States; it is generally referred to
within the United States as "the post office."
The postal service was created under Benjamin Franklin on July
26, 1775 by decree of the Second Continental Congress. Based on
a clause in the United States Constitution empowering Congress
"To establish Post Offices and post Roads," it became the Post
Office Department in 1792.
Ibid
See the difference? Clearly the post office is 'owned' by the
US government and constitutionally valid. Search for the word
'ownership' in the Federal Reserve definition and you will see
even they couldn't really clarify it.
>> > The profits from loaning out the newly printed money is used to pay
>> > expenses and the rest is turned into the federal treasury. It was
>> > made into a private corporation with one goal of stabilizing the
>> > value of the dollar by manipulating the money supply and interest
>> > rates. Because its a private corporation it is much more immune to
>> > political meddling.
>>
>> Like I said...
>
> Feel free to post any credible sources that you have found that tell a
> different story.
Done and did.
Mark Fox
Jim Alder wrote:
> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > Jim Alder wrote:
> >> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > ... and the Federal Reserve's goal is to stabilize the money
> >> > supply regardless of how much income that generates in
> >> > interest on loans.
> >>
> >> Considering that they replaced the gold and silver standards, one
> >> has to wonder if their real goal was ever 'stability.'
> >
> > You are drowning in the myth that minerals provide stability as a form
> > of money supply. This is a very popular but false notion.
>
> Actually it's none of the above, not myth, notion nor false.
> It worked pretty well for 140 years or so. The presumption that
> the government can manipulate currency in such a way as to
> 'stabilize' the economy seems more of a mythical notion to me.
> The government seems unable to stabilize itself, let alone a
> force of nature like the economy.
>
> > Minerals cannot easily be put in circulation or taken out of
> > circulation to match the size of the economy.
>
> Exactly. Instead gold and silver define the 'size' of the
> economy.
No!
The value of all goods and services created define the size of the
economy. Limited availability of Gold and Silver will limit the ability
of the economy to expand freely.
Or rather, the value of the 'currency.' The fact that
> the government cannot produce new currency out of thin air is
> what stabilizes it.
>
> > This is why we had to get off the gold
> > and silver standards. As I just got done explaining a little while
> > ago, the federal reserve puts money into circulation (and takes it out)
> > with the intent to manipulate the economy in order to keep the dollar's
> > value stable and consistant. I believe that the Fed's target inflation
> > rate is 2-3 percent per year. So far it has been working well.
>
> It has, has it?
Yes, quite well indeed. In fact it works so well that we should do the
same thing with crude oil. There should be an oil reserve board that
buys and sells oil with the intention of stabilizing the price. Right
now the price of crude is soaring out of control causing hardships for
consumers and it will eventually crash causing tremendous hardships for
oil producers. Stable prices are always best. This has been proven
time and time again.
>
> >> >> > The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
> >> >> > private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to
> >> >> > pay the interest to the banks. This has been going on for nearly
> >> >> > a hundred years and it's just stealing from the public and giving
> >> >> > to the bankers. JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY.
> >> >>
> >> > Last time I looked, the federal reserve was a private corporation
> >> > wholly owned by the United States Government like the post office.
> >>
> >> Like I said, I don't think so.
> >>
> > I do think so. If I find some reputable sources to post I will be
> > happy to do so.
>
> The United States Postal Service (USPS) is the United States
> government-owned corporation responsible for providing postal
> service in the United States; it is generally referred to
> within the United States as "the post office."
>
> The postal service was created under Benjamin Franklin on July
> 26, 1775 by decree of the Second Continental Congress. Based on
> a clause in the United States Constitution empowering Congress
> "To establish Post Offices and post Roads," it became the Post
> Office Department in 1792.
>
> Ibid
>
> See the difference? Clearly the post office is 'owned' by the
> US government and constitutionally valid. Search for the word
> 'ownership' in the Federal Reserve definition and you will see
> even they couldn't really clarify it.
You failed to notice that On August 12, 1970, President Nixon signed
Public Law 91-375 and the Post Office Department was transformed into
the United States Postal Service, an independent establishment of the
executive branch of the Government of the United States very similar to
the Federal Reserve.
http://www.usps.com/history/history/his3.htm#REORG
>
> >> > The profits from loaning out the newly printed money is used to pay
> >> > expenses and the rest is turned into the federal treasury. It was
> >> > made into a private corporation with one goal of stabilizing the
> >> > value of the dollar by manipulating the money supply and interest
> >> > rates. Because its a private corporation it is much more immune to
> >> > political meddling.
> >>
> >> Like I said...
> >
> > Feel free to post any credible sources that you have found that tell a
> > different story.
>
> Done and did.
>
You didn't post all the information about the Federal Reserve found at
wikipedia:
Legal Status and Position in Government
The Federal Reserve System is an "independent entity within the
government". It subjects itself to laws such as the Freedom of
Information Act and the Privacy Act which cover Federal agencies, not
private entities. However, its decisions do not have to be ratified by
the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branches
of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by the
Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span
multiple presidential and congressional terms. Once a member of the
Board of Governors is appointed by the president, he or she can be as
independent as a U.S. Supreme Court judge, though the term is shorter.
In the 1982 case Lewis v. United States, the Ninth Circuit Federal
Court of Appeals stated that the "Federal reserve banks are not federal
instrumentalities for purposes of a Federal Torts Claims Act, but are
independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations." The
opinion also stated that "the Reserve Banks have properly been held to
be federal instrumentalities for some purposes."
Influence of Government
The Federal Reserve is financially independent because it runs a
surplus, due in part to its ownership of government bonds. In fact, it
returns billions of dollars to the government each year. However, the
Fed is still subject to oversight by the Congress, which periodically
reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute.
To further communication with Congress, the Fed delivers a report to
both houses semiannually. Its independence from the executive branch
was confirmed by the the 1951 Accord. In general, the Federal Reserve
must work within the framework of the overall objectives of economic
and financial policy established by the government.
Jim Alder
> Jim Alder wrote:
>> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> > Jim Alder wrote:
>> >> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > ... and the Federal Reserve's goal is to stabilize the money
>> >> > supply regardless of how much income that generates in
>> >> > interest on loans.
>> >>
>> >> Considering that they replaced the gold and silver standards,
>> >> one has to wonder if their real goal was ever 'stability.'
>> >
>> > You are drowning in the myth that minerals provide stability as a
>> > form of money supply. This is a very popular but false notion.
>>
>> Actually it's none of the above, not myth, notion nor false.
>> It worked pretty well for 140 years or so. The presumption that
>> the government can manipulate currency in such a way as to
>> 'stabilize' the economy seems more of a mythical notion to me.
>> The government seems unable to stabilize itself, let alone a
>> force of nature like the economy.
>>
>> > Minerals cannot easily be put in circulation or taken out of
>> > circulation to match the size of the economy.
>>
>> Exactly. Instead gold and silver define the 'size' of the
>> economy.
>
> No!
>
> The value of all goods and services created define the size of the
> economy.
No, that's the GNP. Oh, sorry, I mean...
No!
That's the GNP.
> Limited availability of Gold and Silver will limit the ability
> of the economy to expand freely.
Nope, it just lowers the prices.
>> Or rather, the value of the 'currency.' The fact that the
>> government cannot produce new currency out of thin air is
>> what stabilizes it.
>>
>> > This is why we had to get off the gold
>> > and silver standards. As I just got done explaining a little while
>> > ago, the federal reserve puts money into circulation (and takes it
>> > out) with the intent to manipulate the economy in order to keep the
>> > dollar's value stable and consistant. I believe that the Fed's
>> > target inflation rate is 2-3 percent per year. So far it has been
>> > working well.
>>
>> It has, has it?
>
> Yes, quite well indeed. In fact it works so well that we should do the
> same thing with crude oil. There should be an oil reserve board that
> buys and sells oil with the intention of stabilizing the price.
There is one. It's called OPEC.
> Right now the price of crude is soaring out of control...
Not really. It's just out of OUR control.
> ...causing hardships for
I failed to notice it? Could that be because it was on a
different website and didn't say that anyway?
>> >> > The profits from loaning out the newly printed money is used to
>> >> > pay expenses and the rest is turned into the federal treasury.
>> >> > It was made into a private corporation with one goal of
>> >> > stabilizing the value of the dollar by manipulating the money
>> >> > supply and interest rates. Because its a private corporation it
>> >> > is much more immune to political meddling.
>> >>
>> >> Like I said...
>> >
>> > Feel free to post any credible sources that you have found that tell
>> > a different story.
>>
>> Done and did.
>>
> You didn't post all the information about the Federal Reserve found at
> wikipedia:
I didn't feel the need, since i told you where it could be
found. I just posted the revelant passages as I saw them. And
since you deleted it from the post above rather than reply to
it, I guess I did more than necessary.
--
Mark Fox
Jim Alder wrote:
> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1124589823.8...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Jim Alder wrote:
> >> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> > Jim Alder wrote:
> >> >> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > ... and the Federal Reserve's goal is to stabilize the money
> >> >> > supply regardless of how much income that generates in
> >> >> > interest on loans.
> >> >>
> >> >> Considering that they replaced the gold and silver standards,
> >> >> one has to wonder if their real goal was ever 'stability.'
> >> >
> >> > You are drowning in the myth that minerals provide stability as a
> >> > form of money supply. This is a very popular but false notion.
> >>
> >> Actually it's none of the above, not myth, notion nor false.
Yes, it as a myth and it is false. A gold standard actually harms an
economy. It does not stabilize it.
> >> It worked pretty well for 140 years or so.
That's because most people on the planet were so poor as to be near
starvation 100 years ago. The average American lives better today than
the royal families did 200 years ago. That kind of universal wealth
generation takes a huge economy and gold just can't keep up.
> >> The presumption that
> >> the government can manipulate currency in such a way as to
> >> 'stabilize' the economy seems more of a mythical notion to me.
> >> The government seems unable to stabilize itself, let alone a
> >> force of nature like the economy.
> >>
> >> > Minerals cannot easily be put in circulation or taken out of
> >> > circulation to match the size of the economy.
> >>
> >> Exactly. Instead gold and silver define the 'size' of the
> >> economy.
> >
> > No!
> >
> > The value of all goods and services created define the size of the
> > economy.
>
> No, that's the GNP.
Gosh, until this ridiculous utterance from you, I assumed that you were
a reasonably intelligent adult. For all the slow children on the news
group: The GNP/GDP is a measure of the size of the economy.
>
> > Limited availability of Gold and Silver will limit the ability
> > of the economy to expand freely.
>
> Nope, it just lowers the prices.
No! When Gold and Silver are limited in supply then their price rises
causing people to invest in Gold and Silver instead of producing goods
and services that expand the economy. Because the Fed expands the money
supply to keep up with the expansion of the economy the value of a
dollar stays reasonably constant thus causing people to focus on the
goods and services created and consumed instead of worrying about the
value of the dollar.
The dollar is just a tool for efficient exchange of goods and services.
It should not become an item of investment value in itself.
>
> >> Or rather, the value of the 'currency.' The fact that the
> >> government cannot produce new currency out of thin air is
> >> what stabilizes it.
No! If a government can't produce new currency to keep pace with the
expansion of the economy then the economy will be crippled. People
won't be able to buy and sell because they can't get their hands on
enough gold and silver to make the exchange without the changing value
of the gold and silver becoming a factor in the transaction.
In the early 1930's the banks didn't have enough cash to supply to
their account holders and there were runs on the banks and bank
holidays. The result was people hiding anything they had remaining of
perceived value under their mattresses and not using it to buy what
they needed resulting in the collapse of the economy and the great
depression.
> >>
> >> > This is why we had to get off the gold
> >> > and silver standards. As I just got done explaining a little while
> >> > ago, the federal reserve puts money into circulation (and takes it
> >> > out) with the intent to manipulate the economy in order to keep the
> >> > dollar's value stable and consistent. I believe that the Fed's
> >> > target inflation rate is 2-3 percent per year. So far it has been
> >> > working well.
> >>
> >> It has, has it?
> >
> > Yes, quite well indeed. In fact it works so well that we should do the
> > same thing with crude oil. There should be an oil reserve board that
> > buys and sells oil with the intention of stabilizing the price.
>
> There is one. It's called OPEC.
This is ridiculously foolish statement number 2.
OPEC is a group of exporting countries. Their goal is not to stabilize
the value of crude oil but to advance the political and economic
interests of the member exporting countries. Are you really this dumb?
>
> > Right now the price of crude is soaring out of control...
>
> Not really. It's just out of OUR control.
>
> > ...causing hardships for
> > consumers and it will eventually crash causing tremendous hardships for
> > oil producers. Stable prices are always best. This has been proven
> > time and time again.
I see that you ignored the future problem for OPEC when the price of
oil crashes - and it will indeed crash as it has before. As I ponder
your complete lack of ability to address this problem it becomes
obvious to the reader as to who you really are. You are a guy who is
only interested in his own shallow short term selfish interests and you
are unable to comprehend the world's economy and the consequences to
future goods and services created within it.
The post office is what it is regardless of whether or not you are able
to discover or present all the facts.
>
> >> >> > The profits from loaning out the newly printed money is used to
> >> >> > pay expenses and the rest is turned into the federal treasury.
> >> >> > It was made into a private corporation with one goal of
> >> >> > stabilizing the value of the dollar by manipulating the money
> >> >> > supply and interest rates. Because its a private corporation it
> >> >> > is much more immune to political meddling.
> >> >>
> >> >> Like I said...
> >> >
> >> > Feel free to post any credible sources that you have found that tell
> >> > a different story.
> >>
> >> Done and did.
> >>
> > You didn't post all the information about the Federal Reserve found at
> > wikipedia:
>
> I didn't feel the need, since i told you where it could be
> found. I just posted the revelant passages as I saw them. And
> since you deleted it from the post above rather than reply to
> it, I guess I did more than necessary.
You posted your findings and I posted what you chose to ignore.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve
You whine and complain that I didn't comment directly on your source
material but yet I notice that you didn't comment on mine either. This
is all part of your shallow and dubious behavior. Its not a problem
because the readers can plainly see from my sources that the Federal
Reserve is indeed a private corporation created by Congress and
answerable to Congress and returning all its profits back to the
federal treasury yet you try to claim that the government doesn't "own"
the Fed because you couldn't find the word "own" on any web sites. All
this proves is that you don't comprehend what it means to "own"
something.
Jim Alder
>
> Jim Alder wrote:
>> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:1124589823.8...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Jim Alder wrote:
>> >> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> >> > Jim Alder wrote:
>> >> >> "Mark Fox" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ... and the Federal Reserve's goal is to stabilize the money
>> >> >> > supply regardless of how much income that generates in
>> >> >> > interest on loans.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Considering that they replaced the gold and silver standards,
>> >> >> one has to wonder if their real goal was ever 'stability.'
>> >> >
>> >> > You are drowning in the myth that minerals provide stability as a
>> >> > form of money supply. This is a very popular but false notion.
>> >>
>> >> Actually it's none of the above, not myth, notion nor false.
>
> Yes, it as a myth and it is false. A gold standard actually harms an
> economy. It does not stabilize it.
How DID we survive for 140 years with one, I wonder?
>> >> It worked pretty well for 140 years or so.
>
> That's because most people on the planet were so poor as to be near
> starvation 100 years ago. The average American lives better today than
> the royal families did 200 years ago. That kind of universal wealth
> generation takes a huge economy and gold just can't keep up.
>
>
>> >> The presumption that
>> >> the government can manipulate currency in such a way as to
>> >> 'stabilize' the economy seems more of a mythical notion to me.
>> >> The government seems unable to stabilize itself, let alone a
>> >> force of nature like the economy.
>> >>
>> >> > Minerals cannot easily be put in circulation or taken out of
>> >> > circulation to match the size of the economy.
>> >>
>> >> Exactly. Instead gold and silver define the 'size' of the
>> >> economy.
>> >
>> > No!
>> >
>> > The value of all goods and services created define the size of the
>> > economy.
>>
>> No, that's the GNP.
>
> Gosh, until this ridiculous utterance from you, I assumed that you were
> a reasonably intelligent adult. For all the slow children on the news
> group: The GNP/GDP is a measure of the size of the economy.
Oh, well. It was interesting while it lasted.
"Yeah added that Opec (Organisation of Petroleum Countries),
which contributes almost 40% of global oil supply, would
attempt to stabilise oil prices."
http://tinyurl.com/aaqq2
"The energy watchdog applauded Opec's efforts to stabilise
markets by boosting production
http://tinyurl.com/bj642