Poll: Bush's Approval Rating Rises - Libs cry, "butt we lied through our yellow teeth"
CB
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/114950.shtml
A new Fox News poll shows President Bush’s job approval numbers on the rebound.
Bush’s approval rating jumped six points over last month’s result to 42 percent
among Americans surveyed. His disapproval numbers still outpace that figure,
however, with 48 percent dissatisfied with his job performance, primarily
centered on the war in Iraq.
Roughly equal numbers of Americans surveyed think the president either shared
the best information available regarding pre-Iraq war intelligence or that he
intentionally misled the country on that intelligence.
Democrats are trying to pound away at this apparent uneasiness with attacks on
the president’s credibility coming from the usual suspects, such as Senators Ted
Kennedy, John Kerry and Joe Biden, as well as Reps. Nancy Pelosi and,
surprisingly, Rep. John Murtha.
The White House has taken measured steps to move forward with its policy agendas
on the war on terrorism and Iraq, immigration reform, the U.S. economic policy
and other issues.
Earlier this week, President Bush spoke on U.S.-Mexico border patrol issues in
Texas and Arizona. He later addressed the U.S. Naval Academy with a fresh
outline on the strategy for victory in Iraq and, Friday, made comments regarding
the recent positive economic news.
Opinion Dynamics Corporation conducted the national telephone poll of 900
registered voters for FOX News on November 29-30.
CB
...
Leftist Support of Islamist Terror
Most shocking is the outright sympathy of many leftist-liberals for Islamic
fascism. They said little about the murder of 500 Russian civilians, many of
them children, but screamed week after week because some Arab savage at Abu
Ghirab prison wore a bag on his head. They cared nothing about the
beheadings committed by the Islamo-savages or the execution of 12 Nepalese.
David Horowitz gives an excellent discussion of who this "Left" really is.
He calls the neo-communist, I call them Leftist-Liberals. I'm a classical
Liberal myself and I feel it's time to remove this irrational element that
has been allowed to poison our good name.
Much more on the "neo-communists"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/browse_frm/thread/c104b81c9cb69096/cc1c1303d78ca263?hl=en#cc1c1303d78ca263
Dave Thompson
"CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote in message
news:rgi0p1ph9c2t1aqil...@4ax.com...
> Poll: Bush's Approval Rating Rises
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/114950.shtml
>
> A new Fox News poll shows President Bush's job approval numbers on the
> rebound.
It's Newsmax. Just another propoganda farm from the right wing noise
machine.
Larry Hewitt
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/114950.shtml
>
> A new Fox News poll shows President Bush's job approval numbers on the
rebound.
>
> Bush's approval rating jumped six points over last month's result to 42
percent
> among Americans surveyed. His disapproval numbers still outpace that
figure,
> however, with 48 percent dissatisfied with his job performance, primarily
> centered on the war in Iraq.
>
Yeah, real cause for cheer. more people hate him than like him, and 3 out of
five think he is incometent.
Dream on.
Larry
XTS
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/114950.shtml
>
> A new Fox News poll shows President Bush's job approval numbers on the
rebound.
>
> Bush's approval rating jumped six points over last month's result to 42
percent
> among Americans surveyed. His disapproval numbers still outpace that
figure,
> however, with 48 percent dissatisfied with his job performance, primarily
> centered on the war in Iraq.
And to you this is good news? A War prez at the end of his 5th year and
that's it? 42%. LMAO!
Server 13
> Poll: Bush's Approval Rating Rises
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/114950.shtml
>
> A new Fox News poll
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http://www.rense.com/general35/MEDIA.HTM
Appellate Court Rules Media Can Legally Lie.
On February 14, a Florida Appeals court ruled there is absolutely nothing
illegal about lying, concealing or distorting information by a major press
organization. The court reversed the $425,000 jury verdict in favor of
journalist Jane Akre who charged she was pressured by Fox Television
management and lawyers to air what she knew and documented to be false
information. The ruling basically declares it is technically not against any
law, rule, or regulation to deliberately lie or distort the news on a
television broadcast.
On August 18, 2000, a six-person jury was unanimous in its conclusion that
Akre was indeed fired for threatening to report the station's pressure to
broadcast what jurors decided was "a false, distorted, or slanted" story about
the widespread use of growth hormone in dairy cows. The court did not dispute
the heart of Akre's claim, that Fox pressured her to broadcast a false story
to protect the broadcaster from having to defend the truth in court, as well
as suffer the ire of irate advertisers.
Fox argued from the first, and failed on three separate occasions, in front of
three different judges, to have the case tossed out on the grounds there is no
hard, fast, and written rule against deliberate distortion of the news. The
attorneys for Fox, owned by media baron Rupert Murdock, argued the First
Amendment gives broadcasters the right to lie or deliberately distort news
reports on the public airwaves.
In its six-page written decision, the Court of Appeals held that the Federal
Communications Commission position against news distortion is only a "policy,"
not a promulgated law, rule, or regulation.
Jeezus Krist
CB wrote:
> Poll: Bush's Approval Rating Rises
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/114950.shtml
>
> A new Fox News poll shows President Bush's job approval numbers on the rebound.
>
> Bush's approval rating jumped six points over last month's result to 42 percent
> among Americans surveyed. His disapproval numbers still outpace that figure,
> however, with 48 percent dissatisfied with his job performance, primarily
> centered on the war in Iraq.
CB, it really hurts me to tell you this, but Fox News, just like your
idol
George Bush, will LIE to you -- only a little bit, your understand,
like maybe
only 6 percent -- when necessary to "prove" what they wantto prove.
Besides, having more people hating your guts than kissing your ass
is still not a lot to brag about.
Mickey
> CB wrote:
>
>>Poll: Bush's Approval Rating Rises
>>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/114950.shtml
>>
>>A new Fox News poll shows President Bush's job approval numbers on the rebound.
>>
>>Bush's approval rating jumped six points over last month's result to 42 percent
>>among Americans surveyed. His disapproval numbers still outpace that figure,
>>however, with 48 percent dissatisfied with his job performance, primarily
>>centered on the war in Iraq.
>
>
> CB, it really hurts me to tell you this, but Fox News, just like your
> idol
> George Bush, will LIE to you -- only a little bit, your understand,
> like maybe
> only 6 percent -- when necessary to "prove" what they wantto prove.
Like ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, New York Times, or fill in the blank doesn't
play fast and loose with the truth. Welcome to the real world. Once the
"most trusted man in America" "mischaracterized" the Tet offensive, any
illusions America might have had that news, particularly broadcast news
could be trusted should have gone right out the window.
Don't assume your truth is anymore untarnished than the other guy's. My
advice is to wait for the movie, then you'll know what not to believe.
(Cartoons are usualy more accurate.)
mickey
Sid9
After our losses today Bush,jr's numbers should shrink again.
Bush,Jr has earned the title of "Widowmaker"
CB
Stay tuned, losers, the issue of lies will haunt you until the 06 election. By
then even the MTV generation will know the truth as the internal polling
reflect.
As said by Dick Morris tonight on the O-Factor, 70 polled believe Saddamn's
missing Anthrax, VX and Mustard gas still exist and stashed by our enemies.
Just a few speaches on the lies you've told has been enough to raise the polls.
Just think how high they my go by next November??
Merry Christmas...RNC
CB
Fox is #1 in cable news idiot. We the people put them there for a reason and
their polls reflect those reasons.
Have you heard about the internal polling? 70% said they still believe the WMD
are still out there.
Good luck *suoerstition) in 06, it's your only 'chance'
CB
wrote:
It's FOXNEWS dummy.
Your sence of moral relative equality has blinded you into thinking all media
'is' the same, when it 'is' not
Dave Thompson
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 12:05:39 -0700, "Dave Thompson"
> <gosuc...@thisfewworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote in message
>>news:rgi0p1ph9c2t1aqil...@4ax.com...
>>> Poll: Bush's Approval Rating Rises
>>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/114950.shtml
>>>
>>> A new Fox News poll shows President Bush's job approval numbers on the
>>> rebound.
>>
>>It's Newsmax. Just another propoganda farm from the right wing noise
>>machine.
>>
>
> It's FOXNEWS dummy.
Like I said. Propoganda.
>
> Your sence of moral relative equality has blinded you into thinking all
> media
> 'is' the same, when it 'is' not
Go spank your monkey over Ann Coulter you pea brained conservative lush.
Rich Travsky
bval...@aol.com
machine. <<<
And what, exactly, is wrong with Newsmax? I mean, it's not like they
use forged documents to try and sway a Presidential election. It's not
like the New York Times, which claimed cannibals wander the street of
New Orleans, or who hired Jason Blair. It's not like the New Republica,
which hired Stephen Glass. It's not like the BBC, who had to fire its
president after it was revealed they forged photographs to make it look
like soliders tortured Iraqis.
Rich Travsky
>
> On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:01:45 GMT, "XTS" <x...@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote in message
> >news:rgi0p1ph9c2t1aqil...@4ax.com...
> >> Poll: Bush's Approval Rating Rises
> >> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/114950.shtml
> >>
> >> A new Fox News poll shows President Bush's job approval numbers on the
> >rebound.
> >>
> >> Bush's approval rating jumped six points over last month's result to 42
> >percent
> >> among Americans surveyed. His disapproval numbers still outpace that
> >figure,
> >> however, with 48 percent dissatisfied with his job performance, primarily
> >> centered on the war in Iraq.
> >#cc1c1303d78ca263
> >
> >And to you this is good news? A War prez at the end of his 5th year and
> >that's it? 42%. LMAO!
> >
>
> Stay tuned, losers, the issue of lies will haunt you until the 06 election. By
> then even the MTV generation will know the truth as the internal polling
> reflect.
>
> As said by Dick Morris tonight on the O-Factor, 70 polled believe Saddamn's
> missing Anthrax, VX and Mustard gas still exist and stashed by our enemies.
>
> Just a few speaches on the lies you've told has been enough to raise the polls.
> Just think how high they my go by next November??
Even Faux News is thinking the cons will lose the house...
Rich Travsky
>
> On 2 Dec 2005 14:37:57 -0800, "Jeezus Krist" <Cogni...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >CB wrote:
> >> Poll: Bush's Approval Rating Rises
> >> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/114950.shtml
> >>
> >> A new Fox News poll shows President Bush's job approval numbers on the rebound.
> >>
> >> Bush's approval rating jumped six points over last month's result to 42 percent
> >> among Americans surveyed. His disapproval numbers still outpace that figure,
> >> however, with 48 percent dissatisfied with his job performance, primarily
> >> centered on the war in Iraq.
> >
> > CB, it really hurts me to tell you this, but Fox News, just like your
> >idol
> >George Bush, will LIE to you -- only a little bit, your understand,
> >like maybe
> >only 6 percent -- when necessary to "prove" what they wantto prove.
> > Besides, having more people hating your guts than kissing your ass
> >is still not a lot to brag about.
>
> Fox is #1 in cable news idiot. We the people put them there for a reason and
> their polls reflect those reasons.
>
> Have you heard about the internal polling? 70% said they still believe the WMD
> are still out there.
And you have a cite for that of course...
> Good luck *suoerstition) in 06, it's your only 'chance'
Rich Travsky
>
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 12:05:39 -0700, "Dave Thompson" <gosuc...@thisfewworld.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote in message
> >news:rgi0p1ph9c2t1aqil...@4ax.com...
> >> Poll: Bush's Approval Rating Rises
> >> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/114950.shtml
> >>
> >> A new Fox News poll shows President Bush's job approval numbers on the
> >> rebound.
> >
> >It's Newsmax. Just another propoganda farm from the right wing noise
> >machine.
> >
>
> It's FOXNEWS dummy.
The network that went to court - in Florida - to be able to lie about the
news...
> Your sence of moral relative equality has blinded you into thinking all media
> 'is' the same, when it 'is' not
"moral relative equality"
like this?
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2610/663/1600/Rumsfeld-Hussein.jpg
runnswim@aol.com (Larry Weisenthal)
Time Magazine polls show no change...
Americans Want Different Type of President Next Time, Poll Says
Dec. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Three in five Americans want the next U.S.
president to be completely different from incumbent George W. Bush,
according to a poll by Time magazine.
Bush's policies in Iraq and high gasoline and energy prices had a
``very negative'' effect on his overall job rating for 45 percent of
respondents, according to the poll, conducted between Nov. 29 and Dec.
1. The results showed 36 percent would like the next president to have
policies similar to those of Bush, compared with 60 percent who want a
different type of leader.
The findings indicate Bush is failing to reverse flagging approval
ratings after laying out his strategy for Iraq in a Nov. 30 speech. The
poll showed 41 percent approve of the job Bush is doing while 53
percent disapprove, little changed from results in September after
Hurricane Katrina hit the U.S. Gulf Coast. Of those who disapprove, 76
percent said they were unlikely to change their opinion of Bush.
CB
Then Tme doctored the OJ pics
CB
<runn...@aol.com> wrote:
>Statistically, the margins of error for the two Fox polls overlap.
>
>Time Magazine polls show no change...
>
>Americans Want Different Type of President Next Time, Poll Says
>
>Dec. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Three in five Americans want the next U.S.
>president to be completely different from incumbent George W. Bush,
>according to a poll by Time magazine.
Time doctored the OJ pics and for that you trust them with polling?
Time is rather 'shady'
>
>Bush's policies in Iraq and high gasoline and energy prices had a
>``very negative'' effect on his overall job rating for 45 percent of
>respondents, according to the poll, conducted between Nov. 29 and Dec.
Funny how things have now changed for the better
>1. The results showed 36 percent would like the next president to have
>policies similar to those of Bush, compared with 60 percent who want a
>different type of leader.
Who wants ice cream?
>
>The findings indicate Bush is failing to reverse flagging approval
>ratings after laying out his strategy for Iraq in a Nov. 30 speech. The
>poll showed 41 percent approve of the job Bush is doing while 53
>percent disapprove, little changed from results in September after
>Hurricane Katrina hit the U.S. Gulf Coast. Of those who disapprove, 76
>percent said they were unlikely to change their opinion of Bush.
Sagging poll numbers are more of a reflection of the depressing 'press' which
for the most part is anti-Bush
Sid9
Anything "better" in Iraq
was from articles in Iraqi
newspapers written and
paid for by Bush,Jr's
operatives in Iraq.
Support our troops!
Bring them home.
Screw Bush,Jr and the Iraqis!
runn...@aol.com
fascism. They said little about the murder of 500 Russian civilians,
many of
them children, but screamed week after week because some Arab savage at
Abu
Ghirab prison wore a bag on his head.<<
CB...the reason most of us were screaming was because Bush was notified
of what went on at the prison, including the photos, in January, but
did NOTHING about it until forced to do so by the Newsweek story in
late April. Only then did he say anything publicly about it and order
a major investigation. It looked to the world as if we were torturing
what the world knew to be mostly petty criminals or actually innocent
people (or was Lindy Ireland really entrusted with the custody of
important Baathists with knowledge of what happened to the phantom
WMD). The point is that Bush knew about the probability of an eventual
international scandal, guaranteeing the mistreatment of captured
Americans for generations to come. He could have wrapped up the
investigation and made the announcements himself, on favorable terms to
the US, well before the Newsweek story broke.
Here's a representative quote about Abu Gharib:
Iraqi prisoner abuse photos disgust Arab world, Bush
Saturday, May 01, 2004
By Dana Milbank, The Washington Post
WASHINGTON -- Arab countries reacted with rage and revulsion yesterday
after images of U.S. soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners were broadcast
around the world.
Bush administration and U.S. military officials scrambled to contain
the furor and to assuage concerns among allies. The photos showed U.S.
troops celebrating as prisoners were sexually humiliated and otherwise
abused.
"It provides a graphic portrayal of many of the worst impressions that
much of the world has about America," said Andrew Kohut, who, as
director of the Pew Research Center, has polled extensively in Arab and
European countries. "It's red meat to large numbers of people all
around the world who are increasingly anti-American and don't think we
represent the things Americans pride themselves on."
Foreign policy experts said the photos could cause lasting damage to
U.S. efforts. "It is a disaster," said Michael Rubin, resident scholar
at the American Enterprise Institute and until earlier this year a
political adviser to the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority.
"Five or six people have managed to soil the reputation of American
soldiers worldwide."
CB
Just like with Vietnam, cut and run leaving NVN to slaughter one million people
living in the south
CB
>>>Most shocking is the outright sympathy of many leftist-liberals for Islamic
>fascism. They said little about the murder of 500 Russian civilians,
>many of
>them children, but screamed week after week because some Arab savage at
>Abu
>Ghirab prison wore a bag on his head.<<
>
>CB...the reason most of us were screaming was because Bush was notified
>of what went on at the prison, including the photos, in January, but
>did NOTHING about it until forced to do so by the Newsweek story in
>late April.
There wasn't any torture going on, only humiliation and coerce persuasion of
animals without a shed of Humanity in them. Those that 'proved' to be just
caught up in the theatre were released, thankful that American justice 'is'
merciful on the battle field
Only then did he say anything publicly about it and order
>a major investigation. It looked to the world as if we were torturing
>what the world knew to be mostly petty criminals or actually innocent
>people (or was Lindy Ireland really entrusted with the custody of
>important Baathists with knowledge of what happened to the phantom
>WMD).
Told by the likes of Time, News(OJ photo)Week and Dan Blather
The point is that Bush knew about the probability of an eventual
>international scandal, guaranteeing the mistreatment of captured
>Americans for generations to come.
Mistreatment isn't torture
He could have wrapped up the
>investigation and made the announcements himself, on favorable terms to
>the US, well before the Newsweek story broke.
>
>Here's a representative quote about Abu Gharib:
>
>Iraqi prisoner abuse photos disgust Arab world,
That's what it was designed to do but then who would have thought the media
would be on the side of the enemy?
Bush
>
>
>Saturday, May 01, 2004
>
>
>By Dana Milbank, The Washington Post
>
>
>WASHINGTON -- Arab countries reacted with rage and revulsion yesterday
>after images of U.S. soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners were broadcast
>around the world.
>
>
>Bush administration and U.S. military officials scrambled to contain
>the furor and to assuage concerns among allies. The photos showed U.S.
>troops celebrating as prisoners were sexually humiliated and otherwise
>abused.
>
>
>"It provides a graphic portrayal of many of the worst impressions that
>much of the world has about America," said Andrew Kohut, who, as
>director of the Pew Research Center, has polled extensively in Arab and
>
>European countries. "It's red meat to large numbers of people all
>around the world who are increasingly anti-American and don't think we
>represent the things Americans pride themselves on."
>
>
>Foreign policy experts said the photos could cause lasting damage to
>U.S. efforts.
War is a tough bidniz, people get hurt, people die and people are saved due to
the CIA and their ways of making people talk
"It is a disaster," said Michael Rubin, resident scholar
>at the American Enterprise Institute and until earlier this year a
>political adviser to the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority.
>"Five or six people have managed to soil the reputation of American
>soldiers worldwide."
So the actions of a few are proof that America's Army and the CIA do not
systematically torture the enemy or those just caught up in the war.
CB
...
Leftist Support of Islamist Terror
Most shocking is the outright sympathy of many leftist-liberals for Islamic
fascism. They said little about the murder of 500 Russian civilians, many of
them children, but screamed week after week because some Arab savage at Abu
Eris
>Just like with Vietnam, cut and run leaving NVN to slaughter one million people
>living in the south
>
>CB
How many did we slaughter in the North and the South, Cliff?
P.S. Impotent one, I was one of the killer whores that was
slaughtering them.
Sid9
I wouldn't trade one Marine's life for Iraq.
They have a three way civil war ready to
go as soon as America stops providing
them with targets of convenience.
If we went there to topple Saddam,
"Mission Accomplished"!
Now lets get out of the Bush,Jr \
quagmire.
Rich Travsky
Most of coalition are leaving. Chimpoleon's adminstration is saying around 50K
troops will be taken out - but nah, that's not cuttin' and runnin'...
RT
Rich Travsky
>
> On 5 Dec 2005 09:20:46 -0800, runn...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >>>Most shocking is the outright sympathy of many leftist-liberals for Islamic
> >fascism. They said little about the murder of 500 Russian civilians,
> >many of
> >them children, but screamed week after week because some Arab savage at
> >Abu
> >Ghirab prison wore a bag on his head.<<
> >
> >CB...the reason most of us were screaming was because Bush was notified
> >of what went on at the prison, including the photos, in January, but
> >did NOTHING about it until forced to do so by the Newsweek story in
> >late April.
>
> There wasn't any torture going on, only humiliation and coerce persuasion of
What about the ones our guys killed? What about the trials and convictions
of our guys?????
What did Limdoper compare it to? "good ol American porno" or something like
that?
CB
>On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:33:54 +0000, CB
><C...@prayforme.com> wrote:
>
>>On 5 Dec 2005 09:20:46 -0800, runn...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>>CB...the reason most of us were screaming was because Bush was notified
>>>of what went on at the prison, including the photos, in January, but
>>>did NOTHING about it until forced to do so by the Newsweek story in
>>>late April.
>>
>>There wasn't any torture going on, only humiliation and coerce persuasion of
>>animals without a shed of Humanity in them.
>
>What trial convicted them of sufficient crimes as to
>prove they were that, Barta?
It's war dumbshit, there are few rules in war. Especially for ununiformed men
without a country.
>
>You dont' torture someone if you know those things are
>true---you present evidence in a court of law and
>convict them.
LOL, spoken like a true loi'ya.
Try and get the ACLU to file paperwork in an Iraqi court, let's see how far you
get.
Schröder. The German Chancellor suggested that the Pentagon's decision to
make the axis of weasels ineligible for Iraqi reconstruction contracts
might be illegal under international law. "International law?" said the
President. "I'd better call my lawyer. He didn't bring that up to me."
--President George W Bush
>
>You torture to find out what you don't know---and
>generally end up with confessions that are worthless
>anyway.
America's Arrmy and the CIA is a little bit more sophisticated than you give
them credit for.
>
>That's not how Americans (or Christians) are supposed
>to do things, you dumb cocksucker.
You use Christianity as a tool for your own war on America's Christian
leadership. Just like el Qaeda would use our own laws and planes against us.
That's why President Bush uses military tribunals and not civil Justice you
dumb'ass
CB
Schröder. The German Chancellor suggested that the Pentagon's decision to
make the axis of weasels ineligible for Iraqi reconstruction contracts
might be illegal under internation"International law?" said the
President. "I'd better call my lawyer. He didn't bring that up to me."
--President George W Bush
CB
wrote:
>CB wrote:
>>
>> On 5 Dec 2005 09:20:46 -0800, runn...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >>>Most shocking is the outright sympathy of many leftist-liberals for Islamic
>> >fascism. They said little about the murder of 500 Russian civilians,
>> >many of
>> >them children, but screamed week after week because some Arab savage at
>> >Abu
>> >Ghirab prison wore a bag on his head.<<
>> >
>> >CB...the reason most of us were screaming was because Bush was notified
>> >of what went on at the prison, including the photos, in January, but
>> >did NOTHING about it until forced to do so by the Newsweek story in
>> >late April.
>>
>> There wasn't any torture going on, only humiliation and coerce persuasion of
>
>What about the ones our guys killed? What about the trials and convictions
>of our guys?????
It proved to be individuals, not the CIA or a conspiracy.
Shall we blame Socialists in the DNC for what Hitler did?
CB
>I wouldn't trade one Marine's life for Iraq.
>
>They have a three way civil war ready to
>go as soon as America stops providing
>them with targets of convenience.
So the truth comes out of why the left wants to turn Iraq into a lost cause such
as they did with Vietnam and the consequence of a million SVN slaughtered
afterward
>
>If we went there to topple Saddam,
>"Mission Accomplished"!
>
>Now lets get out of the Bush,Jr \
>quagmire.
...so that civil war and brake out
CB
The Bush administration is, of course, preoccupied with the Middle East, and
this drives media coverage of foreign affairs. But voices are struggling to be
heard in the media about the communist danger and potential terrorist threat we
face just south of the border.
JOE McCARTHY WAS RIGHT
http://www.aim.org/publications/aim_report/2003/13.html
CB
Where you one of the men John F'ing Kerry described to Congress?
CB
>On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 00:03:01 +0000, CB
><C...@prayforme.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>There wasn't any torture going on, only humiliation and coerce persuasion of
>>>>animals without a shed of Humanity in them.
>>>
>>>What trial convicted them of sufficient crimes as to
>>>prove they were that, Barta?
>>
>>It's war dumbshit, there are few rules in war.
>
>
>Many of those being harassed, abused and tortured were
>ACCUSED, you fucking idiot.
>
>They weren't even captured participating in "war"
>
>
I remember many thousands were freed after due process was afforded
bval...@aol.com
P.S. Impotent one, I was one of the killer whores that was
slaughtering them. >>>>
Still claiming to be a few years from social security, huh? Gee,
you're over sixty, working in as a menial in a place where you're
universally hated, you don't have a wife or children. If you were
thirty-five, you'd be pathetic. In your sixties, the life you describe
is an utter disaster.
Eris
wrote:
Are you really an out patient?
bval...@aol.com
>you're over sixty, working in as a menial in a place where you're
>universally hated, you don't have a wife or children. If you were
>thirty-five, you'd be pathetic. In your sixties, the life you describe
>is an utter disaster
Are you really an out patient?>>>>
Yeah, that's something a sixty-two year old viet-nam vet would write.
The truth is, you're probably a fat forty-year old who dropped out of
junior college, and has noticed that life is passing you by. You're
bitter, and that's the reason that everyone at the asphalt company
hates you.
bval...@aol.com
During WWII, there were those who wouldn't trade on Marine's life for a
Jew in a concentration camp.
Sid9
False parallel.
Rich Travsky
>
> On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:19:14 -0700, Rich Travsky <" traRvEsky"@hotmMOVEail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >CB wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5 Dec 2005 09:20:46 -0800, runn...@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>Most shocking is the outright sympathy of many leftist-liberals for Islamic
> >> >fascism. They said little about the murder of 500 Russian civilians,
> >> >many of
> >> >them children, but screamed week after week because some Arab savage at
> >> >Abu
> >> >Ghirab prison wore a bag on his head.<<
> >> >
> >> >CB...the reason most of us were screaming was because Bush was notified
> >> >of what went on at the prison, including the photos, in January, but
> >> >did NOTHING about it until forced to do so by the Newsweek story in
> >> >late April.
> >>
> >> There wasn't any torture going on, only humiliation and coerce persuasion of
> >
> >What about the ones our guys killed? What about the trials and convictions
> >of our guys?????
>
> It proved to be individuals, not the CIA or a conspiracy.
Riiight. wink wink
> Shall we blame Socialists in the DNC for what Hitler did?
What are you babbling about?
RT
bval...@aol.com
> During WWII, there were those who wouldn't trade on Marine's life for
> a Jew in a concentration camp.
>>>>False parallel. >>>>
Why? Saddam and bin Laden are both open admirers of Adolph Hitler, and
Hussan openly based his government on Stalin's reign of terror. Saddam
had death camps which would make Himmler lose his lunch, and we've
already found the better part of a million souls in mass graves.
What's the difference, besides Saddam's greater cruelity?
Sid9
We found what?
Where?
I've never seen a website or newspaper
that made the claims you make.
You are a liar.
bval...@aol.com
>> During WWII, there were those who wouldn't trade on Marine's life for
>> a Jew in a concentration camp.
>>>>> False parallel. >>>>
> Why? Saddam and bin Laden are both open admirers of Adolph Hitler,
> and Hussan openly based his government on Stalin's reign of terror.
> Saddam had death camps which would make Himmler lose his lunch, and
> we've already found the better part of a million souls in mass graves.
> What's the difference, besides Saddam's greater cruelity?
>>>>We found what?>>>
The better part of a million souls buried in mass graves. Also,
torture chambers (real ones, on the "put panties on terrorist's heads
'torture' chambers."
>>>>Where?>>>>
In hundreds of locations around Iraq.
>>>>I've never seen a website or newspaper that made the claims you make. >>>>
Well, I've provide links which supply photos. The next time you claim
that there are no mass graves, you'll remove all doubt that you care as
little for the truth as you do the women and children Saddam murdered.
>>>You are a liar.>>>
And yet, I'm the one who provided empirical evidence:
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/27000.htm
http://www.foxnews.com/images/141588/0_23_101304_iraq_mass_grave3.jpg
http://www.usaid.gov/press/mediaadvisories/2004/ma040722.html
http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/photogallery/gallery_11/my04_highres.html
You are in the same catagory as the anti-semites who deny the Holocaust
happened. You're willing to allow hundreds of thousands of women and
children to be brutally murdered, simply so you can have the fun of
screaming about President Bush.
Sid9
You and Bush,Jr are totally off the wall.
CB
Old Junk - bval...@aol.com wrote:
Old Junk - >>>>>> I wouldn't trade one Marine's life for Iraq. >>>
Old Junk - >>> During WWII, there were those who wouldn't trade on Marine's life
Old Junk - >>> for a Jew in a concentration camp.
Old Junk - >>>>>> False parallel. >>>>
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - >> Why? Saddam and bin Laden are both open admirers of Adolph Hitler,
Old Junk - >> and Hussan openly based his government on Stalin's reign of terror.
Old Junk - >> Saddam had death camps which would make Himmler lose his lunch, and
Old Junk - >> we've already found the better part of a million souls in mass
Old Junk - >> graves. What's the difference, besides Saddam's greater cruelity?
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - >>>>> We found what?>>>
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - > The better part of a million souls buried in mass graves. Also,
Old Junk - > torture chambers (real ones, on the "put panties on terrorist's heads
Old Junk - > 'torture' chambers."
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - >>>>> Where?>>>>
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - > In hundreds of locations around Iraq.
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - >>>>> I've never seen a website or newspaper that made the claims you
Old Junk - >>>>> make. >>>>
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - > Well, I've provide links which supply photos. The next time you claim
Old Junk - > that there are no mass graves, you'll remove all doubt that you care
Old Junk - > as little for the truth as you do the women and children Saddam
Old Junk - > murdered.
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - >>>> You are a liar.>>>
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - > And yet, I'm the one who provided empirical evidence:
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - > http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/27000.htm
Old Junk - > http://www.foxnews.com/images/141588/0_23_101304_iraq_mass_grave3.jpg
Old Junk - > http://www.usaid.gov/press/mediaadvisories/2004/ma040722.html
Old Junk - > http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/photogallery/gallery_11/my04_highres.html
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - > You are in the same catagory as the anti-semites who deny the
Old Junk - > Holocaust happened. You're willing to allow hundreds of thousands of
Old Junk - > women and children to be brutally murdered, simply so you can have
Old Junk - > the fun of screaming about President Bush.
Old Junk -
Old Junk - You and Bush,Jr are totally off the wall.
Old Junk -
You don't really doubt whether there's mass graves at the hand of Saddamn and his henchmen, do you?
bval...@aol.com
> http://www.foxnews.com/images/141588/0_23_101304_iraq_mass_grave3.jpg
> http://www.usaid.gov/press/mediaadvisories/2004/ma040722.html
> http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/photogallery/gallery_11/my04_highres.html
> You are in the same catagory as the anti-semites who deny the
> Holocaust happened. You're willing to allow hundreds of thousands of
> women and children to be brutally murdered, simply so you can have
> the fun of screaming about President Bush.
>>>You and Bush,Jr are totally off the wall. >>>>
The lawyers have an old expression: "When the facts are on your side,
pound on the facts; when the law is on your side, pound on the law;
when nothing is on your side, pound on the table." You're pounding the
table so hard that it's shattered.
bval...@aol.com
around 50K
troops will be taken out - but nah, that's not cuttin' and runnin'...
>>>
...you DO know that you're sneering at Bush for a RUMOR that's
spreading around, don't you?
bval...@aol.com
around 50K
troops will be taken out - but nah, that's not cuttin' and runnin'...
>>>
...you DO know that you're sneering at Bush for a RUMOR that's
Sid9
It's not a rumor.
Generals are saying it
Rumsfeld is saying it
Try reading a newspaper
bval...@aol.com
Really? Rumsfeld said that we're definately removing 50,000 troops?
Not "if we can", or "we'd like to", but made a formal announcement?
Please provide a link proving that.
bval...@aol.com
of what went on at the prison, including the photos, in January, but
did NOTHING about it until forced to do so by the Newsweek story in
late April. >>>
Who cares? They're terrorists - they have no rights.
CB
Old Junk - bval...@aol.com wrote:
Old Junk - >>>>> I wouldn't trade one Marine's life for Iraq. >>>
Old Junk - >> During WWII, there were those who wouldn't trade on Marine's life for
Old Junk - >> a Jew in a concentration camp.
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - >>>>> False parallel. >>>>
Old Junk - >
Old Junk - > Why? Saddam and bin Laden are both open admirers of Adolph Hitler,
Old Junk - > and Hussan openly based his government on Stalin's reign of terror.
Old Junk - > Saddam had death camps which would make Himmler lose his lunch, and
Old Junk - > we've already found the better part of a million souls in mass graves.
Old Junk - > What's the difference, besides Saddam's greater cruelity?
Old Junk -
Old Junk -
Old Junk - We found what?
Old Junk - Where?
Old Junk - I've never seen a website or newspaper
Old Junk - that made the claims you make.
Old Junk -
Old Junk - You are a liar.
Old Junk -
Dispariging your buddies Saddamn and bin Laden makes you mad?
If I told you Uday was a closet queer would it make you cry?
Rich Travsky
You mean like the ones created while republicons were supporting him?
RT
Rich Travsky
Eris
wrote:
I'm having sex with women, you?
bval...@aol.com
You do remember that you're pretending to be a war vet who's three
years away from social security, don't you? What kind of a 62 year old
would say something like "I'm having sex with women" and expect it to
be a trump card in a conversation?
The truth is that you're a fat forty-something who dropped out of
junior college, and has just begun to notice that life has passed you
by. That bald spot continues to grow, the weight no longer leaves like
it used to, and bruises don't heal as fast as they used to. You keep
telling yourself that 40 is the new 30, but even a thirty year old
would find your life pathetic. Instead of taking stock of what you
are, and what you can to do improve your lot, it's far easier to assume
that other people are screwing you out of what's rightfully yours.
Eris
wrote:
I don't understand why a virile, macho guy like yourself did not
immediately answer his countries call and fight those horrible commies
in Viet Nam, maybe I wouldn't have to go, and you could be mocking me
for not serving.
bval...@aol.com
immediately answer his countries call and fight those horrible commies
in Viet Nam, maybe I wouldn't have to go, and you could be mocking me
for not serving. >>>
You misunderstand me. I'm not mocking you. If I were mocking you, I'd
ridicule the story you've told. No, I'm calling you a liar. Again,
that's not fair - you're not just a liar, but a clumsy liar. You
didn't know that Siagon was the capital of Viet Nam, for a while you
couldn't make up your mind if you were in the Army or the Marines (what
did you finally settle on, anyway? Star Fleet?) Now you're
desperatingly trying to throw your weight around for a service to
America you only gave in your diseased mind.
Eris
wrote:
I know that Viet Namese is a mono syllabic language and it is Sai Gon
not Saigon, I know that you did not serve, but masturbated while
others served for you.
Section eight ? Unfit for military duty?
ROTFLMAO
bval...@aol.com
not Saigon,>>>
Then why didn't you know it was the capital a few years ago? And have
you decided which branch of the military you "served" in yet?
Eris
wrote:
>>>>I know that Viet Namese is a mono syllabic language and it is Sai Gon
MACV USARV
Which did you serve in?
WAC? WAVE? BAM?
bval...@aol.com
>you decided which branch of the military you "served" in yet?
MACV USARV
Which did you serve in?>>>>
As a 62 year old vet, surely you would admit that only a dog would
claim to have served when he didn't, wouldn't you? What kind of
contempt would you hold a person who falsely claimed to have served his
country, and did so only to throw unearned weight around on a usenet
group?
What would you say to such a person, were you to meet him?
Jaybi...@yahoo.com
Jaybi...@yahoo.com
Imagine you are the man on the bottom, with 400 pounds pressing down on
you for only God knows how long, and tell me that's not torture.
CB
F____ you
Armstrong Beheading
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/video/armstrong-murder2.wmv
Beheading Of Paul Johnson
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/video/johnson-murder.wmv
Nick Berg's Killing
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/berg_killing.zip
CB
<Nixon and Ford, repubs, lost the Vietnam War.
It was Dan Rather, Walter Kronkite along with 'Legion' and his Liberal Media
runnswim@aol.com (Larry Weisenthal)
What finally turned the tide were the Pentagon Papers revelations that
Americans were not being told the truth about the origins and conduct
of the war by two successive administrations.
The lesson of Vietnam is that a President can't force the American
people to support his war effort once he has lost their trust. To his
credit, Bush realizes this, and that's what's behind his 4 speech full
court press.
But he's still not leveling and he's still misleading. And it's past
time for him to win back the nation's trust.
What's happening in Iraq is what happened in Vietnam. Iraqization,
followed by partition and Islamization. A Shiite/Iranian axis and a
Sunni/Syrian axis.
And none of it...none of it at all; has one single thing to do with
protecting America against bin Laden's plan to kill 4,000,000 of us
with nuclear weapons, most likely exploding in our unguarded port
cities.
- Larry W
Joseph Welch
"CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote in message
news:q6jcq11finrt44mbj...@4ax.com...
> It was Dan Rather, Walter Kronkite along with 'Legion' and his Liberal
> Media
None of them commanded any troops, authored any legislation, or wielded any
political power whatsoever.
Can't you right-wingers take responsibility for *anything*?
--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
Mickey
> "CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote in message
> news:q6jcq11finrt44mbj...@4ax.com...
>
>
>>It was Dan Rather, Walter Kronkite along with 'Legion' and his Liberal
>>Media
>
>
> None of them commanded any troops, authored any legislation, or wielded any
> political power whatsoever.
>
> Can't you right-wingers take responsibility for *anything*?
>
With all the shouting of Bush "lied about WMDs" I'm suprized that all
the seekers of truth aren't more familar with the intersection of
Cronkite's reporting of the Tet offensive and the actual event. Some
believe it a was a virtual null set and that "the most trusted man in
America" was completely aware at the time that it was a null set.
Right wing, left wing doesn't really enter into the question.
Eris
wrote:
Well gee, all of the people in alt.war.vietnam, which you fled,
believe me, and all of the people in alt.us.military.army believe me
that leaves only you.
Why didn't you serve? Sec. 8 ? unfit for military duty?
CB
More like defeatists in despair
CB
<seattled...@freewebspace.com> wrote:
<
<"CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote in message
<news:q6jcq11finrt44mbj...@4ax.com...
<
<> It was Dan Rather, Walter Kronkite along with 'Legion' and his Liberal
<> Media
<
<None of them commanded any troops, authored any legislation, or wielded any
<political power whatsoever.
<
<Can't you right-wingers take responsibility for *anything*?
It's the media who think they can shape policy
Jaybi...@yahoo.com
Fred
Clintons polls were lower than Pres. Bush.
bval...@aol.com
believe me, and all of the people in alt.us.military.army believe me
that leaves only you. >>>
I repeat, As a 62 year old vet, surely you would admit that only a dog
would claim to have served when he didn't, wouldn't you? What kind of
contempt would you hold a person who falsely claimed to have served his
country, and did so only to throw unearned weight around on a usenet
group?
One would think that this would be a topic a 62 year old vet would
embrace, not run away from.
So, would you admit that only a dog would pose as a war vet? Maybe not
a dog. Dogs have honor. A cockroach, perhaps.
Are "war vet" posers cockroaches? Yes or no? A real vet would answer
the question.
CB
<On 18 Dec 2005 19:27:50 -0800, Jaybi...@yahoo.com wrote:
<
<<http://search.lycos.com/default.asp?tab=multi&img_frame=1&query=abu+gharib&thumb_url=http://images.picsearch.com/is?8611737871733&image_url=http://www.psychicworld.net/ab2.jpg&refer_url=http://www.psychicworld.net/ttw.htm&image_height=262&image_width=350&file_size=12&p=4
<<
<<Imagine you are the man on the bottom, with 400 pounds pressing down on
<<you for only God knows how long, and tell me that's not torture.
<
Did you hear what I F'ing said, asshole?
Armstrong Beheading
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/video/armstrong-murder2.wmv
<
Beheading Of Paul Johnson
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/video/johnson-murder.wmv
<
Nick Berg's Killing
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/berg_killing.zip
What you posted was coercion, not torture!
What you posted is nothing compared to what America's enemy does to our people
when captured.
So F_ _ _ you
CB
"Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war;
liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare
indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers," Mr.
Rove, the senior political adviser to President Bush, said at a fund-raiser
in Midtown for the Conservative Party of New York State.
Jaybi...@yahoo.com
Eris
>On 19 Dec 2005 23:03:59 -0800, "bval...@aol.com"
><bval...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>I repeat, As a 62 year old vet, surely you would admit that only a dog
>>would claim to have served when he didn't, wouldn't you?
>
>That's why we despise your lying sack of shit Bush and
>his army of draft dodgers.
Yep draft dodging B Vallely is in the correct party. It is sad that a
pervert like Bill can pontificate about sending other peoples children
to die in a place that is of only interest to him and other crack
pots, while he admits to sitting home and creating pornography for
Penthouse during Viet Nam.
But wait draft dodging is not enough, he must denigrate real veterans
like my self who hated going into the armedforces and hated killing
people 14,000 miles from my home, that were defending their houses and
families from and invading army, mine. The little faggot also
denigrates Kerry, McCain and others, I like five minutes with B
Vallely alone in a room, he would not enjoy it, or perhaps he would,
with that perv you can never tell.
Better yet, I would like to have had the perv on patrol with me in
Nam. After the action, I would go over to his mewling body in a fetal
position and I would kick him until he stood up and while he was
standing there sobbing in his shit and urine stained fatigues, I would
curse him out.
Perverts like Bill do not reproduce or contribute to society at all.
I feel sorry for Bill he could not even keep a job with the local
animal shelter.
bval...@aol.com
like my self who hated going into the armedforces and hated killing
people 14,000 miles from my home, that were defending their houses and
families from and invading army, mine.>>>>
Tell me - how is it that a person who claims to have served in Viet
Nam doesn't know that Saigon is less than 10,000 miles from Dallas,
Texas? In fact, how can anyone get out of high school not knowing that
it's impossible to be more than 12,000 miles away from ANY point on the
Earth. See, the Earth is 24,000 miles in diameter, and therefore,
whenever you've traveled more than 12,000 in any one direction, you're
actually getting closer to the spot where you started.
I do find it amusing that, on a bet, you won't attack people who pose
as vets. We've finally found a lie you won't tell.
Eris
wrote:
Vietnamese is monosyllabic, it is Sai Gon idiot. If you are 10,000
miles from your home and you do a one eighty you are 14,000 miles
away from your home. It is called a reverse azimuth.
You say the earth is 24, 000 miles in diameter or 75,000 miles in
circumference, using your logic you are obviously not from earth, no
surprise there.
Why didn't you serve your country in it's greatest time of need?
croaker
I think it has been proven by now that media is a power in it self, who
ever controls the media can really brainwash the people.
CB
That's why Dims think the President should be be dictated by polling.
Who wants ice cream?
CB
Watch the surrender ad that'll sink all Dim hope in 06
http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/cutandrun.wmv
And Dim Libs thought they had Impeachment in their grasp by painting a picture
of doom in Iraq and the poor economy.
How reality bites for them once again