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Vandar
Nov 16, 2012, 9:21:56 PM11/16/12
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Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:57:30 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
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>>On Nov 16, 6:57 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
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>>>On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:58:39 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>FEMA may seek flood insurance bailout after Sandy
>>>
>>>Maybe we could use some of the billions we give to foriegn oil
>>>companies in subsidies?
>>
>>Maybe we could give it back to the taxpayer. Well, at least the one's
>>that pay.
>
>
> EVERYONE Pays taxes you stupid halfwit.
>
> You can't find any soul in America who buys something that does not.
If I give you $100 to go buy something that has a sales tax, which one
of us paid the tax?
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:57:30 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
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>
>>On Nov 16, 6:57 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:58:39 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>FEMA may seek flood insurance bailout after Sandy
>>>
>>>Maybe we could use some of the billions we give to foriegn oil
>>>companies in subsidies?
>>
>>Maybe we could give it back to the taxpayer. Well, at least the one's
>>that pay.
>
>
> EVERYONE Pays taxes you stupid halfwit.
>
> You can't find any soul in America who buys something that does not.
If I give you $100 to go buy something that has a sales tax, which one
of us paid the tax?
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Gary DW
Nov 17, 2012, 12:24:22 AM11/17/12
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In article <k86sc7$b35$2...@news.albasani.net>, Vandar
says...
This is how a Randoid mind actually thinks.
Like one guy gets a direct payment from him when he pays
taxes.
No wonder they keep losing election after election after
election...
They no clue how a society actually works.
Psssttt... we are all in this TOGETHER.
--
"[The] debt explosion has resulted not from big spending
by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's
embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious
doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from
tax cuts."
-Reagan budget chief David Stockman
says...
Like one guy gets a direct payment from him when he pays
taxes.
No wonder they keep losing election after election after
election...
They no clue how a society actually works.
Psssttt... we are all in this TOGETHER.
--
"[The] debt explosion has resulted not from big spending
by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's
embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious
doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from
tax cuts."
-Reagan budget chief David Stockman
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Vandar
Nov 17, 2012, 12:07:11 PM11/17/12
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Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
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> If you make $100---you must have paid tax on it
Not true.
> If you give it to me (theoretically) I should have to declare that on
> my taxes.
Consider it a gift that falls under the annual exclusion.
> So you figure it out.
*I* am paying the tax.
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:21:56 -0500, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>EVERYONE Pays taxes you stupid halfwit.
>>>
>>>You can't find any soul in America who buys something that does not.
>>
>>If I give you $100 to go buy something that has a sales tax, which one
>>of us paid the tax?
>
>
> Depends.
>
>
>>>EVERYONE Pays taxes you stupid halfwit.
>>>
>>>You can't find any soul in America who buys something that does not.
>>
>>If I give you $100 to go buy something that has a sales tax, which one
>>of us paid the tax?
>
>
>
> If you make $100---you must have paid tax on it
Not true.
> If you give it to me (theoretically) I should have to declare that on
> my taxes.
Consider it a gift that falls under the annual exclusion.
> So you figure it out.
*I* am paying the tax.
Gary DW
Nov 17, 2012, 12:21:56 PM11/17/12
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In article <416a7ddb-2ced-4713-850a-8d993798f151
@v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, Yak says...
> > > If I give you $100 to go buy something that has a sales tax, which one
> > > of us paid the tax?
> >
> > This is how a Randoid mind actually thinks.
> >
> > Like one guy gets a direct payment from him when he pays
> > taxes.
> >
> > No wonder they keep losing election after election after
> > election...
> >
> > They no clue how a society actually works.
> >
> > Psssttt... we are all in this TOGETHER.
>
> If we are all in this together then why do half get a free ride?
>
We've gone through this... this is a rightie propaganda
myth.
Its more like 15% that don't actually do any work, IIRC.
And yes, a great society takes care of these people too.
People like you just want to kill them, ignore them, or
toss them all in debtor prisons... none of which does a
society any good.
Once you morons figure this out, maybe you can get with
the program and stop losing elections!
If not... why should the rest of us normal people care?
33% does not cotrol much agenda.
@v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, Yak says...
> > > If I give you $100 to go buy something that has a sales tax, which one
> > > of us paid the tax?
> >
> > This is how a Randoid mind actually thinks.
> >
> > Like one guy gets a direct payment from him when he pays
> > taxes.
> >
> > No wonder they keep losing election after election after
> > election...
> >
> > They no clue how a society actually works.
> >
> > Psssttt... we are all in this TOGETHER.
>
>
We've gone through this... this is a rightie propaganda
myth.
Its more like 15% that don't actually do any work, IIRC.
And yes, a great society takes care of these people too.
People like you just want to kill them, ignore them, or
toss them all in debtor prisons... none of which does a
society any good.
Once you morons figure this out, maybe you can get with
the program and stop losing elections!
If not... why should the rest of us normal people care?
33% does not cotrol much agenda.
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FirstPost
Nov 17, 2012, 12:47:47 PM11/17/12
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:37:58 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
>On Nov 17, 12:21�pm, Gary DW <Dw2spike3...@sio.midco.net> wrote:
>> In article <416a7ddb-2ced-4713-850a-8d993798f151
>> @v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, Yak says...
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> > > > If I give you $100 to go buy something that has a sales tax, which one
>> > > > of us paid the tax?
>>
>> > > This is how a Randoid mind actually thinks.
>>
>> > > Like one guy gets a direct payment from him when he pays
>> > > taxes.
>>
>> > > No wonder they keep losing election after election after
>> > > election...
>>
>> > > They no clue how a society actually works.
>>
>> > > Psssttt... we are all in this TOGETHER.
>>
>> > If we are all in this together then why do half get a free ride?
>>
>> We've gone through this... this is a rightie propaganda
>> myth.
>>
>> Its more like 15% that don't actually do any work, IIRC.
>
>Who said anything about work? Go look at the latest fed income tax
>numbers for what I'm talking about.
From his own imagination because he has no real definitive argument.
So he has to try to portray you as some kind of evil boogeyman using
nothing but made up insults.
If stupid assed brain dead liberals were correct in all of their
little descriptions of conservatives then there wouldn't be any
liberals left as they would have all been killed off decades ago.
>On Nov 17, 12:21�pm, Gary DW <Dw2spike3...@sio.midco.net> wrote:
>> In article <416a7ddb-2ced-4713-850a-8d993798f151
>> @v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, Yak says...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > > > If I give you $100 to go buy something that has a sales tax, which one
>> > > > of us paid the tax?
>>
>> > > This is how a Randoid mind actually thinks.
>>
>> > > Like one guy gets a direct payment from him when he pays
>> > > taxes.
>>
>> > > No wonder they keep losing election after election after
>> > > election...
>>
>> > > They no clue how a society actually works.
>>
>> > > Psssttt... we are all in this TOGETHER.
>>
>> > If we are all in this together then why do half get a free ride?
>>
>> We've gone through this... this is a rightie propaganda
>> myth.
>>
>> Its more like 15% that don't actually do any work, IIRC.
>
>numbers for what I'm talking about.
>
>>
>> And yes, a great society takes care of these people too.
>>
>> People like you just want to kill them, ignore them, or
>> toss them all in debtor prisons... none of which does a
>> society any good.
>
>Where do you come up with this nonsense?
>>
>> And yes, a great society takes care of these people too.
>>
>> People like you just want to kill them, ignore them, or
>> toss them all in debtor prisons... none of which does a
>> society any good.
>
From his own imagination because he has no real definitive argument.
So he has to try to portray you as some kind of evil boogeyman using
nothing but made up insults.
If stupid assed brain dead liberals were correct in all of their
little descriptions of conservatives then there wouldn't be any
liberals left as they would have all been killed off decades ago.
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Vandar
Nov 17, 2012, 2:50:16 PM11/17/12
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Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:07:11 -0500, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>If you make $100---you must have paid tax on it
>>
>>Not true.
>
>
>
>>>If you give it to me (theoretically) I should have to declare that on
>>>my taxes.
>>
>>Consider it a gift that falls under the annual exclusion.
>
>
> Setting up silly scenarios only makes you look more stupid, FandarLoon
Let me guess: You have no idea what the annual exclusion is.
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:07:11 -0500, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>If you make $100---you must have paid tax on it
>>
>>Not true.
>
>
>
>>>If you give it to me (theoretically) I should have to declare that on
>>>my taxes.
>>
>>Consider it a gift that falls under the annual exclusion.
>
>
Let me guess: You have no idea what the annual exclusion is.
Christopher Helms
Nov 17, 2012, 3:01:04 PM11/17/12
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On Nov 16, 6:57 pm, Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
floor of the Senate that since FICA taxes were being spent on
literally everything in the world except the Social Security they were
supposedly being spent on, maybe it would be better for the citizenry
if Congress just gave the money back to them. He was practically
laughed out into the street for that little foray into common sense.
"We have two income taxes in America. One of them is masquerading as a
retirement fund."
(I can't remember who said that)
> On Nov 16, 6:57 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:58:39 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
> > >FEMA may seek flood insurance bailout after Sandy
>
> > Maybe we could use some of the billions we give to foriegn oil
> > companies in subsidies?
>
> Maybe we could give it back to the taxpayer. Well, at least the one's
> that pay.
Once upon a time, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan suggested on the
>
> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:58:39 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
> > >FEMA may seek flood insurance bailout after Sandy
>
> > Maybe we could use some of the billions we give to foriegn oil
> > companies in subsidies?
>
> Maybe we could give it back to the taxpayer. Well, at least the one's
> that pay.
floor of the Senate that since FICA taxes were being spent on
literally everything in the world except the Social Security they were
supposedly being spent on, maybe it would be better for the citizenry
if Congress just gave the money back to them. He was practically
laughed out into the street for that little foray into common sense.
"We have two income taxes in America. One of them is masquerading as a
retirement fund."
(I can't remember who said that)
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Vandar
Nov 18, 2012, 9:46:54 AM11/18/12
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Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:50:16 -0500, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Setting up silly scenarios only makes you look more stupid, FandarLoon
>>
>>Let me guess: You have no idea what the annual exclusion is.
>
>
> Let ME guess
>
> You don't have a clue about what "burden" means---unless it's a faux
> snooze regurgitation?
>
> Anyone in a poverty level situation has a monumental tax
> burden---taking nearly 100% of anything above a living income. The
> "benefits" to that level of people are ethically and morally demanded
> in any civilized society
Those that are classified as poverty level do not have a monumental tax
burden.
It's a mere 10%. When you factor in deductions, almost all of them will
get the money back. There are even some people out there who make money
when filing taxes. Those people are not the wealthy.
> Anyone in the upper 2 Income Tiers---have amost NO burden---the taxes
> they pay and the use of the tax code make that almost
> negligible---even tho the monetary amount it large. It is
> not---compared to their accumulated wealth and income manipulations.
So? People that have money tend to know how the money works. How much of
other people's money do you think should be confiscated in order to be
"fair"?
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:50:16 -0500, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Setting up silly scenarios only makes you look more stupid, FandarLoon
>>
>>Let me guess: You have no idea what the annual exclusion is.
>
>
>
> You don't have a clue about what "burden" means---unless it's a faux
> snooze regurgitation?
>
> Anyone in a poverty level situation has a monumental tax
> burden---taking nearly 100% of anything above a living income. The
> "benefits" to that level of people are ethically and morally demanded
> in any civilized society
Those that are classified as poverty level do not have a monumental tax
burden.
It's a mere 10%. When you factor in deductions, almost all of them will
get the money back. There are even some people out there who make money
when filing taxes. Those people are not the wealthy.
> Anyone in the upper 2 Income Tiers---have amost NO burden---the taxes
> they pay and the use of the tax code make that almost
> negligible---even tho the monetary amount it large. It is
> not---compared to their accumulated wealth and income manipulations.
So? People that have money tend to know how the money works. How much of
other people's money do you think should be confiscated in order to be
"fair"?
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