A Marine Speaks - Listen Up!
starwars
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We are far from the first to point out this superb op-ed by an
Marine Major stationed in Najaf, which appeared in this
morning's New York Times. If you haven't read it, you should. He
provides a riveting account of the Battle of Najaf:
"The battle has been surreal, focused largely in the cemetery,
where families continue burying their dead even as I swoop in
low overhead to make sure they aren't sneaking in behind our
forces' flanks, or pulling a surface-to-air missile out of the
coffin. Children continue playing soccer in the dirt fields next
door, and locals wave to us as we fly over their rooftops in
preparation for gun runs into the enemy's positions."
And the importance of supporting the troops in their mission,
not just in the abstract, has never been put more eloquently:
"When critics of the war say their advocacy is on behalf of
those of us risking our lives here, it's a type of false
patriotism. I believe that when Americans say they 'support our
troops,' it should include supporting our mission, not just
sending us care packages. They don't have to believe in the
cause as I do; but they should not denigrate it. That only aids
the enemy in defeating us strategically.
"Michael Moore recently asked Bill O'Reilly if he would
sacrifice his son for Falluja. A clever rhetorical device, but
it's the wrong question: this war is about Des Moines, not
Falluja. This country is breeding and attracting militants who
are all eager to grab box cutters, dirty bombs, suicide vests or
biological weapons, and then come fight us in Chicago, Santa
Monica or Long Island. Falluja, in fact, was very close to
becoming a city our forces could have controlled, and then given
new schools and sewers and hospitals, before we pulled back in
the spring. Now, essentially ignored, it has become a Taliban-
like state of Islamic extremism, a terrorist safe haven. We must
not let the same fate befall Najaf or Ramadi or the rest of Iraq.
"No, I would not sacrifice myself, my parents would not
sacrifice me, and President Bush would not sacrifice a single
marine or soldier simply for Falluja. Rather, that symbolic city
is but one step toward a free and democratic Iraq, which is one
step closer to a more safe and secure America."
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Given how often we've savaged the Times, it's only fair to give
them credit for publishing this fine piece.
Baldin Pramer
> Given how often we've savaged the Times, it's only fair to give
> them credit for publishing this fine piece.
Who is this "we" you speak of, froggie?
--
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From http://www.nami.org/helpline/did.html
Dissociative Identity Disorder
(formerly Multiple Personality Disorder)
Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), previously referred to as multiple
personality disorder (MPD), is a dissociative disorder involving a
disturbance of identity in which two or more separate and distinct
personality states (or identities) control the individual's behavior at
different times. When under the control of one identity, the person is
usually unable to remember some of the events that occurred while other
personalities were in control. The different identities, referred to as
alters, may exhibit differences in speech, mannerisms, attitudes, thoughts,
and gender orientation. The alters may even differ in "physical" properties
such as allergies, right-or-left handedness, or the need for eyeglass
prescriptions. These differences between alters are often quite striking.
The person with DID may have as few as two alters, or as many as 100. The
average number is about 10. Often alters are stable over time, continuing to
play specific roles in the person's life for years. Some alters may harbor
aggressive tendencies, directed toward individuals in the person's
environment, or toward other alters within the person.
At the time that a person with DID first seeks professional help, he or she
is usually not aware of the condition. A very common complaint in people
with DID is episodes of amnesia, or time loss. These individuals may be
unable to remember events in all or part of a proceeding time period. They
may repeatedly encounter unfamiliar people who claim to know them, find
themselves somewhere without knowing how they got there, or find items that
they don't remember purchasing among their possessions.
Often people with DID are depressed or even suicidal, and self-mutilation is
common in this group. Approximately one-third of patients complain of
auditory or visual hallucinations. It is common for these patients to
complain that they hear voices within their head.
Treatment for DID consists primarily of psychotherapy with hypnosis. The
therapist seeks to make contact with as many alters as possible and to
understand their roles and functions in the patient's life. In particular,
the therapist seeks to form an effective relationship with any personalities
that are responsible for violent or self-destructive behavior, and to curb
this behavior. The therapist seeks to establish communication among the
personality states and to find ones that have memories of traumatic events
in the patient's past. The goal of the therapist is to enable the patient to
achieve breakdown of the patient's separate identities and their unification
into a single identity.
Retrieving and dealing with memories of trauma is important for the person
with DID, because this disorder is believed to be caused by physical or
sexual abuse in childhood. Young children have a pronounced ability to
dissociate, and it is believed that those who are abused may learn to use
dissociation as a defense. In effect, the child slips into a state of mind
in which it seems that the abuse is not really occurring to him or her, but
to somebody else. In time, such a child may begin to split off alter
identities. Research has shown that the average age for the initial
development of alters is 5.9 years.
Children with DID have a great variety of symptoms, including depressive
tendencies, anxiety, conduct problems, episodes of amnesia, difficulty
paying attention in school, and hallucinations. Often these children are
misdiagnosed as having schizophrenia. By the time the child reaches
adolescence, it is less difficult for a mental health professional to
recognize the symptoms and make a diagnosis of DID.
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Gladstone
"starwars" <nob...@tatooine.homelinux.net> wrote in message
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> Given how often we've savaged the Times, it's only fair to give
> them credit for publishing this fine piece.
It's nothing but contrived propaganda, only a gullible rightard would
believe it.
Ken Smith
> Power Line
> http://powerlineblog.com
>
> We are far from the first to point out this superb op-ed by an
> Marine Major stationed in Najaf, which appeared in this
> morning's New York Times. If you haven't read it, you should. He
> provides a riveting account of the Battle of Najaf:
>
> "The battle has been surreal, focused largely in the cemetery,
> where families continue burying their dead even as I swoop in
> low overhead to make sure they aren't sneaking in behind our
> forces' flanks, or pulling a surface-to-air missile out of the
> coffin. Children continue playing soccer in the dirt fields next
> door, and locals wave to us as we fly over their rooftops in
> preparation for gun runs into the enemy's positions."
>
> And the importance of supporting the troops in their mission,
> not just in the abstract, has never been put more eloquently:
You can't help but wonder whether this just isn't another one of
those ghost-written propaganda pieces cooked up by the Dirty Tricks
Department of the Bush/Rove Administration. They've already fabricated
letters from soldiers before, and they have blank templates for letters
to the editor for the BushKultie zombies to send.
Roger
Powerline Blog is Three Lawyers:
From http://www.claremont.org/about/staff/hinderaker.html
John H. Hinderaker
"Hindrocket"
John H. Hinderaker is a lawyer with the Minneapolis law firm Faegre &
Benson. For the past ten years Mr. Hinderaker has written with Institute
fellow Scott Johnson on public policy issues including income inequality,
income taxes, campaign finance reform, affirmative action, welfare reform,
and race in the criminal justice system. Their articles have appeared in
National Review, The American Enterprise, American Experiment Quarterly, and
newspapers from Florida to California.
Mr. Hinderaker lives with his family in Apple Valley, Minnesota. He is a
graduate of Dartmouth College and Harvard Law School. He can be reached by
phone at (612)766-8430.
From http://www.claremont.org/about/staff/johnson.html
Scott W. Johnson
"The Big Trunk"
Scott W. Johnson is an attorney and senior vice president of TCF National
Bank in Minneapolis. For the past 10 years Mr. Johnson has written with
Institute fellow John H. Hinderaker on public policy issues including income
inequality, income taxes, campaign finance reform, affirmative action,
welfare reform, and race in the criminal justice system. Their articles have
appeared in National Review, The American Enterprise, American Experiment
Quarterly, and newspapers from Florida to California.
In addition, Johnson and Hinderaker comment on current events on their web
log.
Mr. Johnson lives with his family in St. Paul, Minnesota. He is a graduate
of Dartmouth College and the University of Minnesota Law School. He can be
reached by phone at (612) 661-8879.
From http://www.geocities.com/pmirengoff/mypage.html
Paul Mirengoff is a lawyer at the Akin, Gump firm in Washington D.C. He
graduated from Dartmouth College in 1971 and Stanford Law School in 1974.
His law practice has focused primarily on employment litigation. For
several years he worked for the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
Paul has authored op-eds for several newspapers, including the Washington
Post, and is currently a contributor to the Power Line web log, where he
writes under his long-time nickname, Deacon. Paul lives in Bethesda,
Maryland with his wife and two daughters.
Ken Smith
I'm talking about the letter, published in the New York Times. Bush
and Rove have pulled it before, and it's quite likely that they pulled
it again. The author may never know that he wrote it....
The Frenchurian Candidate
>Roger wrote:
>> "Ken Smith" <for...@it.com> wrote in message
>news:412B41E1...@it.com...
>>
>>>starwars wrote:
>>>
>>>>Power Line
>>>>http://powerlineblog.com
>>>>
>>>>We are far from the first to point out this superb op-ed by an
>>>>Marine Major stationed in Najaf, which appeared in this
>>>>morning's New York Times. If you haven't read it, you should. He
>>>>provides a riveting account of the Battle of Najaf:
>>>>
>>>>"The battle has been surreal, focused largely in the cemetery,
>>>>where families continue burying their dead even as I swoop in
>>>>low overhead to make sure they aren't sneaking in behind our
>>>>forces' flanks, or pulling a surface-to-air missile out of the
>>>>coffin. Children continue playing soccer in the dirt fields next
>>>>door, and locals wave to us as we fly over their rooftops in
>>>>preparation for gun runs into the enemy's positions."
>>>>
>>>>And the importance of supporting the troops in their mission,
>>>>not just in the abstract, has never been put more eloquently:
>>>
>>> You can't help but wonder whether this just isn't another one of
>>>those ghost-written propaganda pieces cooked up by the Dirty Tricks
>>>Department of the Bush/Rove Administration. They've already fabricated
>>>letters from soldiers before,
Oh? How about some examples? And how can a supportive letter from a marine be
a "Dirty Trick"??????????????
and they have blank templates for letters
>>>to the editor for the BushKultie zombies to send.
Well that piece certainly wasn't a blank template. (quaere: how can a
template be BLANK, anyway?)
Listen up, Stupe: it's fact-free assertions like this that kept you from being
a lawyer.
>>
>> Powerline Blog is Three Lawyers:
>>
>> From http://www.claremont.org/about/staff/hinderaker.html
>>
>> John H. Hinderaker
>> "Hindrocket"
>>
>> John H. Hinderaker is a lawyer with the Minneapolis law firm Faegre &
>> Benson. For the past ten years Mr. Hinderaker has written with Institute
>> fellow Scott Johnson on public policy issues including income inequality,
>> income taxes, campaign finance reform, affirmative action, welfare reform,
>> and race in the criminal justice system. Their articles have appeared in
>> National Review, The American Enterprise, American Experiment Quarterly,
>and
>> newspapers from Florida to California.
>
> I'm talking about the letter, published in the New York Times. Bush
>and Rove have pulled it before, and it's quite likely that they pulled
>it again. The author may never know that he wrote it....
>
Yeah, our solidiers in Iraq don't get email, can't use cell phones, don't watch
TV, or listen to the AFN. So the guy will never know that he's been used!!
BWAAAAhahahahhahahaaaaa!!!!
Oh and btw: I got another letter published in the New York Times two weeks
ago.
I KNOW that they just don't publish without checking.
They ALWAYS check the bona fides of people who write unsolicited columns and
letters. You have to give them your name, phone number, address etc. or they
won't publish.
You could email Lawrence Levi and Mary Drohan, two people at the Times with
whom I corresponded and talked to over the phone before they published my
letterS in the Times over the past few years.
Just ASK them what they do to check you out.
Face it, Ken: you're a FLAKE.
And we all know your animosity toward REAL lawyers, a learned fraternity that
you will never join, at least not in Colorado!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~
"This is John Effing Kerry, and I fucking approved this fucking message."
Ken Smith
Certain "letters from Marines" earlier in the war were in fact
forged. You can probably google it.
> and they have blank templates for letters
>
>>>>to the editor for the BushKultie zombies to send.
>
> Well that piece certainly wasn't a blank template. (quaere: how can a
> template be BLANK, anyway?)
You cut and paste their stock phrases on your own, cowboy. See
http://www.georgewbush.com/Students/GetActive/WriteNewspapers.aspx.
It's shameless, but that's your stock in trade.
>
> Listen up, Stupe: it's fact-free assertions like this that kept you from being
> a lawyer.
Listen up, Stupe! Fact-free assertions are more your stock in trade
than mine.
>>>Powerline Blog is Three Lawyers:
>>>
>>>From http://www.claremont.org/about/staff/hinderaker.html
>>>
>>>John H. Hinderaker
>>>"Hindrocket"
>>>
>>>John H. Hinderaker is a lawyer with the Minneapolis law firm Faegre &
>>>Benson. For the past ten years Mr. Hinderaker has written with Institute
>>>fellow Scott Johnson on public policy issues including income inequality,
>>>income taxes, campaign finance reform, affirmative action, welfare reform,
>>>and race in the criminal justice system. Their articles have appeared in
>>>National Review, The American Enterprise, American Experiment Quarterly,
>>>and newspapers from Florida to California.
>>
>> I'm talking about the letter, published in the New York Times. Bush
>>and Rove have pulled it before, and it's quite likely that they pulled
>>it again. The author may never know that he wrote it....
> Yeah, our solidiers in Iraq don't get email, can't use cell phones, don't watch
> TV, or listen to the AFN. So the guy will never know that he's been used!!
That's how we *found out* about the fraudulent letters, cowboy.
Someone contacted a soldier, who didn't write the letter, and a story
was born.
>
> BWAAAAhahahahhahahaaaaa!!!!
>
> Oh and btw: I got another letter published in the New York Times two weeks
> ago. I KNOW that they just don't publish without checking.
It's tough to check letters from Iraq. Something about not having a
permanent address....
>
> They ALWAYS check the bona fides of people who write unsolicited columns and
> letters. You have to give them your name, phone number, address etc. or they
> won't publish.
>
> You could email Lawrence Levi and Mary Drohan, two people at the Times with
> whom I corresponded and talked to over the phone before they published my
> letterS in the Times over the past few years.
>
> Just ASK them what they do to check you out.
Fine. Will they know you as "The Frenchurian Candidate?" Or perhaps
you would like to give us your REAL name? I will be sure to drop them a
line, you cowardly piece of shit.