The most anti-Obama place in the U.S.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/politics/2012/11/15/ac-tuchman-antiobama-county.cnn

-Ramon

ps: See if you can guess who voted for Obama in the wide angle shot of
the crowd. Hint: He's near the middle.

[wolfagain]

On Nov 16, 9:04 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>  http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/politics/2012/11/15/ac-tuc...

>
> -Ramon
>
> ps: See if you can guess who voted for Obama in the wide angle shot of
> the crowd. Hint: He's near the middle.

getting reports your boy is considering lowering your and your familes
Food Stamp allowances to balance the budget...might have to search
around the Barrio's for a food bank to get your daily rice and
frijoles.

[wolfagain]

On Nov 16, 9:04 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>  http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/politics/2012/11/15/ac-tuc...
>

> -Ramon
>
> ps: See if you can guess who voted for Obama in the wide angle shot of
> the crowd. Hint: He's near the middle.

If you want to see the most PRO Obama place(s) in the America just go
to any Ghetto

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Nov 16, 9:16 am, wolfagain <w...@provide.net> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 9:04 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> >  http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/politics/2012/11/15/ac-tuc...
>
> > -Ramon
>
> > ps: See if you can guess who voted for Obama in the wide angle shot of
> > the crowd. Hint: He's near the middle.
>

> getting reports your boy [...]

One can't help but wonder whether you are aware of the long-term,
irreparable, permanent damage that you are inflicting to the
Republican Party.

-Ramon

ps: By attacking the Jews (and Catholics, Blacks, etc.), you are
bringing more credence to the Hispanic cause. You provide
incontestable evidence that behind the constant attacks, there is no
rejection to the lack of proper documentation but pure, unadulterated
hatred. In your case, it reaches pathological levels.

A LOT of the usual immigrant attackers on the Internet have
psychiatric afflictions.

[Ramon F Herrera]

[In a lame attempt to justify his/her racism], on Nov 16, 9:23 am,

wolfagain <w...@provide.net> wrote:

> If you want to see the most PRO Obama place(s)
> in the America just go to any Ghetto

Intelligent people have the ability to discern when a symmetric
argument is applicable to the subject at hand.

Your attempt at symmetry above constitutes an epic ==> FAIL!

Let's see why...

In the *extreme*:

- Voting FOR a candidate is a act of LOVE.

- Voting AGAINST a candidate is an act of HATRED.

You bagger folks voted AGAINST Obama.

Q.E.D.

-Ramon The One Who Took Logic and Linguistic Courses at MIT.

[Charles Bell]

On Nov 16, 10:41 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

> ps: By attacking the Jews (and Catholics, Blacks, etc.), you are
> bringing more credence to the Hispanic cause.

Only hispanic racists have an "hispanic cause" and only occasionally
and not often enough are you racists called out on that.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Nov 16, 6:28 pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 10:41 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > ps: By attacking the Jews (and Catholics, Blacks, etc.), you are
> > bringing more credence to the Hispanic cause.
>

> Only hispanic racists have an "hispanic cause".

Nope. Wanting our share of the American Dream is the OPPOSITE of
racism.

Hatred is on your (conservative) side, in a quasi-monopolistic degree,
and it can be easily proven.

-Ramon

ps: You just insulted my 52 million amigos and then you wonder why
your party is on its way to extinction.

[Charles Bell]

On Nov 16, 8:38 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 6:28 pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 16, 10:41 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > > ps: By attacking the Jews (and Catholics, Blacks, etc.), you are
> > > bringing more credence to the Hispanic cause.
>
>  > Only hispanic racists have an "hispanic cause".
>
> Nope. Wanting our share of the American Dream is the OPPOSITE of
> racism.
>

Stealing a dream by lies and theft is not the American way, and I
might have said that an American would know that, but evidently that
is not so true.

> Hatred is on your (conservative) side, in a quasi-monopolistic degree,
> and it can be easily proven.
>

Any group that engages in race-based identity politics as do blacks
and hispanics through NAACP and La Raza, for example, or by an
"Hispanic Chamber of Commerce", as do proportionally -- or even in
absolute numbers -- very much fewer whites in various neo-nazi
groups, are by definition racists.

> ps: You just insulted my 52 million amigos and then you wonder why
> your party is on its way to extinction.

You are the one who opines that your "amigos" ought to be racists and
engage race-based identity politics.

[Charles Bell]

> Well, the Republicans counted on the Batista Cubans for many years, and a
> lot of those were the rich who fled Cuba in 1958.
>
> But the Batista Cubans are dying off, and their offspring are no longer
> reliably Republican

A Batista Cuban like Marco Rubio? Whose parents actually fled from
Batista only to be stuck in Florida when that worse bastard took over.

Good of you to point to the marvelous idea of diversity importation of
wonderful hispanic culture like religious intolerance and Caudillo
politics, not to mention awful music and literature, mañana
temperament, . . .

[Charles Bell]

On Nov 16, 8:38 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:28:42 -0800 (PST), Charles Bell

>
> <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >On Nov 16, 10:41 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> >> ps: By attacking the Jews (and Catholics, Blacks, etc.), you are
> >> bringing more credence to the Hispanic cause.
>
> >Only hispanic racists have an "hispanic cause"
>

> I'd bet you'd say that about American Indians pissed because of the
> mass slaughter and land that was stolen.

Those "American Indians" had no private property to be stolen and were
far more engaged in mass slaughter of their own kind for millennia,
preventing them from leaving the stone-age.

[Reaper G]

Europeans were killing each other for millenia, it didn't seem to hurt
them.

[Christopher Helms]

On Nov 16, 9:23 am, wolfagain <w...@provide.net> wrote:

If you guys hadn't spent the last 30 years creating as many ghettos as
you possibly could through wage stagnation, union busting,
outsourcing, NAFTA and "Free" Trade while almost violently opposing
anything that might help anyone of the non millionaire class get
ahead, maybe the GOP wouldn't be going the way of the dinosaurs
today.

[Charles Bell]

It's actually an inductive argument from the population in North
America remaining so sparse after 10,000 years or so meaning
biological failure, and absent disease decimation or ecological
disaster, both of which were factors after the arrival of the
European, perhaps, not before, there is only culture of self-
destruction widespread and unceasing. The difference between Asians/
Europeans/Middle East and Africans and Amerindians was that war for
the former in the second half of the Holocene was less clannish and
tribal (blood feud) and thus not never-ending.

[Frank]

Nope, but I saw the horseshit in the pasture. That must have been them.

[Charles Bell]

The problem is that the GOP and the Democrats are united, but for
different reasons, in the slaver mentality for the importation of as
many warm bodies with dull minds as cheap labor as possible. Ending
the guest-worker program of the post WWII era in 1965 was a deal LBJ
had with the unions because unions actually then cared about keeping
American jobs for Americans but thought of migrant labor for which
every *employer* (not the public at large) was responsible for the
health, housing and education of those workers while in the U.S., as
too pay-scale competitive. Now, Democrats and GOP, and unions for a
reason that has to do with International Socialism and not about
American workers at all, agree that all the costs of health, education
and housing of (im)migrant workers be borne by the taxpayer, even if
the GOP concedes that those workers should go back when their work is
done.

[Harold Burton]

In article
<6b423e0a-e9db-4e62...@4g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,

Christopher Helms <chris...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 16, 9:23 am, wolfagain <w...@provide.net> wrote:
> > On Nov 16, 9:04 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> >
> > >  http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/politics/2012/11/15/ac-tuc...
> >
> > > -Ramon
> >
> > > ps: See if you can guess who voted for Obama in the wide angle shot of
> > > the crowd. Hint: He's near the middle.
> >
> > If you want to see the most PRO Obama place(s) in the America just go
> > to any Ghetto
>
>
> If you guys hadn't spent the last 30 years creating as many ghettos as
> you possibly could through wage stagnation, union busting,

> outsourcing, NAFTA and "Free" Trade . . .

Would you like some cheese with that whine?



snicker

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Nov 17, 6:25 am, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Any group that engages in race-based identity politics
> as do blacks and hispanics through NAACP and La Raza,
> for example, or by an "Hispanic Chamber of Commerce"

It is good to underscore the fact that the position on immigration of:

- The Regular US Chamber of Commerce

- The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce

are almost identical. The ONLY difference is that while the US Chamber
of Commerce

IS THE MAIN FORCE BEHIND A PATH TO LEGALIZATION AND CITIZENSHIP

The US Hispanic Chamber of Commerce abstains from issuing any position
(even though we all know what it is, it is a duh! kind of deal).

Mr. Bell here is obviously confused and distraught by the fact that
EVERY single company in the US and EVERY single church AND the US
military, are in complete unanimity of the side opposite his on
immigration. That makes him:

- The communist
- The racist
- The traitor

and that makes me:

- The Capitalist
- The Tolerant
- The Patriot.

-Ramon

ps: The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce is open to all US companies, or
you were under the impression that the Waltons and the Fords, Bill
Gates, Steve Jobs and the Google Boys are Latinos???

https://www.ushcc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Page.viewPage&pageId=513&parentID=558

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <6b423e0a-e9db-4e62...@4g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
Christopher Helms <chris...@gmail.com> wrote:

...

>If you guys hadn't spent the last 30 years creating as many ghettos as
>you possibly could through wage stagnation, union busting,
>outsourcing, NAFTA and "Free" Trade while almost violently opposing
>anything that might help anyone of the non millionaire class get
>ahead, maybe the GOP wouldn't be going the way of the dinosaurs
>today.

Ain't that the truth!

Of course, all the loonies will be denying what you say, and coming up with
lunatic explanations about how the GOP is really the party of the people and
other crappola, but we know better.

--
Those on the right constantly remind us that America is not a
democracy; now they claim that Obama is a threat to democracy.

[Gunner]

>Considering the results of the election, I'd say that America was pro
>Obama.

Well...considering the results of the election, Id have to say
Democrats were pro voter fraud.

Wouldnt you?

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

[Gunner]

Mass slaughter? Hardly so.

Prove your case and then Ill show you to be wrong.

[Gunner]

Odd that you would lie so broadly. See my sig. It describes you
perfectly.

[Gunner]

On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 10:11:06 -0800 (PST), Charles Bell
<cbe...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>On Nov 17, 12:22锟絧m, Christopher Helms <chrishel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 16, 9:23锟絘m, wolfagain <w...@provide.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 16, 9:04锟絘m, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > 锟絟ttp://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/politics/2012/11/15/ac-tuc...

Libertarian arent you?

Stay off the dope so much. You make Leftwingers look smart when you
post.

[Charles Bell]

On Nov 18, 2:14 am, Gunner <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 10:11:06 -0800 (PST), Charles Bell
>
>
>
>
>

> <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >On Nov 17, 12:22 pm, Christopher  Helms <chrishel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 16, 9:23 am, wolfagain <w...@provide.net> wrote:
>
> >> > On Nov 16, 9:04 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> >> > >http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/politics/2012/11/15/ac-tuc...

Are you nuts? Libertarians are most often for open borders. They
have that slaver mentality because (they allege) it allows for
consumer goods to be cheaper like the goods coming from that huge
slave plantation that is China.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/09/arizona_immigration_laws_and_j.php

http://www.cato.org/immigration


Milton Friedman even justifed the concept of indentured servitude as a
valid libertarian principle -- which, by the way, was the door
through which slavery came to North America.

[Charles Bell]

On Nov 18, 2:12 am, Gunner <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:36:11 -0800 (PST), Charles Bell
>
>
>
>
>

> <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >On Nov 16, 8:38 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:28:42 -0800 (PST), Charles Bell
>
> >> <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 16, 10:41 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> ps: By attacking the Jews (and Catholics, Blacks, etc.), you are
> >> >> bringing more credence to the Hispanic cause.
>
> >> >Only hispanic racists have an "hispanic cause"
>
> >> I'd bet you'd say that about American Indians pissed because of the
> >> mass slaughter and land that was stolen.
>
> >Those "American Indians" had no private property to be stolen and were
> >far more engaged in mass slaughter of their own kind for millennia,
> >preventing them from leaving the stone-age.
>
> Mass slaughter? Hardly so.
>
> Prove your case and then Ill show you to be wrong.
>

Learn to read who said what before posting. I denied any disparity of
killing of Amerindians by non-hispanic Europeans and the killing of
non-hispanic Europeans by Amerindians and most of all the killing of
Amerindians by Amerindians.

[Charles Bell]

On Nov 17, 1:20 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> On Nov 17, 6:25 am, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>  > Any group that engages in race-based identity politics
>  > as do blacks and hispanics through NAACP and La Raza,
>  > for example, or by an "Hispanic Chamber of Commerce"
>
> It is good to underscore the fact that the position on immigration of:
>
>  - The Regular US Chamber of Commerce
>
>  - The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
>

Until you can explain -- without the usual academic double-talk on how
only (anglo) whites can be racists -- how any separation of
organizations like this is not racist, then you are a racist.

The fact these two agree on open borders to reduce labor costs does
not explain why hispanics would have an "hispanic cause" in your words
that implies a cause which might different than a purported (anglo)
white cause.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Nov 18, 5:46 pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 17, 1:20 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 17, 6:25 am, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >  > Any group that engages in race-based identity politics
> >  > as do blacks and hispanics through NAACP and La Raza,
> >  > for example, or by an "Hispanic Chamber of Commerce"
>
> > It is good to underscore the fact that the position on immigration of:
>
> >  - The Regular US Chamber of Commerce
>
> >  - The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
>

> Until you can explain -- without the usual academic double-talk
> on how only (anglo) whites can be racists -- how any separation of
> organizations like this is not racist, then you are a racist.

Mr. Bell:

We need to set up some basic understanding here. Your rejection of
organizations and initiatives like the Black, Asian and Hispanic
Caucuses, NCLR, the Privates DREAM Act (by Mrs. Steve Jobs), the US
Hispanic Chamber of Commerce has:

- Moral
- Ethical
- Legal
- Whining
- Jealous

basis?

IOW: Should they be banned? Subject to disdain?

-Ramon

ps: Muchas gracias for your generous contribution -in form of taxes-
to La Raza!! We are using your money to educate and prepare young
people so they can assume their professional, economic and political
roles (most likely Democrat voters, I am afraid, due to YOUR hateful
rhetoric and actions).

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Nov 18, 5:46 pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 17, 1:20 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 17, 6:25 am, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >  > Any group that engages in race-based identity politics
> >  > as do blacks and hispanics through NAACP and La Raza,
> >  > for example, or by an "Hispanic Chamber of Commerce"
>
> > It is good to underscore the fact that the position on immigration of:
>
> >  - The Regular US Chamber of Commerce
>
> >  - The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
>

> Until you can explain -- without the usual academic double-talk

> on how only (anglo) whites can be racists.

Never said that in my life. When it comes to hatred (who has it and
who doesn't) my guiding reference is nationwide respected: SPLC.

Check out some of the Hate Groups listed by MY SPLC:

- The New Panthers
- Fundamentalist Jewish
- Fundamentalist Mormons
- Black Separatists

Last but not least:

- O-N-E (solo uno) Hate Group composed by Latinos: some Aztlan
Reconquista locos wackos, located in (where else!), California. They
don't have support even in their own households.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

Better than 90% of hate groups are on YOUR side. 1 in 1,000 is Latino.

-Ramon
Proud Member of the US Chamber of Commerce (regular and Hispanic)
So quit calling me commie, will ya'?
100% Supporter of the position on immigration being
lobbied and led by The US Chamber of Commerce

ps: Please keep on throwing crap to Corporate America, to Free
Enterprise, to successful people and organizations. That's what you
pinkos enjoy the most.

pps: We are waiting for your response to: "What would you do about the
Hispanic Caucus and Chamber of Commerce if you had any power?"

[Charles Bell]

On Nov 18, 6:56 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 5:46 pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 17, 1:20 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 17, 6:25 am, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > >  > Any group that engages in race-based identity politics
> > >  > as do blacks and hispanics through NAACP and La Raza,
> > >  > for example, or by an "Hispanic Chamber of Commerce"
>
> > > It is good to underscore the fact that the position on immigration of:
>
> > >  - The Regular US Chamber of Commerce
>
> > >  - The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
>
>  > Until you can explain -- without the usual academic double-talk
>  > on how only (anglo) whites can be racists -- how any separation of
>  > organizations like this is not racist, then you are a racist.
>
> Mr. Bell:
>
> We need to set up some basic understanding here. Your rejection of

Until and unless you can provide a justification that is not racist
for a separate (but equal?) organization such as a Chamber of Commerce
along racial-ethnic lines, you are racist.

[Charles Bell]

On Nov 18, 7:11 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 5:46 pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 17, 1:20 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 17, 6:25 am, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > >  > Any group that engages in race-based identity politics
> > >  > as do blacks and hispanics through NAACP and La Raza,
> > >  > for example, or by an "Hispanic Chamber of Commerce"
>
> > > It is good to underscore the fact that the position on immigration of:
>
> > >  - The Regular US Chamber of Commerce
>
> > >  - The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
>
>  > Until you can explain -- without the usual academic double-talk
>  > on how only (anglo) whites can be racists.
>
> Never said that in my life.

[Gunner]

Indeed. Ramon IS and HAS proven himself to be one of the most racist
people on Usenet Ive ever seen. And that includes the white trash
Klanner types the troll the groups on occasion.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

The US Hispanic Chamber of Commerce is open to all. There is no racial
or any kind of discrimination. Same with NCLR, NOW, etc.

We are waiting for your response to: "What would you do about the
Hispanic Caucus and Chamber of Commerce if you had any power?"

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

If I am such a liar, how come you are the one who cannot find ONE
church, ONE business or ONE military which is willing to support your
side on immigration, Gunner?

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

You just called the US Marine Corps and the US Army racists! They are
both proud supporters of the National Council of La Raza.

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Nov 18, 7:03 pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 7:11 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 18, 5:46 pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 17, 1:20 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 17, 6:25 am, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > >  > Any group that engages in race-based identity politics
> > > >  > as do blacks and hispanics through NAACP and La Raza,
> > > >  > for example, or by an "Hispanic Chamber of Commerce"
>
> > > > It is good to underscore the fact that the position on immigration of:
>
> > > >  - The Regular US Chamber of Commerce
>
> > > >  - The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
>
> >  > Until you can explain -- without the usual academic double-talk
> >  > on how only (anglo) whites can be racists.
>
> > Never said that in my life.
>

> Until and unless you can provide a justification that is not racist

Hispanic or Latino is not a race. People of all races are Latinos and
Hispanics.

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Far conservative folks have choice names for our most trusted
institutions. This is what they are calling them these days:

- US Chamber of Commerce and businesses: "Communists! Socialists!"

- All US Religious Denominations and Churches: "Racists! Haters!"

- The US Military: "Traitors!"

What have they done to deserve such awful epithets?

Simple: The 3 groups above support a Path to Legalization and the
Hispanic Cause, in unanimity.

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Nov 19, 12:21 am, Gunner <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:03:00 -0800 (PST), Charles Bell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >On Nov 18, 7:11 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> >> On Nov 18, 5:46 pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >> > On Nov 17, 1:20 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Nov 17, 6:25 am, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >> > >  > Any group that engages in race-based identity politics
> >> > >  > as do blacks and hispanics through NAACP and La Raza,
> >> > >  > for example, or by an "Hispanic Chamber of Commerce"
>
> >> > > It is good to underscore the fact that the position on immigration of:
>
> >> > >  - The Regular US Chamber of Commerce
>
> >> > >  - The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
>
> >>  > Until you can explain -- without the usual academic double-talk
> >>  > on how only (anglo) whites can be racists.
>
> >> Never said that in my life.
>
> >Until and unless you can provide a justification that is not racist
> >for a separate (but equal?) organization such as a Chamber of Commerce
> >along racial-ethnic lines, you are racist.
>

> Indeed. Ramon IS and HAS proven himself to be one of

> the most racist people on Usenet I've ever seen.

I, Ramon F. Herrera, hereby publicly declare my respect and L-O-V-E
for all human beings. People of ALL RACES are welcome to emigrate to
America (legally, of course). People of all races and sexual
orientations have equal dignity and deserve our respect, under the
teachings of all religions (for those who are religious out there).

I am specially proud of MY RACE, the White Race (not of every act of
course, duh!), the most successful in history, warts and all.

America's First Principle is "All Men Are Created Equal" - Let us not
humiliate America by forgetting such self-evident truth.

-Signed: Ramón Fernando Herrera González

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How come along the years, NOT ONE conservative has ever joined me in
the Declaration above???

Why don't you detractors write your own declaration, and all forum
participants can approve it and sign it???

Gunner: I have been waiting for about EIGHT years for you or one of
your fellow Conservatives to either agree with me on the above, or
write your own statement of beliefs.

The last one of you (who claimed he was not racist, but Ramon was) to
whom made this offer, posted something in German: It turned out to be
the Nazi Oath of Allegiance.

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

I, Ramon F. Herrera, hereby publicly declare my respect and L-O-V-E
for all human beings. People of ALL RACES are welcome to emigrate to
America (legally, of course). People of all races and sexual
orientations have equal dignity and deserve our respect, under the
teachings of all religions (for those who are religious out there).

I am specially proud of MY RACE, the White Race (not of every act of
course, duh!), the most successful in history, warts and all.

America's First Principle is "All Men Are Created Equal" - Let us not
humiliate America by forgetting such self-evident truth.

-Signed: Ramón Fernando Herrera González

-------------------------------------------------

Charles: How come along the years, NOT ONE conservative has ever

joined me in the Declaration above???

Why don't you detractors write your own declaration, and all forum
participants can approve it and sign it???

Mr. Bell, I have been waiting for about EIGHT years for you or one of

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Mr. Bell,

I have been replying and providing a proper answer to EVERY question
you have made. Additionally, feel free to ask away. You may assume
that I am a genuine representative of the National Council of La Raza
(*).

You, OTOH, are not answering any of my questions.

-Ramon F Herrera
Champion of Latinos and All Minorities in Internet

(*) I am as close as you are going to get in an Internet forum.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

How about the Women's Caucus? Do you approve of it?

Here's one much closer to race and ethnicity: The Jewish Caucus.

Please state for position about those two.

-Ramon

[Charles Bell]

On Nov 19, 2:13 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 7:03 pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 18, 7:11 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 18, 5:46 pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 17, 1:20 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Nov 17, 6:25 am, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > >  > Any group that engages in race-based identity politics
> > > > >  > as do blacks and hispanics through NAACP and La Raza,
> > > > >  > for example, or by an "Hispanic Chamber of Commerce"
>
> > > > > It is good to underscore the fact that the position on immigration of:
>
> > > > >  - The Regular US Chamber of Commerce
>
> > > > >  - The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
>
> > >  > Until you can explain -- without the usual academic double-talk
> > >  > on how only (anglo) whites can be racists.
>
> > > Never said that in my life.
>
> > Until and unless you can provide a justification that is not racist
> > for a separate (but equal?) organization such as a Chamber of Commerce
> > along racial-ethnic lines, you are racist.
>
> The US Hispanic Chamber of Commerce is open to all.

Really? The ratio of non-hispanic members is commensurate with the
population just like the ratio of non-black NBA players is
commensurate with the population of non-blacks?

[duke]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:00:27 -0700, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 23:11:40 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:

>
>>On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:36:11 -0800 (PST), Charles Bell
>><cbe...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Nov 16, 8:38 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:28:42 -0800 (PST), Charles Bell
>>>>
>>>> <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> >On Nov 16, 10:41 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> ps: By attacking the Jews (and Catholics, Blacks, etc.), you are
>>>> >> bringing more credence to the Hispanic cause.
>>>>
>>>> >Only hispanic racists have an "hispanic cause"
>>>>
>>>> I'd bet you'd say that about American Indians pissed because of the
>>>> mass slaughter and land that was stolen.
>>>
>>>Those "American Indians" had no private property to be stolen and were
>>>far more engaged in mass slaughter of their own kind for millennia,
>>>preventing them from leaving the stone-age.
>>
>>Mass slaughter? Hardly so.
>>
>>Prove your case and then Ill show you to be wrong.
>

>Prove the hair on your hand isn't worn off by your monkey-spanking,
>CUNTER.

Yoogie, the experienced commenting.

The dukester, American - American
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You can't fix stupid.
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[Gunner]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:45:32 -0700, L...@Sig.net wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:20:45 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:

>
>>Indeed. Ramon IS and HAS proven himself to be one of the most racist
>>people on Usenet Ive ever seen
>

>Well, that's funny
>
>What you're able to see peering out of the nearest rightwing gunloon's
>asshole is pretty limited.
>
>Looking over that fucking hovel you live in (junkyard) and laughing at
>you in mock sniper gear and camoflage----you're a typical net-loon.
>
>SNICKER

The opinion of a mentally ill leftwing fringe kook is noted and
disregarded with boredom.