Obama & the little people…
Cicero Venatio
Obama is on a tour now, asking the little people on how to solve the
growing unemployment problem. This is so stupid on so many levels. I
presume that the poor simple sheeple who voted for him, thought he
already had the answers, or why would they vote for him. He already
knows the answers, and that is to reverse all of the anti-business
policies he and his Democrats have moved forward. If the Democrats pass
the so called health care reform, it will lock in double digit
unemployment rates forever, just as it did in Europe. He wants to push
Unions, and look at heavily unionized Michigan; do you want to spread
that disaster to the rest of the country? And why were Unions
represented at the jobs summit anyway? They only asked for more
taxpayer money to subsidize their bloated hourly pay. The Unions will
not be happy until every last US manufacturing job is in China or Mexico.
Obama wakes up every morning, and asks the question why should white
middle class Americans have so much more than his countrymen in Kenya.
He has concluded the economic system is unfair and is now in the process
of dismantling it. The fact that America has a 12% unemployment rate
doesn�t bother him, when he compares it to the 38% rate that Kenya has.
MACK DADDY
Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
Yer Pal Al
Unions made Americans the highest paid ship builders and steel workers
in the world.
MACK DADDY
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Some people would have you believe that's a bad thing!
Barack Hussein Bohica
"Guaranteed Mediocrity at a Premium Price: Look for the Union Label!"
Yer Pal Al
Probably those insane people who point out that our steel industry is
1/100th of what it was and we don't make commercial shipping vessels
anymore.
MACK DADDY
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We barely make anything anymore.
Barack Hussein Bohica
...except fecal-cephalic moonbats.
MACK DADDY
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And Buttplugs for Rush Blimpballs and Glen Beck.
Barack Hussein Bohica
<pepsiv...@msn.com> wrote:
>On Dec 9, 1:11嚙窮m, Barack Hussein Bohica
><CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:54:01 -0800 (PST), MACK DADDY
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>> <pepsivani...@msn.com> wrote:
>> >On Dec 8, 10:03嚙窮m, Yer Pal Al <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Dec 7, 11:57嚙緘m, MACK DADDY <pepsivani...@msn.com> wrote:
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>> >> > On Dec 7, 7:46嚙緘m, Yer Pal Al <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> >> > > On Dec 7, 6:40嚙緘m, MACK DADDY <pepsivani...@msn.com> wrote:
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>> >> > > > On Dec 7, 4:16嚙緘m, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> >> > > > > Obama is on a tour now, asking the little people on how to solve the
>> >> > > > > growing unemployment problem. 嚙確his is so stupid on so many levels. 嚙瘢
>> >> > > > > presume that the poor simple sheeple who voted for him, thought he
>> >> > > > > already had the answers, or why would they vote for him. 嚙瘡e already
>> >> > > > > knows the answers, and that is to reverse all of the anti-business
>> >> > > > > policies he and his Democrats have moved forward. 嚙瘢f the Democrats pass
>> >> > > > > the so called health care reform, it will lock in double digit
>> >> > > > > unemployment rates forever, just as it did in Europe. 嚙瘡e wants to push
>> >> > > > > Unions, and look at heavily unionized Michigan; do you want to spread
>> >> > > > > that disaster to the rest of the country? 嚙璀nd why were Unions
>> >> > > > > represented at the jobs summit anyway? 嚙確hey only asked for more
>> >> > > > > taxpayer money to subsidize their bloated hourly pay. 嚙確he Unions will
>> >> > > > > not be happy until every last US manufacturing job is in China or Mexico.
>>
>> >> > > > > Obama wakes up every morning, and asks the question why should white
>> >> > > > > middle class Americans have so much more than his countrymen in Kenya.
>> >> > > > > He has concluded the economic system is unfair and is now in the process
>> >> > > > > of dismantling it. 嚙確he fact that America has a 12% unemployment rate
>> >> > > > > doesn嚙緣 bother him, when he compares it to the 38% rate that Kenya has.
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>> >> > > > Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
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>> >> > > Unions made Americans the highest paid ship builders and steel workers
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>> >> > Some people would have you believe that's a bad thing!
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>> >> Probably those insane people who point out that our steel industry is
>> >> 1/100th of what it was and we don't make commercial shipping vessels
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>> >We barely make anything anymore.
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>And Buttplugs for Rush Blimpballs and Glen Beck.
You got a job! Good boy!
bvallely
> Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
Tell that to Detroit, MI, Newark NJ, Trenton, NJ, and several other
war zones, formerly Union Towns.
bvallely
> Unions made Americans the highest paid ship builders and steel workers
> in the world.
And then other countries underbid us, and the jobs went bye-bye.
MACK DADDY
> >On Dec 9, 1:11 am, Barack Hussein Bohica
> ><CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:54:01 -0800 (PST), MACK DADDY
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> >> <pepsivani...@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Dec 7, 11:57 pm, MACK DADDY <pepsivani...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > On Dec 7, 7:46 pm, Yer Pal Al <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> >> > > On Dec 7, 6:40 pm, MACK DADDY <pepsivani...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > > On Dec 7, 4:16 pm, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > > > Obama is on a tour now, asking the little people on how to solve the
> >> >> > > > > presume that the poor simple sheeple who voted for him, thought he
> >> >> > > > > knows the answers, and that is to reverse all of the anti-business
> >> >> > > > > the so called health care reform, it will lock in double digit
> >> >> > > > > Unions, and look at heavily unionized Michigan; do you want to spread
> >> >> > > > > represented at the jobs summit anyway? They only asked for more
> >> >> > > > > taxpayer money to subsidize their bloated hourly pay. The Unions will
> >> >> > > > > not be happy until every last US manufacturing job is in China or Mexico.
>
> >> >> > > > > Obama wakes up every morning, and asks the question why should white
> >> >> > > > > middle class Americans have so much more than his countrymen in Kenya.
> >> >> > > > > He has concluded the economic system is unfair and is now in the process
> >> >> > > > > doesn’t bother him, when he compares it to the 38% rate that Kenya has.
>
> >> >> > > > Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
>
> >> >> > > Unions made Americans the highest paid ship builders and steel workers
> >> >> > > in the world.- Hide quoted text -
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> >> >> > Some people would have you believe that's a bad thing!
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> >> >> Probably those insane people who point out that our steel industry is
> >> >> 1/100th of what it was and we don't make commercial shipping vessels
> >> >> anymore.- Hide quoted text -
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> >> >We barely make anything anymore.
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> >> ...except fecal-cephalic moonbats.- Hide quoted text -
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> >And Buttplugs for Rush Blimpballs and Glen Beck.
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I already have a job, though I'm not a buttplug installer like
yourself!
MACK DADDY
Thats because Ronald Reagan got rid of tariffs.
bvallely
> > .> Unions made Americans the highest paid ship builders and steel workers
> > > in the world.
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> > And then other countries underbid us, and the jobs went bye-bye.
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> Thats because Ronald Reagan got rid of tariffs.
You're confusing him with Bill Clinton.
Mitchell Holman
8a88c2...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
Just like non-union companies in the software,
financial, and consumer goods fields. Try calling
your credit card or computer help line and NOT
end up speaking to someone in India.
"We lead in exporting jobs."
- Vice President Dan Quayle, 7/26/92
dilecticon
The Rock
"Mitchell Holman" <noe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9CDD3B3C5F2C7...@216.196.97.130...
If you guys remember, Reagan said on TV that "we're moving from
manufacturing
to service jobs" and no body said a thing about it. We are now seeing the
results.
Obama is trying to do everything he can to get jobs here, and the Repugs in
Congress
are putting every block they can to stop him. They want him to fail and
America
right along with him. These are the people that call Democrats unpatriotic!
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dilecticon
>
> Obama is trying to do everything he can to get jobs here,
By spending less than 3% of the stimulus funds on shovels-ready
projects...brilliant...
The Rock
"dilecticon" <d...@lect.edu> wrote in message
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Ahah, he is saving the money for the good jobs that Repugs in Congress gonna
try
to block him from doing, on GREEN jobs that will get us out of the oil mess
that
oil companies will be paying Congress people to vote against. The healthcare
is
just the beginning, the real fight is yet to come. The rightards want
America down,
dependent on oil from Middle East. We've seen the fight the right is putting
on
healthcare so the insurance indecent profit don't take a hit, this is
nothing compared
to what the oil biggies will put out to defeat the "green."
Yer Pal Al
Thanks to the unions.
Yer Pal Al
dilecticon
>
>
> "dilecticon" <d...@lect.edu> wrote in message
> news:hfrd27$b4f$4...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> The Rock wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> Obama is trying to do everything he can to get jobs here,
>>
>> By spending less than 3% of the stimulus funds on shovels-ready
>> projects...brilliant...
>
> Ahah, he is saving the money for the good jobs that Repugs in Congress
> gonna try
> to block him from doing, on GREEN jobs that will get us out of the oil
> mess that
> oil companies will be paying Congress people to vote against.
So 10% of the nation is going to be building solar panels and wind turbines?
LOLOL!
> The
> healthcare is
> just the beginning, the real fight is yet to come. The rightards want
> America down,
> dependent on oil from Middle East.
Right...is that why the Messiah was bowing to the Sudis?
> We've seen the fight the right is
> putting on
> healthcare so the insurance indecent profit don't take a hit, this is
> nothing compared
> to what the oil biggies will put out to defeat the "green."
Yer funny, in a pathetic way.
The Rock
"dilecticon" <d...@lect.edu> wrote in message
news:hfrfr2$3sk$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
> The Rock wrote:
>>
>>
>> "dilecticon" <d...@lect.edu> wrote in message
>> news:hfrd27$b4f$4...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> The Rock wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Obama is trying to do everything he can to get jobs here,
>>>
>>> By spending less than 3% of the stimulus funds on shovels-ready
>>> projects...brilliant...
>>
>> Ahah, he is saving the money for the good jobs that Repugs in Congress
>> gonna try
>> to block him from doing, on GREEN jobs that will get us out of the oil
>> mess that
>> oil companies will be paying Congress people to vote against.
>
> So 10% of the nation is going to be building solar panels and wind
> turbines?
>
> LOLOL!
Did 10% of the nation worked in the same jobs that president Bush help
shipped overseas? The restaurants that closed didn't go overseas, they lost
costumers,
those costumers lost their jobs, because people that lost their jobs were
not patronizing
their businesses. Are you getting the picture or do you want me to draw you
a picture?
When you create a job it in turn helps create other jobs. Still LOL? I'll
get you little twinnie
brain functioning soon.
>
>
>> The healthcare is
>> just the beginning, the real fight is yet to come. The rightards want
>> America down,
>> dependent on oil from Middle East.
>
> Right...is that why the Messiah was bowing to the Sudis?
>
Oh, I thought your Messiah was Bush or maybe Palin? She can see Russia from
her house. Hehehehe. ROTFLMAO. By the way, I prefer bowing than holding
hands
and kissing the Saudi.
Stay with me, I'll get you frying soon.
>> We've seen the fight the right is putting on
>> healthcare so the insurance indecent profit don't take a hit, this is
>> nothing compared
>> to what the oil biggies will put out to defeat the "green."
>
> Yer funny, in a pathetic way.
Pathetic for you eh? Heheheheh, am I hitting the bone?
You belong to a party of creeps, all they want is to give America's
wealth to the very rich and don't care what happens to the country.
I call pathetic the people that blindly back them up and excuse their
acts. And you fit the mold.
Yer Pal Al
> "dilecticon" <d...@lect.edu> wrote in message
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> news:hfrfr2$3sk$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
>
>
> > The Rock wrote:
>
> >> "dilecticon" <d...@lect.edu> wrote in message
> >>news:hfrd27$b4f$4...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>> The Rock wrote:
>
> >>>> Obama is trying to do everything he can to get jobs here,
>
> >>> By spending less than 3% of the stimulus funds on shovels-ready
> >>> projects...brilliant...
>
> >> Ahah, he is saving the money for the good jobs that Repugs in Congress
> >> gonna try
> >> to block him from doing, on GREEN jobs that will get us out of the oil
> >> mess that
> >> oil companies will be paying Congress people to vote against.
>
> > So 10% of the nation is going to be building solar panels and wind
> > turbines?
>
> > LOLOL!
>
> Did 10% of the nation worked in the same jobs that president Bush help
> shipped overseas?
Sorry, That was Bill Clinton signed NAFTA. We all lose, but you more
than everyone else.
MACK DADDY
No, I'm not! Reagan was the beginning of shipping jobs overseas and
not charging tariffs on importing the products back in. Clinton had
his faults, such as NAFTA, but the damage was already done by 12 years
of the Reagan/Bush nightmare.
MACK DADDY
> "Mitchell Holman" <noem...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns9CDD3B3C5F2C7...@216.196.97.130...
>
>
>
> > bvallely <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in news:04084d8e-5636-4822-855c-
> > 8a88c22cd...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> .
> >>> Unions made Americans the highest paid ship builders and steel workers
> >>> in the world.
> >> .
> >> And then other countries underbid us, and the jobs went bye-bye.
>
> > Just like non-union companies in the software,
> > financial, and consumer goods fields. Try calling
> > your credit card or computer help line and NOT
> > end up speaking to someone in India.
>
> > "We lead in exporting jobs."
> > - Vice President Dan Quayle, 7/26/92
>
> If you guys remember, Reagan said on TV that "we're moving from
> manufacturing
> to service jobs" and no body said a thing about it. We are now seeing the
> results.
> Obama is trying to do everything he can to get jobs here, and the Repugs in
> Congress
> are putting every block they can to stop him. They want him to fail and
> America
> right along with him. These are the people that call Democrats unpatriotic!
>
>
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And in some cases we even lost the service jobs. When you call a
product helpline the call is answered by somebody in India who can't
fuckin' speak no english.
MACK DADDY
You can't just jam a shovel in the ground any old place! There is
permits and studies that have to be done to get things shovel ready.
Try to keep up!
MACK DADDY
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Thanks to Reagan and Bush for giving our jobs away!
dilecticon
> On Dec 10, 10:01 am, dilecticon <d...@lect.edu> wrote:
>> The Rock wrote:
>>
>>> Obama is trying to do everything he can to get jobs here,
>> By spending less than 3% of the stimulus funds on shovels-ready
>> projects...brilliant...
>
> You can't just jam a shovel in the ground any old place!
Sure ya can, you start with bridges and overpasses, the crumbling ones.
> There is permits and studies that have to be done to get things shovel ready.
Der is?
Free clue_ all 50 states have identified and green-lighted road and
overpass projects ready for immediate work.
Why are you so damned stupid?
> Try to keep up!
Try to grow a brain.
Cicero Venatio
> Did 10% of the nation worked in the same jobs that president Bush help
> shipped overseas? The restaurants that closed didn't go overseas, they
> lost costumers,
> those costumers lost their jobs, because people that lost their jobs
> were not patronizing
> their businesses. Are you getting the picture or do you want me to draw
> you a picture?
You silly sh*t, the reason the restaurants are going to close, is
because the owner is going to be mandated by ObamaCare to buy health
insurance for Jose and Maria and their 7 children, do you know how much
that is going to cost? And all they do is wash pots and pans and take
out the trash. Multiply that by the number of employees they have, and
you start to get the REAL picture. Or I guess they could keep their
doors open and see if the public is willing to buy a cheeseburger for
$29.95.
MACK DADDY
You have no brain!
MACK DADDY
Geez , Canada doesn't have that problem! And they insure everyone,
AND they don't make the employers pay for it eh!
dilecticon
<corrected that for ya>
dilecticon
Canada is now moving to PRIVATIZE health care, you stuttering MORON!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/30/canada-sees-boom-private-health-care-business/
Canada Sees Boom in Private Health Care Business
By Molly Line
- FOXNews.com
Facing long waits and substandard care, a growing number of Canadians
are willing to pay for health treatment, leading to a booming private
business in Canada -- a country often touted as a successful example of
a universal health system.
"Any wait time was an enormous frustration for me and also pain. I just
couldn't live my life the way I wanted to," says Canadian patient
Christine Crossman, who was told she could wait up to a year for an MRI
after injuring her hip during an exercise class. Warned she would have
to wait for the scan, and then wait even longer for surgery, Crossman
opted for a private clinic.
As the Obama administration prepares to launch its legislative effort to
create a national health care system, many experts on both sides of the
debate site Canada as a successful model.
But the Canadian system is not without its problems. Critics lament the
shortage of doctors as patients flood the system, resulting in long
waits for some treatment.
"No question, it was worth the money," said Crossman, who paid several
hundred dollars and waited just a few days.
Health care delivery in Canada falls largely under provincial
jurisdiction, complicating matters.
Private for-profit clinics are permitted in some provinces and not
allowed in others. Under the Canada Health Act, privately run facilities
cannot charge citizens for services covered by government insurance.
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/27/nation/na-healthcare-canada27
Whereas U.S. healthcare is predominantly a private system paid for by
private insurers, things in Canada tend toward the other end of the
spectrum: A universal, government-funded health system is only beginning
to flirt with private-sector medicine.
Hoping to capitalize on patients who might otherwise go to the U.S. for
speedier care, a network of technically illegal private clinics and
surgical centers has sprung up in British Columbia, echoing a trend in
Quebec. In October, the courts will be asked to decide whether the
budding system should be sanctioned.
More than 70 private health providers in British Columbia now schedule
simple surgeries and tests such as MRIs with waits as short as a week or
two, compared with the months it takes for a public surgical suite to
become available for nonessential operations.
"What we have in Canada is access to a government, state-mandated wait
list," said Brian Day, a former Canadian Medical Assn. director who runs
a private surgical center in Vancouver. "You cannot force a citizen in a
free and democratic society to simply wait for healthcare, and outlaw
their ability to extricate themselves from a wait list."
bvallely
MACK DADDY
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I know you have no brain. You're a Republiturd!
MACK DADDY
> MACK DADDY wrote:
> > On Dec 10, 10:09 pm, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Did 10% of the nation worked in the same jobs that president Bush help
> >>> shipped overseas? The restaurants that closed didn't go overseas, they
> >>> lost costumers,
> >>> those costumers lost their jobs, because people that lost their jobs
> >>> were not patronizing
> >>> their businesses. Are you getting the picture or do you want me to draw
> >>> you a picture?
> >> ------------
>
> >> You silly sh*t, the reason the restaurants are going to close, is
> >> because the owner is going to be mandated by ObamaCare to buy health
> >> insurance for Jose and Maria and their 7 children, do you know how much
> >> that is going to cost? And all they do is wash pots and pans and take
> >> out the trash. Multiply that by the number of employees they have, and
> >> you start to get the REAL picture. Or I guess they could keep their
> >> doors open and see if the public is willing to buy a cheeseburger for
> >> $29.95.
>
> > Geez , Canada doesn't have that problem! And they insure everyone,
>
> Canada is now moving to PRIVATIZE health care, you stuttering MORON!
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Such lies! That story comes from FAUX NEWS. It's worthless! Canada
has an excellent health care system. The USA ranks 29th for quality
of care. That means 28 countries have better health care.
dilecticon
good..
dilecticon
Are you so damned stupid you can't even read the LA Times byline?
> It's worthless!
And in their media?
http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/abstract/152/11/1877
The privatization of Canadian health care is moving into high gear
M. OReilly
The future of Canada's public health care system has been the source of
much debate in the past year. Several signs, ranging from laser-surgery
clinics in Ontario to the possible opening of a new private hospital in
Toronto, indicate that the trend toward privatization is growing. Dr.
Hugh Scully, former chair of a CMA working group that looked at the
issue, expects the trend toward privatization to continue because "it
simply isn't the case that the coverage people have come to expect will
continue to be provided through the public purse." Dr. Jeffery Machat, a
laser-surgery specialist from Windsor, Ont., thinks privatization brings
needed investment to Canada's health care system.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/healthcare/public_vs_private.html
Dr. Albert Schumacher, former president of the Canadian Medical
Association estimates that 75 per cent of health-care services are
delivered privately, but funded publicly.
"Frontline practitioners whether they're GPs or specialists by and large
are not salaried. They're small hardware stores. Same thing with labs
and radiology clinics �The situation we are seeing now are more services
around not being funded publicly but people having to pay for them, or
their insurance companies. We have sort of a passive privatization."
Most cosmetic procedures are not covered by the public system. If you're
contemplating undergoing a cosmetic procedure, by the way, you might
want to take a close look at your cosmetic surgeon's credentials. Almost
any doctor in this country can call him/herself a cosmetic surgeon � and
start operating � even if that person was not a surgeon before.
There are no regulations in Canada governing who can � or can't �
perform cosmetic surgery. Most procedures are not monitored because they
are done in a doctor's office.
�Related: Marketplace: How qualified is that doctor doing your
liposuction? Nov. 5, 2002
Are there other forms of private health care?
There are a few privately-run hospitals in the country, whose services
may or may not be covered by health insurance.
Shouldice Hospital in Toronto opened in 1945 � before Canadians were
covered by universal health care. Dr. Edward Earle Shouldice developed a
unique method of repairing hernias and demand for the services of his
staff quickly spread beyond Canada's borders. The hospital remains
private today. Residents of Ontario who have a valid health card are
covered by the provincial health-care system for the cost of surgery. If
you're from outside Ontario, you will probably need extended � private �
health coverage to get reimbursed.
Several privately-run clinics have opened across the country as well,
offering CT scans and MRI services. Most have contracts with their
provincial governments. The idea was to take pressure off the limited
resources of hospitals. The clinics are paid by the province to provide
their services.
Several clinics opened in Ontario after the then former Conservative
government signed contracts with four companies. The companies were
allowed to provide 40 hours of testing per machine per week. Physicians
associated with the clinics are paid on a fee-for-service basis by the
Ontario Health Insurance Plan to read the test results for OHIP-covered
patients. While the clinics are allowed to take private customers after
hours, they cannot sell MRI or CT scans to anyone who walks in off the
street. You have to have a doctor's referral.
The clinics operate on a for-profit basis. The Canadian Health Care
Coalition argues that clinics like these lay the groundwork for a
private, parallel for-profit health-care system in Canada.
"The proliferation of investor-owned private, for-profit clinics and
facilities acts like a viral infection in the body of Canada's public
health-care system," the coalition said in a news release following the
September 2004 First Ministers Conference on health care. "The
for-profit health care virus cannot exist without feeding off and
damaging public bodies."
Shortly after beating the Conservatives in Ontario's 2003 election, the
Liberal government promised to shut down the private clinics and buy the
machines.
However, in 2006, the Conservatives were elected federally on a platform
that pushed for a mix of public and private health care, provided that
health care stays publicly funded and universally accessible.
There are other signs of a shift toward more private health care.
In December 2006, B.C.'s first private emergency clinic opened in
Vancouver. The Urgent Care Centre plans to offer emergency care on a
user-fee basis, which raises questions about how it will operate legally
under the Canada Health Act.
The provincial government authorized B.C.'s Medical Services Commission
to send inspectors to the clinic. Health Minister George Abbott said if
they find evidence the law is being broken, the commission would seek an
injunction to shut down the clinic.
As well, the Canadian Medical Association elected a new president in
August 2006: Vancouver physician Dr. Brian Day, a surgeon and private
clinic owner who says he wants to see more private options for
health-care services that are currently public. His main opponent was
Dr. Jack Burak, also from B.C. and a staunch defender of Canada's public
health-care system.
> Canada has an excellent health care system.
That why they stream across the border here for surgery and to have
their babies?
Let a Brit visitor describe the state of the Canuck art for you:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article6814702.ece
Some say America should follow Canada�s lead, where private care is
effectively banned. But having experienced their procedures while on
holiday in Quebec, I really don�t think that�s a good idea at all.
A friend�s 13-year-old son tripped while climbing off a speedboat and
ripped his leg open. Things started well. The ambulance arrived
promptly, the wound was bandaged and off he went in a big, exciting van.
Now, we are all used to a bit of a wait at the hospital. God knows, I�ve
spent enough time in accident and emergency at Oxford�s John Radcliffe
over the years, sitting with my sobbing children in a room full of
people with swords in their eyes and their feet on back to front. But
nothing can prepare you for the yawning chasm of time that passes in
Canada before the healthcare system actually does any healthcare.
It didn�t seem desperately busy. One woman had lost her face somehow �
probably a bear attack � and one kid appeared to have taken rather too
much ecstasy, but there were no more than a dozen people in the waiting
room. And no one was gouting arterial blood all over the walls.
After a couple of hours, I asked the receptionist how long it might be
before a doctor came. In a Wal-Mart, it�s quite quaint to be served by a
fat, gum-chewing teenager who claims not to understand what you�re
saying, but in a hospital it�s annoying. Resisting the temptation to
explain that the Marquis de Montcalm lost and that it�s time to get over
it, I went back to the boy�s cubicle, which he was sharing with a young
Muslim couple.
A doctor came in and said to them: �You�ve had a miscarriage,� and then
turned to go. Understandably, the poor girl was very upset and asked if
the doctor was sure.
�Look, we�ve done a scan and there�s nothing in there,� she said, in
perhaps the worst example of a bedside manner I�ve ever seen.
�Is anyone coming to look at my son?� asked my friend politely. �Quoi?�
said the haughty doctor, who had suddenly forgotten how to speak
English. �Je ne comprends pas.� And with that, she was gone.
At midnight, a young man who had been brought up on a diet of American
music, American movies and very obviously American food, arrived to say,
in French, that the doctors were changing shift and a new one would be
along as soon as possible.
By then, it was one in the morning and my legs were becoming weary. This
is because the hospital had no chairs for relatives and friends. It�s
not a lack of funds, plainly. Because they had enough money to paint a
yellow line on the road nine yards from the front door, beyond which you
were able to smoke.
And they also had the cash to employ an army of people to slam the door
in your face if you poked your head into the inner sanctum to ask how
much longer the wait might be. Sixteen hours is apparently the norm.
Unless you want a scan. Then it�s 22 months.
At about 1.30am a doctor arrived. Boy, he was a piece of work. He
couldn�t have been more rude if I�d been General Wolfe. He removed the
bandages like they were the packaging on a disposable razor, looked at
the wound, which was horrific, and said to my friend: �Is it cash or
credit card?�
This seemed odd in a country with no private care, but it turns out they
charge non-Canadians precisely what they would charge the government if
the patient were C�line Dion. The bill was C$300 (about �170).
The doctor vanished, but he hadn�t bothered to reapply the boy�s
bandages, which meant the little lad was left with nothing to look at
except his own thigh bone. An hour later, the painkillers arrived.
What the doctor was doing in between was going to a desk and sitting
down. I watched him do it. He would go into a cubicle, be rude, cause
the patient a bit of pain and then sit down again on the hospital�s only
chair.
Seven hours after the accident, in a country widely touted to be the
safest and best in the world, he applied 16 stitches that couldn�t have
been less neat if he�d done them on a battlefield, with twigs. And then
the anaesthetist arrived to wake the boy up. In French. This didn�t
work, so she went away to sit on the doctor�s chair because he was in
another cubicle bring rude and causing pain to someone else.
> The USA ranks 29th for quality
> of care. That means 28 countries have better health care.
No, it means some socialist shitbags ginned the data to cover their own
dying asses.
You are stupid and slow of mind, thus I will use you as my personal
trampoline until I tire of you, enjoy.
Barack Hussein Bohica
<pepsiv...@msn.com> wrote:
>On Dec 9, 8:47�pm, Barack Hussein Bohica
><CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:39:09 -0800 (PST), MACK DADDY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <pepsivani...@msn.com> wrote:
>> >On Dec 9, 1:11�am, Barack Hussein Bohica
>> ><CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:54:01 -0800 (PST), MACK DADDY
>>
>> >> <pepsivani...@msn.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Dec 8, 10:03�am, Yer Pal Al <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Dec 7, 11:57�pm, MACK DADDY <pepsivani...@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > On Dec 7, 7:46�pm, Yer Pal Al <caddyshack...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > > On Dec 7, 6:40�pm, MACK DADDY <pepsivani...@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > > > On Dec 7, 4:16�pm, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > > > > Obama is on a tour now, asking the little people on how to solve the
>> >> >> > > > > growing unemployment problem. �This is so stupid on so many levels. �I
>> >> >> > > > > presume that the poor simple sheeple who voted for him, thought he
>> >> >> > > > > already had the answers, or why would they vote for him. �He already
>> >> >> > > > > knows the answers, and that is to reverse all of the anti-business
>> >> >> > > > > policies he and his Democrats have moved forward. �If the Democrats pass
>> >> >> > > > > the so called health care reform, it will lock in double digit
>> >> >> > > > > unemployment rates forever, just as it did in Europe. �He wants to push
>> >> >> > > > > Unions, and look at heavily unionized Michigan; do you want to spread
>> >> >> > > > > that disaster to the rest of the country? �And why were Unions
>> >> >> > > > > represented at the jobs summit anyway? �They only asked for more
>> >> >> > > > > taxpayer money to subsidize their bloated hourly pay. �The Unions will
>> >> >> > > > > not be happy until every last US manufacturing job is in China or Mexico.
>>
>> >> >> > > > > Obama wakes up every morning, and asks the question why should white
>> >> >> > > > > middle class Americans have so much more than his countrymen in Kenya.
>> >> >> > > > > He has concluded the economic system is unfair and is now in the process
>> >> >> > > > > of dismantling it. �The fact that America has a 12% unemployment rate
>> >> >> > > > > doesn�t bother him, when he compares it to the 38% rate that Kenya has.
>>
>> >> >> > > > Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
>>
>> >> >> > > Unions made Americans the highest paid ship builders and steel workers
>> >> >> > > in the world.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> > Some people would have you believe that's a bad thing!
>>
>> >> >> Probably those insane people who point out that our steel industry is
>> >> >> 1/100th of what it was and we don't make commercial shipping vessels
>> >> >> anymore.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> >We barely make anything anymore.
>>
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>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >And Buttplugs for Rush Blimpballs and Glen Beck.
>>
>> You got a job! �Good boy!- Hide quoted text -
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>
>I already have a job, though I'm not a buttplug installer like
>yourself!
You're the buttplug...
Barack Hussein Bohica
wrote:
Obama's failure is the best hope to save America.
May it be swift, utter and spectacular!
Capt. Bill
<CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>
> >Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
>
> "Guaranteed Mediocrity at a Premium Price: Look for the Union Label!"
And where did Obama support unions?
You must live in the Red States, where Japanese manufacturers avoid.
Sending their business to Canada. Where there are workers with better
educations and health care.
Too bad. Like it didn't happen under Bush! You pretend.
Barack Hussein Bohica
wrote:
>Oh, I thought your Messiah was Bush or maybe Palin? She can see Russia from
>her house. Hehehehe. ROTFLMAO.
Palin never said that. Your insistence of promoting that lie makes
anything else you have to say not worth the electrons it arrives on.
Capt. Bill
I have been a BMW owner for 20 years.
There is no fucking way that I would buy a BMW made in Spartanburg
South Carolina.
Give me German, Union Made Beemer's full time.
Not ones made by drooling goobers from the south.
Hell, I don't even allow the Michelin tires on my cars made in
Greenville SC.
Only the French ones.
Barack Hussein Bohica
>MACK DADDY wrote:
>> On Dec 10, 10:09 pm, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Did 10% of the nation worked in the same jobs that president Bush help
>>>> shipped overseas? The restaurants that closed didn't go overseas, they
>>>> lost costumers,
>>>> those costumers lost their jobs, because people that lost their jobs
>>>> were not patronizing
>>>> their businesses. Are you getting the picture or do you want me to draw
>>>> you a picture?
>>> ------------
>>>
>>> You silly sh*t, the reason the restaurants are going to close, is
>>> because the owner is going to be mandated by ObamaCare to buy health
>>> insurance for Jose and Maria and their 7 children, do you know how much
>>> that is going to cost? And all they do is wash pots and pans and take
>>> out the trash. Multiply that by the number of employees they have, and
>>> you start to get the REAL picture. Or I guess they could keep their
>>> doors open and see if the public is willing to buy a cheeseburger for
>>> $29.95.
>>
>> Geez , Canada doesn't have that problem! And they insure everyone,
>>
>
>Canada is now moving to PRIVATIZE health care, you stuttering MORON!
Don't confuse Crack Laddy with facts. His system is incapable of
digesting them; his mommy then has to wash them out of his diapers...
Barack Hussein Bohica
You are in India? Say 'hi' to the cows...
Jamir Quay
> On Dec 8, 5:34 am, Barack Hussein Bohica
> <CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>
>>> Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
>> "Guaranteed Mediocrity at a Premium Price: Look for the Union Label!"
>
> And where did Obama support unions?
Well, well, well...a reply groups fraud artist, no matter:
> And where did Obama support unions?
Oh my, are you a lying MORON???
Or just a common liar?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/07/obama-gives-fiery-speech-_n_278788.html
CINCINNATI � President Barack Obama declared Monday that modern benefits
like paid leave, minimum wage and Social Security "all bear the union
label," as he appealed to organized labor to help him win the health
care fight in Congress.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/07/obama-puts-union-strings-on-job-center/
Delivering on President Obama's promise to boost the labor movement, the
administration has announced a $35 million federal construction project
in New Hampshire that requires union representation for the workers and
forces nonunion employees to pay dues and contribute to a union pension
fund.
Mr. Obama issued an executive order in the first weeks of his presidency
that would make the requirement, known as a "project labor agreement" or
PLA, the norm for all government contracts on large-scale construction
jobs. The order is under review and a final rule is not expected for
months, but that did not stop the Labor Department from rushing to use a
PLA to build its new Job Corps Center in Manchester, N.H.
http://obamaspeeches.com/086-AFSCME-National-Convention-Obama-Speech.htm
AFSCME National Convention - Challenge for Labor
TOPIC: Economy & Labor
August 7, 2006
AFSCME National Convention
Complete Text
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you, and welcome to Chicago.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/union-leaders-to-meet-with-obama-next-week/
July 7, 2009, 3:27 pm Union Leaders to Meet With Obama Next Week
By STEVEN GREENHOUSE
A dozen union presidents will meet with President Obama in the White
House next Monday to discuss health-care legislation as well as a bill
that would make it easier to unionize, labor leaders and administration
officials said on Tuesday.
Jamir Quay
> On Dec 12, 12:24 am, "Capt. Bill" <bill_cole...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 8, 5:34 am, Barack Hussein Bohica
>>
>> <CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>>
>>>> Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
>>> "Guaranteed Mediocrity at a Premium Price: Look for the Union Label!"
>> And where did Obama support unions?
>>
>> You must live in the Red States, where Japanese manufacturers avoid.
>>
>> Sending their business to Canada. Where there are workers with better
>> educations and health care.
>>
>> Too bad. Like it didn't happen under Bush! You pretend.
>
> I have been a BMW owner for 20 years.
You are now a laughing stock and a COWARD FRAUD who hides his cat shit
in bogus groups.
Now you're mine, canuck cunt, I PISS ON YOU!
173.34.22.250
Ontario Toronto
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Rogers Cable
715-765 Manning Ave
Toronto, ON, Canada
MACK DADDY
> around not being funded publicly but people having to pay for them, or
> their insurance companies. We have sort of a passive privatization."
>
> Most cosmetic procedures are not covered by the public system. If you're
> contemplating undergoing a cosmetic procedure, by the way, you might
> want to take a close look at your cosmetic surgeon's credentials. Almost
> start operating – even if that person was not a surgeon before.
>
> There are no regulations in Canada governing who can – or can't –
> perform cosmetic surgery. Most procedures are not monitored because they
> are done in a doctor's office.
>
> liposuction? Nov. 5, 2002
> Are there other forms of private health care?
> There are a few privately-run hospitals in the country, whose services
> may or may not be covered by health insurance.
>
> covered by universal health care. Dr. Edward Earle Shouldice developed a
> unique method of repairing hernias and demand for the services of his
> staff quickly spread beyond Canada's borders. The hospital remains
> private today. Residents of Ontario who have a valid health card are
> covered by the provincial health-care system for the cost of surgery. If
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
the only people who might even possibly benefit from private insurance
is super-rich people who have so much money they don't know how to
spend it all, so they can waste it on plastic surgery and whatnot!
MACK DADDY
<CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:00:37 -0800, "The Rock" <neverm...@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Oh, I thought your Messiah was Bush or maybe Palin? She can see Russia from
> >her house. Hehehehe. ROTFLMAO.
>
> Palin never said that. Your insistence of promoting that lie makes
> anything else you have to say not worth the electrons it arrives on.
Palin said she could see Russia from land in Alaska. So while she may
not see it from her door it's totally irrellevant for her to even
mention that she can see Russia.
MACK DADDY
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >And in some cases we even lost the service jobs. When you call a
> >product helpline the call is answered by somebody in India who can't
> >fuckin' speak no english.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I never said I was in India, JAYZUSS!
I said when you call like Quest or Comcast some Indian answers the
phone and they can't understand simple English!
Mitchell Holman
news:l3a6i5lhm2ngni07i...@4ax.com:
Nothing says patriotism like hoping America fails.
Eddie Squwak
>
> Nothing says patriotism like hoping America fails.
>
I just like the fact that Al Gore is probably more wealthy than Rush
Limnbaugh.
It drives "The capitalists" crazy.
Mitchell Holman
news:MPG.258d552c8...@news.x-privat.org:
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out from
praising CEO's getting $400 million retirement packages and
Bob Dole pimping for Viagia as "legitimate earnings" to claim
that the money earned by Michael Moore and Al Gore and Bill
Clinton just proves how greedy they are.
MACK DADDY
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >And in some cases we even lost the service jobs. When you call a
> > >product helpline the call is answered by somebody in India who can't
> > >fuckin' speak no english.
>
> > You are in India? Say 'hi' to the cows...- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I never said I was in India, JAYZUSS!
>
> I said when you call like Quest or Comcast some Indian answers the
>
> - Show quoted text -
So, like, uh, what are you murmuring about?
dilecticon
>> around not being funded publicly but people having to pay for them, or
>> their insurance companies. We have sort of a passive privatization."
>>
>> Most cosmetic procedures are not covered by the public system. If you're
>> contemplating undergoing a cosmetic procedure, by the way, you might
>> want to take a close look at your cosmetic surgeon's credentials. Almost
>> start operating � even if that person was not a surgeon before.
>>
>> There are no regulations in Canada governing who can � or can't �
>> are done in a doctor's office.
>>
>> liposuction? Nov. 5, 2002
>> Are there other forms of private health care?
>> There are a few privately-run hospitals in the country, whose services
>> may or may not be covered by health insurance.
>>
>> covered by universal health care. Dr. Edward Earle Shouldice developed a
>> unique method of repairing hernias and demand for the services of his
>> staff quickly spread beyond Canada's borders. The hospital remains
>> private today. Residents of Ontario who have a valid health card are
>> covered by the provincial health-care system for the cost of surgery. If
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> the only people who might even possibly benefit from private insurance
> is super-rich people who have so much money they don't know how to
> spend it all, so they can waste it on plastic surgery and whatnot!
You really are stupid enough for me to keep riding you, giddyup, dumbass:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/28/international/americas/28canada.html
Canada's Private Clinics Surge as Public System Falters
By CLIFFORD KRAUSS
Published: February 28, 2006
Accepting money from patients for operations they would otherwise
receive free of charge in a public hospital is technically prohibited in
this country, even in cases where patients would wait months or even
years before receiving treatment.
But no one is about to arrest Dr. Brian Day, who is president and
medical director of the center, or any of the 120 doctors who work
there. Public hospitals are sending him growing numbers of patients they
are too busy to treat, and his center is advertising that patients do
not have to wait to replace their aching knees.
The country's publicly financed health insurance system � frequently
described as the third rail of its political system and a core value of
its national identity � is gradually breaking down. Private clinics are
opening around the country by an estimated one a week, and private
insurance companies are about to find a gold mine.
In response, the Quebec premier, Jean Charest, proposed this month to
allow private hospitals to subcontract hip, knee and cataract surgery to
private clinics when patients are unable to be treated quickly enough
under the public system. The premiers of British Columbia and Alberta
have suggested they will go much further to encourage private health
services and insurance in legislation they plan to propose in the next
few months.
Private doctors across the country are not waiting for changes in the
law, figuring provincial governments will not try to stop them only to
face more test cases in the Supreme Court.
One Vancouver-based company started a large for-profit family medical
clinic specializing in screening and preventive medicine here last
November. It is planning to set up three similar clinics � in Toronto,
Ottawa and London, Ontario � next summer and nine more in several other
cities by the end of 2007. Private diagnostic clinics offering MRI
procedures are opening around the country.
http://www.findprivateclinics.ca/
Top Main Categories
Obstetrics & Gynecology (168186 Hits)
MRI Scan (148380 Hits)
Family Medicine (143033 Hits)
You're a LYING MORON, Smack Daddy, a stupid, easily stomped-on
LYING MORON!
dilecticon
> On Dec 11, 9:28 pm, Barack Hussein Bohica
> <CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:00:37 -0800, "The Rock" <neverm...@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, I thought your Messiah was Bush or maybe Palin? She can see Russia from
>>> her house. Hehehehe. ROTFLMAO.
>> Palin never said that. Your insistence of promoting that lie makes
>> anything else you have to say not worth the electrons it arrives on.
>
> Palin said she could see Russia from land in Alaska.
Guess what, YOU CAN!
http://geography.about.com/b/2008/10/24/can-you-see-russia-from-alaska.htm
Comments
October 24, 2008 at 5:48 pm(1) John Concilus says:
Hello,
Actually, you can see Russia from the mainland of Alaska. I�ve done so
Although you can�t see the cliffs of Chukotka from the BEACH, if get get
a 100 feet or more up the hill right behind the school, you CAN see the
Russian Mainland on clear days. Honest.
Wales School has a steerable webcam at:
http://www.bssd.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=81
Regards,
John
October 26, 2008 at 5:52 pm(2) Peter N. says:
I have seen Russia from Alaska as well. It�s easy. The mountains (which
are quite high) in far eastern Russia are easily visible from Gambel, on
St. Lawrence Is., AK. You may not be able to see the ground in Russia
from mainland AK, but high mountain peaks are easily seen, especially
from SLI.
October 27, 2008 at 12:37 am(3) Dinesh Desai says:
The two Diomede islands in the Bering Strait are only two miles apart.
The big Diomede belongs to Russia while the little Diomede is part of
Alaska. So, without worrying about the horizon, one can easily see
Russia from Alaska.
October 27, 2008 at 8:24 am(4) Alan says:
Precisely! I came here to also mention the Diomedes. Amazed that wasn�t
covered in the prelim.
> So while she may
> not see it from her door
Dumbasshole, she never said THAT!
> it's totally irrellevant for her to even mention that she can see Russia.
You just got your ASS handed to you...AGAIN!
You blithering nincompoop.
It's incredibly relevant from a first strike perspective.
You are so stupid it makes my head hurt to talk to you.
dilecticon
Oh yes..."simple english"...I can see where that would be a prime
requirement for someone of your mental capacity...
dilecticon
"Let me introduce to you the next President -- the next Vice President
of the United States of America, Joe Biden." --slipping up while
introducing Joe Biden at their first joint campaign rally, Springfield,
Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008
"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings
and inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a
health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care
providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009
"Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. It
will be a strong friend of Israel's under a McCain...administration. It
will be a strong friend of Israel's under an Obama administration. So
that policy is not going to change." --Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama-isms.htm
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=87539
The president chose Arab television, Al Arabiya, to give his first
sit-down interview. He took the opportunity to confirm the long-held
Arab view that the real problem is America, and President Obama
apologized on our behalf.
"� America was not born as a colonial power," he told the Arab viewing
audience � implying we are now. And he regretfully confessed, "We
sometimes make mistakes. We are not perfect."
Sorry, but weren't we the ones that were attacked? Do we not stand in
long lines and disrobe in airports because of them? Does anyone recall
anywhere, anytime hearing apologies from any Arab or Muslim leader?
dilecticon
> Mitchell Holman wrote
>> Nothing says patriotism like hoping America fails.
>>
>
> I just like the fact that Al Gore is probably more wealthy than Rush
> Limnbaugh.
You are probably a moron if you believe that.
> It drives "The capitalists" crazy.
Which ones?
Is his carbon footprint bigger too?
ROTFLMFAO!
dilecticon
Modern libitard hypocrite, someone like Al Gore who jets around the
nation pimping his global "warming" documentary of lies while living in
an immense mansion and going everywhere in his own private jet.
dilecticon
Just the usual derision of your profound and unending stupidity...
MACK DADDY
> MACK DADDY wrote:
> > On Dec 11, 9:28 pm, Barack Hussein Bohica
> > <CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:00:37 -0800, "The Rock" <neverm...@nospam.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Oh, I thought your Messiah was Bush or maybe Palin? She can see Russia from
> >>> her house. Hehehehe. ROTFLMAO.
> >> Palin never said that. Your insistence of promoting that lie makes
> >> anything else you have to say not worth the electrons it arrives on.
>
> > Palin said she could see Russia from land in Alaska.
>
> Guess what, YOU CAN!
>
>
> Comments
> October 24, 2008 at 5:48 pm(1) John Concilus says:
> Hello,
>
>
> Although you can’t see the cliffs of Chukotka from the BEACH, if get get
> a 100 feet or more up the hill right behind the school, you CAN see the
> Russian Mainland on clear days. Honest.
>
> Wales School has a steerable webcam at:
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
> October 26, 2008 at 5:52 pm(2) Peter N. says:
> are quite high) in far eastern Russia are easily visible from Gambel, on
> St. Lawrence Is., AK. You may not be able to see the ground in Russia
> from mainland AK, but high mountain peaks are easily seen, especially
> from SLI.
>
> October 27, 2008 at 12:37 am(3) Dinesh Desai says:
> The two Diomede islands in the Bering Strait are only two miles apart.
> The big Diomede belongs to Russia while the little Diomede is part of
> Alaska. So, without worrying about the horizon, one can easily see
> Russia from Alaska.
>
> October 27, 2008 at 8:24 am(4) Alan says:
> covered in the prelim.
>
> > So while she may
> > not see it from her door
>
> Dumbasshole, she never said THAT!
>
> > it's totally irrellevant for her to even mention that she can see Russia.
>
> You just got your ASS handed to you...AGAIN!
>
> You blithering nincompoop.
>
> It's incredibly relevant from a first strike perspective.
>
> You are so stupid it makes my head hurt to talk to you.
It's still irrellevant though from the standpoint that Silly Sarah was
trying to claim that it makes her an expert on foreign policy.
Therefore, YOU got YOUR ass handed to YOU, muddafugga!
MACK DADDY
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> And in some cases we even lost the service jobs. When you call a
> >>> product helpline the call is answered by somebody in India who can't
> >>> fuckin' speak no english.
> >> You are in India? Say 'hi' to the cows...- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I never said I was in India, JAYZUSS!
>
> > I said when you call like Quest or Comcast some Indian answers the
> > phone and they can't understand simple English!
>
> Oh yes..."simple english"...I can see where that would be a prime
>
> - Show quoted text -
You got a problem with speaking English?
dilecticon
> On Dec 12, 9:56 am, dilecticon <d...@lect.edu> wrote:
>> MACK DADDY wrote:
>>> On Dec 11, 9:28 pm, Barack Hussein Bohica
>>> <CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:00:37 -0800, "The Rock" <neverm...@nospam.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Oh, I thought your Messiah was Bush or maybe Palin? She can see Russia from
>>>>> her house. Hehehehe. ROTFLMAO.
>>>> Palin never said that. Your insistence of promoting that lie makes
>>>> anything else you have to say not worth the electrons it arrives on.
>>> Palin said she could see Russia from land in Alaska.
>> Guess what, YOU CAN!
>>
>> http://geography.about.com/b/2008/10/24/can-you-see-russia-from-alask...
>>
>> Comments
>> October 24, 2008 at 5:48 pm(1) John Concilus says:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> Although you can�t see the cliffs of Chukotka from the BEACH, if get get
>> a 100 feet or more up the hill right behind the school, you CAN see the
>> Russian Mainland on clear days. Honest.
>>
>> Wales School has a steerable webcam at:
>>
>> http://www.bssd.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Item...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>> October 26, 2008 at 5:52 pm(2) Peter N. says:
>> are quite high) in far eastern Russia are easily visible from Gambel, on
>> St. Lawrence Is., AK. You may not be able to see the ground in Russia
>> from mainland AK, but high mountain peaks are easily seen, especially
>> from SLI.
>>
>> October 27, 2008 at 12:37 am(3) Dinesh Desai says:
>> The two Diomede islands in the Bering Strait are only two miles apart.
>> The big Diomede belongs to Russia while the little Diomede is part of
>> Alaska. So, without worrying about the horizon, one can easily see
>> Russia from Alaska.
>>
>> October 27, 2008 at 8:24 am(4) Alan says:
>> covered in the prelim.
>>
>>> So while she may
>>> not see it from her door
>> Dumbasshole, she never said THAT!
>>
>>> it's totally irrellevant for her to even mention that she can see Russia.
>> You just got your ASS handed to you...AGAIN!
>>
>> You blithering nincompoop.
>>
>> It's incredibly relevant from a first strike perspective.
>>
>> You are so stupid it makes my head hurt to talk to you.
>
> It's still irrellevant though from the standpoint that Silly Sarah was
> trying to claim that it makes her an expert on foreign policy.
She was governor in a first response state.
Nuff said, dolt.
> Therefore, YOU got YOUR ass handed to YOU, muddafugga!
Your stupidity is truly immense.
dilecticon
I have no problems with speaking it with a degree of accuracy and simple
dignity that you seem unable to master.
Yer Pal Al
dilecticon
Which HE will profit from!
Kirk Reynolds
"bvallely" <bval...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> fuck off, troll.
You're one to talk, Valleygrl.
The Rock
"dilecticon" <d...@lect.edu> wrote in message
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A slip in saying Vice-President has something to do with patriotism?
Man, you guys are out of it, but we can't blame you, you don't have
anything to say in your favor--go ahead, fabricate something.
> "The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and
> inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a health
> care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers,
> Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009
>
> "Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. It
> will be a strong friend of Israel's under a McCain...administration. It
> will be a strong friend of Israel's under an Obama administration. So that
> policy is not going to change." --Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008
>
> http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama-isms.htm
>
>
> http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=87539
>
> The president chose Arab television, Al Arabiya, to give his first
> sit-down interview. He took the opportunity to confirm the long-held Arab
> view that the real problem is America, and President Obama apologized on
> our behalf.
>
That's a President with knowledge, integrity and smart. He apologized for
the crime of the last administration. Well done. The whole world understood
that, only morons and criminals didn't.
> "� America was not born as a colonial power," he told the Arab viewing
> audience � implying we are now. And he regretfully confessed, "We
> sometimes make mistakes. We are not perfect."
Implying nothing, that's lack of comprehension on your part. What I've
noticed
is, you're not sharp in understanding English or anything for that matter.
>
> Sorry, but weren't we the ones that were attacked? Do we not stand in long
> lines and disrobe in airports because of them? Does anyone recall
> anywhere, anytime hearing apologies from any Arab or Muslim leader?
>
Hah, did you hear of any Iraqi in those planes that attacked us?
Most of them were Saudis. It's a good thing Republicans were not in charge
when the Japanese attacked Pear Harbor, we would attack Australia.
---
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The Rock
"Jamir Quay" <s...@00.ter> wrote in message
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> Thank you, and welcome to Chicago..
>
>
> http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/union-leaders-to-meet-with-obama-next-week/
>
> July 7, 2009, 3:27 pm Union Leaders to Meet With Obama Next Week
> By STEVEN GREENHOUSE
> A dozen union presidents will meet with President Obama in the White House
> next Monday to discuss health-care legislation as well as a bill that
> would make it easier to unionize, labor leaders and administration
> officials said on Tuesday.
And just what is wrong with union? The unions brought middle class to
America,
if you'd leave it to the corporations we'd all be on soup lines. They care
so much
for Americans that they move all their manufacturing to communist China. You
fools
are still defending what you hear on right winger talk shows, controlled by
corporations.
And the healthcare that Obama wants is for the betterment of American
people.
How stupid can some of you people be? It's about time a President care about
the
average Americans. Reagan was your god because he almost finished up the
unions,
and the results are: lower wages, no health insurance, and even without all
these, it wasn't
enough, they moved overseas for slave labor. Yes, without unions you'll work
for slave
wages. Fooool!!!!!!!
The Rock
"bvallely" <bval...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> .
>> Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
> .
> Tell that to Detroit, MI, Newark NJ, Trenton, NJ, and several other
> war zones, formerly Union Towns.
>
They didn't move to communist China because of unions, they moved there
for slave labor. Do you want to work for slave wages? What do you guys have
against the American people?
Kirk Reynolds
"The Rock" <neve...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Jamir Quay" <s...@00.ter> wrote in message
> news:hfva3m$2re$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Capt. Bill wrote:
>>> On Dec 8, 5:34 am, Barack Hussein Bohica
>>> <CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
>>>> "Guaranteed Mediocrity at a Premium Price: Look for the Union Label!"
>>>
>>> And where did Obama support unions?
>>
>>
>> Well, well, well...a reply groups fraud artist, no matter:
>>
>>
>> > And where did Obama support unions?
>>
>>
>> Oh my, are you a lying MORON???
>>
>> Or just a common liar?
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/07/obama-gives-fiery-speech-_n_278788.html
>>
Fuck, there wouldn't even be a weekend, if it weren't for unions.
Kirk Reynolds
"First Post" <last...@LyingLeftistsare.invalid> wrote in message
news:naiai55jftmdl1tjc...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:58:31 -0800, "Kirk Reynolds"
> <49...@pr.49er.pr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"The Rock" <neve...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:4b25402f$0$27497$892e...@news.lightningnews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamir Quay" <s...@00.ter> wrote in message
>>> news:hfva3m$2re$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Capt. Bill wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 8, 5:34 am, Barack Hussein Bohica
>>>>> <CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
>>>>>> "Guaranteed Mediocrity at a Premium Price: Look for the Union
>>>>>> Label!"
>>>>>
>>>>> And where did Obama support unions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, well, well...a reply groups fraud artist, no matter:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > And where did Obama support unions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh my, are you a lying MORON???
>>>>
>>>> Or just a common liar?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/07/obama-gives-fiery-speech-_n_278788.html
>>>>
>
> Jimmy Hoffa hates
being dead. And this has exactly what to do with the statement I made?
Mitchell Holman
The party of George Bush and John McCain
complains about verbal slips.
Oh, the irony..................
"They want the federal government controlling Social
Security like it's some kind of federal program."
George W. Bush, November 2, 2000
"The Constitution established the United States of
America as a Christian nation"
John McCain, June 5 2008. The Constitution in fact
makes no mention of God or of Jesus or any religion
whatsoever.
bvallely
> > fuck off, troll.
.
> You're one to talk, Valleygrl.
Ah, another weasle who changes his screen name every few weeks. What
are you so afraid of?
bvallely
> "bvallely" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2dadc983-59a7-43d1...@w19g2000pre.googlegroups.com...> .
> >> Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
> > .
> > Tell that to Detroit, MI, Newark NJ, Trenton, NJ, and several other
> > war zones, formerly Union Towns.
>
> They didn't move to communist China because of unions, they moved there
> for slave labor.
Because the Union people priced themselves out of the market.
.
> Do you want to work for slave wages?>
Nope - but the Unions pushed for far more than a fair wage.
.
> What do you guys have
> against the American people?
>Former strong Union Towns include Detroit, Michigan, Newark, N.J.; and Trenton N.J. I'm very much against America turning into those cities.
Kirk Reynolds
right winged nuttards stalking me.
Kirk Reynolds
"First Post" <last...@LyingLeftistsare.invalid> wrote in message
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:19:05 -0800, "Kirk Reynolds"
No. But his father is about as germane to the discussion as anything else.
You still haven't responded to the original premise. Weekends = unions.
Thank you Unions.
Kirk Reynolds
"First Post" <last...@LyingLeftistsare.invalid> wrote in message
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:07:36 -0800, "Kirk Reynolds"
I merely stated a fact. That we have unions, for the most part, to thank for
there even being weekends away from work. How exactly does that translate
into "infatuation"
with
> unions as well as your unfounded belief that had unions never existed
> then everyone today would be slaves
huh? what? Telling other people people what they believe or more
appropriately, what YOU think they believe - does not win you any arguments.
really has no bearing on the topic
> of the thread at hand which has to do with Obama and labor unions
> teaming up to push the healthcare bill.
Strawman.
The president of one of the
> largest unions in the world stating that they do not like the current
> bill from the senate has very much to do with the thread.
My statement was directed at history, yours based in the current discussion.
I don't disagree that Jr. feels this way or said what he said.
Kirk Reynolds
"First Post" <last...@LyingLeftistsare.invalid> wrote in message
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:27:14 -0800, "Kirk Reynolds"
> specifically
Don't you mean Tesla? You students of pop hisotry, you really make me
chuckle.
that we would all still be using candles for light? To
> believe that only the advent of labor unions could have ever caused a
> more fair workplace is just as ill founded and is based on nothing
> more than your love for them.
> Nothing against unions, but had they not came along then it would have
> eventually been politicians trying to get votes that would have began
> changing and making labor laws regardless. In fact, over the years,
> as presidents have signed bills for OSHA and workmens compensation and
> such, they would have passed congress whether it being due to the
> "union" vote or simply the "blue collar" vote.
> But I digress.
>>
>>
>>with
>>> unions as well as your unfounded belief that had unions never existed
>>> then everyone today would be slaves
>>
>>huh? what? Telling other people people what they believe or more
>>appropriately, what YOU think they believe - does not win you any
>>arguments.
>
> Reading your post that is exactly what you said. "Fuck, there
> wouldn't even be a weekend, if it weren't for unions."
> Is that not what you believe?
> Do you now not believe the poster you are so adamantly agreeing with
> when they stated "if you'd leave it to the corporations we'd all be on
> soup lines."?
> Those two statements alone do a pretty good job of saying that you
> feel that if it weren't for unions that we'd all be working 7 days a
> week and be treated like dirt.
And you're disputing that FACT?
>>
>>really has no bearing on the topic
>>> of the thread at hand which has to do with Obama and labor unions
>>> teaming up to push the healthcare bill.
>>
>>Strawman.
>
> Strawman? It's in the fucking link to the huffington post in this
> thread.
>>
>>The president of one of the
>>> largest unions in the world stating that they do not like the current
>>> bill from the senate has very much to do with the thread.
>>
>>My statement was directed at history, yours based in the current
>>discussion.
>>I don't disagree that Jr. feels this way or said what he said.
>>
>>
> Then why all the pissing?
The Rock
"Mitchell Holman" <noe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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They have a very short memory. Bush couldn't speak without putting
foot in his mouth, he never made any sense.
--
Governor Swill
>On Dec 11, 9:28�pm, Barack Hussein Bohica
><CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:00:37 -0800, "The Rock" <neverm...@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Oh, I thought your Messiah was Bush or maybe Palin? She can see Russia from
>> >her house. Hehehehe. ROTFLMAO.
>>
>> Palin never said that. �Your insistence of promoting that lie makes
>> anything else you have to say not worth the electrons it arrives on.
>
>Palin said she could see Russia from land in Alaska. So while she may
>not see it from her door it's totally irrellevant for her to even
>mention that she can see Russia.
Calm down, guys. I'm sure Sarah had lots and lots of trade and
defense talks with Russia while she was mayor of Wasilla and during
her partial term as governor of Alaska.
Surely she had the Putins over for tea at least once.
Swill
--
In the exam room . . .
Doctor: "Public Opt . . ."
Elephant: "SOCIALISM!"
Doctor: "Reflexes good."
Governor Swill
>> Palin said she could see Russia from land in Alaska.
>
>Guess what, YOU CAN!
>
>
>http://geography.about.com/b/2008/10/24/can-you-see-russia-from-alaska.htm
I can see an airliner overhead, but that doesn't qualify me to fly it.
Governor Swill
>> It's still irrellevant though from the standpoint that Silly Sarah was
>> trying to claim that it makes her an expert on foreign policy.
>She was governor in a first response state.
>
>Nuff said, dolt.
And I'm sure she personally designed, built and commanded that
response on behalf of the Pentagon.
Governor Swill
>"� America was not born as a colonial power," he told the Arab viewing
>audience � implying we are now. And he regretfully confessed, "We
>sometimes make mistakes. We are not perfect."
>
>Sorry, but weren't we the ones that were attacked? Do we not stand in
>long lines and disrobe in airports because of them? Does anyone recall
>anywhere, anytime hearing apologies from any Arab or Muslim leader?
Are we perfect? Have we made no mistakes? Is it not effective policy
to lull one's enemies?
Do we not see already the benefits of cooperation from other nations?
Governor Swill
>> Security like it's some kind of federal program."
>> George W. Bush, November 2, 2000
>> "The Constitution established the United States of
>> America as a Christian nation"
>> John McCain, June 5 2008. The Constitution in fact
>> makes no mention of God or of Jesus or any religion
>> whatsoever.
>They have a very short memory. Bush couldn't speak without putting
>foot in his mouth, he never made any sense.
Sometimes he did, but on those occasions, he looked like a deer in
headlights.
>I can see Russia from my house...ROTFLMAO
*chuckle*
Mitchell Holman
> dilecticon <d...@lect.edu> wrote:
>
>>"� America was not born as a colonial power," he told the Arab viewing
>>audience � implying we are now. And he regretfully confessed, "We
>>sometimes make mistakes. We are not perfect."
>>
>>Sorry, but weren't we the ones that were attacked? Do we not stand in
>>long lines and disrobe in airports because of them?
We have had airport metal detectors in place since the
1960's because of AMERICANS hijacking planes.
Mitchell Holman
news:pu3bi553afo8gt0ir...@4ax.com:
> MACK DADDY <pepsiv...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 11, 9:28�pm, Barack Hussein Bohica
>><CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:00:37 -0800, "The Rock"
>>> <neverm...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Oh, I thought your Messiah was Bush or maybe Palin? She can see
>>> >Russia from her house. Hehehehe. ROTFLMAO.
>>>
>>> Palin never said that. �Your insistence of promoting that lie makes
>>> anything else you have to say not worth the electrons it arrives on.
>>
>>Palin said she could see Russia from land in Alaska. So while she may
>>not see it from her door it's totally irrellevant for her to even
>>mention that she can see Russia.
>
> Calm down, guys. I'm sure Sarah had lots and lots of trade and
> defense talks with Russia while she was mayor of Wasilla and during
> her partial term as governor of Alaska.
>
> Surely she had the Putins over for tea at least once.
That would be the Putins of Germany, no?
"I was in a conference in Germany and president Putin of
Germany gave one his old cold war style speeches there"
John McCain, June 9 2008.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfealLrWLIY
Yer Pal Al
>
> I can see Russia from my house... ROTFLMAO
Tina Fey isn't that funny.
MACK DADDY
> "The Rock" <neverm...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4b25402f$0$27497$892e...@news.lightningnews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jamir Quay" <s...@00.ter> wrote in message
> >news:hfva3m$2re$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> Capt. Bill wrote:
> >>> On Dec 8, 5:34 am, Barack Hussein Bohica
> >>> <CharlieFoxt...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Unions don't cause unemployment, you stupid moron!
> >>>> "Guaranteed Mediocrity at a Premium Price: Look for the Union Label!"
>
> >>> And where did Obama support unions?
>
> >> Well, well, well...a reply groups fraud artist, no matter:
>
> >> > And where did Obama support unions?
>
> >> Oh my, are you a lying MORON???
>
> >> Or just a common liar?
>
>
> >> CINCINNATI President Barack Obama declared Monday that modern benefits
> >> like paid leave, minimum wage and Social Security "all bear the union
> >> label," as he appealed to organized labor to help him win the health care
> >> fight in Congress.
>
>
> >> Delivering on President Obama's promise to boost the labor movement, the
> >> administration has announced a $35 million federal construction project
> >> in New Hampshire that requires union representation for the workers and
> >> forces nonunion employees to pay dues and contribute to a union pension
> >> fund.
>
> >> Mr. Obama issued an executive order in the first weeks of his presidency
> >> that would make the requirement, known as a "project labor agreement" or
> >> PLA, the norm for all government contracts on large-scale construction
> >> jobs. The order is under review and a final rule is not expected for
> >> months, but that did not stop the Labor Department from rushing to use a
> >> PLA to build its new Job Corps Center in Manchester, N.H.
>
> >>http://obamaspeeches.com/086-AFSCME-National-Convention-Obama-Speech.htm
>
> >> AFSCME National Convention - Challenge for Labor
>
> >> TOPIC: Economy & Labor
> >> August 7, 2006
> >> AFSCME National Convention
> >> Complete Text
>
> >> Thank you, and welcome to Chicago..
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
If not for Unions we would all be working 16 hours per day 7 days a
week. Is that what the Republitards want?
Kirk Reynolds
"Yer Pal Al" <caddys...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 13, 10:10 am, "The Rock" <neverm...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> I can see Russia from my house... ROTFLMAO
Tina Fey isn't that funny.
Yeah, it's never really funny when a comedian just repeats what someone else
says.
Kirk Reynolds
"MACK DADDY" <pepsiv...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Well, I don't think it's what their little lemming followers really want but
you know how it is.
These people are completely comfortable having lies spoon-fed to them and
being coaxed into living in fear.
MACK DADDY
> dilecticon <d...@lect.edu> wrote:
> >> Palin said she could see Russia from land in Alaska.
>
> >Guess what, YOU CAN!
>
>
> I can see an airliner overhead, but that doesn't qualify me to fly it.
>
> Swill
> --
> In the exam room . . .
> Doctor: "Public Opt . . ."
>
> Elephant: "SOCIALISM!"
>
> Doctor: "Reflexes good."
I can see the moon from like my livingroom window, so like that
totally makes me all astronauty n stuff!
dilecticon
> dilecticon <d...@lect.edu> wrote:
>>> It's still irrellevant though from the standpoint that Silly Sarah was
>>> trying to claim that it makes her an expert on foreign policy.
>
>> She was governor in a first response state.
>>
>> Nuff said, dolt.
>
> And I'm sure she personally designed, built and commanded that
> response on behalf of the Pentagon.
Non sequitur, what is your worthless ass doing back here?