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GOP Paralyzed By Brilliant Obama Maneuver

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Bradley K. Sherman

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Jun 19, 2012, 10:23:33 AM6/19/12
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Be sure to see the hilarious video (2:10) that accompanies
this article:
|
| Mitt Romney and the Republicans have found a number of
| creative ways to side-step the question, "Will you repeal
| Obama's immigration order to grant temporary relief from
| deportation to the children of illegal immigrants?" Check
| out the highlight reel above, and keep in mind: this is
| only from Monday morning, on a single network!
|
| Why is the GOP evading? Perhaps because the future of their
| party's electability is at stake. According to the 2010
| census, the Hispanic population makes up 16.3% of the
| country's population. That's a 43% increase since the
| previous census in 2000, making Hispanics not only the
| nation's largest minority group, but also its
| fastest-growing one.
| ...
<http://leanforward.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/18/12287057-will-you-repeal-it-or-not-republicans-wont-answer-the-immigration-question?lite>

--bks

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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Jun 19, 2012, 10:29:02 AM6/19/12
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> <http://leanforward.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/18/12287057-will-you-r...>
>
>     --bks

So you think letting 800,000+ illegal beaners have complete amnesty
for political reasons is a "brilliant maneuver"?? WTF do you think his
"brilliant manuever" will do the already sky high unemployment rate of
high school age kids and blacks?

Bradley K. Sherman

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Jun 19, 2012, 10:39:35 AM6/19/12
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E <burto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jun 19, 9:23 am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>> Be sure to see the hilarious video (2:10) that accompanies
>> this article:
>>  |
>>  | Mitt Romney and the Republicans have found a number of
>>  | creative ways to side-step the question, "Will you repeal
>>  | Obama's immigration order to grant temporary relief from
>>  | deportation to the children of illegal immigrants?" Check
>>  | out the highlight reel above, and keep in mind: this is
>>  | only from Monday morning, on a single network!
>>  | ...
>> <http://leanforward.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/18/12287057-will-you-r...>
>
>So you think letting 800,000+ illegal beaners have complete amnesty
>for political reasons is a "brilliant maneuver"?? WTF do you think his
>"brilliant manuever" will do the already sky high unemployment rate of
>high school age kids and blacks?

It's clearly a brilliant maneuver! Even GOP strategists are
saying so:
|
| GOP strategist: Republicans were caught with their pants
| down' on immigration
| ...
| "They should not have been caught with their pants down,"
| Rollins said of Republicans, adding that they were caught
| "flat-footed" by the announcement. "They needed to be
| better prepared."
| ...
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/gop-strategist-republicans-were-caught-with-their-pants-down-on-immigration/2012/06/18/gJQAJ94blV_blog.html>

--bks

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Bradley K. Sherman

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Jun 19, 2012, 10:51:28 AM6/19/12
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Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:

>>  | GOP strategist: Republicans were caught with their pants
>>  | down' on immigration
> ...
>Brilliant? Not really. Shameless? Pretty much.

Absolutely brilliant:
|
| In politics, when the going gets tough, the tough have to
| get very, very smart.
|
| After days of bad news, bumbles and bobbles, Barack Obama
| got smart last week. In fact, he got downright brilliant.
|
<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77554.html>

--bks

wy

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Jun 19, 2012, 11:03:07 AM6/19/12
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On Jun 19, 10:43 am, Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 10:39 am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/gop-strategist-rep...>
>
> >     --bks
>
> Brilliant?  Not really.  Shameless?  Pretty much.

Yeah, but wouldn't it be funny if Obama got re-elected thanks to the
Latino vote tipping him over the edge in a close race? That's where
the brilliance would come in.

Sir Ray

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Jun 19, 2012, 11:02:54 AM6/19/12
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On Jun 19, 10:43 am, Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
> Brilliant?  Not really.  Shameless?  Pretty much.
So far, survey says -- Brillant:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57455918-503544/most-likely-voters-approve-of-obamas-new-immigration-policy-poll-shows/
"Sixty-four percent of likely voters surveyed by Bloomberg said they
agreed with the new policy that Mr. Obama announced last Friday, while
30 percent disagreed. Similarly, 66 percent of independents supported
the policy. Democrats and Republicans came down along partisan lines:
56 percent of Republicans opposed the policy change, while 86 percent
of Democrats supported "

Hey, did Obama support the DREAM act prior to last week?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act
"Less than a month later, on November 16 [2010], President Barack
Obama and top Democrats pledged to introduce the Dream Act into the
House by November 29."
" President Obama supported the bill as one of his efforts to reform
the US immigration system. [2011]"
So the answer is - not Shameless, he has supported this for years.

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Bradley K. Sherman

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Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
>On Jun 19, 10:51 am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>> Yak  <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
>> >> | GOP strategist: Republicans were caught with their pants
>> >> | down' on immigration
>> > ...
>> >Brilliant?  Not really.  Shameless?  Pretty much.
>>
>> Absolutely brilliant:
>>  |
>>  | After days of bad news, bumbles and bobbles, Barack Obama
>>  | got smart last week. In fact, he got downright brilliant.
>>  |
>> <http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77554.html>
>
>Again, nothing really brilliant about pandering for votes. The
>question is, what is the next shameless vote buying act this menace
>concocts?

Har! Let me know when Etch-A-Sketch figures out what his position is.
|
| Obama's announcement Friday of a new immigration policy
| also enhanced his political position. Obama's announcement
| dominated the news just as Romney was starting a bus tour
| of small-town America that he hoped would show that he can
| connect with everyday people.
| ...
<http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/Ken-Walshs-Washington/2012/06/19/obama-adeptly-using-political-powers-of-presidency>

--bks

packratatlarge

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>
>     --bks

Asians have overtaken Hispanics in the U.S. demographics.

Again, Curious George is simply doing what previous Presidents have
done in an election year; pulling out all the stops. But when the
rhetoric clears, you have the inescapable one-two punch that will do
Curious George in; the economy and the health care mess, both of which
were self-inflicted wounds.

Bradley K. Sherman

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Jun 19, 2012, 11:16:21 AM6/19/12
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>Hey, did Obama support the DREAM act prior to last week?

You mean the one that the GOP killed in 2010? Facts and figures here:
<http://americasvoiceonline.org/press_releases/memo_to_jeb_bush_unfortunately_republicans_killed_dream_act_in_2010/>

|
| But if taking action on the immigration issue is good
| politics for Obama and the Democrats, then Republicans have
| only themselves to blame. The GOP has made a conscious
| decision to offer nativists and xenophobes a comfortable
| home where their extremist views go unchallenged. No one
| should be surprised if voters who think differently about
| immigration issues -- including some who are recent
| immigrants themselves -- feel unwelcome.
|
| Where is Mitt Romney on all of this, you ask? Excellent
| question. Former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's
| withering putdown in 2009 of David Cameron, the current
| prime minister, is perfect to describe Romney: "The more he
| talks, the less he actually says."
| ...
<http://posttrib.suntimes.com/opinions/13263699-474/robinson-romneys-unmade-mind-muddles-about-immigration.html>

--bks

Ramon F Herrera

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Jun 19, 2012, 11:34:30 AM6/19/12
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On Jun 19, 10:09 am, Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:

> Again, nothing really brilliant about pandering for votes.

Let's take a peek at "The Conservative's Dictionary", shall we?

Pander - verb : Any initiative that does not benefit me.

Crime - noun : Any transgression, however serious or benign, committed
by a person that I hate.

-Ramon

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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Jun 19, 2012, 11:52:03 AM6/19/12
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> the brilliance would come in.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

WTF would be "funny" about it foreigner??

Ramon F Herrera

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Jun 19, 2012, 11:36:12 AM6/19/12
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The following event took place a few weeks ago in Miami. This was
leaked to the NYT and others:

------------------------------------------
Lawrence O'Donnell, MSNBC:

"We now know what the secret Mitt Romney says at his $50,000 per
person fundraisers that the public Mitt Romney would never say. Romney
demonstrated some competence in campaign math. He told his audience
that president Obama's huge lead among Hispanic voters 'Spells doom
for us. We have to come up with some kind of Republican DREAM Act.
We HAVE TO GET Hispanics to vote for our party.'"
------------------------------------------

(Can you spell D-E-S-P-E-R-A-D-O-S?)

The following day, Marco Rubio got on his rear bottom and started to
work of the Republican DREAM Act which is EXACTLY the same as the one
mentioned by President Obama. Now the Rubio DREAM Act is dead in the
Rio Grande, and the Repubs are understandably pissed.

My Prez Obbie stole their wind...

-Ramon

ps: My compadre Ruben Navarrette (life-long, card-carrying Republican
who plans to be White House Press Secretary in the 2016-2020 Jeb Bush
Administration) wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/05/opinion/navarrette-dream-act/

So, when do we start impeachment proceedings against Rubio and the
intellectual author, Mitt "¿Cómo se dice Etch-a-Sketch en Español?"
Romney?

wy

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Jun 19, 2012, 12:00:56 PM6/19/12
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On Jun 19, 11:52 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey
Repugnants bawling their eyes out at being out-maneuvered, that's
what. I'm already cracking up.

First.Post

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"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
<burto...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:e5b789fd-ca20-4725...@m24g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
Wy thinks it would be funny because they have the delusion that if it
weren;t for the USA then canada would be the big dog on the block.
It's kinda like the little nerdy goof in high school that always believed
if it weren't for the Jocks and the rich kids that they would have a
cheerleader on their arm.

SOP for wy is if it's bad for the US then they are all for it.

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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> <http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/Ken-Walshs-Washington/2012/06/19/oba...>
>
>     --bks- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Let us know how Obama plans to dodge his responsibilty for the state
of the economy,high unemployment,$BILLIONS squandered on Green Energy
and $5 TRILLION more debt. I mean besides blaming Bush and the
"previous Administration".

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/06/romney-second-attack-obama-fine-economy/1

wy

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Jun 19, 2012, 10:49:07 AM6/19/12
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On Jun 19, 10:29 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey
Asi if Repugnants themselves really care about high schoolers and
blacks. They can't even bring themselves to care about their
unemployed parents, otherwise they would've passed Obama's jobs bill
long ago.

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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Jun 19, 2012, 12:08:14 PM6/19/12
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And in the "Progressive dictionary":

pander-crap: The ends justify the means

crime-smoke and mirrors: Blame Bush

corruption-bullshit- My slavering supporters don't care because I call
myself "black"

wy

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Jun 19, 2012, 12:16:50 PM6/19/12
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On Jun 19, 12:03 pm, "First.Post" <OccupierDumberThanD...@invalid.org>
wrote:
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
What's funny is that Canada already is the big dog on the block. Of
course, we have a different definition of what makes for a big dog,
but I'll take our definition over yours any day.


> It's kinda like the little nerdy goof in high school that always believed
> if it weren't for the Jocks and the rich kids that they would have a
> cheerleader on their arm.
>
> SOP for wy is if it's bad for the US then they are all for it.

SOP is if it's bad for the US, then Repugnants are all for it.

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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Jun 19, 2012, 12:00:44 PM6/19/12
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On Jun 19, 10:02 am, Sir Ray <waterboi5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 10:43 am, Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:> Brilliant?  Not really.  Shameless?  Pretty much.
>
> So far, survey says -- Brillant:http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57455918-503544/most-likely-vo...
> "Sixty-four percent of likely voters surveyed by Bloomberg said they
> agreed with the new policy that Mr. Obama announced last Friday, while
> 30 percent disagreed. Similarly, 66 percent of independents supported
> the policy. Democrats and Republicans came down along partisan lines:
> 56 percent of Republicans opposed the policy change, while 86 percent
> of Democrats supported "
>
> Hey, did Obama support the DREAM act prior to last week?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act
> "Less than a month later, on November 16 [2010], President Barack
> Obama and top Democrats pledged to introduce the Dream Act into the
> House by November 29."
> " President Obama supported the bill as one of his efforts to reform
> the US immigration system. [2011]"
> So the answer is - not Shameless, he has supported this for years.

So Obama(as usual) is talking out both sides of his mouth?

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-28/opinion/navarrette.dream.obama_1_immigration-law-illegal-immigrants-deporting-dreamers?_s=PM:OPINION


Obama's double talk on DREAM Act

It was something you don't see every day: the president of the United
States being lectured by a group of self-declared illegal immigrants
who were just out of puberty.

Is this a great country, or what?

This week, about a dozen undocumented high school students attended
the National Council of La Raza annual conference in Washington and
shouted truth to power by confronting the leader of the free world.

What lit the students' fuse was when Obama, in a luncheon speech,
insisted that he just doesn't have the power to stop the deportations
of so-called "DREAMers." The term refers to those undocumented
students who might be eligible for legal status under the proposed
DREAM Act if they attend college or join the military.


Obama's Executive Order allowing 800,000+ illegal invaders to become
"citizens" is a desperate attempt by Obama to distract the public's
attention from Romney ripping Obama over his absolute clusterfuck of
an economy. Good luck with that .

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/06/romney-second-attack-obama-fine-economy/1

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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> SOP is if it's bad for the US, then Repugnants are all for it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

How 'bout we ship 25 million illegal mexxkins,15 million black
deadbeat thug crackheads and 10 million+ white Whiggers to Canada and
see how well your country survives,idiot.

Sir Ray

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On Jun 19, 12:08 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey
http://www.mediaite.com/online/why-conservative-comedy-doesnt-work-and-likely-never-will/
"Why Conservative Comedy Doesn’t Work And Likely Never Will"

On Jun 19, 12:34 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey
rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How 'bout we ship 25 million illegal mexxkins,15 million black
> deadbeat thug crackheads and 10 million+ white Whiggers to Canada and
> see how well your country survives,idiot.
How 'bout we ship one (1) mentally ill, racist, immature,
developmentally disabled adult, who formerly posted as "The Phantom",
and who posts on this newsgroup from the computer at his group home
seemingly all hours of day and night, to Canada.
I understand the northern sections of Baffin Island have some empty
land he could be relocated to, although, alas I don't believe WiFi is
currently available there.

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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Jun 19, 2012, 1:53:40 PM6/19/12
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> what.  I'm already cracking up.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

We can tell by your posts you've cracked up you weird motherfucker.
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wy

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Jun 19, 2012, 2:26:25 PM6/19/12
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On Jun 19, 12:34 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey
I see. Ship out all your problems for everyone else to deal with
because you've become too impotent to solve them yourselves, huh? Oh,
how the can-do Great Nation has sunk.

Ramon F Herrera

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On Jun 19, 11:34 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey
rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How 'bout we ship 25 million illegal mexxkins,15 million black
> deadbeat thug crackheads and 10 million+ white Whiggers to
> Canada and see how well your country survives,idiot.

(a) The members of the undocumented workforce (while far from being an
ideal situation) are a PLUS for the economy.

(b) Less than 1% of America inhabitants are in jail.

(c) Less than 1% of the budget is spent on welfare.

(d) The crime rate in the US is extremely low.

(e) The Invisible Hand will decide who runs the country, gets the hot
chicks, etc. It has served us well for hundreds of thousands of years.

Ergo, it is time to find other excuses to justify your Hatred and
Fear.

-Ramon

brad herschel

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Jun 19, 2012, 3:31:59 PM6/19/12
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Bradley Sherman, Jew. Ramon Herrera, only his mammy knows for sure who
dumped that wad.

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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> how the can-do Great Nation has sunk.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yup. Sunk by uber-progressive,politically correct,America
hating,Marxist moonbats like Obama and the Mooche who are hellbent on
fundamentally transforming America into Zimbabwe West.

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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Jun 19, 2012, 3:55:38 PM6/19/12
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On Jun 19, 1:54 pm, Ramon F Herrera <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 11:34 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey
>
> rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  > How 'bout we ship 25 million illegal mexxkins,15 million black
>  > deadbeat thug crackheads and 10 million+ white Whiggers to
>  > Canada and see how well your country survives,idiot.
>
> (a) The members of the undocumented workforce (while far from being an
> ideal situation) are a PLUS for the economy.
>

How?? You mean by taking low paying jobs that unskilled American
citizens could use?

> (b) Less than 1% of America inhabitants are in jail.
>
HUH ??

> (c) Less than 1% of the budget is spent on welfare.
>

$1 dollar is too much.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317
Expensive Aliens: How Much Do Illegal Immigrants Really Cost?

illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers more than $100 billion each year.

States usually bear the brunt of the burden.

Arizona state treasurer Dean Martin says his state loses between $1.3
billion and $2.5 billion each year on illegal immigrants. In addition
to the fiscal costs of incarcerating and educating illegal immigrants
and their families, Arizona also faces a variety of other indirect
costs, says Martin, who favors Arizona's controversial new immigration
law.

Arizona has higher car insurance rates, he says, because illegal
immigrants who cross the border often steal cars that they use to move
further into the country. Undocumented workers are also more likely to
perpetrate hit-and-run accidents, he says, because they are afraid of
being deported if they are caught. Not only does this add to car
insurance rates, but it also stretches police resources, he says.

"Unfortunately we are the gateway for illegal immigration, and that
puts a bigger strain on our economy than other states," he says.



> (d) The crime rate in the US is extremely low.
>
http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_of_illegal_immigration_crime_summary.html


> (e) The Invisible Hand will decide who runs the country, gets the hot
> chicks, etc. It has served us well for hundreds of thousands of years.
>

"Us"? You have a frog in your pocket lawn boy?


> Ergo, it is time to find other excuses to justify your Hatred and
> Fear.
>
> -Ramon

You can paint that illegal immigration turd a bright pink and buff it
until it sparkles like a 50 carat diamond,but,it's STILL a turd lil'
fat Reconquista beaner.

First.Post

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Jun 19, 2012, 4:26:55 PM6/19/12
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"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
<burto...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> On Jun 19, 1:26 pm, wy <w...@myself.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 19, 12:34 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Jun 19, 11:16 am, wy <w...@myself.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Jun 19, 12:03 pm, "First.Post"
>> > > <OccupierDumberThanD...@invalid.o
> rg>
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
>> > > > <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote
>> > > > innews:e5b789fd-ca20-4725-af44-ed77101
> 5d...@m24g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
Notice that wy just referred to all of that as "our problems" while he is
trying to preach how great it is that we have such "problems".
The idiot proves my point better than I did.


wy

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Jun 19, 2012, 4:59:02 PM6/19/12
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On Jun 19, 4:26 pm, "First.Post" <OccupierDumberThanD...@invalid.org>
wrote:
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
Notice that First Post, in his backwards, upside-down, cock-eyed and
koo-koo universe, typically makes no sense whatsoever. You really
need to replace that bag of potato chips in your head that you so
brazenly call a brain.

Bradley K. Sherman

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The GOP *admits* it is paralyzed until Romney Etch-A-Sketches a position:
|
| Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said today
| he's waiting for presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt
| Romney to announce a position on whether he supports
| deporting young illegal immigrants who came to the United
| States as children.
|
| "He is the leader of our party from now until November,"
| McConnell said, explaining why he didn't want to comment on
| the matter.
| ...
<http://www.rollcall.com/news/mitch_mcconnell_waiting_on_mitt_romney_on_dream_act-215487-1.html?pos=hftxt>

--bks

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Bradley K. Sherman

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Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
> ...
>As opposed to obama who keeps changing them?

Har!
|
| Romney Can't Even Lead From Behind
| June 19, 2012 4:59 PM
|
| "Leading from behind" is a charge Mitt Romney has hurled at
| the President on numerous occasions. Given Mitt Romney's
| response to the Administration on immigration, it is a
| phrase that is in Romney's best interest to drop.
| Permanently.
| ....
| Throughout the Republican Presidential nominating process,
| Romney vowed to defy Congress and veto the DREAM Act as
| President if it were passed.
|
| But now that process is over. He has the nomination in
| hand. And he has nothing to say about the Administration's
| implementation of the DREAM Act.
| ...
<http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/06/19/romney-cant-even-lead-from-behind/>

--bks

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Bert

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In news:jrq2v7$4e1$1...@reader1.panix.com b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> It's clearly a brilliant maneuver!

You know what they say: A nation gets the government it deserves.

--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN

Bradley K. Sherman

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Hopeless, hopeless, hopeless. This is not Presidential material:
|
| Mitt Romney is struggling to find a fresh pitch to Hispanic
| voters in advance of an important meeting of the
| community's leaders this week after Barack Obama's decision
| to end the threat of deportation for young illegal
| immigrants.
|
| Mr Romney, the Republican candidate for the election, and
| the president are due to speak on Thursday and Friday
| respectively at the Florida meeting of the peak Hispanic
| body.
|
| The president's initiative has taken the wind out of Mr
| Romney's campaign, which had been preparing to tack back to
| the centre on immigration after his tough line in the
| Republican primaries in favour of encouraging illegals to
| leave the US.
| ...
<http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/e5e9de26-ba2e-11e1-84dc-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1yHKkiiqo>

--bks

Bradley K. Sherman

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Bert <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>In news:jrq2v7$4e1$1...@reader1.panix.com b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>> It's clearly a brilliant maneuver!
>
>You know what they say: A nation gets the government it deserves.

Actually that's not what they say. They say "Romney looks
like a complete idiot." It's not like asking him who the
prime minister of Sri Lanka is. Immigration is an issue
that came up repeatedly in the GOP primaries.

Romney is caught between a rock and a hard place and everyone
is laughing at him for being such a clown.

--bks

Too_Many_Tools

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On Jun 19, 10:03 am, wy <w...@myself.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 10:43 am, Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 19, 10:39 am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>
> > > Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >On Jun 19, 9:23 am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> > > >> Be sure to see the hilarious video (2:10) that accompanies
> > > >> this article:
> > > >> |
> > > >> | Mitt Romney and the Republicans have found a number of
> > > >> | creative ways to side-step the question, "Will you repeal
> > > >> | Obama's immigration order to grant temporary relief from
> > > >> | deportation to the children of illegal immigrants?" Check
> > > >> | out the highlight reel above, and keep in mind: this is
> > > >> | only from Monday morning, on a single network!
> > > >> | ...
> > > >> <http://leanforward.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/18/12287057-will-you-r...>
>
> > > >So you think letting 800,000+ illegal beaners have complete amnesty
> > > >for political reasons is a "brilliant maneuver"?? WTF do you think his
> > > >"brilliant manuever" will do the already sky high unemployment rate of
> > > >high school age kids and blacks?
>
> > > It's clearly a brilliant maneuver!  Even GOP strategists are
> > > saying so:
> > >  |
> > >  | GOP strategist: Republicans were caught with their pants
> > >  | down' on immigration
> > >  | ...
> > >  | "They should not have been caught with their pants down,"
> > >  | Rollins said of Republicans, adding that they were caught
> > >  | "flat-footed" by the announcement. "They needed to be
> > >  | better prepared."
> > >  | ...
> > > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/gop-strategist-rep...>
>
> > >     --bks
>
> > Brilliant?  Not really.  Shameless?  Pretty much.
>
> Yeah, but wouldn't it be funny if Obama got re-elected thanks to the
> Latino vote tipping him over the edge in a close race?  That's where
> the brilliance would come in.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I know that my gardener will vote for Obama.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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On Jun 19, 9:29 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
<burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 9:23 am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Be sure to see the hilarious video (2:10) that accompanies
> > this article:
> >  |
> >  | Mitt Romney and the Republicans have found a number of
> >  | creative ways to side-step the question, "Will you repeal
> >  | Obama's immigration order to grant temporary relief from
> >  | deportation to the children of illegal immigrants?" Check
> >  | out the highlight reel above, and keep in mind: this is
> >  | only from Monday morning, on a single network!
> >  |
> >  | Why is the GOP evading? Perhaps because the future of their
> >  | party's electability is at stake. According to the 2010
> >  | census, the Hispanic population makes up 16.3% of the
> >  | country's population. That's a 43% increase since the
> >  | previous census in 2000, making Hispanics not only the
> >  | nation's largest minority group, but also its
> >  | fastest-growing one.
> >  | ...
> > <http://leanforward.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/18/12287057-will-you-r...>
>
> >     --bks
>
> So you think letting 800,000+ illegal beaners have complete amnesty
> for political reasons is a "brilliant maneuver"?? WTF do you think his
> "brilliant manuever" will do the already sky high unemployment rate of
> high school age kids and blacks?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You bet it is.

That is why you are whining like a little conservative bitch.

TMT

Not Sure

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On Jun 19, 2:57 pm, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> Bert  <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> >Innews:jrq2v7$4e1$1...@reader1.panix.comb...@panix.com (Bradley K.
> >Sherman) wrote:
>
> >> It's clearly a brilliant maneuver!
>
> >You know what they say: A nation gets the government it deserves.
>
> Actually that's not what they say.

Sure it is. And that's the reason your Messiah is toast this
November :)
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Bert

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In news:jrqsjv$3qk$2...@reader1.panix.com b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> Bert <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>In news:jrq2v7$4e1$1...@reader1.panix.com b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>> It's clearly a brilliant maneuver!
>>
>>You know what they say: A nation gets the government it deserves.
>
> Actually that's not what they say.

Are you saying that the US didn't really deserve to be subjected to the
past 3+ years of Obama, and doesn't deserve four more?

They voted for him; they deserved it.

They vote for him again, they'll deserve what they get.

The rest of us will just have to suffer along with them.

Bradley K. Sherman

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All across the country people are laughing at RoboRomney:
|
| Editorial: Romney stumbles
|
| Posted June 19, 2012 at 3:47 p.m.
| ...
| Appearing on CBS's "Face the Nation," Mr. Romney refused
| five times to say whether he, as president, would revoke
| the executive order he had just finished denouncing.
|
| He should have been prepared for the question. He left the
| impression that he honestly didn't have an answer; either
| that or he was afraid anything he said would offend one or
| another of his constituencies.
| ...
<http://www.vcstar.com/news/2012/jun/19/editorial-romney-stumbles/>

--bks

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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> TMT- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Why don't you do your own gardening,sissy?
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Not Sure

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On Jun 19, 4:15 pm, denni...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) wrote:
> In article
> <ee582e46-620e-4d17-9806-b85e02f27...@z19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, Yak
>
> <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 19, 5:54 pm, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> >> Hopeless, hopeless, hopeless. This is not Presidential material:
>
> >By that standard obama never should have been elected.
>
> Romney has never stopped kowtowing to the far right and he'd better get
> started soon if he does.

Try English next time.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> |
> >> | Mitt Romney is struggling to find a fresh pitch to Hispanic
> >> | voters in advance of an important meeting of the
> >> | community's leaders this week after Barack Obama's decision
> >> | to end the threat of deportation for young illegal
> >> | immigrants.
> >> |
> >> | Mr Romney, the Republican candidate for the election, and
> >> | the president are due to speak on Thursday and Friday
> >> | respectively at the Florida meeting of the peak Hispanic
> >> | body.
> >> |
> >> | The president's initiative has taken the wind out of Mr
> >> | Romney's campaign, which had been preparing to tack back to
> >> | the centre on immigration after his tough line in the
> >> | Republican primaries in favour of encouraging illegals to
> >> | leave the US.
> >> | ...
> >> <http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/e5e9de26-ba2e-11e1-84dc-00144feabdc0.h...>
>
> >> --bks

Bradley K. Sherman

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|
| NBC NATIONAL NEWS -- President Obama's move on immigration
| is paying off politically.
|
| A whopping 64% of likely voters told Bloomberg they support
| the Obama order to let 800,000 young undocumented migrants
| stay in the U.S. to study or work.
| ...
| It's left Mitt Romney in the middle.
|
| Republican leaders say they're waiting to hear what romney
| wants to do on immigration.
|
<http://www.nbc33tv.com/news/decision-2012/romney-still-cornered-by-president-obamas-new-deportation-policy>

Now we know what would happen if Romney got that 3 am phone call.
He'd freeze like a deer in the headlights.

RoboRomney has malfunctioned. Still time for the GOP to choose
another candidate.

--bks

Bradley K. Sherman

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|
| GOP caught flat-footed on immigration
|
| Republicans are bobbing, ducking and weaving around
| President Barack Obama's move to allow hundreds of
| thousands of young illegal immigrants to stay in the
| country, fearing a lose-lose proposition no matter how they
| weigh in on the policy shift.
| ...
| Romney - who along with Obama will speak at Thursday's
| convention - repeatedly declined to answer on CBS's "Face
| the Nation" Sunday whether he as president would make the
| same policy change as Obama did. Instead Romney criticized
| the process by which Obama enacted the move.
|
| McConnell declined to answer what should happen to young
| children and adults who are in the country illegally and
| would qualify under the new policy. He also deflected
| questions about whether the new policy constitutes
| "amnesty", as immigration hard-liners charge.
| ...
<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77594.html>

Why do Republicans hate America?

--bks

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Bradley K. Sherman

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Mr.B1ack <b...@barrk.net> wrote:
> Obama should be impeached for violating the letter
> and intent of existing immigration laws - just to
> score some votes. That's gawdawfully corrupt.

Har! Well I'm sure Romney will say something about this
one of these months. (You're quite wrong, by the way.
The idiots who caved to Bush's Phony War on Terror gave
DHS total control over immigraion and DHS is in the
executive branch.)

Meanwhile everyone is laughing at Willard Etch-A-Sketch:
|
| Romney stumbles on immigration
| Published: June 19, 2012 7:57 PM
|
| Primary campaigns are different from presidential
| campaigns, which require the winning candidates to quickly
| shift gears for a general election.
|
| The candidate is not assured of pre-screened friendly
| audiences, who are disposed to forgive and forget if their
| favorite candidate stumbles badly. Mitt Romney, with all
| his experience running for office, surely knows this. But
| last weekend, on his first venture in 2012 outside the
| friendly confines of Fox News, he did indeed stumble badly.
| ...
<http://www.newsday.com/opinion/oped/mcfeatters-romney-stumbles-on-immigration-1.3793020>

--bks

Bradley K. Sherman

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Everyone is laughing at Willard, just like when he was a
cheerleader for his exclusive 1%er boarding school:
|
| Waiting for Romney: Dems Pounce on Senate Leader's Refusal
| to Outline GOP Immigration Position
| ...
| "I think we're going to wait and see what Gov. Romney has
| to say, and then our members are going to be discussing his
| views on this, and I think many of them will have similar
| views. Others may not," McConnell said.
|
| The reaction from Democrats was swift as they sought to
| capitalize on McConnell's hesitancy and Romney's failure to
| take a stand on Obama's new policy.
|
| "McConnell says he's waiting for Romney to lay out his
| position on immigration. Have a seat, Mitch. This could
| take awhile!" Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod said on
| Twitter.
| ...
| It is not the first time members of Romney's own party have
| hurt their nominee by calling attention to his
| oft-criticized handling of the immigration issue.
|
| Last month Bettina Inclan, the Hispanic outreach director
| for the Republican National Committee, made a comment that
| her bosses quickly tried to "walk back."
|
| "As a candidate, to my understanding, he's still deciding
| what his position on immigration is," Inclan said at a
| press event in Washington.
|
| Minutes later, Republican National Committee spokeswoman
| Kirsten Kukowski tried to downplay Inclan's comments,
| claiming that "we never said the governor hasn't decided on
| immigration."
|
<http://www.kvor.com/rssItem.asp?feedid=112&itemid=29865879>

--bks

Dakota

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I didn't know Romney was a cheerleader but I'm not surprised. George
W. Bush was a cheerleader at his exclusive 1% school too.

*us*

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Mittler should tap Yasser Lopez for his running mate.
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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> W. Bush was a cheerleader at his exclusive 1% school too.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Which has what to do with his ability to lead the country? What not
brag about Obama's accomplishments as POTUS? You leftists nitpick
about a Conservative candidate being a "cheerleader" in grade school
yet give Obama a complete and total pass on his radical past. It makes
you look desperate. Keep up the good work.

Bradley K. Sherman

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|
| Pres. Obama's no deportation plan gives Mitt Romney
| heartburn
|
| June 20, 2012, 5:00 a.m.
|
| Republicans seem befuddled by President Obama's decision to
| halt deportation of young people brought into the United
| States illegally by their undocumented parents. Mitt Romney
| is gobsmacked, Speaker of the House John Boehner is
| exasperated and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio is totally bummed
| out.
| ...
<http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-no-deportation-plan-20120620,0,5847496.story>

--bks

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jun 19, 5:36 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
<burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why don't you do your own gardening,sissy?

The gardening is not too bad - But when it come to killing you own
chicken, pigs and cows, it gets pretty taxing.

-RFH

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jun 19, 10:03 am, wy <w...@myself.com> wrote:

> Yeah, but wouldn't it be funny if Obama got re-elected
> thanks to the Latino vote tipping him over the edge in
> a close race? That's where the brilliance would come in.

(profuse apologies for the uncharacteristic lack of URL, I transcribed
this from the TV):

Lawrence O'Donnell, MSNBC:

"We now know what the secret Mitt Romney says at his $50,000 per
person fundraisers that the public Mitt Romney would never say. Romney
demonstrated some competence in campaign math. He told his audience
that president Obama's huge lead among Hispanic voters 'Spells doom
for us. We have to come up with some kind of Republican DREAM Act. We
have to get Hispanics to vote for our party.'".

His first big problem is Barack Obama and his second big problem is
Mitt Romney:

(archive footage)

"If I were elected and Congress were to pass the DREAM Act, I would
veto the DREAM Act" - Mitt Romney

"The answer is self deportation" (*) - Mitt Romney
(*) Making life for the undocumented person so miserable [which is
fine] AND HIS/HER FRIENDS AND RELATIVES [which is not], that they have
to leave.

"Arizona (**) is the role model for the country" - Mitt Romney
(**) SB-1070 - Unconstitutional according to all Federal Courts

Romney strategists are staring at a Latino lock on the Electoral
College.

“Assuming that Obama wins all the states that have been won by every
Democrat for the last 20 years, including both Gore and Kerry (242
electoral votes) and Romney wins all the states that McCain won in
2008 (180 electoral votes), that leaves 10 states: CO, FL, IA, IN, NC,
NH, NM, NV, OH, VA (116 electoral votes). With those ten states, there
are 1,024 possible combinations. Out of these 1,024 scenarios, Obama
wins 939 of them (91.7%) and Romney wins 85 of them (8.3%). All 85
scenarios REQUIRE Mitt Romney to win Florida, a state in which Obama
leads according to all the latest polls”

Latest Florida Poll:
All Voters - Obama: 50%, Romney: 45%
Latino Voters - Obama: 52%, Romney: 37%

"If you think that Romney can close that gap by choosing Marco Rubio
as his running mate, with the magic of Marco Rubio on the ticket
absolutely nothing changes in Florida"

Even Marco Rubio CANNOT save Romney. In fact, Jeb Bush carries more
Hispanic voters to the GOP ticket.

-----------------------

O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do we undo
this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can we
possibly get them back?'"

Steve Schmidt, Top Republican Strategist (*), agreeing: "If we [the
GOP] had a deliberate strategy to antagonize every Latino voter in
this country, it is not possible that we could have done a better
job".

"The Republican Party cannot be a national party if it doesn't compete
in the Hispanic market - Look at those numbers: we have big, big
problems"

-Ramon

(*) Played by Woody Harrelson in the McCain campaign HBO movie.

Cuatro Año Más!!!!

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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Jun 20, 2012, 9:50:36 AM6/20/12
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Oh my. How did people survive without illegal beaners?? I am so
thankful my country is being over run by illegal beaners like a locust
infestation. May I never,EVER have to butcher my own hogs or wring
another chicken's neck. Now we can all sit back in our recliners,drink
Carta Blanca,Jose Cuervo,dodge hot lead,dodge drunk drivers,listen to
mexxkin mariachi music,eat mexxkin food,take siestas at 3 pm every
day,wear wife beater tee shirts in public and shit in our neighbor's
driveway. Ahhh yesss. The life of leisure.

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jun 20, 8:50 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
<burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 20, 7:50 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 19, 5:36 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
>
> > <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  > Why don't you do your own gardening,sissy?
>

>> The gardening is not too bad - But when it come to killing
>> your own chicken, pigs and cows, it gets pretty taxing.
>
> > -RFH
>
> Oh my. How did people survive without illegal beaners?? I am so
> thankful my country is being over run by illegal beaners like a locust
> infestation. May I never,EVER have to butcher my own hogs or wring
> another chicken's neck. Now we can all sit back in our recliners,drink
> Carta Blanca,Jose Cuervo,dodge hot lead,dodge drunk drivers,listen to
> mexxkin mariachi music,eat mexxkin food,take siestas at 3 pm every
> day,wear wife beater tee shirts in public and shit in our neighbor's
> driveway. Ahhh yesss. The life of leisure.

I AM NOT a PROPONENT of illegal immigration. My motto is: ONE illegal
immigrant is ONE too many.

The idea behind CIR is to ELIMINATE (more realistically reduce as much
as possible) illegal immigration.

I am simply explaining to you folks WHY things are the way they are: I
am neither illegal myself NOR employer of them. Can't do the first
thing about it.

-Ramon

ps: You are mixing drinkers with workers: We ONLY want to keep THE
GOOD ONES.

Bradley K. Sherman

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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E <burto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Oh my. How did people survive without illegal beaners??

Chinese coolies and African slaves. For a racist you don't
know very much about U.S. history, do you?

|
| Romney AWOL On Immigration
|
| Republican nominee still cornered by President Obama's new
| deportation policy
| ...
| "Mitt Romney is AWOL on this! Mitt, if you can hear us
| where do you stand?" asked California's Rep. Xavier Becerra.
| ...
<http://arklatexhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=253412>

--bks

First. Post

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Jun 20, 2012, 10:08:25 AM6/20/12
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b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:jrsl38$a33$1...@reader1.panix.com:

> Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
> <burto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Oh my. How did people survive without illegal beaners??
>
> Chinese coolies and African slaves. For a racist you don't
> know very much about U.S. history, do you?

They are much more informed and educated than your dumbassed wishy washy
flip flopping ass.

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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Jun 20, 2012, 10:08:47 AM6/20/12
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Bullshit motherfucker !! You want American immigration laws changed to
where ANY and EVERY spanish speaking latino/latina can simply stroll
across the Rio Bravo and squat at will.

Bradley K. Sherman

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First. Post <OccupiersDu...@invalid.com> wrote:
>b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
>> Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
>>>
>>>Oh my. How did people survive without illegal beaners??
>>
>> Chinese coolies and African slaves. For a racist you don't
>> know very much about U.S. history, do you?
>
>They are much more informed and educated than your dumbassed wishy washy
>flip flopping ass.

They? Does Bob have a cockroach in his pocket?

|
| Romney, especially, is stuck between not wanting to depress
| his strongly anti-illegal immigrant base and not wanting to
| alienate the fastest-growing bloc of voters, Latinos, says
| Evan Puschak at MSNBC. "This, ladies and gentleman, is
| called a pickle," and his response so far -- "continued
| waffling" -- won't work for long.
|
<http://theweek.com/article/index/229487/6-signs-obamas-immigration-shift-is-already-paying-off>

--bks

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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Jun 20, 2012, 10:17:56 AM6/20/12
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On Jun 20, 9:01 am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
You ignorant,snot nosed idiot. WTF ever happened to the Bracero
Program(let me guess,liberals and Labor Unions,hoodathunkit)?? The
migrants would travel to the US,work the fields,follow the seasons
then take their money and go back to their home in whatever country
they came from. Why did that program become OPEN BORDERS for every
swinging dick and baby squirting mamacita to slither across our
borders,squat and demand we Americans change our culture and way of
life to make the invaders FEEEEEELLLLL good?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracero_Program

The Bracero Program (named for the Spanish term bracero, "strong-arm")
was a series of laws and diplomatic agreements, initiated by an August
1942 exchange of diplomatic notes between the United States and
Mexico, for the importation of temporary contract laborers from Mexico
to the United States.

American president Franklin D. Roosevelt met with Mexican president
Manuel Ávila Camacho in Monterrey, Mexico to discuss Mexico as part of
the Allies in World War II and the Bracero Program. After the
expiration of the initial agreement in 1947, the program was continued
in agriculture under a variety of laws and administrative agreements
until its formal end in 1964.

Bret Cahill

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Jun 20, 2012, 10:23:29 AM6/20/12
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But is it helping Obama odds at getting reelected?

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474

Voters always think "divided government" is the solution so Obama may
be helping the Senate remain Democratic:

https://data.intrade.com/graphing/jsp/closingPricesForm.jsp?contractId=639655&tradeURL=https://www.intrade.com


Bret Cahill


Bradley K. Sherman

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Jun 20, 2012, 10:28:25 AM6/20/12
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Yes Intrade thinks Obama will win and so does this new Bloomberg poll:
|
| Obama leads Romney 53 percent to 40 percent among likely
| voters, even as the public gives him low marks on handling
| the economy and the deficit, and six in 10 say the nation
| is headed down the wrong track, according to the poll
| conducted June 15- 18.
|
| The survey shows Romney, a former Massachusetts governor,
| has yet to repair the damage done to his image during the
| Republican primary. Thirty-nine percent of Americans view
| him favorably, about the same as when he announced his
| presidential candidacy last June, while 48 percent see him
| unfavorably -- a 17-percentage point jump during a
| nomination fight dominated by attacks ads. A majority of
| likely voters, 55 percent, view him as more out of touch
| with average Americans compared with 36 percent who say the
| president is more out of touch.
| ...
<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-20/obama-leads-in-poll-as-voters-view-romney-as-out-of-touch.html>

--bks

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jun 20, 9:01 am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>

> >Oh my. How did people survive without illegal beaners??
>
> Chinese coolies and African slaves.  For a racist you don't
> know very much about U.S. history, do you?

[From an old thread:]

> Really? Are you trying to tell me that there is no
> legal means for people to immigrate to the USA?

[Ramon:]

Not for certain people. There are 3 levels. It works like this:

(1) Entrepreneurs, brain surgeons, rocket scientists, computer
engineers (such as moi, hopefully): The government sends a stretch
limo to pick you at the airport, complete with a red carpet. The head
of immigration goes personally, and introduces you to his daughters:
"No need to stay in a hotel, we will be honored if you stay with us.
We insist!" (and the girls smile invitingly).

(2) Medium level executives, qualified workers, etc. Not too hard,
either. There are plenty of options, the company sponsors you, etc.

(3) Day Laborers, chambermaids, crop pickers (the type this mess is
all about): No (legal) way on Earth. Since 1776 we have looked the
other way, allowing the Invisible Hand (long live capitalism!) to
perform its magic: In a sublime place, Supply and Demand meet ("We are
not worthy!, We are not worthy!"), the only meeting greater than that
of Lennon and McCartney.

Mexican folks (who have been roaming those lands for 50,000 years)
used to cross the border is BOTH directions, depending on DEMAND and
SUPPLY. Sometimes all they need is capital money to start their own
business in Mexico (about 10 grand can be sufficient).

-Ramon

Eddie Haskell

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"Bret Cahill" <Bret_E...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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This is part of why we hate you fascist fucks. You call an unconstitutional
power grab on the part of the executive, and for no more than to bolster his
reelection bid, "brilliant."

That makes YOU, a fucking IDIOT.

-Eddie Haskell

Eddie Haskell

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"Bradley K. Sherman" <b...@panix.com> wrote in message
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> Bret Cahill <Bret_E...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>But is it helping Obama odds at getting reelected?
>>
>>http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474
>>
>>Voters always think "divided government" is the solution so Obama may
>>be helping the Senate remain Democratic:
>>
>>https://data.intrade.com/graphing/jsp/closingPricesForm.jsp?contractId=639655&tradeURL=https://www.intrade.com
>
> Yes Intrade thinks Obama will win and so does this new Bloomberg poll:

If that happens the country is finished.

-Eddie Haskell


Ramon F Herrera

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On Jun 20, 11:30 am, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:

> If that happens the country is finished.
>
> -Eddie Haskell

I hear that same broken record:

- Every 5 years in Venezuela.

- Every 4 years in the USA.

I have a cousin and a couple of friends who vote -in addition to the 2
above countries- in the elections of Italia. Will ask them how often
they hear the cataclysmic predictions...

-Ramon

"The end is near!!" -TCP/IP packet

Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E

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And every year we get another step closer to Armageddon.

Eddie Haskell

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"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 20, 11:30 am, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:

[shakes head]

My god. my dear god..

> If that happens the country is finished.
>
> -Eddie Haskell

> I hear that same broken record:

- Every 5 years in Venezuela.

Venezuela IS finished, you dumbass. Man, you just said a mouthful and
stepped straight in shit. Too bad you're too stupid to ever realize it.

-Eddie Haskell


Eddie Haskell

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"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burto...@gmail.com>
wrote in message
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Yeah, he hears the same thing every 5 years in Venezuela and well, they're
doing all right.

[shakes head]

My god. My god..

Do you people see what we are dealing with, with these third-worlders yet?

<snap> <snap>

Hello? Hello?

-Eddie Haskell


Eddie Haskell

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"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message
news:425956e3-d449-43f6...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
Kind of like when we were warning you of the financial crisis and you
shrugged your shoulders?

''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any
kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of
Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.
''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on
these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''

-Eddie Haskell


Ramon F Herrera

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On Jun 20, 12:07 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in messagenews:425956e3-d449-43f6...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 20, 11:30 am, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:
>
> [shakes head]
>
> My god. my dear god..
>
>  > If that happens the country is finished.
>  >
>  > -Eddie Haskell
>
> > I hear that same broken record:
>
>  - Every 5 years in Venezuela.
>

> Venezuela IS finished, you dumbass.

Finished? Hardly!

- Guess what country has THE biggest reserves of oil on the planet?

- Care to predict the price of oil in the next decades?

- Hugo Chavez never appointed a dauphin successor (he fears them).
Venezuelans LOVE their trips to Miami, etc. Since they keep on buying
cars while new roads are not built the basterd said on TV: "Why do you
people always want to buy cars; learn from CHINA!! They go around in
bicycles". The immediate reply "why don't you go fuck yourself!!??"
was heard countrywide and unanimous (specially from HIS supporters).

The first thing the corrupt Chavista officers do when they steal a
couple of dollars is to buy a home in Miami, go to Disney, etc. The
pictures (and property documentation from Dade County) are all over
the Internet.

The fact is this: Chavez receives more than $1 million weekly (in a
relatively small country). If he tells people to dance on the streets
dressed like Carmen Miranda, they will oblige. Venezuelans DO NOT LIKE
COMMUNISM. Sooner or later, the Chavistas will simply be another
group, like socialists in Spain, Italia, etc. Venezuela has been best
friend with the US since their independence (both countries helped
each other). Old friendships like that never die.

The Venezuelan PEOPLE (the ones who really matter) have nothing but
respect and admiration for the US.

-Ramon

Ramon F Herrera

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On Jun 20, 12:42 pm, Ramon F Herrera <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote:

ed: BILLION.

-RFH
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Eddie Haskell

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"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 20, 12:07 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in
> messagenews:425956e3-d449-43f6...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 20, 11:30 am, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:
>
> [shakes head]
>
> My god. my dear god..
>
> > If that happens the country is finished.
> >
> > -Eddie Haskell
>
> > I hear that same broken record:
>
> - Every 5 years in Venezuela.
>

> Venezuela IS finished, you dumbass.

> Finished? Hardly!

> - Guess what country has THE biggest reserves of oil on the planet?

Because it's an impoverished third-world socialist country run by a
dictator?

[sakes head some more]

My god.. my dear god..

This is what we are dealing with from the third world. Listen and learn,
people. They just don't have it. They just don't get it..

-Eddie Haskell


Ramon F Herrera

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On Jun 20, 1:03 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in messagenews:8f40ea9c-d3ae-478f...@o4g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 20, 12:07 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:425956e3-d449-43f6...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 20, 11:30 am, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:
>
> > [shakes head]
>
> > My god. my dear god..
>
> > > If that happens the country is finished.
>
> > > -Eddie Haskell
>
> > > I hear that same broken record:
>
> > - Every 5 years in Venezuela.
>
>  > Venezuela IS finished, you dumbass.
>
> > Finished? Hardly!
> > - Guess what country has THE biggest reserves of oil on the planet?
>

> Because it's an impoverished third-world socialist country run by a
> dictator?

Venezuela is not a socialist country.

-Ramon

Eddie Haskell

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"Dennis M" <denn...@dennism3.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article
> <ebd82770-51b3-4906...@q5g2000pba.googlegroups.com>, Bret
> Cahill <Bret_E...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Voters always think "divided government" is the solution so Obama
>>may be helping the Senate remain Democratic:
>
> Divided government was good before the Republican party went completely
> insane a few years ago.

If a 200 billion dollar deficit is insane, what is a 1.5 trillion dollar
one, you bat shit crazy democrat?

> Now it's a death knell for the US to have the "Tea-publicans" in charge of
> ANY branch of government.

That's because they believe in the rule of law and the principles that
founded the country and nothing on earth scares the living shit out of a
liberal such as yourself more than that.

Goddamn America.

-Eddie Haskell


Eddie Haskell

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"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message
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My god, he's trotting out the idea that Venezuela isn't socialist because a
9 year old is allowed to run a lemonade stand.

[Bows, shakes head some more]

God.. my dear god..

Democrats want them to be able to vote here, folks. Can you believe that
shit?

Goddamn America.

-Eddie Haskell


Ramon F Herrera

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On Jun 20, 1:11 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in messagenews:eaf37e0c-21b1-41c7...@37g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 20, 1:03 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:8f40ea9c-d3ae-478f...@o4g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 20, 12:07 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> wrote in
> > > messagenews:425956e3-d449-43f6...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Jun 20, 11:30 am, "Eddie Haskell" <rgrgr...@sasqi.com> wrote:
>
> > > [shakes head]
>
> > > My god. my dear god..
>
> > > > If that happens the country is finished.
>
> > > > -Eddie Haskell
>
> > > > I hear that same broken record:
>
> > > - Every 5 years in Venezuela.
>
> > > Venezuela IS finished, you dumbass.
>
> > > Finished? Hardly!
> > > - Guess what country has THE biggest reserves of oil on the planet?
>
>  > Because it's an impoverished third-world socialist country run by a
>  > dictator?
>
> > Venezuela is not a socialist country.
>
> My god, he's trotting out the idea that Venezuela isn't socialist
> because a 9 year old is allowed to run a lemonade stand.

Venezuela is not a socialist country. Not in the traditional sense.

Communism is DEAD (thank God!!). The communist countries left are few
and far in between: Cuba, North Korea, Laos, and that's about it.

http://geography.about.com/od/lists/tp/communistcountries.htm

The Economist (publication as capitalist as you can get) sent a
journalist to Venezuela who spent time in the Caracas Country Club.
They told him: "Look, Chavez may go blah-blah-blah for his TV
audience, but the fact is that we had NEVER had so much business and
profits". The US had never done so much business with Venezuela than
currently.

-Ramon

Eddie Haskell

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"Ramon F Herrera" <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote in message
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Not in the traditional sense meaning whatever ludicrous excuse you can dream
up.

> Communism is DEAD (thank God!!). The communist countries left are few
> and far in between: Cuba, North Korea, Laos, and that's about it.

Wtf..? Communism and socialism aren't the same thing so wtf are you talking
about?

> http://geography.about.com/od/lists/tp/communistcountries.htm

> The Economist (publication as capitalist as you can get) sent a
> journalist to Venezuela who spent time in the Caracas Country Club.
> They told him: "Look, Chavez may go blah-blah-blah for his TV
> audience, but the fact is that we had NEVER had so much business and
> profits". The US had never done so much business with Venezuela than
> currently.

How on this earth does that mean that Venezuela isn't a socialist country?

[drops head shaking it again]

Lord god.. my dear lord god..

I'm telling you people. They are going to let them vote here. I'm not
shitting you.

"In Venezuela, Land Redistribution Program Backfires"

"In Venezuela, President Hugo Chavez's government has made the expropriation
of farmland - taking land from big landholders and giving it to the poor -
central to his so-called revolution. The idea is to spur production and end
dependence on food imports. "

"But the results have fallen short, making the country more dependent on
foreign food than ever before."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106620230

Gee, what a surprise. That's never happened before.

-Eddie Haskell


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"Dennis M" <denn...@dennism3.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <2koEr.195252$%O1.1...@unlimited.newshosting.com>, "Eddie
> Haskell" <rgrg...@sasqi.com> wrote:
>
>>"Dennis M" <denn...@dennism3.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:dennism3-ya0240800...@news.datemas.de...
>>> In article
>>> <ebd82770-51b3-4906...@q5g2000pba.googlegroups.com>, Bret
>>> Cahill <Bret_E...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Voters always think "divided government" is the solution so Obama
>>>>may be helping the Senate remain Democratic:
>>>
>>> Divided government was good before the Republican party went completely
>>> insane a few years ago.
>>
>>If a 200 billion dollar deficit is insane, what is a 1.5 trillion dollar
>>one, you bat shit crazy democrat?
>
> Nobody's buying Republicans' sudden religion on government spending,
> asswipe. You have too much of a history that directly contradicts that.

We balanced the budget in the nineties while you lied through your rotten
teeth pretending to give a fuck about Bush's deficits while salivating at
the prospect of trillion dollar plus ones as far as the eye can see until
you bankrupt America.

>>> Now it's a death knell for the US to have the "Tea-publicans" in charge
>>> of
>>> ANY branch of government.
>>
>>That's because they believe in the rule of law and the principles that
>>founded the country and nothing on earth scares the living shit out of a
>>liberal such as yourself more than that.
>
> They believe in plutocrats running the country through Fox-News-watching
> useful idiots like yourself, they even have you spouting platitudes like
> "the rule of law and the principles that founded the country" which they
> ignore at every turn.

You talk out of your ass while stealing trillions for unions to be funneled
into your election bid all the while running jobs out of the country with
your corporate big government bogeyman demagoguery. Then you put a racist
anti-American in office and call the opposition anti-American because we
believe in jobs for people while you believe in government dependence for
votes.

Goddamn America.

-Eddie Haskell


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