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Cicero Venatio

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Dec 17, 2009, 10:26:22 AM12/17/09
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Howard Dean says it�s time to scrap the Pelosi/Reid health care bill,
and start over. Other Democrats are also waking up to the fact that
this health care bill is simply a giant transfer of wealth from the
middle class to large corporations, insurance companies, and Unions
(bail outs). It does nothing to increase access, or to reduce the
health care expense to families. It�s a giant mess, and the Democrats
are going to pay a mighty price for this boondoggle that will not go
away regardless if it passes or not, in the next election.

Year one of Obama.

1. A health care bill that does more damage than doing nothing.
2. An escalation in the endless war in Afghanistan, done only because
Europeans want the USA to fight their wars for them.
3. The Copenhagen catastrophe, where US sovereignty will be signed away
by Obama. This will permit third world countries, such as Kenya, to tax
the American middle class directly in the name of social justice.
4. A Stimulus spending extravaganza to unions, government, GM, Chrysler,
Banks, Insurance companies that put the kibosh on employment for years
to come.
5. Holds weekly White House parties for all the journalists that worked
hard to get Obama elected a year ago. The konga line is regular feature
at these parties.

MACK DADDY

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Dec 17, 2009, 9:37:05 PM12/17/09
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On Dec 17, 7:26 am, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Howard Dean says it’s time to scrap the Pelosi/Reid health care bill,

> and start over.  Other Democrats are also waking up to the fact that
> this health care bill is simply a giant transfer of wealth from the
> middle class to large corporations, insurance companies, and Unions
> (bail outs).  It does nothing to increase access, or to reduce the
> health care expense to families.  It’s a giant mess, and the Democrats

> are going to pay a mighty price for this boondoggle that will not go
> away regardless if it passes or not, in the next election.
>
> Year one of Obama.
>
> 1.      A health care bill that does more damage than doing nothing.
> 2.      An escalation in the endless war in Afghanistan, done only because
> Europeans want the USA to fight their wars for them.
> 3.      The Copenhagen catastrophe, where US sovereignty will be signed away
> by Obama.  This will permit third world countries, such as Kenya, to tax
> the American middle class directly in the name of social justice.
> 4.      A Stimulus spending extravaganza to unions, government, GM, Chrysler,
> Banks, Insurance companies that put the kibosh on employment for years
> to come.
> 5.      Holds weekly White House parties for all the journalists that worked
> hard to get Obama elected a year ago.  The konga line is regular feature
> at these parties.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

For once I agree with you, Cuntous! The Democrats should scrap the
boondoggle health plan they have written up and introduce the Single
Payer plan!

Cicero Venatio

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Dec 18, 2009, 6:46:52 AM12/18/09
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MACK DADDY wrote:
> On Dec 17, 7:26 am, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Howard Dean says it�s time to scrap the Pelosi/Reid health care bill,

>> and start over. Other Democrats are also waking up to the fact that
>> this health care bill is simply a giant transfer of wealth from the
>> middle class to large corporations, insurance companies, and Unions
>> (bail outs). It does nothing to increase access, or to reduce the
>> health care expense to families. It�s a giant mess, and the Democrats

>> are going to pay a mighty price for this boondoggle that will not go
>> away regardless if it passes or not, in the next election.
>>
>> Year one of Obama.
>>
>> 1. A health care bill that does more damage than doing nothing.
>> 2. An escalation in the endless war in Afghanistan, done only because
>> Europeans want the USA to fight their wars for them.
>> 3. The Copenhagen catastrophe, where US sovereignty will be signed away
>> by Obama. This will permit third world countries, such as Kenya, to tax
>> the American middle class directly in the name of social justice.
>> 4. A Stimulus spending extravaganza to unions, government, GM, Chrysler,
>> Banks, Insurance companies that put the kibosh on employment for years
>> to come.
>> 5. Holds weekly White House parties for all the journalists that worked
>> hard to get Obama elected a year ago. The konga line is regular feature
>> at these parties.
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> For once I agree with you, Cuntous! The Democrats should scrap the
> boondoggle health plan they have written up and introduce the Single
> Payer plan!
--------------

Agreed, either the Democrats should do the real thing, single payer, or
shut-up forever about the subject.

MACK DADDY

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Dec 18, 2009, 9:51:01 AM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 3:46 am, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> MACK DADDY wrote:
> > On Dec 17, 7:26 am, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Howard Dean says it’s time to scrap the Pelosi/Reid health care bill,

> >> and start over.  Other Democrats are also waking up to the fact that
> >> this health care bill is simply a giant transfer of wealth from the
> >> middle class to large corporations, insurance companies, and Unions
> >> (bail outs).  It does nothing to increase access, or to reduce the
> >> health care expense to families.  It’s a giant mess, and the Democrats

> >> are going to pay a mighty price for this boondoggle that will not go
> >> away regardless if it passes or not, in the next election.
>
> >> Year one of Obama.
>
> >> 1.      A health care bill that does more damage than doing nothing.
> >> 2.      An escalation in the endless war in Afghanistan, done only because
> >> Europeans want the USA to fight their wars for them.
> >> 3.      The Copenhagen catastrophe, where US sovereignty will be signed away
> >> by Obama.  This will permit third world countries, such as Kenya, to tax
> >> the American middle class directly in the name of social justice.
> >> 4.      A Stimulus spending extravaganza to unions, government, GM, Chrysler,
> >> Banks, Insurance companies that put the kibosh on employment for years
> >> to come.
> >> 5.      Holds weekly White House parties for all the journalists that worked
> >> hard to get Obama elected a year ago.  The konga line is regular feature
> >> at these parties.
>
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > For once I agree with you, Cuntous!   The Democrats should scrap the
> > boondoggle health plan they have written up and introduce the Single
> > Payer plan!
>
> --------------
>
> Agreed, either the Democrats should do the real thing, single payer, or
> shut-up forever about the subject.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I don't think it's an either/or situation. Single Payer is the
correct answer. We will never shut up about how fucked up the
current insurance based corporate suck up insurance system is!

Christopher Helms

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Dec 18, 2009, 10:52:38 AM12/18/09
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On Dec 17, 9:26 am, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Howard Dean says it’s time to scrap the Pelosi/Reid health care bill,

> and start over.  Other Democrats are also waking up to the fact that
> this health care bill is simply a giant transfer of wealth from the
> middle class to large corporations, insurance companies, and Unions
> (bail outs).  It does nothing to increase access, or to reduce the
> health care expense to families.  It’s a giant mess, and the Democrats

> are going to pay a mighty price for this boondoggle that will not go
> away regardless if it passes or not, in the next election.
>
> Year one of Obama.
>
> 1.      A health care bill that does more damage than doing nothing.
> 2.      An escalation in the endless war in Afghanistan, done only because
> Europeans want the USA to fight their wars for them.
> 3.      The Copenhagen catastrophe, where US sovereignty will be signed away
> by Obama.  This will permit third world countries, such as Kenya, to tax
> the American middle class directly in the name of social justice.
> 4.      A Stimulus spending extravaganza to unions, government, GM, Chrysler,
> Banks, Insurance companies that put the kibosh on employment for years
> to come.
> 5.      Holds weekly White House parties for all the journalists that worked
> hard to get Obama elected a year ago.  The konga line is regular feature
> at these parties.


The problem with #1 is that conservatives like you have monkey fucked
a genuinely well intentioned healthcare reform bill into a gigantic
corporate bonanza. The problem with #2 is that conservatives like you
ignored Afghanistan for seven years until somebody had to get in there
and make up for years of Republican blather and neglect. The problem
with #3 is that grabbing yourself a nice fat piece of John Q Public's
tax bill started with George Bush and his TARP free for all and it's
been a financial land grab ever since for everybody from failed
corporations to failed AIG executives to useless government employees.
The problem with #4? See #3, since your beloved Child King George Bush
permanently opened that can of worms, too. #5 is another right wing
urban legend, like death panels, tax cuts spurring revenues or the
Obama administration threatening to shut down some desperately needed
military base that is bravely protecting North Dakota from invasion by
Canada.

Barack Hussein Bohica

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Dec 19, 2009, 3:08:29 AM12/19/09
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Far more productive to just scrap the Democrats.

Barack Hussein Bohica

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Dec 19, 2009, 3:11:18 AM12/19/09
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Your dealer is cutting your crack with Drano. The antidote is Clorox.
~Lots~ of Clorox.

MACK DADDY

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Dec 19, 2009, 5:37:20 AM12/19/09
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On Dec 19, 12:08 am, Barack Hussein Bohica
> Far more productive to just scrap the Democrats.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

Not all Democrats are the same. Just scrap the fascist ones who kiss
Republitard ass, like Joe Lieberman.

Barack Hussein Bohica

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Dec 20, 2009, 2:23:49 AM12/20/09
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Lieberman is no longer a Democrat.

Is there ~anything~ you can't get wrong, Smackers?

Yer Pal Al

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Dec 20, 2009, 3:03:31 AM12/20/09
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Republicans didn't do a gawd damned thing. They didn't have to. To get
their 60 votes the senate compromised to get Lieberman and Nelson.
This one was authored and cluster fucked by the Democrats in the House
and Senate who got their marching orders from Barry Hussein.

The Republicans never wanted anything other than what Howard "I Have a
Scream" Dean is wanting now - to put it out of its misery.

MACK DADDY

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:20:50 AM12/20/09
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On Dec 19, 11:23 pm, Barack Hussein Bohica
> Is there ~anything~ you can't get wrong, Smackers?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I never said he was a Democrat, except back before 2006 when he was.
But in case your fascist Republitard ass is unaware, he is still
masquerading as a Democrat in the Democrat caucass. You're so stupid!

MACK DADDY

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:24:43 AM12/20/09
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> Scream" Dean is wanting now - to put it out of its misery.- Hide quoted text -

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Lieberman is self-destructing his career by destroying health care.
He's been a total fucking asshole ever since Ned Lamont kicked his ass
out of the Democratic party!

Governor Swill

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Dec 20, 2009, 8:22:25 PM12/20/09
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Barack Hussein Bohica <Charlie...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:

>Lieberman is no longer a Democrat.

Was he ever?

Swill
--
In the exam room . . .
Doctor: "Public Opt . . ."

Elephant: "SOCIALISM!"

Doctor: "Reflexes good."

MACK DADDY

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Dec 20, 2009, 9:54:12 PM12/20/09
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On Dec 20, 5:22 pm, Governor Swill <governor.sw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Barack Hussein Bohica <CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>
> >Lieberman is no longer a Democrat.
>
> Was he ever?
>
> Swill
> --
> In the exam room . . .
> Doctor:  "Public Opt . . ."
>
> Elephant:  "SO!"
>
> Doctor:  "Reflexes good."

He had a D after his name prior to November '06, however he was never
a person I really liked, or trusted. I never understood why Gore
selected him as his running mate in 2000. Gore should have went with
someone more moderate such as John Kerry or Bernie Sanders.

Yer Pal Al

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Dec 20, 2009, 10:39:11 PM12/20/09
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The Democrats tried to get rid of him in 2006 and he kicked their ass.
I think he's doing OK for himself.

> He's been a total fucking asshole ever since Ned Lamont kicked his ass
> out of the Democratic party!

It sucks for you because the people of Connecticut reject your crazy-
assed ideas.

Barack Hussein Bohica

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:39:32 AM12/21/09
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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:20:50 -0800 (PST), MACK DADDY
<pepsiv...@msn.com> wrote:

>> >Not all Democrats are the same. Just scrap the fascist ones who kiss
>> >Republitard ass, like Joe Lieberman.
>>
>> Lieberman is no longer a Democrat.
>>
>> Is there ~anything~ you can't get wrong, Smackers?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>I never said he was a Democrat,

Actually, you said ~exactly~ that in the first line above.

>except back before 2006 when he was.
>But in case your fascist Republitard ass is unaware, he is still
>masquerading as a Democrat in the Democrat caucass. You're so stupid!

"Caucass". Dr. Freud, your 2:00 is here.

Barack Hussein Bohica

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:42:30 AM12/21/09
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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:54:12 -0800 (PST), MACK DADDY
<pepsiv...@msn.com> wrote:

>On Dec 20, 5:22�pm, Governor Swill <governor.sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Barack Hussein Bohica <CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>>
>> >Lieberman is no longer a Democrat.
>>
>> Was he ever?
>>
>> Swill
>> --
>> In the exam room . . .
>> Doctor: �"Public Opt . . ."
>>
>> Elephant: �"SO!"
>>
>> Doctor: �"Reflexes good."
>
>He had a D after his name prior to November '06, however he was never
>a person I really liked, or trusted. I never understood why Gore
>selected him as his running mate in 2000.

Didn't you know? Gore traded his brain in for a used douchebag. It's
been in all the papers.

>Gore should have went with
>someone more moderate such as John Kerry or Bernie Sanders.

Or a rightard like Obama? You don't seem to like him any more,
either. Buyer's remorse is a bitch.

MACK DADDY

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Dec 21, 2009, 9:58:14 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 21, 12:42 am, Barack Hussein Bohica
> either.  Buyer's remorse is a bitch.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

It's not exactly remorse. I don't regret not voting for John McBush!

Barack Hussein Bohica

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:57:22 AM12/22/09
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More fear, guilt, self-loathing, resignation...

>I don't regret not voting for John McBush!

Or voting on Wednesday.

MACK DADDY

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Dec 22, 2009, 9:34:02 PM12/22/09
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On Dec 22, 12:57 am, Barack Hussein Bohica
> Or voting on Wednesday.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

The election was Tuesday, biotch!

Barack Hussein Bohica

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Dec 23, 2009, 5:10:00 AM12/23/09
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Whoosh...

MACK DADDY

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Dec 23, 2009, 5:29:14 AM12/23/09
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On Dec 23, 2:10 am, Barack Hussein Bohica
> Whoosh...- Hide quoted text -

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You're so stupid!

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