Obama is ineligible to be President....No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States.......
scotia
at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the
Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who
shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen
Years a Resident within the United States.
The communists call us 'birthers', because they are scared to death of the
American people finding out about Obama's ineligibility. The left wing media
and Fox News desperately hid the facts about Obama's ineligibility prior to
the 2008 election, because they did not want to seem racist or be a
roadblock to the first African American president. That was more important
than the U.S. Constitution.
Obama created a website called "fight the smears"; meanwhile they smear
anyone that dares to question Obama's eligibility or the fact that he is NOT
a natural born citizen due to his father's Kenyan-British citizenship.
The big distraction is that this is about Obama's Hawaiian birth
certificate, but it is not. There is much more to this. The Obama
eligibility question would have been answered long ago, if Obama had proof
to end this once and for all, but he does not.
He has reportedly spent over $2 million fighting these allegations
This issue has been covered up by the Supreme Court, Senate and Congress
Judges desperate to rid this issue from their court room, dismiss the cases
because they do not want to handle this hot potato
One Judge swore that this case would go to trial and then mysteriously he
dismissed the case 2 months later. Who got to him? Reports said that the
Dept of Justice lawyers were insisting that this case must be dismissed.
Numerous soldiers and officers of the U.S. military filed suits and they
were all dismissed. ONE National Guard Major had his orders revoked to go to
Afghanistan. The obvious reason his orders were revoked? The DOJ and the
Pentagon wanted no part of this lawsuit seeing the light of day.
Please join our Facebook page to force Glenn Beck to finally report this
issue. Obama's ineligibility has been an issue for over 16 months and Glenn
Beck has done NOT one show on the still pending lawsuits. He has NOT had ONE
lawyer that is handling this case on his show. Beck and O' Reilly say this
is not an issue; meanwhile they refuse to admit that these pending lawsuits
ARE news worthy and the people have a right to know about it.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=222759394533&ref=mf
Freestyle
> No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,
> at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the
> Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who
> shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen
> Years a Resident within the United States.
>
> The communists call us 'birthers', because they are scared to death of the
> American people finding out about Obama's ineligibility.
Nope. You are called that because you are a bunch of laughable kooks.
Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
wrote:
>No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,
>at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the
>Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who
>shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen
>Years a Resident within the United States.
>
>
>
>The communists call us 'birthers', because they are scared to death of the
>American people finding out about Obama's ineligibility.
[ Nothing of any value snipped. ]
No, that's where you are wrong. In the first place, it's not commies
who are calling you "birthers." It yourselves, starting with your
leader Orly.
The rest of us are laughing at you brainless wackadoodles who keep up
with this foolishness.
ne...@millions.com
wrote:
>No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,
As the old radio character Senator Claghorn used to say, "I say, I
say, son" you're a tad late on that issue or just new about past
issues.
DCI
fargo116
> No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,
> at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the
> Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who
> shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen
> Years a Resident within the United States.
>
You get called 'raving loons' too, and not just by the commies.
S. Oslon
Stile4aly
I will gladly join your facebook page, but I don't know that Glenn
Beck is the best choice to do the reporting. I'm disturbed by the
rumors that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990, and have a
hard time trusting a possible rapist and murderer. If Glenn Beck
would simply issue a denial of the rumor that he raped and murdered a
girl in 1990, that would go a long way to extinguishing the
controversy. As it is, his refusal to deny the rumor that he raped
and murdered a girl in 1990 is worrying.
oz
Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
That Obama should be president is problematical
With his grandmaw saying she's seen
In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
The leftists' protests are every bit comical
COL. BILL KILGORE
"fargo116" <farg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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S. Oslon
Don't post when you're angry little man; you may misspell your own name.
Moron.
Hawkster
>
> "fargo116" <farg...@yahoo.com> wrote:.
> On Dec 17, 4:57 pm, "scotia" <scotia123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The communists call us 'birthers'.....
> You get called 'raving loons' too, and not just by the commies.
> S. Oslon
> Don't post when you're angry little man; you may misspell your own
> name.
> Moron.
Ohhhh, thank heaven that you signed off with the correct spelling of *your*
name, Mr. M......
Bugs
>
> I will gladly join your facebook page, but I don't know that Glenn
> Beck is the best choice to do the reporting. I'm disturbed by the
> rumors that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990, and have a
> hard time trusting a possible rapist and murderer. If Glenn Beck
> would simply issue a denial of the rumor that he raped and murdered a
> girl in 1990, that would go a long way to extinguishing the
> controversy. As it is, his refusal to deny the rumor that he raped
> and murdered a girl in 1990 is worrying.
I've heard Glenn Beck is Rush's bastard child. Any truth to that?
COL. BILL KILGORE
"Hawkster" <mr....@NOSPAMuymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CE513056C...@SayWhat.org...
What was it the folks working in the ICU back in 2001 during Jill's stay
used to call you? Oh that's right, they didn't call you anything - as you
were never there.
fargo116
Actually, it's Birthers that are mocked and dismissed every time they
make this dumbass argument.
S. Olson
fargo116
> "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "fargo116" <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:.
> > On Dec 17, 4:57 pm, "scotia" <scotia123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The communists call us 'birthers'.....
> > You get called 'raving loons' too, and not just by the commies.
> > S. Oslon
> > Don't post when you're angry little man; you may misspell your own
> > name.
> > Moron.
>
> Ohhhh, thank heaven that you signed off with the correct spelling of *your*
> name, Mr. M......
Haven't you ever heard of transposing letters, Hawkin? Happens all the
time.
See?
S. Olson
fargo116
wrote:
> "fargo116" <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Nice to see you have time to denounce a transposition on my part,
Cornhole. You don't seem to have enough time to post an example of
where ACORN workers were convicted of election fraud, though. Or is it
that you don't have the smarts? Might be that, since the last time I
demanded an example you sent me examples of REGISTRATION fraud, which
is a totally different crime. It's like me demanding examples of
murder and you sending in examples of arson.
S. Olson
S. Olson
COL. BILL KILGORE
S. Olson
S. Olson
Instead of focusing on questions of semantics, perhaps you should remove
your head from your ass long enough to watch the socialist "utopia" you and
you fellow left-wing kooks had dreamed about collapsing around you, along
with Dems and the mulatto in the White House. BTW, have you checked on your
kids lately - they may be playing with a friend whose father has a gun
collection! What a maroon.
fargo116
Since when is fucking up the type of crime--as you did-- 'a question
of semantics?' LOL! Face it, Cornhole, you just didn't know and can't
admit it, which makes it even more choice.
>perhaps you should remove
> your head from your ass long enough to watch the socialist "utopia" you and
> you fellow left-wing kooks had dreamed about collapsing around you, along
> with Dems and the mulatto in the White House. BTW, have you checked on your
> kids lately - they may be playing with a friend whose father has a gun
> collection! What a maroon.
Sorry, she still isn't permitted to play with ANYONE who's parents own
a gun collection, Cornhole. And there is NOTHING you can do about it.
I already made one guy SELL his entire collection because he fucked
with me and because his kid whined and cried that he believed his guns
were more important that he was. If I find out he's trying to amass
another one, she's forbidden a second time. That really, REALLY bugs
you but guess what? I don't care.
Got that?
S. Olson
Freestyle
> No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,
> at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the
> Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who
> shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen
> Years a Resident within the United States.
>
> The communists call us 'birthers', because they are scared to death of the
> American people finding out about Obama's ineligibility. The left wing media
> and Fox News desperately hid the facts about Obama's ineligibility prior to
> the 2008 election, because they did not want to seem racist or be a
> roadblock to the first African American president. That was more important
> than the U.S. Constitution.
>
http://i48.tinypic.com/5js01t.jpg
COL. BILL KILGORE
We have no intention of trying to "do anything about it".
I already made one guy SELL his entire collection because he fucked
with me
Oh yeah. We all believe that. You and you alone "made" some gun owner sell
his entire collection just so your kids could play together. You do impress
yourself, don't you.
and because his kid whined and cried that he believed his guns
were more important that he was. If I find out he's trying to amass
another one, she's forbidden a second time.
Don't forget to make her stand in the corner also.
That really, REALLY bugs
you but guess what? I don't care.
Got that?
The only thing we "got" out of this little chat is that you are one sick
left-wing kook with a bit of an anger management issue. The Colonel will be
keeping on eye on your behavior, and give you an occasional kick in the ass
on an as-needed basis.
fargo116
No answer. LOL Wassa matta, Cornhole? Did you get pegged?
> >perhaps you should remove
> > your head from your ass long enough to watch the socialist "utopia" you
> > and
> > you fellow left-wing kooks had dreamed about collapsing around you, along
> > with Dems and the mulatto in the White House. BTW, have you checked on
> > your
> > kids lately - they may be playing with a friend whose father has a gun
> > collection! What a maroon.
>
> Sorry, she still isn't permitted to play with ANYONE who's parents own
> a gun collection, Cornhole. And there is NOTHING you can do about it.
>
> We have no intention of trying to "do anything about it".
That encapsulates your entire approach.
>
> I already made one guy SELL his entire collection because he fucked
> with me
>
> Oh yeah. We all believe that. You and you alone "made" some gun owner sell
> his entire collection just so your kids could play together. You do impress
> yourself, don't you.
I didn't say that, Cornhole. But you know that because you separated
the paragraph. Wassa matta? Afraid OTHER parents might do the same
thing?
> and because his kid whined and cried that he believed his guns
> were more important that he was. If I find out he's trying to amass
> another one, she's forbidden a second time.
>
> Don't forget to make her stand in the corner also.
I don't need to do that but I will if it's justified. Got that?
> That really, REALLY bugs
> you but guess what? I don't care.
>
> Got that?
>
> The only thing we "got" out of this little chat is that you are one sick
> left-wing kook with a bit of an anger management issue. The Colonel will be
> keeping on eye on your behavior, and give you an occasional kick in the ass
> on an as-needed basis.
Are you telling me that as a father I don't have the right to raise my
child as long as I'm not breaking the law, Cornhole?
LOL Cornhole, the only thing you can kick is the bucket.
Cornhole, how come you can't give us an example of ACORN violating
election fraud laws? Could it be because it never ever has?
S. Olson
COL. BILL KILGORE
Not at all. We're telling you that you are a certifiable left-wing loon (as
your so-called "blog" so aptly demonstrates) who unfortunately places his
extreme political views ahead of his child's normal development. We doubt
that it's the gun collection that bothers you; more likely the gun collector
is a conservative and that's something your angry and raging left-wing brain
just can't deal with.
LOL Cornhole, the only thing you can kick is the bucket.
Cornhole, how come you can't give us an example of ACORN violating
election fraud laws? Could it be because it never ever has?
Call it want you will - ACORN is toast.
Shithead Olson
Lamont Cranston
news:hgeree$be2$1...@news.eternal-september.org
>
> Don't post when you're angry little man; you may misspell your own
> name. Moron.
It's easier to spell your name correctly when it consists of only five
letters like yours.
oz
Show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE, not some useless Certification of Live
Birth. That proves nothing. If Obama had one, he'd produce it, but
he doesn't and that's why he's ineligible to be president.
Hawkster
news:hgg0vh$oc5$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> "Hawkster" <mr....@NOSPAMuymail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CE513056C...@SayWhat.org...
>> "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wski...@patriotism.us.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> "fargo116" <farg...@yahoo.com> wrote:.
>>> On Dec 17, 4:57 pm, "scotia" <scotia123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> The communists call us 'birthers'.....
>>
>>> You get called 'raving loons' too, and not just by the commies.
>>> S. Oslon
>>
>>> Don't post when you're angry little man; you may misspell your own
>>> name.
>>
>>> Moron.
>>
>> Ohhhh, thank heaven that you signed off with the correct spelling of
>> *your*
>> name, Mr. M......
>>
>
> What was it the folks working in the ICU back in 2001 during Jill's
> stay used to call you?
Kilgore's Bane.
> Oh that's right, they didn't call you anything
> - as you were never there.
Sooooo, now you want to further embellish your long-running fairy tale
with this "never there" stuff -- and only eight years too late.
Sweet.
ChasNemo
>
> - Show quoted text -
Translation: Proven fraud and disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore is in the
final throes of losing his ACORN argument and is preparing to cut and
run. Again. He's lost every argument he ever started, been kicked to
the curb in every thread where he tried to intervene, and never driven
*anyone* off Usenet. Wotta maroon!!! <snicker>
fargo116
You know what? Why should I?
The state of Hawaii has verified that President Obama is a natural-
born citizen of the United States and had a valid birth certificate.
How come you don't believe the state of Hawaii and think you are much
more competent than it to judge what's valid and what isn't?
S. Olson
COL. BILL KILGORE
S. Olson
Spoken like the true mindless left-wing robot that you are. Your
willingness to blindly believe a government institution just because "they
say so" shows how dysfunctional your thought processes really are. And your
referral to the state of Hawaii as "it" also displays your political
naivety. The state of Hawaii is not an 'it"; like other government
institutions it is a compilation of numerous human beings and thus all prone
to human error, biases, prejudices and all the other multitude of human
failings. We personally don't buy into the "birther" thing but the
inability and/or unwillingness of anyone inside or outside of government to
put the whole things to rest with the simple display of an actual birth
certificate just fuels the speculation. Now that's your civics lesson for
today sonny. You're dismissed.
fargo116
wrote:
> "fargo116" <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Thanks Cornhole but you forgot to answer the question. What makes oz
and YOU think you are much more competent that the state of Hawaii to
determine what's valid and what isn't? After all, the Birthers have
NEVER won a court case on this point. NEVER.
S. Olson
Tim Crowley
> Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>
> That Obama should be president is problematical
>
> With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>
> In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
She never said that. Why do you lie? Nevermind, "oz" we know why you
lie.
Tim Crowley
> On Dec 18, 10:12 am, fargo116 <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 7:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > > Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>
> > > That Obama should be president is problematical
>
> > > With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>
> > > In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>
> > > The leftists' protests are every bit comical
>
> > Actually, it's Birthers that are mocked and dismissed every time they
> > make this dumbass argument.
>
> > S. Olson
>
> Show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE,
It's been shown since before the election. The Decider, The People of
The United States of America reviewed the facts that you deny and
Elected Barack Obama , President of the United States of America.
Fact. And nothing your silly lies can do to change that.
>not some useless Certification of Live
> Birth. That proves nothing. If Obama had one, he'd produce it, but
> he doesn't and that's why he's ineligible to be president.
Yet, there it is http://www.whitehouse.gov/
Buahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
hint: you're a moron.
oz
>
> - Show quoted text -
All Hawaii shows is a Certification of Live Birth, which does NOT say
that the birth took place in Hawaii. They have not shown a Birth
Certifcate. Would you like to guess why, you say? Might it be
because one does nt exist? Of course. Now even somebody as dense as
you can see that, one would hope.
Tim Crowley
wrote:
> "fargo116" <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
hint: you're a retard.
oz
>
> - Show quoted text -
AND WHY DOES THE STATE OF HAWAII NOT SHOW THE ACTUAL BIRTH
CERTIFICATE???? COULD IT BE BECAUSE ONE DOES NOT EXIST???
DUUUHHHH!!! Gee, now that's a thought......
Tim Crowley
> On Dec 18, 10:12 am, fargo116 <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 7:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > > Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>
> > > That Obama should be president is problematical
>
> > > With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>
> > > In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>
> > > The leftists' protests are every bit comical
>
> > Actually, it's Birthers that are mocked and dismissed every time they
> > make this dumbass argument.
>
> > S. Olson
>
> Show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE,
It's been shown since before the election. The Decider, The People of
The United States of America reviewed the facts that you deny and
Elected Barack Obama , President of the United States of America.
Fact. And nothing your silly lies can do to change that.
>not some useless Certification of Live
> Birth. That proves nothing. If Obama had one, he'd produce it, but
> he doesn't and that's why he's ineligible to be president.
Yet, there it is http://www.whitehouse.gov/
Tim Crowley
> Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>
> That Obama should be president is problematical
>
> With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>
> In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
She never said that. Why do you lie? Nevermind, "oz" we know why you
lie.
>
Timothy Horrigan
<PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> No, that's where you are wrong. In the first place, it's not commies
> who are calling you "birthers." It yourselves, starting with your
> leader Orly.
>
> The rest of us are laughing at you brainless wackadoodles who keep up
> with this foolishness.
I admit that "birther" is an EXTREMELY derogatory term. It is amost
as nasty an epithet as "teabagger." But it is not unfair. Because
your theories are insane.
Obama was born in Hawaii. Period. He has ample proof of that. And
he was not born in Kenya.
COL. BILL KILGORE
S. Olson
You seem fixated and unable multi-task. Consider some psychiatric help -
soon.
COL. BILL KILGORE
"Tim Crowley" <timmyt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9e83106a-1373-49e1...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 17, 6:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
> Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>
> That Obama should be president is problematical
>
> With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>
> In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
She never said that. Why do you lie? Nevermind, "oz" we know why you
lie.
Congrats. We thought your vocabulary was limited to single words. You
actually can put several sentences together. How proud your mama must be.
oz
>
> Buahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
>
> hint: you're a moron.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The people were fooled by the lirul media which was enthralled with
the prospects of having a nigger for president. Slowly but surely the
people are waking up, which is seen in Obama's race to the bottom,
along with the liars of the media, both of which are trying to beat
graviity's pull of 32 ft per sec per sec.
oz
>
> - Show quoted text -
She did, but something got her to say she had to rephrase her
statement. I wonder what that was........................hmmmm???.
fargo116
It is and it's the kind of thought a person might have who doesn't
know that the ROUND peg goes in the ROUND hole .
The main reason the state of Hawaii does not show the 'long form is
simple. What you see is what the state of Hawaii gives out when
someone demands someone else's birth certificate. Meanwhile, the state
has vouched for the original.
But let's face it, you really don't want the President's 'long form'
birth certificate, do you? Even if you HAD the orignial in your hot
little hands, you'd scream it was a fake.
You know it's true.
Got that?
S. Olson
fargo116
Insisting that you answer a question that you keep ducking is
'fixated?' I think the word you want is 'dogged.'
S. Olson
COL. BILL KILGORE
S. Olson
1. You're in no position to insist on an answer from anyone.
2. We've already stated our position on why we would not necessarily accept
as final *any* answer from a governmental entity (other than the military of
course).
3. You're full of shit.
fargo116
Gosh, then why do you think YOU are?
> 2. We've already stated our position on why we would not necessarily accept
> as final *any* answer from a governmental entity (other than the military of
> course).
Yes, you've said you don't trust the state but you don't say WHY you
think so. In other words, you don't answer the question. You have a
real problem when it comes to doing that, you know. Hell, you once
screamed that ACORN had committed election fraud. But when I asked for
an example. What I got was:
[crickets]
> 3. You're full of shit.
Answer the question, Cornhole. Why, it's beginning to look as if you
can't.
S. Olson
COL. BILL KILGORE
[crickets]
Which facet of the English language is it that gives you the most trouble?
The "why we don't neccessarily trust the state" question was answered in
full. Do you have some type of learning disability or are you just an
imbecile?
Shithead Olson
Patriot Games
>Stile4aly wrote:
>I've heard Glenn Beck is Rush's bastard child. Any truth to that?
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:31:52 -0500, Bugs <Bu...@bunny.com> wrote:
>Patriot Games wrote:
>> Instructions for DemocRATs:
>> 1) Expect us to tolerate you in your left hand.
>> 2) Shit in your right hand.
>> 3) Feed from the full hand!
>> Bwahahahaha!!
>Is everyone in your trailer park as smart as you, or have a few actually
>passed the fifth grade?
Frauds are BUSTED and EXPOSED:
From: Bugs <Bu...@bunny.com>
From: peaches <pea...@cumngetit.com>
From: peaches <pea...@getit.com>
From: clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.14.86.226
bugs
Wow - the trailer park trash actually has the brains of a fourth grader.
Tim Crowley
Buahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
hint: you lost.
Tim Crowley
> On Dec 19, 11:49 am, Tim Crowley <timmyturm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 6:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > > Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>
> > > That Obama should be president is problematical
>
> > > With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>
> > > In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>
> > She never said that. Why do you lie? Nevermind, "oz" we know why you
> > lie.
>
> > > The leftists' protests are every bit comical- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> She did,
No, actually she did not. You are lying. It's why you have to hide
behind the silly handle.
Tim Crowley
Buahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
hint: you lost.
fargo116
No it's wasn't it was a long rant on your behalf, screaming and
hollering about government in genera but you didn't give any REASON
why not.
So again, Cornhole, answer the question. I'm getting the feeling that
you can't.
OH, and before I forget. Why do YOU seem to be under the impression
that we should answer YOUR questions but YOU are under no obligatin to
answer OURS? Why do you think you're better than us?
S. Olson
COL. BILL KILGORE
On Dec 19, 12:41 pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
wrote:
> "fargo116" <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3e78dfaf-62f6-46dd...@g7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 19, 12:09 pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
We never have to "holler and scream". Our statements contain nothing but
pinpoint accuracy and can be considered the final word on any issue we
choose to address.
So again, Cornhole, answer the question. I'm getting the feeling that
you can't.
We have. Learn how to understand what you're reading.
OH, and before I forget. Why do YOU seem to be under the impression
that we should answer YOUR questions but YOU are under no obligatin to
answer OURS? Why do you think you're better than us?
Yes.
Shithead Olson
ArmyOfDorkness
"oz" <wizardr...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:f408793f-d93c-4714...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
You don't even try to hide your overt racism anymore. Go to hell scum.
ChasNemo
> On Dec 19, 8:56�am, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "fargo116" <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e92ecfea-bfdd-4add...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On Dec 18, 10:12 am, fargo116 <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 17, 7:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>
> > > > > That Obama should be president is problematical
>
> > > > > With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>
> > > > > In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>
> > > > > The leftists' protests are every bit comical
>
> > > > Actually, it's Birthers that are mocked and dismissed every time they
> > > > make this dumbass argument.
>
> > > > S. Olson
>
> > > Birth. That proves nothing. If Obama had one, he'd produce it, but
> > > he doesn't and that's why he's ineligible to be president.
>
>
> > The state of Hawaii has verified that President Obama is a natural-
> > born citizen of the United States and had a valid birth certificate.
> > How come you don't believe the state of Hawaii and think you are much
> > more competent than it to judge what's valid and what isn't?
>
> > S. Olson
>
> > Spoken like the true mindless left-wing robot that you are. �Your
> > willingness to blindly believe a government institution just because "they
> > say so" shows how dysfunctional your thought processes really are. �And your
> > referral to the state of Hawaii as "it" also displays your political
> > naivety. �The state of Hawaii is not an 'it"; like other government
> > institutions it is a compilation of numerous human beings and thus all prone
> > to human error, biases, prejudices and all the other multitude of human
> > failings. �We personally don't buy into the "birther" thing but the
> > inability and/or unwillingness of anyone inside or outside of government to
> > put the whole things to rest with the simple display of an actual birth
> > certificate just fuels the speculation. �Now that's your civics lesson for
> > today sonny. �You're dismissed.
>
> Thanks Cornhole but you forgot to answer the question. �What makes oz
> and YOU think you are much more competent that the state of Hawaii to
> determine what's valid and what isn't? After all, the Birthers have
> NEVER won a court case on this point. NEVER.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ooops. Now you've done. You've embarrassed OzTardO and proven fraud
and disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore with FACTS! They'll bluster, and
OzTardO will do a few lousy limericks, and then they'll skulk away.
<snicker>
ChasNemo
>
> Buahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
>
> hint: you're a moron.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Ouch. Keep this up and OzTardO will write another lousy limerick.
<snicker>
ChasNemo
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Speaking of DENSE -- choke on this FACT, OzTardO: .......Birthers have
ChasNemo
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> - Show quoted text -
Proven fraud and disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore is in fact a well known
Usenet buffoon -- one aspect of his rightardedness.
ChasNemo
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You've never had a thought in your life, OzTardo, and no, the chunks
you swallow and puke up from Limbloat and Insannity don't count as
"thoughts". <snicker>
ChasNemo
>
> Buahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
>
> hint: you're a moron.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It'll take more than a hint to convince OzTardO that he's a moron.
Hell, he's so stupid that he actually believes the birther bullshit,
which places him at the very bottom on the scale of moronicity.
<snicker>
ChasNemo
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You seem to be totally unable to answer the question, o proven fraud
and disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore. Why is that, buffoon boi? <snicker>
ChasNemo
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> - Show quoted text -
Nice little meltdown there, OzTardO. Next time try to work a few
facts into your puerile puking. <snicker>
ChasNemo
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> - Show quoted text -
Yet another attempted dodge from proven fraud and disgrace Col. Bill
Kilgore. Doesn't work, buffoon boi. Answer the question. Now!
THAT'S AN ORDER!!!
ChasNemo
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> - Show quoted text -
Proven fraud and disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore is both dishonest and
insane. THAT'S why he can't and won't answer factual questions, e.g.,
what are his military credentials?
Patriot Games
Being BUSTED by a "fourth grader" says WHAT about you???
Hahahahahahaha!!!
Lamont Cranston
> On Dec 18, 10:12 am, fargo116 <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 17, 7:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>>
>>> That Obama should be president is problematical
>>
>>> With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>>
>>> In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>>
>>> The leftists' protests are every bit comical
>>
>> Actually, it's Birthers that are mocked and dismissed every time they
>> make this dumbass argument.
>>
>> S. Olson
>
> Show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE, not some useless Certification of Live
> Birth. That proves nothing. If Obama had one, he'd produce it, but
> he doesn't and that's why he's ineligible to be president.
The original birth certificate is the property of Hawaii Department of
Health, dumbfuck. You've been told this many times. Not only is Obama
eligible to be president, he is president.
http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
Born identity
Birth certificate styles adjust to fit times and regulations
By June Watanabe
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jun 06, 2009
Question: What is the state's policy for issuing a "Certification of
Live Birth" versus a "Certificate of Live Birth"? My first, second and
fourth children received certificates, but my third and fifth children
received certifications. Why the difference? The certificate contains
more information, such as the name of hospital, certifier's name and
title; attendant's name and title, etc. The certification has only the
child's name, date and time of birth, sex, city/island/county of birth,
mother's maiden name, mother's race, father's name and father's race.
Why doesn't the state just issue certificates? When did it stop issuing
certificates? Is it possible to obtain certificates for my third and
fifth children?
Answer: No, you can't obtain a "certificate of live birth" anymore.
The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth
certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.
The department only issues "certifications" of live births, and that is
the "official birth certificate" issued by the state of Hawaii, she
said.
And, it's only available in electronic form.
Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.
"At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into
electronic files for consistent reporting," she said.
Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to
the department.
"The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now
keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help
window for most requests," Okubo said.
Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth
documents, Okubo said the Health Department "does not have a short-form
or long-form certificate."
"The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades
to conform to national standards and models," she said.
Okubo also emphasized the certification form "contains all the
information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions
requiring a birth certificate."
She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current
certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting
all federal and other requirements."
The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate
received national attention during last year's presidential campaign.
Those who doubted Barack Obama's American citizenship called the copy of
the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.
Asked about that document, Okubo said, "This is the same certified copy
everyone receives when they request a birth certificate."
We found a discussion of "the truth about Obama's birth certificate" on
the Web site FactCheck.org --
www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html.
The organization describes itself as "a nonpartisan, nonprofit 'consumer
advocate' for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and
confusion in U.S. politics."
It says a "certification of live birth" is, in fact, a short-form
official birth certificate. Information included in the document might
differ from state to state.
Question: Who severely cut back a lot of trees at Kokee Beach Park in
the Portlock area, leaving a huge pile of rubbish? I surf off the park
and note over the years that it has always been kept clean. The trees
seem to be christmasberry and sea grape trees. They added greatly to the
ambience of an otherwise barren park. They were cut back severely and
left in trash heaps. That's unusual as the contractor has kept the park
neat for years and never left huge piles of trash. Was this legal
cutting?
Answer: No. It turns out the trees were cut without authorization.
The cuttings were removed after we inquired about it a few weeks ago.
Officials have their "suspicions" as to who chopped the trees and why,
said Lester Chang, director of the city Department of Parks and
Recreation. However, he declined to voice those suspicions without
proof.
The main thing, he said, was that the trees were not butchered or
damaged. "It wasn't a vandalism type" of cut, Chang said. Whoever did it
"did it with care."
He said the trees are regularly trimmed either in-house or by a
contractor and done so "from the standpoint of health and safety." They
weren't scheduled for trimming when the unauthorized cuts were made.
Write to "Kokua Line" at Honolulu Star-Bulletin, 7 Waterfront Plaza,
Suite 210, 500 Ala Moana, Honolulu 96813; call 529-4773; fax 529-4750;
or e-mail koku...@starbulletin.com.
Question: What is the state's policy for issuing a "Certification of
Live Birth" versus a "Certificate of Live Birth"? My first, second and
fourth children received certificates, but my third and fifth children
received certifications. Why the difference? The certificate contains
more information, such as the name of hospital, certifier's name and
title; attendant's name and title, etc. The certification has only the
child's name, date and time of birth, sex, city/island/county of birth,
mother's maiden name, mother's race, father's name and father's race.
Why doesn't the state just issue certificates? When did it stop issuing
certificates? Is it possible to obtain certificates for my third and
fifth children?
Answer: No, you can't obtain a "certificate of live birth" anymore.
The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth
certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.
The department only issues "certifications" of live births, and that is
the "official birth certificate" issued by the state of Hawaii, she
said.
And, it's only available in electronic form.
Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.
"At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into
electronic files for consistent reporting," she said.
Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to
the department.
"The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now
keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help
window for most requests," Okubo said.
Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth
documents, Okubo said the Health Department "does not have a short-form
or long-form certificate."
"The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades
to conform to national standards and models," she said.
Okubo also emphasized the certification form "contains all the
information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions
requiring a birth certificate."
She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current
certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting
all federal and other requirements."
The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate
received national attention during last year's presidential campaign.
Those who doubted Barack Obama's American citizenship called the copy of
the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.
Asked about that document, Okubo said, "This is the same certified copy
everyone receives when they request a birth certificate."
We found a discussion of "the truth about Obama's birth certificate" on
the Web site FactCheck.org --
www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html.
The organization describes itself as "a nonpartisan, nonprofit 'consumer
advocate' for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and
confusion in U.S. politics."
It says a "certification of live birth" is, in fact, a short-form
official birth certificate. Information included in the document might
differ from state to state.
Lamont Cranston
news:hgit35$r9k$1...@news.eternal-september.org
> "fargo116" <farg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:e92ecfea-bfdd-4add...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 18, 9:31 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 17, 7:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>>
>>>> That Obama should be president is problematical
>>
>>>> With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>>
>>>> In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>>
>>>> The leftists' protests are every bit comical
>>
>>> Actually, it's Birthers that are mocked and dismissed every time
>>> they make this dumbass argument.
>>
>>> S. Olson
>>
>> Show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE, not some useless Certification of Live
>> Birth. That proves nothing. If Obama had one, he'd produce it, but
>> he doesn't and that's why he's ineligible to be president.
>
>
> The state of Hawaii has verified that President Obama is a natural-
> born citizen of the United States and had a valid birth certificate.
> How come you don't believe the state of Hawaii and think you are much
> more competent than it to judge what's valid and what isn't?
>
> S. Olson
>
> Spoken like the true mindless left-wing robot that you are.
Spoken like a true, empty-headed, racist birther.
Lamont Cranston
> On Dec 19, 11:32 am, fargo116 <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 19, 8:56 am, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> news:e92ecfea-bfdd-4add...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Dec 18, 9:31 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> On Dec 18, 10:12 am, fargo116 <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Dec 17, 7:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>>
>>>>>> That Obama should be president is problematical
>>
>>>>>> With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>>
>>>>>> In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>>
>>>>>> The leftists' protests are every bit comical
>>
>>>>> Actually, it's Birthers that are mocked and dismissed every time
>>>>> they make this dumbass argument.
>>
>>>>> S. Olson
>>
>>>> Show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE, not some useless Certification of
>>>> Live Birth. That proves nothing. If Obama had one, he'd produce
>>>> it, but he doesn't and that's why he's ineligible to be president.
>>
>>> You know what? Why should I?
>>
>>> The state of Hawaii has verified that President Obama is a natural-
>>> born citizen of the United States and had a valid birth certificate.
>>> How come you don't believe the state of Hawaii and think you are
>>> much
>>> more competent than it to judge what's valid and what isn't?
>>
>>> S. Olson
>>
>>> willingness to blindly believe a government institution just
>>> because "they say so" shows how dysfunctional your thought
>>> processes really are. And your referral to the state of Hawaii as
>>> "it" also displays your political naivety. The state of Hawaii is
>>> not an 'it"; like other government institutions it is a compilation
>>> of numerous human beings and thus all prone to human error, biases,
>>> prejudices and all the other multitude of human failings. We
>>> personally don't buy into the "birther" thing but the inability
>>> and/or unwillingness of anyone inside or outside of government to
>>> put the whole things to rest with the simple display of an actual
>>> birth certificate just fuels the speculation. Now that's your
>>> civics lesson for today sonny. You're dismissed.
>>
>> Thanks Cornhole but you forgot to answer the question. What makes oz
>> and YOU think you are much more competent that the state of Hawaii to
>> determine what's valid and what isn't? After all, the Birthers have
>> NEVER won a court case on this point. NEVER.
>>
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> CERTIFICATE???? COULD IT BE BECAUSE ONE DOES NOT EXIST???
> DUUUHHHH!!! Gee, now that's a thought......
http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
Lamont Cranston
> On Dec 19, 10:36 am, fargo116 <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 18, 9:31 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 18, 10:12 am, fargo116 <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 7:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>>
>>>>> That Obama should be president is problematical
>>
>>>>> With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>>
>>>>> In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>>
>>>>> The leftists' protests are every bit comical
>>
>>>> Actually, it's Birthers that are mocked and dismissed every time
>>>> they make this dumbass argument.
>>
>>>> S. Olson
>>
>>> Show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE, not some useless Certification of
>>> Live Birth. That proves nothing. If Obama had one, he'd produce it,
>>> but he doesn't and that's why he's ineligible to be president.
>>
>> You know what? Why should I?
>>
>> The state of Hawaii has verified that President Obama is a natural-
>> born citizen of the United States and had a valid birth certificate.
>> How come you don't believe the state of Hawaii and think you are much
>> more competent than it to judge what's valid and what isn't?
>>
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> that the birth took place in Hawaii. They have not shown a Birth
> Certifcate. Would you like to guess why, you say? Might it be
> because one does nt exist? Of course. Now even somebody as dense as
> you can see that, one would hope.
http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
Lamont Cranston
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 18, 10:12 am, fargo116 <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 7:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>>
>>>>> That Obama should be president is problematical
>>
>>>>> With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>>
>>>>> In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>>
>>>>> The leftists' protests are every bit comical
>>
>>>> Actually, it's Birthers that are mocked and dismissed every time
>>>> they make this dumbass argument.
>>
>>>> S. Olson
>>
>>> Show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE,
>>
>> The United States of America reviewed the facts that you deny and
>> Elected Barack Obama , President of the United States of America.
>> Fact. And nothing your silly lies can do to change that.
>>
>>> Birth. That proves nothing. If Obama had one, he'd produce it, but
>>> he doesn't and that's why he's ineligible to be president.
>>
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> the prospects of having a nigger for president.
Inside every birther lurks a racist.
Lamont Cranston
>>
>>> Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>>
>>> That Obama should be president is problematical
>>
>>> With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>>
>>> In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>>
>> lie.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> statement. I wonder what that was........................hmmmm???.
No, she did not. In fact, she said just the opposite.
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/07/23/liddy/
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 17:45 EDT
No, Obama's grandmother didn't say he was born in Kenya
Another one of the birther myths hits the mainstream, courtesy of G.
Gordon Liddy's appearance on MSNBC
By Alex Koppelman
Among those on television who've been covering the sudden public
resurgence of the Birther movement -- but in a much more responsible way
than Lou Dobbs -- is MSNBC's Chris Matthews. The other day, he beat up
pretty badly on Rep. John Campbell, R-Calif., who's a co-sponsor of the
"Birther bill" that would require future presidential candidates to
provide proof of their natural-born citizenship. Thursday, he hosted
Watergate burglar turned radio host G. Gordon Liddy, who's fallen under
the Birthers' sway.
Liddy himself looked decidedly unwell, and sounded out of sorts -- even
Matthews seemed to realize that making him into a pi�ata would be
unsporting. I'm not going to do it either, but you can watch the video
below.
I'm posting on the appearance, though, because of something Liddy said
during it: "You've got a deposition, which is a sworn statement, from
the step-grandmother, who says, 'I was present and saw him born in
Mombasa, Kenya.'"
Liddy got this particular myth a little garbled, but it's a favorite of
the Birthers'. I've covered it before, but it's worth posting on now, I
think, because cable news is just getting back to this story (there was
some coverage late last year, when the Supreme Court declined to hear
one of the Birther lawsuits) and hosts like Matthews don't know all the
crazy twists of the conspiracy theory well enough to knock them down.
What Liddy was referring to is actually an affidavit filed by a street
preacher named Ron McRae, who conducted an interview with Sarah Obama,
the second wife of President Obama's grandfather, through a translator.
(Sarah Obama is not the president's biological grandmother, but he calls
her "Granny Sarah.")
In that interview, Sarah Obama does in fact say at one point that she
was there for her grandson's birth. But that was a mistake, a confusion
in translation. As soon as a jubilant McRae began to press her for
further details about her grandson being born in Kenya, the family
realized the mistake and corrected him. And corrected him. And corrected
him. (The audio is available for download here:
http://s16v.com/americasright/8167169.wma )
No matter, though, because people who believe in a conspiracy theory
simply hear what they want to hear. So some Birther sites have posted
transcripts and YouTube clips that end abruptly with the mistranslation
and don't include the corrections. McRae, for his part, included the
full translation in his affidavit -- he thinks it's all just part of the
conspiracy. "Some few younger relatives, including [translator Vitalis
Akech Ogombe]," McRae wrote in his court filing, "have obviously been
versed to counter such facts with the common purported information from
the American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii."
Here's the conversation:
MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to
see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present
when he was born in Kenya?
OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was
born.
MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the
hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he
born in Mombasa?
OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.
MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.
OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.
MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya.
I was going to go by and see where he was born.
OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the
state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of
Hawaii.
fargo116
The kind of 'pinpoint accuracy' that can't answer a question. I mean,
take a look at the questions Cornhole refuses to answer:
1. What makes the likes of you more competent to judge the truth or
falsity of something than the state of Hawaii?
2. What are the examples of ACORN committing election fraud?
3. Why do you think you're better than us?
S. Olson.
oz
>
> - Show quoted text -
This coing from a moron that doesn't even know how to set her house
thermostat.
oz
>
> - Show quoted text -
This coming from a cretin who says she's not who she is, as was proven
over an over.
fargo116
Like that's hard.
S. Olson
> They'll bluster, and
> OzTardO will do a few lousy limericks, and then they'll skulk away.
> <snicker>- Hide quoted text -
oz
> > CERTIFICATE???? COULD IT BE BECAUSE ONE DOES NOT EXIST???
> > DUUUHHHH!!! Gee, now that's a thought
>
> know that the ROUND peg goes in the ROUND hole .
>
> The main reason the state of Hawaii does not show the 'long form is
> simple. What you see is what the state of Hawaii gives out when
> someone demands someone else's birth certificate. Meanwhile, the state
> has vouched for the original.
>
> But let's face it, you really don't want the President's 'long form'
> birth certificate, do you? Even if you HAD the orignial in your hot
> little hands, you'd scream it was a fake.
>
> You know it's true.
oz
wrote:
> "oz" <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'm a REALIST, not a racist. You, on the other hand, are either a
nigger or a white masochistic, guilt-ridden stupid mother fucker.
fargo116
LOL 'I'm not a racist," you claim. "I just don't want those niggers
marrying my sister!"
Who do you think you're fooling, peckerwood? Face it. You're as racist
as the guy holding the kerosene at a klan rally. And all of us know
it.
S. Olson
oz
wrote:
> "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org> wrote in messagenews:hgit35$r9k$1...@news.eternal-september.org
>
>
>
>
>
> > "fargo116" <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:e92ecfea-bfdd-4add...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 18, 9:31 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
> >> On Dec 18, 10:12 am, fargo116 <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Dec 17, 7:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>
> >>>> That Obama should be president is problematical
>
> >>>> With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>
> >>>> In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>
> >>>> The leftists' protests are every bit comical
>
> >>> Actually, it's Birthers that are mocked and dismissed every time
> >>> they make this dumbass argument.
>
> >>> S. Olson
>
> >> Show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE, not some useless Certification of Live
> >> Birth. That proves nothing. If Obama had one, he'd produce it, but
> >> he doesn't and that's why he's ineligible to be president.
>
> > You know what? Why should I?
>
> > The state of Hawaii has verified that President Obama is a natural-
> > born citizen of the United States and had a valid birth certificate.
> > How come you don't believe the state of Hawaii and think you are much
> > more competent than it to judge what's valid and what isn't?
>
> > S. Olson
>
> > Spoken like the true mindless left-wing robot that you are.
>
> Spoken like a true, empty-headed, racist birther.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
BULLSHIT!
Hawaii also issues those Certification of Live Births for people NOT
born in Hawaii. AND, they did not burn the paper Birth Certificates.
They will produce a copy of it but Obama will not allow it. Guess
why? DUH!! Oh, you're too stupid to realize what's going on here. He
was NOT born in Hawaii. And even if he were, there are other factors
disallowing him from having been born a natural citizen. His father
had a dual citizenship and his mother was too young.
BWWWAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!
Tim Crowley
No they don't.
hint: it says BORN IN HAWAII.
Tim Crowley
>
> nigger
I love it when they don't even try to hide it.
Thanks for speaking the truth.
hint: it's been clear for days that you're a racist pig, but it's nice
you admit it.
fargo116
> On Dec 19, 8:56 am, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "fargo116" <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e92ecfea-bfdd-4add...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 18, 9:31 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 18, 10:12 am, fargo116 <fargo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 17, 7:59 pm, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > Birthers numbers are growing astronomical
>
> > > > > That Obama should be president is problematical
>
> > > > > With his grandmaw saying she's seen
>
> > > > > In Kenya his black ass shiny and sheen
>
> > > > > The leftists' protests are every bit comical
>
> > > > Actually, it's Birthers that are mocked and dismissed every time they
> > > > make this dumbass argument.
>
> > > > S. Olson
>
> > > Show us the BIRTH CERTIFICATE, not some useless Certification of Live
> > > Birth. That proves nothing. If Obama had one, he'd produce it, but
> > > he doesn't and that's why he's ineligible to be president.
>
> > You know what? Why should I?
>
> > The state of Hawaii has verified that President Obama is a natural-
> > born citizen of the United States and had a valid birth certificate.
> > How come you don't believe the state of Hawaii and think you are much
> > more competent than it to judge what's valid and what isn't?
>
> > S. Olson
>
> > willingness to blindly believe a government institution just because "they
> > say so" shows how dysfunctional your thought processes really are. And your
> > referral to the state of Hawaii as "it" also displays your political
> > naivety. The state of Hawaii is not an 'it"; like other government
> > institutions it is a compilation of numerous human beings and thus all prone
> > to human error, biases, prejudices and all the other multitude of human
> > failings. We personally don't buy into the "birther" thing but the
> > inability and/or unwillingness of anyone inside or outside of government to
> > put the whole things to rest with the simple display of an actual birth
> > certificate just fuels the speculation. Now that's your civics lesson for
> > today sonny. You're dismissed.
>
> Thanks Cornhole but you forgot to answer the question. What makes oz
> and YOU think you are much more competent that the state of Hawaii to
> determine what's valid and what isn't? After all, the Birthers have
> NEVER won a court case on this point. NEVER.
Gee Cornhole, you got very VERY quiet.
S. Olson
oz
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> - Show quoted text -
So, if a guy doesn't want his sister to marry a "nigger," that makes
him a racist? You're just another sick SOB. To have pride in one's
race makes him a racist, does it? I suppose, in your deranged mind,
that if somebody does not like homosexul acts, that that makes him a
homophobe. Liberalism is definitely the affliction of a sick mind.
oz
You think you won a dispute by name-calling, do you? I don't dislike
Obama occupying the WH because he's black (he's only half black, but
nigger lovers choose to refer to him as black), I dislike him for his
political and economic stands. There's a number of blacks who I would
prefer and would vote for, strictly because they'd be good for the
country. America-Hating Obama is destroying this country and dolts
like you believe he's doing it good. We're sinking as a nation. He's
pissing down your back and telling you it's raining and stupid you
believe him. He's a SOCIALIST!! He legally doesn't belong there and
he will get kicked out. Tuff shit.
fargo116
Pretty much, but what REALLY makes him a racist is tossing around the
word 'nigger' in casual conversation.
You're just another sick SOB. To have pride in one's
> race makes him a racist, does it?
This is the code used by peckerwoods in the Klan constantly.
> I suppose, in your deranged mind,
> that if somebody does not like homosexul acts, that that makes him a
> homophobe. Liberalism is definitely the affliction of a sick mind.
While dressing up in a sheet in the woods and setting fire to a cross
is the height of sanity?
S. Olson
Lamont Cranston
Anybody who uses the 'n' word is a fucking low-life, redneck, inbred
racist.
Lamont Cranston
LOL! I love how you cocksucking braindead birthers simply reject facts.
It makes defending your delusions so much easier, doesn't it?
>
> Hawaii also issues those Certification of Live Births for people NOT
> born in Hawaii.
Of course, but they don't list the place of birth as Honolulu unless the
person was actually born in Honolulu, you racist piece of dog shit.
Lamont Cranston
"SOCIALIST" -- ROTFL! Not only are you a peckerwood racist, you're also
a fucking kook. You don't even know what a socialist is, you pitiful
mass of pond scum.
fargo116
wrote:
> "oz" <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote in message
It's true. These dipshits just dont get 'facists' and 'socialists'
mixed up. They don't know the difference.
S. Olson
oz
> By Bob Unruh
> © 2009 WorldNetDaily
> A briefing schedule has been announced by the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court
> of Appeals in a case alleging Congress failed in its constitutional
> duties by refusing to investigate the eligibility of Barack Obama to
> be president, according to an attorney handling the challenge.
> WND previously reported on the lawsuit filed by lead plaintiff Charles
> F. Kerchner Jr. and others against Congress.
> Attorney Mario Apuzzo filed the action in January on behalf of
> Kerchner, Lowell T. Patterson, Darrell James Lenormand and Donald H.
> Nelson Jr. Named as defendants were Barack Hussein Obama II, the U.S.,
> Congress, the Senate, House of Representatives and former Vice
> President Dick Cheney along with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
> The case focuses on the alleged failure of Congress to follow the
> Constitution. That document, the lawsuit states, "provides that
> Congress must fully qualify the candidate 'elected' by the Electoral
> College Electors."
> The case asserts "when Obama was born his father was a British subject/
> citizen and Obama himself was the same."
> The Constitution also provides, the lawsuit says, "If the president-
> elect shall have failed to qualify, then the vice president elect
> shall act as president until a president shall have qualified."
> "There existed significant public doubt and grievances from plaintiffs
> and other concerned Americans regarding Obama's eligibility to be
> president and defendants had the sworn duty to protect and preserve
> the Constitution and specifically under the 20th Amendment, Section 3,
> a Constitutional obligation to confirm whether Obama, once the
> electors elected him, was qualified," the case explained.
> Now the attorney has posted an online statement that the brief on
> behalf of the appellants is due Jan. 4, 2010.
> In an e-mail announcing the schedule, Kerchner wrote, "We look forward
> to moving ahead with this very important constitutional case along the
> legal pathway to the ultimate decision maker for this historic and
> precedence setting lawsuit, the U.S. Supreme Court."
> He continued. "They will determine the answer to the pressing legal
> question of what is a 'natural born citizen' of the USA per Article II
> constitutional standards and did Obama and the U.S. Congress violate
> the Constitution and statutory laws and my constitutional rights
> during the 2008 election cycle."
> "I say Obama does not meet the founders and framers intent for the
> Article II eligibility clause. I say Obama is a deceiver and a
> usurper," he wrote today.
> Apuzzo earlier argued in his notice of appeal that the district court
> judge "avoided" a conclusion on the merits of the case.
> "We allege that Obama has not conclusively proven that he was born in
> Hawaii. More importantly, we also allege that he is not an Article II
> 'natural born Citizen' because when Obama was born his father was a
> British subject/citizen and Obama himself was the same," he wrote.
> The lawyer said it is important that the court did not rule Obama was
> born in Hawaii, nor did it rule that the claim was frivolous.
> It simply said the case was dismissed because of a jurisdiction
> issue.
> "By the court finding that plaintiffs do not have standing and that
> their claims present a political question, the court was able to avoid
> having to address the underlying merits of the Kerchner case. With
> such a decision, the American people unfortunately still do not know
> where Obama was born and whether he is an Article II 'natural born
> Citizen' and therefore constitutionally eligible to be president and
> commander in chief," the attorney said.
> "A court cannot refuse to hear a case on the merits merely because it
> prefers not to due to grave social or political ramifications," he
> continued. "The court's opinion dismissing the Kerchner complaint/
> petition did not address the real Kerchner case but rather looked for
> a way to dismiss the case without having to reach the merits of the
> question of whether Obama is an Article II 'natural born citizen.'
> "The American people deserve to know whether Obama was in fact born in
> Hawaii. More importantly, even if he is born in Hawaii, given that he
> was born with dual allegiance and citizenship, the American people
> deserve to know whether he is an Article II 'natural born citizen'
> which would make him eligible to be president," the attorney said.
> WND reported earlier when Kerchner publicly argued the courts have an
> obligation to make a decision on Obama's eligibility.
> He wrote, "The federal courts and judges are committing treason to the
> Constitution by not taking jurisdiction and getting to the merits in
> the various cases before them regarding the Article II eligibility
> clause question for Obama."
> He said his basis for such a statement is the opinion of U.S. Supreme
> Court Chief Justice John Marshall, who wrote in an 1821 case, Cohens
> vs. Virginia:
> "It is most true that this court will not take jurisdiction if it
> should not: but it is equally true, that it must take jurisdiction if
> it should. The judiciary cannot, as the legislature may, avoid a
> measure because it approaches the confines of the constitution. We
> cannot pass it by because it is doubtful. With whatever doubts, with
> whatever difficulties, a case may be attended, we must decide it, if
> it be brought before us. We have no more right to decline the exercise
> of jurisdiction which is given, than to usurp that which is not given.
> The one or the other would be treason to the constitution. Questions
> may occur which we would gladly avoid; but we cannot avoid them. All
> we can do is, to exercise our best judgment, and conscientiously to
> perform our duty. In doing this, on the present occasion, we find this
> tribunal invested with appellate jurisdiction in all cases arising
> under the constitution and laws of the United States. We find no
> exception to this grant, and we cannot insert one."
> WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a
> "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1,
> states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the
> United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall
> be eligible to the Office of President."
> Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii,
> as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American
> mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to
> confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.
> Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his
> father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at
> the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases
> contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from
> qualifying as natural born.
> Further, others question his citizenship by virtue of his attendance
> in Indonesian schools during his childhood and question on what
> passport did he travel to Pakistan three decades ago.
> Adding fuel to the fire is Obama's persistent refusal to release
> documents that could provide answers and the appointment – at a cost
> confirmed to be at least $1.7 million – of myriad lawyers to defend
> against all requests for his documentation. While his supporters cite
> an online version of a "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii as
> his birth verification, critics point out such documents actually were
> issued for children not born in the state.
> The ultimate questions remain unaddressed to date: Is Obama a natural
> born citizen, and, if so, why hasn't documentation been provided? And,
> of course, if he is not, what does it mean to the 2008 election or the
> U.S. Constitution if it is revealed that there has been a violation?
> WND has reported on another case that was dismissed by U.S. District
> Judge David Carter in California. It also now is heading to the
> appeals level.
> WND also has reported that among the documentation not yet available
> for Obama includes his kindergarten records, Punahou school records,
> Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia
> thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles,
> scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical
> records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his
> Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records and his
> adoption records.
> Because of the dearth of information about Obama's eligibility, WND
> founder Joseph Farah has launched a campaign to raise contributions to
> post billboards asking a simple question: "Where's the birth
> certificate?"
> The campaign followed a petition that has collected more than 480,000
> signatures demanding proof of his eligibility, the availability of
> yard signs raising the question and the production of permanent,
> detachable magnetic bumper stickers asking the question.
> The "certification of live birth" posted online and widely touted as
> "Obama's birth certificate" does not in any way prove he was born in
> Hawaii, since the same "short-form" document is easily obtainable for
> children not born in Hawaii. The true "long-form" birth certificate –
> which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and
> attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was
> born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for
> public or press scrutiny.
fargo116
That screams 'Kookfart!' right there, Ozzie.
S. Olson
ChasNemo
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You're a goddamned racist, you hypocrite.
Lamont Cranston
>> By Bob Unruh
>> � 2009 WorldNetDaily
>
WingNutDaily? ROTFLMAO! Try a news source.
fargo116
wrote:
> "oz" <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote in message> >> © 2009 WorldNetDaily
>
> WingNutDaily? ROTFLMAO! Try a news source.
I'm waiting for Ozzie to cite one, Lamont.
S. Olson
oz
Quit pulling your stupid racist card, nigger.
oz
You've overused your lame race card, moron. You're no smarter than a
stupid nigger.
oz
wrote:
> "oz" <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh, we have amongst us a genuine intellectual. A nigger-loving,
pointy-headed one, at that.
oz
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hey, I'm not a racist; I'm a realist. Now go fetch yourself a brain,
Boy.
oz
Oh my, you have a lot of difficulty with facts, don't you? That's
tough shit. And, the name happens to be Ozgood, for your 411.
oz
>
> - Show quoted text -
Words cannot describe you, Nemise,, but I keep trying. Have you
caught my recent lim'ricks about you?
oz
wrote:
> "oz" <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote in message> >> © 2009 WorldNetDaily
>
> WingNutDaily? ROTFLMAO! Try a news source.
Can't handle the facts, can you? And you prolly refer to Soros.
orgasm for your ingenious inputs.
oz
You and Lamont sound like you two have been butt fucking each other,
Fargo.
Ozggood