On Columbus Day, Correcting Columbus' Legacy
Gandalf Grey
On Columbus Day, Correcting Columbus' Legacy
by Mark Anthony Rolo
On Monday, Oct. 13, schoolteachers across the nation should find the courage
to speak the truth about the man who sailed the ocean blue in 1492.
Trying to explain to youngsters how this country came to be is surely no
easy task.
How can you sugarcoat telling a fourth-grader that Columbus did not
"discover" the "new" world - that he more accurately opened the door to
conquering it?
How do you explain to a fifth-grader that the only measurable blood spilled
in Columbus' encounter was that of indigenous Caribbean islanders?
Can you even use the word "genocide" in a sixth-grade classroom?
There was a time in this country once when celebrating the feats of Columbus
and his successors was less complicated. Only a generation ago, students did
not learn the full extent of Columbus' impact on the peoples who inhabited
this continent.
But let's set the historical record straight.
Hundreds of thousands of indigenous Taino Indians were raped, murdered, and
forced into brutal slavery as a result of Columbus' conquest. Much of the
Taino population fell to new diseases such as smallpox. Extinction is all
that remains of the Taino today.
Those who like to honor Columbus would have us believe that bringing up the
darker side of the explorer is an attempt to blow the man's memory off
course.
But these facts of genocide and land theft are not part of a revisionist,
false history. In his own words spelled, out in his personal diary, Columbus
acknowledged his scheme to subjugate the Taino Indians: "I could conquer the
whole of them with 50 men, and govern them as I pleased."
Columbus' men rounded up 1,500 people and selected 500 as slaves to be
shipped off to Spain. Two hundred died en route. This did not deter
Columbus, who, according to historian Howard Zinn, later wrote: "Let us in
the name of the Holy Trinity go on sending all the slaves that can be sold."
Some defenders of Columbus fall back on the rationale that he was just a man
of his time, with the prejudices that prevailed. But one of Columbus' own
contemporaries, Bartoleme de las Casas, a Spanish colonist turned priest,
spent his last years trying to wash the indigenous blood from his hands by
calling for an end to the slave trade.
This year many teachers may stress tolerance of opposing views as they try
to bring a broader and more balanced view of Columbus' legacy into the
classroom. But a lesson plan on tolerance won't do.
Putting an end to the hero worship of Columbus begins with telling the
truth: Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 not to explore, but to conquer
with domination, brutality and - yes - genocide.
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527_blue_collar_conservative
Gandalf Grey
"527_blue_collar_Babs" <blue_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Prove he isn't.
Prove he is, Babs.
>
>
Lamont Cranston
> Prove he isn't.
ROTFL!
Prove that he is. Then prove what law it breaks.
You poor dumb fucker, KKKwifi. You are shitting your pants
now. What are you going to do after Obama is elected?
Bugman
"527_blue_collar_conservative" <blue_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> Prove he isn't.
Prove you're not brain damaged
Tops...@aol.com
<blue_col...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Blue/Babs/Dope/
Our country is in crisis. So let's be positve instead of negative.
Please list 10 accomplishments of the current republican
administation. This would really help me and other realize why we
should vote republican.
topset72
Leon Trollski
Christopher Helms
I'd settle for three or so. I've heard "We haven't been attacked since
9/11," usually used to defend the Iraq invasion. Nobody has ever made
a convincing argument as to what the two things have to do with each
other though.
Galen Hekhuis
Somehow the Bush administration has made people believe that the first
attack was some kind of "freebie."
Gary DeWaay
blue_...@hotmail.com 527_blue_collar_conservative says...
> Prove he isn't.
>
>
>
McCain looks like a wife-beater.
Prove he doesn't.
.the_pc_jellybean!!..
"Gary DeWaay" <dewaay2...@sio.midco.net> wrote in message
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Little Johnny "Sidney The Shirtlifter" MCain is a kiddie fiddler
Prove he isnt.
Galen Hekhuis
Easy. McCain was a POW.
Gandalf Grey
"Galen Hekhuis" <ghek...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Which only proves that he spent some time doing whatever he was told by the
VC. So prove that McCain doesn't beat his wife.
Galen Hekhuis
Don't you know? Having been a POW not only proves you didn't beat
your wife, it is also a breath mint.
Gandalf Grey
Outstanding! So actually, McCain can't be responsible for all the hate and
bigotry that's coming out of his campaign because he was a POW.
Suddenly, it's all clear to me.
ayatollah obama
> "527_blue_collar_Babs" <blue_col...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:GaCdnbybZ7y-Q2nV...@giganews.com...
>
> > Prove he isn't.
>
> Prove he is, Babs.
>
He grew up a muslim as an Indonesian citizen.
He reentered his muslim faith during the Occidental and Columbia
years.
In 1981, he travelled to Pakistan to visit his muslim roommates from
college during spring break. He travelled to Jacobab, PK (Within 150
miles of where bin laden and the taliban were based). obama is VERY
quiet about his Columbia years???? why is that???? what's he trying to
hide???
He wrote "Nightmares from my Father" why living in a muslim country
(Bali) for 3 months.
He used his Saudi muslim connections to gain entry to HLS.
He has strong ties to the palestinian and muslim communities in
Chicago... rezko, khalidi, auchi, and many many others.
He is loved by the international muslim community, they STILL think
he's a muslim!
kT
> He is loved by the international community
That can only be good.
Slim
how can that be good. they want to knock us down to raise themselves
up. think about it.
Gandalf Grey
"ayatollah orighty" <osama.obabm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 14, 1:04 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "527_blue_collar_Babs" <blue_col...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:GaCdnbybZ7y-Q2nV...@giganews.com...
>
> > Prove he isn't.
>
> Prove he is, Babs.
>
% He grew up a muslim as an Indonesian citizen.
Prove it.
kT
I think rather they want to help, us now that they can see we are taking
even the very first modest steps to help ourselves. The only reason you
didn't see another stock meltdown today is because of the rational and
coordinated response of the European financial community.
It's their problem as well. You can only behave irrationally for just so
long before shit hits the fan, and I have to tell you this, shit has
only just begun to hit the fan, you have no idea. You are clueless.
But go ahead, continue to live your life in your delusional dream world.
Slim
that is delusional.
Slim
kT
Change happens all the time. It's called evolution.
Apparently you have a problem with that. Hence, your problems remain.
Slim
congress is in meltdown. I have no problems, unlike you libs, who see
problems around every corner.
kT
You are an ignorant uneducated American.
> I have no problems
Because you are uneducated. Thus, your ignorance.
> unlike you libs, who see
> problems around every corner.
For you, the world is a better place when all can be attributed to God.
Slim
this hatred and accusation u throw around only define u.
kT
You see hatred where none exists. You are delusional. I am simply
stating the obvious conclusion. that you are so poorly educated, that
you simply cannot understand the dire situation civilization has put
itself in on this planet, precisely because of the billions of
uneducated and ineducable people just like you. It's a problem.
You can't spell either. Have you considered yet the possible educational
benefits you might receive by applying to your local elementary school?
Slim
can't control your boyfriend but think u can control the world. no
wonder u r a miserable deluded hate filled attack machine against things
u cannot understand and have no control over. maybe u should put
yourself out of your misery. that would solve several of your problems
at once.
Gandalf Grey
"Slim" <s...@im.org> wrote in message
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Cite?
otherwise, shove off. You're blocking the view.
kT
Those aren't even typos. You are willingly ignorant.
> u r a miserable deluded hate filled attack machine against things
> u cannot understand and have no control over.
Tell us what those things are then.
> maybe u should put
> yourself out of your misery. that would solve several of your problems
> at once.
That's precisely what I would expect an uneducated fascist would say,
when confronted with fundamental truths conflicting with their beliefs.
Your response to knowledge is entirely predictable.
Slim
Slim
robw
"ayatollah obama" <osama.obabm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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kT
> what knowledge?
Classic. You have outdone yourself. Bravo.
ayatollah obama
> Not working.
wobie the wobot, the only thing not working here are the hampsters
trying to run the gear box in your cranial cavity. Did you lose a cog
again? Is that what you did in Houston??? cogging?
kT
> On Oct 14, 9:53 pm, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Not working.
> the only thing not working here
is America. We intend to change that.
Slim
is this the kind of knowledge Obammy voters use to justify their votes
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=194983&comments=1#comments
that's classic. thank you.
kT
Slim
with me as I have a life. buh by.. please have the last word now so u
can feel as though u have won something in life.
kT
Have fun at whatever menial job you will be performing tomorrow.
Say hi to all the pretty girls in your middle school for me, thanks!
Gandalf Grey
In other words "u" got nothing. Take a hike, troll.
robw
And to expose a computer chair cunt.
Looks like we did both.
(snicker)
+that's how you use it+
"ayatollah obama" <osama.obabm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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ayatollah obama
I'm sure you uberlib, socialist, marxist, fanatics are foaming at the
mouth to start your first Five Year plan the Soviets always used! I
guess Item #1 on your agenda..... "Cultural Revolution"!
Forget the "fairness Doctrine", won't need that with the reeducation
camps... all kids will be taught the ayers/dorhn method....
"Summerhill"
Will "burn baby burn & I love Manson" dorhn or "kill your parents"
ayers be Secretary of reEducation?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring
the revolution home. Kill your parents, that's where it's really at."
--Bill Ayers, Weather Underground, 1970
kT
> On Oct 14, 10:01 pm, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
>> ayatollah obama wrote:
>>> On Oct 14, 9:53 pm, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Not working.
>>> the only thing not working here
>> is America. We intend to change that.
>
> I'm sure you uberlib, socialist, marxist, fanatics
Republican conservatism is a demonstrated failure.
Not even Barack Obama can fix that for you.
ayatollah obama
> No, we were in Houston to go to the Rothko Chapel and renew our vows.
>
> And to expose a computer chair cunt.
>
> Looks like we did both.
>
> (snicker)
>
> +that's how you use it+
>
>
> news:64744e81-9e20-4e77...@a19g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 14, 9:53 pm, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Not working.
>
> wobie the wobot, the only thing not working here are the hampsters
> trying to run the gear box in your cranial cavity. Did you lose a cog
> again? Is that what you did in Houston??? cogging?
I looked it up... Heart of the "happy" section of Houston...
Montrose.... I guess you 2nd honeymooned a couple of blocks away on
Montrose for the "gay" pride festival.
wobie the wobot got he diode greased... congrats
"The Rothko Chapel is alive with religious ceremonies of all faiths
and diverse programs to
engage audiences intellectually, artistically and spiritually. It is a
place where the experience and understanding of all traditions and
cultures are encouraged and made available."
kT
> "The Rothko Chapel is alive with religious ceremonies of all faiths
> and diverse programs to
> engage audiences intellectually, artistically and spiritually. It is a
> place where the experience and understanding of all traditions and
> cultures are encouraged and made available."
Can you explain to us what exactly are your problems with this?
No distinguishing imaginary deities here, all are equally imaginary.
What Me Worry?
"kT" <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:8ccJk.106$wH6...@newsfe09.iad...
> ayatollah obama wrote:
>
>> He is loved by the international community
>
> That can only be good.
Not if you're a mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, illiterate Republican
xenophobic jesus-jumper.
Phlip
>>>>
>>>> Prove it.
>>> "my Muslim religion" straight from the Messiah's pie hole.
>>
>> Cite?
>>
>> otherwise, shove off. You're blocking the view.
> u must be on welfare. do your own research.
Didn't we hear it from that Andy guy? The professional con artist with an
attention complex?
nys999
news:jfWdnf6IM8VnTWnV...@earthlink.com:
> Published on Monday, October 13, 2008 by The Progressive
>
> On Columbus Day, Correcting Columbus' Legacy
>
> by Mark Anthony Rolo
>
>
>
> On Monday, Oct. 13, schoolteachers across the nation should find the
> courage to speak the truth about the man who sailed the ocean blue in
> 1492.
>
> Trying to explain to youngsters how this country came to be is surely
> no easy task.
>
> How can you sugarcoat telling a fourth-grader that Columbus did not
> "discover" the "new" world - that he more accurately opened the door
> to conquering it?
>
> How do you explain to a fifth-grader that the only measurable blood
> spilled in Columbus' encounter was that of indigenous Caribbean
> islanders?
>
> Can you even use the word "genocide" in a sixth-grade classroom?
>
> There was a time in this country once when celebrating the feats of
> Columbus and his successors was less complicated. Only a generation
> ago, students did not learn the full extent of Columbus' impact on the
> peoples who inhabited this continent.
>
> But let's set the historical record straight.
>
> Hundreds of thousands of indigenous Taino Indians were raped,
> murdered, and forced into brutal slavery as a result of Columbus'
> conquest. Much of the Taino population fell to new diseases such as
> smallpox. Extinction is all that remains of the Taino today.
>
> Those who like to honor Columbus would have us believe that bringing
> up the darker side of the explorer is an attempt to blow the man's
> memory off course.
>
> But these facts of genocide and land theft are not part of a
> revisionist, false history. In his own words spelled, out in his
> personal diary, Columbus acknowledged his scheme to subjugate the
> Taino Indians: "I could conquer the whole of them with 50 men, and
> govern them as I pleased."
>
> Columbus' men rounded up 1,500 people and selected 500 as slaves to be
> shipped off to Spain. Two hundred died en route. This did not deter
> Columbus, who, according to historian Howard Zinn, later wrote: "Let
> us in the name of the Holy Trinity go on sending all the slaves that
> can be sold."
>
> Some defenders of Columbus fall back on the rationale that he was just
> a man of his time, with the prejudices that prevailed. But one of
> Columbus' own contemporaries, Bartoleme de las Casas, a Spanish
> colonist turned priest, spent his last years trying to wash the
> indigenous blood from his hands by calling for an end to the slave
> trade.
>
> This year many teachers may stress tolerance of opposing views as they
> try to bring a broader and more balanced view of Columbus' legacy into
> the classroom. But a lesson plan on tolerance won't do.
>
> Putting an end to the hero worship of Columbus begins with telling the
> truth: Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 not to explore, but to
> conquer with domination, brutality and - yes - genocide.
>
> Copyright 2008 The Progressive Magazine
>
The problem I have with this is it implies Columbus was uniquely a bad
person. He was a man of his era. He was a christian/catholic whose
morality is simply a reflection of church dogma which hasn't evolved
overly much in the last 500+ years.
Slim
Roy Blankenship
"nys999" <nys...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I think it is a breath of fresh air to finally have our children learning
the truth about our history.
BikeFan
> On Oct 14, 1:04 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "527_blue_collar_Babs" <blue_col...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:GaCdnbybZ7y-Q2nV...@giganews.com...
>>
>>> Prove he isn't.
>> Prove he is, Babs.
>>
>
>
> years.
>
> In 1981, he travelled to Pakistan to visit his muslim roommates from
> college during spring break. He travelled to Jacobab, PK (Within 150
> miles of where bin laden and the taliban were based). obama is VERY
> quiet about his Columbia years???? why is that???? what's he trying to
> hide???
>
> He wrote "Nightmares from my Father" why living in a muslim country
> (Bali) for 3 months.
>
> He used his Saudi muslim connections to gain entry to HLS.
>
> He has strong ties to the palestinian and muslim communities in
> Chicago... rezko, khalidi, auchi, and many many others.
>
> He is loved by the international muslim community, they STILL think
> he's a muslim!
Even if he was, why do you want to deny equal rights to Muslims as
citizens of the US? Your position is disgustingly racist and xenophobic.
--
BikeFan
Hugh Wood
>
> - Show quoted text -
Rattling the monkey's cage again are ya' Ayatollah?? Be careful. He'll
"destroy" you (snicker).
Hugh Wood
>
> - Show quoted text -
So you have no problem with an America hating,racist,muslim marxist as
your POTUS?? You people are downright insane.
BikeFan
There is no America-hating, racist, Muslim, Marxist standing for
President despite much lying to the contrary. What I don't get is that
the GOP claims to the "Christian" party but tolerates so many people
like you that bear false witness. How is that so?
--
BikeFan
Phlip
> person. He was a man of his era. He was a christian/catholic whose
> morality is simply a reflection of church dogma which hasn't evolved
> overly much in the last 500+ years.
He also lied about the known circumference of the earth. If he hadn't hit
the Americas, he would have simply died with his crew.
Phlip
I heard of someone who used their Saudi muslim connections to trigger a
terror attack on the USA, just to pass the Patriot Act and go to war with
the Saudis' enemies.
> So you have no problem with an America hating,racist,muslim marxist as
> your POTUS??
That sounds like a step up from the current situation.
4787 Dead
Go take your meds, Huey.
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American Academy of Actuaries.
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Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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ayatollah obama
Pull your head out of the sand!
Let's look at a partial list of his friends.... rezko, auchi, ayers,
dorhn, khaldi, wright.... what winners these people are!
Grew up a muslim as a Indonesian citizen
Reentered his muslim faith while at Occidental and Columbia,
Travelled to Pakistan in 1981 on his Indonesian passport during spring
break to visit his muslim roommates from Occidental and Columbia. He
travelled open country to Hyderbad and Jacocbab PK (Jacobab is within
150 miles of where bin laden was based in Quetta PK).
After graduating from Columbia without honors, he suddenly was
admitted to HLS using his Saudi muslim connections.
His Cousin odinga struct a deal with the muslims in Kenya to bring
sharia to the country in exchange for thier support. His cousin
rounded up women and childrean and herded them into a Church where he
roasted toasted them... Sounds like Waco. obama campaigned for his
cousin so much (at taxpayer expense) that Kenya complained to the US
Government!
The muslim world STILL think he's a muslim!
Look at who his close associates and friends are! all muslime or
radicals that all have the same thing in common.... they HATE AMERICA!
ayatollah obama
>
> - Show quoted text -
yeah, It looks like wobie the wobot is one of those "happy" people!
He's got a cog stuck! we know where his lube hole is!
ayatollah obama
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'm not at all against giving muslime equal rights.... in their
country. If they don't want to assimilate into our country and
culture... let them return to the "tolerant" middle east! If you want
to learn about i-slam, go read the koran and then the hadiths... go
read about the Assyrians who still live in Iraq and still speak the
language of the Christ.... If you still feel they are tolerant
peoples... I'll buy you a virtual beer!
Nothing "racist" about being against a lifestyle choice! If you want
to be a queer or muslime, that's your choice.... go do it. I couldn't
care less what you do in your own bedroom or mosque. When you try and
force it upon society and me, I have a REAL fucking problem with it.
Of course I haven't seen gays fly perfectly good airplanes into
perfectly good buildings, nor go blow up perfectly good markets and
people!
i-slam is a lifestyle choice not a "race"
Reaper G
516 years ago. Time to move on.
kT
> sure, child molester.
I don't watch TV. What's a child molester?
BikeFan
Tell me about your views on bearing false witness. Or does your post
speak for itself?
--
BikeFan
kT
> So you have no problem with an America hating,racist,muslim marxist as
> your POTUS??
If he wins the election, there isn't much I can do about it.
> You people are downright insane.
For putting up with a terrorist and war criminal as president of the
United States of America for the last eight years? I totally agree.
kT
> I'm not at all against giving muslime equal rights.... in their
> country. If they don't want to assimilate into our country and
> culture...
What country and culture? You have demonstrated yourself to be bereft of
culture, you've demonstrated only dereliction of duty, and in the words
of Keith Olbermann, you are a clear and present danger to the nation.
Slim
kT
I can see you've got new orders from you fuhrer, troll.
Orders from the reich : if you can't win on the issues, troll.
Slim
BikeFan
Racist hate speech. You'd sure squeal like a stuck pig if we did it to
you and your minority wouldn't you? Minorities like you should stop
stirring up shit when you are MINORITIES. It can backfire big time.
Take you racial and religious hatreds elsewhere, they do not belong in
the USA or West.
--
BikeFan
BikeFan
Oh, the US still is a nation despite what lunatics aspire to.
--
BikeFan
ayatollah obama
What a Hate Filled tone you have taken! Oh, of course, freedom of
speech is only for those of you the messiah has annointed and blessed
their pointed little pea-brained heads!
I'll tell you one thing, people like you make me want to change my
opinion on abortion! damn shame your momma didn't exercise her "right"
with you!
robw
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robw
You're NoNadds under another name.
The same gutless cunt thaT backed down from two pacifists.
Have you no pride?
"ayatollah obama" <osama.obabm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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robw
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BikeFan
I have not uttered a hateful thing here, only you have. You sound demented.
--
BikeFan
ayatollah obama
> You say you live in Houston but had to "look up" the chapel.
>
> You're NoNadds under another name.
>
> The same gutless cunt thaT backed down from two pacifists.
>
> Have you no pride?
>
>
> news:b004c967-4052-4840...@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 14, 10:24 pm, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > No, we were in Houston to go to the Rothko Chapel and renew our vows.
>
> > And to expose a computer chair cunt.
>
> > Looks like we did both.
>
> > (snicker)
>
> > +that's how you use it+
>
> > "ayatollah obama" <osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:64744e81-9e20-4e77...@a19g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> > On Oct 14, 9:53 pm, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > Not working.
>
> > wobie the wobot, the only thing not working here are the hampsters
> > trying to run the gear box in your cranial cavity. Did you lose a cog
> > again? Is that what you did in Houston??? cogging?
>
> I looked it up... Heart of the "happy" section of Houston...
> Montrose.... I guess you 2nd honeymooned a couple of blocks away on
> Montrose for the "gay" pride festival.
>
> wobie the wobot got he diode greased... congrats
>
> "The Rothko Chapel is alive with religious ceremonies of all faiths
> and diverse programs to
> engage audiences intellectually, artistically and spiritually. It is a
> place where the experience and understanding of all traditions and
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Sorry to disapoint you wobie the wobot, I do NOT hang out at THAT
facility nor the montrose area. The only reason I venture down there
is Niko Niko's... excellent Greek food that's been there a lot longer
than the "happy" people have, there is a Half Price Books I go to, and
the museums are just south of there.
wobie the wobot, your logic circuits are failing you! but then you
have DemonCrap 1.0 firmware installed.... upgrade before they become a
black market item in January!
And nope, I am not the great Nads! but thank you for the complement!
Paulie Walnutts
HHHHUUUHHHHUUUUWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Care for some french goat cheese with that pitiful whine??
HHUUHHUUHHWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
"Change"= Come-Help-A-Nigga-Get-Elected
Paulie Walnutts
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Better enjoy it while you can. We might be getting some "change".
robw
But, that's what you are.
A computer chair pussy.
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BikeFan
Naah, you haven't the spine for another civil war. You'll run like hell
to your second passport country.
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Gandalf Grey
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> "Gandalf Grey" <vali...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> person. He was a man of his era. He was a christian/catholic whose
> morality is simply a reflection of church dogma which hasn't evolved
> overly much in the last 500+ years.
I have to agree with you here. There's a trend toward absolutist morality
when it comes to history these days that's hardly justified when you look at
our own modern history. When does someone become a hero rather than a
villain? What percentage of his/her life has to be pristine before we're
willing to allow them the mantel of "goodness." When you consider the
world's present day circumstances with all of it's moral ralativity, we're
hardly in a position to write the final word on the past.
Paulie Walnutts
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> There is no America-hating, racist, Muslim, Marxist standing for
> President despite much lying to the contrary. What I don't get is that
> the GOP claims to the "Christian" party but tolerates so many people
> like you that bear false witness. How is that so?
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How do you KNOW Hussein is NOT an America hating marxist muslim??
Because it's not on his website?
Paulie Walnutts
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robw
Paulie Walnutts
Fuck you. Where can I find a fan for my bike Einstein?
kT
> How do you KNOW Hussein is NOT an America hating marxist muslim??
> Because it's not on his website?
Generally in America there is this rule of law : you are innocent until
proven guilty. I no in your petty little fascist world that just doesn't
apply, and that you can call anybody anything at all, without evidence.
Phlip
What do they know?? You just claimed they were clueless...
> Look at who his close associates and friends are! all muslime or radicals
> that all have the same thing in common.... they HATE AMERICA!
We had a muslim housemate once. (Oh, actually also a muslim client/boss,
too, but no anecdotes spring to mind.)
I'm still waiting for the subliminal hypnosis to take effect and make me
march out and start campaigning for president or whatever.
Actually, his mom once visited from Syria. She made stuffed eggplants before
she left, and I discovered a huge heap of them in our fridge.
So the next day, I got to tell my colleague; "I'm having a homemade Syrian
stuffed eggplant for lunch. Don't ask why!"
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Phlip