....and....just wait....the us post office is sitting close by shining
up their tin cup. Interesting how the left is dead silent when the
uspo brass gets huge pay increases in the face of $16 billion in
losses.
> >>>>FEMA may seek flood insurance bailout after Sandy
> >>>Maybe we could use some of the billions we give to foriegn oil
> >>>companies in subsidies?
> >>Maybe we could give it back to the taxpayer. Well, at least the one's
> >>that pay.
> > EVERYONE Pays taxes you stupid halfwit.
> > You can't find any soul in America who buys something that does not.
> If I give you $100 to go buy something that has a sales tax, which one > of us paid the tax?
This is how a Randoid mind actually thinks.
Like one guy gets a direct payment from him when he pays taxes.
No wonder they keep losing election after election after election...
They no clue how a society actually works.
Psssttt... we are all in this TOGETHER.
-- "[The] debt explosion has resulted not from big spending by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from tax cuts."
-Reagan budget chief David Stockman
> --
> "[The] debt explosion has resulted not from big spending
> by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's
> embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious
> doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from
> tax cuts."
> -Reagan budget chief David Stockman
> > > If I give you $100 to go buy something that has a sales tax, which one
> > > of us paid the tax?
> > This is how a Randoid mind actually thinks.
> > Like one guy gets a direct payment from him when he pays
> > taxes.
> > No wonder they keep losing election after election after
> > election...
> > They no clue how a society actually works.
> > Psssttt... we are all in this TOGETHER.
> If we are all in this together then why do half get a free ride?
We've gone through this... this is a rightie propaganda myth.
Its more like 15% that don't actually do any work, IIRC.
And yes, a great society takes care of these people too.
People like you just want to kill them, ignore them, or toss them all in debtor prisons... none of which does a society any good.
Once you morons figure this out, maybe you can get with the program and stop losing elections!
If not... why should the rest of us normal people care?
33% does not cotrol much agenda.
-- "[The] debt explosion has resulted not from big spending by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from tax cuts."
-Reagan budget chief David Stockman
> Once you morons figure this out, maybe you can get with
> the program and stop losing elections!
> If not... why should the rest of us normal people care?
> 33% does not cotrol much agenda.
> --
> "[The] debt explosion has resulted not from big spending
> by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's
> embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious
> doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from
> tax cuts."
> -Reagan budget chief David Stockman
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:37:58 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
>On Nov 17, 12:21 pm, Gary DW <Dw2spike3...@sio.midco.net> wrote:
>> In article <416a7ddb-2ced-4713-850a-8d993798f151
>> @v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com>, Yak says...
>> > > > If I give you $100 to go buy something that has a sales tax, which one
>> > > > of us paid the tax?
>> > > This is how a Randoid mind actually thinks.
>> > > Like one guy gets a direct payment from him when he pays
>> > > taxes.
>> > > No wonder they keep losing election after election after
>> > > election...
>> > > They no clue how a society actually works.
>> > > Psssttt... we are all in this TOGETHER.
>> > If we are all in this together then why do half get a free ride?
>> We've gone through this... this is a rightie propaganda
>> myth.
>> Its more like 15% that don't actually do any work, IIRC.
>Who said anything about work? Go look at the latest fed income tax
>numbers for what I'm talking about.
>> And yes, a great society takes care of these people too.
>> People like you just want to kill them, ignore them, or
>> toss them all in debtor prisons... none of which does a
>> society any good.
>Where do you come up with this nonsense?
From his own imagination because he has no real definitive argument.
So he has to try to portray you as some kind of evil boogeyman using
nothing but made up insults.
If stupid assed brain dead liberals were correct in all of their
little descriptions of conservatives then there wouldn't be any
liberals left as they would have all been killed off decades ago.
>> Once you morons figure this out, maybe you can get with
>> the program and stop losing elections!
>> If not... why should the rest of us normal people care?
>> 33% does not cotrol much agenda.
>> --
>> "[The] debt explosion has resulted not from big spending
>> by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's
>> embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious
>> doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from
>> tax cuts."
>> -Reagan budget chief David Stockman
> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:58:39 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
> > >FEMA may seek flood insurance bailout after Sandy
> > Maybe we could use some of the billions we give to foriegn oil
> > companies in subsidies?
> Maybe we could give it back to the taxpayer. Well, at least the one's
> that pay.
Once upon a time, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan suggested on the
floor of the Senate that since FICA taxes were being spent on
literally everything in the world except the Social Security they were
supposedly being spent on, maybe it would be better for the citizenry
if Congress just gave the money back to them. He was practically
laughed out into the street for that little foray into common sense.
"We have two income taxes in America. One of them is masquerading as a
retirement fund."
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:37:58 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
> >> Its more like 15% that don't actually do any work, IIRC.
> >Who said anything about work? Go look at the latest fed income tax
> >numbers for what I'm talking about.
> Those number only reflect "dollar amount"
> If a working poor person pays nearly 100% of any disposable income
> over subsistence---then it's monumentally unfair to allow a schitt
> rumney to pay (effectively) less than 1% of his total wealth.
> Even if Shchitt paid an effective rate of 13%----he takes home
> multimillions, and has an advantage of lowering that amount in a
> subsequent filing if he loses money screwing workers out of a job.
Well duh! That's how the tax code is compiled. We don't have a
"burden tax". Stop with the wealth envy already. They carry the
weight for you.
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 13:47:38 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 17, 2:16 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:37:58 -0800 (PST), Yak <y...@inbox.com> wrote:
> >> >> Its more like 15% that don't actually do any work, IIRC.
> >> >Who said anything about work? Go look at the latest fed income tax
> >> >numbers for what I'm talking about.
> >> Those number only reflect "dollar amount"
> >> If a working poor person pays nearly 100% of any disposable income
> >> over subsistence---then it's monumentally unfair to allow a schitt
> >> rumney to pay (effectively) less than 1% of his total wealth.
> >> Even if Shchitt paid an effective rate of 13%----he takes home
> >> multimillions, and has an advantage of lowering that amount in a
> >> subsequent filing if he loses money screwing workers out of a job.
> >Well duh! That's how the tax code is compiled. We don't have a
> >"burden tax".
> THen why does the poorest have so much a bigger burden?
> That alone is justication for large tax rates on ALL income above a $1
> million, a large estate tax and LARGE penalties for taking money
> out-of-country.
Burden is all relative. The poor pay the same as everyone else on
most items except income...in which case they pay zilch. They are
getting a free ride. Sorry, when it comes to taxation I ain't gonna
cry no rivers for the poor poor pitiful poor. Oh, and would you stop
your snipping already?
Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:50:16 -0500, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Setting up silly scenarios only makes you look more stupid, FandarLoon
>>Let me guess: You have no idea what the annual exclusion is.
> Let ME guess
> You don't have a clue about what "burden" means---unless it's a faux
> snooze regurgitation?
> Anyone in a poverty level situation has a monumental tax
> burden---taking nearly 100% of anything above a living income. The
> "benefits" to that level of people are ethically and morally demanded
> in any civilized society
Those that are classified as poverty level do not have a monumental tax burden.
It's a mere 10%. When you factor in deductions, almost all of them will get the money back. There are even some people out there who make money when filing taxes. Those people are not the wealthy.
> Anyone in the upper 2 Income Tiers---have amost NO burden---the taxes
> they pay and the use of the tax code make that almost
> negligible---even tho the monetary amount it large. It is
> not---compared to their accumulated wealth and income manipulations.
So? People that have money tend to know how the money works. How much of other people's money do you think should be confiscated in order to be "fair"?
