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MattB.
Apr 25, 2012, 9:07:08 PM4/25/12
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Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
fix the economy
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/25/fox-news-poll-obama-and-romney-tied-but-majority-voters-say-neither-has-plan-to/
The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
economy.
The national poll, released Wednesday, finds President Obama and
presumptive Republican nominee Romney each at 46 percent, if the
election were held today.
.....
Independents give the advantage to Romney by 13 points. Two weeks ago
he had a six-point edge with independents, while in March independents
split evenly between the candidates.
fix the economy
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/25/fox-news-poll-obama-and-romney-tied-but-majority-voters-say-neither-has-plan-to/
The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
economy.
The national poll, released Wednesday, finds President Obama and
presumptive Republican nominee Romney each at 46 percent, if the
election were held today.
.....
Independents give the advantage to Romney by 13 points. Two weeks ago
he had a six-point edge with independents, while in March independents
split evenly between the candidates.
Matt
Apr 25, 2012, 9:11:50 PM4/25/12
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On Apr 25, 7:07 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
> fix the economy
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/25/fox-news-poll-obama-and-ro...
> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
> fix the economy
>
>
> The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
> dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
> American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
> economy.
>
> The national poll, released Wednesday, finds President Obama and
> presumptive Republican nominee Romney each at 46 percent, if the
> election were held today.
I like realclearpolitics.com, they present all of the polls, including
> The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
> dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
> American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
> economy.
>
> The national poll, released Wednesday, finds President Obama and
> presumptive Republican nominee Romney each at 46 percent, if the
> election were held today.
Fox and
Rasmussen, and give you a pretty good idea of where everything stands.
They
also post intrade odds.
So, the overall numbers are:
Obama +3.5
That means, for all polls averaged, President Obama is about 3.5
points ahead.
Intrade shows:
Obama 60.1
Romney 38.3
People don't seem to give a lot for Romeny's chances.
Matt
MattB
Apr 25, 2012, 10:00:54 PM4/25/12
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week.
I still think the Independents will pick this election.
Polls show Obama with a slight lead or ties for the most part.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Independents and Moderates will pick the next President.
Let the mud slinging commence.
Lamont Cranston
Apr 25, 2012, 10:00:26 PM4/25/12
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On 4/25/2012 6:07 PM, MattB. wrote:
> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
> fix the economy
They aren't tied, little camper, but please continue to believe that.
> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
> fix the economy
MattB
Apr 25, 2012, 10:08:15 PM4/25/12
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The independents will choose as they see fit.
Then again not ahead by much and the true race hasn't even started.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
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MattB
Apr 26, 2012, 12:43:53 AM4/26/12
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:27:43 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:07:08 -0700, MattB.
><trdel...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>
>>Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
>>fix the economy
>
>Of course that's nonsense
>
>The problem is the one who does is being sabotaged by the ones who
>ruined it.
Well so far haven't seen this great plan you have. Rhetoric and
finger pointing yes. Where is it?
We need both a tax increase or to at least let the temporary measures
expire and we need to cut spending and eliminate waste in Government.
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:07:08 -0700, MattB.
><trdel...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>
>>Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
>>fix the economy
>
>
>The problem is the one who does is being sabotaged by the ones who
>ruined it.
Well so far haven't seen this great plan you have. Rhetoric and
finger pointing yes. Where is it?
We need both a tax increase or to at least let the temporary measures
expire and we need to cut spending and eliminate waste in Government.
Vandar
Apr 26, 2012, 12:44:02 AM4/26/12
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MattB. wrote:
> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
> fix the economy
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/25/fox-news-poll-obama-and-romney-tied-but-majority-voters-say-neither-has-plan-to/
>
> The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
> dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
> American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
> economy.
http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/64190325
> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
> fix the economy
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/25/fox-news-poll-obama-and-romney-tied-but-majority-voters-say-neither-has-plan-to/
>
> The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
> dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
> American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
> economy.
Phlip
Apr 26, 2012, 1:50:59 AM4/26/12
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On Apr 25, 6:07 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
> fix the economy
And yet taxing the extreme rich polls very well...
> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
> fix the economy
That's the thing about the cesspool of propaganda America has become.
Because it's "cool to hate Obama", he will poll poorly. But when you
poll on specific line items (better health insurance, out of Iraq, GM
recovering, etc.) they come up positive.
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Vandar
Apr 26, 2012, 11:00:33 AM4/26/12
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Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:44:02 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
>>>dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
>>>American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
>>>economy.
>
>
> Sure there is
>
> Republicans say continuing the BUsh policies is the way, including
> presently passing MORE tax cuts for the top 10%
Try readin Romney's plan, truther.
> Democrats say getting past Republican obstruction will eventually
> solve our problem
They are lying.
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:44:02 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
>>>dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
>>>American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
>>>economy.
>
>
>
> Republicans say continuing the BUsh policies is the way, including
> presently passing MORE tax cuts for the top 10%
Try readin Romney's plan, truther.
> Democrats say getting past Republican obstruction will eventually
> solve our problem
They are lying.
wy
Apr 26, 2012, 11:19:50 AM4/26/12
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On Apr 26, 11:00 am, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
his own plan, like when he originally proposed "a 35% tax rate on top-
earning Americans. But in a debate last week, he suggested he would
lower the top rate to 25% or even 20% when asked to identify the
highest rate any American should pay. More than 25%, I think, is
taking too much out of our pockets," Romney said."
Mr. Etch-a-Sketch strikes again.
His plan delivers no specifics as to how he'll reduce spending, only
unsupportable vague generalities. He says nothing about what he would
do about housing, which is one of the main drivers of the economy. He
provides no clue as to how to increase employment and exactly how
he'll reduce federal spending from 24% to 20% of GDP without cutting
50% of defense or cutting to the bone and maybe cutting a limb or two
of everything else remains completely unexplained. It's a wishful
thinking plan for desperately wishful thinking right wingnuts like
you.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/25/news/economy/romney_economic_plan/index.htm
Do feel free to fill in all the missing blanks in the vague
generalities.
>
> > Democrats say getting past Republican obstruction will eventually
> > solve our problem
>
> They are lying.
Well, things were moving along at a rapid-fire pace in 2009 and 2010,
resulting in one of the most productive Congressional terms ever,
unlike the current one which has become the least productive ever.
> Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:44:02 -0400, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
> >>>dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
> >>>American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
> >>>economy.
>
> > Sure there is
>
> > Republicans say continuing the BUsh policies is the way, including
> > presently passing MORE tax cuts for the top 10%
>
> Try readin Romney's plan, truther.
Yeah, it's pretty vague at best and even Romney can't keep track of
>
> >>>The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
> >>>dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
> >>>American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
> >>>economy.
>
> > Sure there is
>
> > Republicans say continuing the BUsh policies is the way, including
> > presently passing MORE tax cuts for the top 10%
>
> Try readin Romney's plan, truther.
his own plan, like when he originally proposed "a 35% tax rate on top-
earning Americans. But in a debate last week, he suggested he would
lower the top rate to 25% or even 20% when asked to identify the
highest rate any American should pay. More than 25%, I think, is
taking too much out of our pockets," Romney said."
Mr. Etch-a-Sketch strikes again.
His plan delivers no specifics as to how he'll reduce spending, only
unsupportable vague generalities. He says nothing about what he would
do about housing, which is one of the main drivers of the economy. He
provides no clue as to how to increase employment and exactly how
he'll reduce federal spending from 24% to 20% of GDP without cutting
50% of defense or cutting to the bone and maybe cutting a limb or two
of everything else remains completely unexplained. It's a wishful
thinking plan for desperately wishful thinking right wingnuts like
you.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/25/news/economy/romney_economic_plan/index.htm
Do feel free to fill in all the missing blanks in the vague
generalities.
>
> > Democrats say getting past Republican obstruction will eventually
> > solve our problem
>
> They are lying.
resulting in one of the most productive Congressional terms ever,
unlike the current one which has become the least productive ever.
Gary DW
Apr 26, 2012, 11:41:11 AM4/26/12
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In article <jnbnun$i9b$2...@news.albasani.net>, Vandar
says...
>
> Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:44:02 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
> >>>dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
> >>>American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
> >>>economy.
> >
> >
> > Sure there is
> >
> > Republicans say continuing the BUsh policies is the way, including
> > presently passing MORE tax cuts for the top 10%
>
> Try readin Romney's plan, truther.
His plan does give the rich bigger tax cuts.
JFC, he doesn't even try to hide it.
>
> > Democrats say getting past Republican obstruction will eventually
> > solve our problem
>
> They are lying.
--
"Job creators" are not the wealthy, nor have they ever
been.
Its a robust MIDDLE CLASS having extra money to spend is
what creates jobs.
This should be the main Dem message... Nothing else.
-Gary
says...
>
> Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:44:02 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
> >>>dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
> >>>American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
> >>>economy.
> >
> >
> > Sure there is
> >
> > Republicans say continuing the BUsh policies is the way, including
> > presently passing MORE tax cuts for the top 10%
>
> Try readin Romney's plan, truther.
JFC, he doesn't even try to hide it.
>
> > Democrats say getting past Republican obstruction will eventually
> > solve our problem
>
> They are lying.
"Job creators" are not the wealthy, nor have they ever
been.
Its a robust MIDDLE CLASS having extra money to spend is
what creates jobs.
This should be the main Dem message... Nothing else.
-Gary
Gary DW
Apr 26, 2012, 11:44:32 AM4/26/12
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> Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:44:02 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
> >>>dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
> >>>American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
> >>>economy.
> >
> >
> > Sure there is
> >
> > Republicans say continuing the BUsh policies is the way, including
> > presently passing MORE tax cuts for the top 10%
>
> Try readin Romney's plan, truther.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57389459-
>
> > On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:44:02 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>The race between Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney is
> >>>dead even in a new Fox News poll that also shows majorities of
> >>>American voters say neither candidate has a plan for fixing the
> >>>economy.
> >
> >
> > Sure there is
> >
> > Republicans say continuing the BUsh policies is the way, including
> > presently passing MORE tax cuts for the top 10%
>
> Try readin Romney's plan, truther.
503544/analysis-romney-tax-plan-strongly-favors-the-
rich/
>
> > Democrats say getting past Republican obstruction will eventually
> > solve our problem
>
> They are lying.
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Eddie Haskell
Apr 26, 2012, 2:03:20 PM4/26/12
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"Phlip" <phli...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1d35753d-9140-496b...@9g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 25, 6:07 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
> fix the economy
> And yet taxing the extreme rich polls very well...
Yeah? What do the polls say about raising the capital gains rate,
> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
> fix the economy
> And yet taxing the extreme rich polls very well...
discouraging investment, and lowering revenues?
Oh, that's right. You class warfare cocksuckers and your suck buddies in the
MSM didn't tell them about that, did you, motherfucker?
Class warfare for votes and fuck the country. Tell the public that and see
what your goddamned poll says.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jr3Ceu894
> That's the thing about the cesspool of propaganda America has become.
> Because it's "cool to hate Obama", he will poll poorly. But when you
> poll on specific line items (better health insurance
> , out of Iraq, GM
> recovering, etc.) they come up positive.
holders and basically handing the company over to the unions that broke it
in the first and will again, you fascist fuck? Oh, that's right. You fascist
fucks didn't tell them about that, did you?
Now you're in here crowing about polls that prove how successfully you've
managed to brain fuck the public in a democracy where most people don't have
a clue what the fuck is going on.
Congratu-fucking-lations.
-Eddie Haskell
2966 Dead
Apr 26, 2012, 3:32:02 PM4/26/12
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:03:20 -0500, Eddie Haskell wrote:
> "Phlip" <phli...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1d35753d-9140-496b...@9g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 25, 6:07 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>
>> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
>> fix the economy
>
>> And yet taxing the extreme rich polls very well...
>
> Yeah? What do the polls say about raising the capital gains rate,
> discouraging investment, and lowering revenues?
Since the first doesn't cause the second two, it doesn't matter.
> "Phlip" <phli...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1d35753d-9140-496b...@9g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 25, 6:07 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>
>> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
>> fix the economy
>
>> And yet taxing the extreme rich polls very well...
>
> Yeah? What do the polls say about raising the capital gains rate,
> discouraging investment, and lowering revenues?
But a huge majority of voters want to see the cap gains tax raised, with
incentives for domestic investment. THEN you would see a jump in
investment and revenues!
>
> Oh, that's right. You class warfare cocksuckers and your suck buddies in
> the MSM didn't tell them about that, did you, motherfucker?
>
Poor Eddie. Screaming hysterically and incoherently, and you don't even
> Oh, that's right. You class warfare cocksuckers and your suck buddies in
> the MSM didn't tell them about that, did you, motherfucker?
>
know why, do you?
> Class warfare for votes and fuck the country. Tell the public that and
> see what your goddamned poll says.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jr3Ceu894
>
>> That's the thing about the cesspool of propaganda America has become.
>
> Goddamned right about that. Congratulations, you fascist motherfucker.
>
>> Because it's "cool to hate Obama", he will poll poorly. But when you
>> poll on specific line items (better health insurance
>
> Husseincare? Better? What a goddamned lie.
>
>> , out of Iraq, GM
>> recovering, etc.) they come up positive.
>
> Yeah? What do the polls say about bailing GM out and screwing the share
> holders and basically handing the company over to the unions that broke
> it in the first and will again, you fascist fuck? Oh, that's right. You
> fascist fucks didn't tell them about that, did you?
>
> Now you're in here crowing about polls that prove how successfully
> you've managed to brain fuck the public in a democracy where most people
> don't have a clue what the fuck is going on.
>
> Congratu-fucking-lations.
>
> -Eddie Haskell
--
> see what your goddamned poll says.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jr3Ceu894
>
>> That's the thing about the cesspool of propaganda America has become.
>
> Goddamned right about that. Congratulations, you fascist motherfucker.
>
>> Because it's "cool to hate Obama", he will poll poorly. But when you
>> poll on specific line items (better health insurance
>
> Husseincare? Better? What a goddamned lie.
>
>> , out of Iraq, GM
>> recovering, etc.) they come up positive.
>
> Yeah? What do the polls say about bailing GM out and screwing the share
> holders and basically handing the company over to the unions that broke
> it in the first and will again, you fascist fuck? Oh, that's right. You
> fascist fucks didn't tell them about that, did you?
>
> Now you're in here crowing about polls that prove how successfully
> you've managed to brain fuck the public in a democracy where most people
> don't have a clue what the fuck is going on.
>
> Congratu-fucking-lations.
>
> -Eddie Haskell
"You'll notice that I WON'T disavow Nugent." -- Fake Bill, because when
you're in the GOP, you just can't get enough violent pedos
--
"You'll notice that I WON'T disavow Nugent." -- Fake Bill, because when
you're in the GOP, you just can't get enough violent pedos
Steve
Apr 26, 2012, 4:44:17 PM4/26/12
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:32:02 +0000 (UTC), 2966 Dead <de...@gone.com>
wrote:
>But a huge majority of voters want to see the cap gains tax raised,
<Chuckle> Raising taxes on others so that they can have a bigger
welfare check is very popular among parasitic losers, most of whom,
like Zepp, pay no income tax at all.
wrote:
>But a huge majority of voters want to see the cap gains tax raised,
welfare check is very popular among parasitic losers, most of whom,
like Zepp, pay no income tax at all.
Eddie Haskell
Apr 26, 2012, 10:57:01 PM4/26/12
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"2966 Dead" <de...@gone.com> wrote in message
news:jnc7ri$sjk$2...@dont-email.me...
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:03:20 -0500, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>
>> "Phlip" <phli...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1d35753d-9140-496b...@9g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 25, 6:07 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>>
>>> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
>>> fix the economy
>>
>>> And yet taxing the extreme rich polls very well...
>>
>> Yeah? What do the polls say about raising the capital gains rate,
>> discouraging investment, and lowering revenues?
>
> Since the first doesn't cause the second two, it doesn't matter.
You can stop right there at your first shameless lie born out of low IQ
>
>> "Phlip" <phli...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1d35753d-9140-496b...@9g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 25, 6:07 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>>
>>> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
>>> fix the economy
>>
>>> And yet taxing the extreme rich polls very well...
>>
>> Yeah? What do the polls say about raising the capital gains rate,
>> discouraging investment, and lowering revenues?
>
> Since the first doesn't cause the second two, it doesn't matter.
racist hatred and answer the charge:
Why do you want to raise the capital gains rate and lower your holey grail
of revenues to the government?
Answer: "Farness."
-> Class warfare. <-
You lose again. Now, when are you going to get here and mow my lawn?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jr3Ceu894
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Apr 26, 2012, 10:59:48 PM4/26/12
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"Steve" <steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote in message
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the income tax and the capital gains rate and their affects on the economy
and revenues.
Just the way the DNC / MSM cabal wants it.
-Eddie Haskell
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Gary DW
Apr 27, 2012, 12:09:52 PM4/27/12
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In article <6c63fb45-283b-4a84-8a23-8eab75a432e9
@n5g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>, wy says...
It appears Vandar was hoping none of us would ACTUALLY
read Romneys plan... much like he hadn't.
Fox News must have forgotten to tell him that it cuts
taxes on the rich.
>
>
> >
> > > Democrats say getting past Republican obstruction will eventually
> > > solve our problem
> >
> > They are lying.
>
> Well, things were moving along at a rapid-fire pace in 2009 and 2010,
> resulting in one of the most productive Congressional terms ever,
> unlike the current one which has become the least productive ever.
@n5g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>, wy says...
read Romneys plan... much like he hadn't.
Fox News must have forgotten to tell him that it cuts
taxes on the rich.
>
>
> >
> > > Democrats say getting past Republican obstruction will eventually
> > > solve our problem
> >
> > They are lying.
>
> Well, things were moving along at a rapid-fire pace in 2009 and 2010,
> resulting in one of the most productive Congressional terms ever,
> unlike the current one which has become the least productive ever.
Eddie Haskell
Apr 27, 2012, 1:29:32 PM4/27/12
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> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:03:20 -0500, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>
>> "Phlip" <phli...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1d35753d-9140-496b...@9g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 25, 6:07 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>>
>>> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
>>> fix the economy
>>
>>> And yet taxing the extreme rich polls very well...
>>
>> Yeah? What do the polls say about raising the capital gains rate,
>> discouraging investment, and lowering revenues?
>
> Since the first doesn't cause the second two, it doesn't matter.
>
> But a huge majority of voters want to see the cap gains tax raised,
Most voters don't even know that Hussein is talking about the capital gains
>
>> "Phlip" <phli...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1d35753d-9140-496b...@9g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 25, 6:07 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>>
>>> Obama and Romney tied, but majority of voters say neither has plan to
>>> fix the economy
>>
>>> And yet taxing the extreme rich polls very well...
>>
>> Yeah? What do the polls say about raising the capital gains rate,
>> discouraging investment, and lowering revenues?
>
> Since the first doesn't cause the second two, it doesn't matter.
>
> But a huge majority of voters want to see the cap gains tax raised,
rate, much less know that raising it will reduce revenues. That's because
the MSM / DNC cabal wants the public brain fucked, and they are.
Meanwhile the country is going down the shitter thanks to it and YOU are
going to go down right along with it. Something you dumbfucks just can't
seem to get through your fucking heads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jr3Ceu894
> with
> incentives for domestic investment.
> THEN you would see a jump in
> investment and revenues!
warfare aimed at you idiot base?
Lying dumbfucks.
Pay No Attention To 2966 Dead, He's a Vile Low IQ Racist And All Around
Immoral Low-Life
"Well, he [Zimmerman] just shot and killed a kid for no reason at all."
-2915 Dead, Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:59 PM
"Oh, I think he [Zimmerman] should be convicted of manslaughter."
-2960 Dead, Saturday, April 14, 2012 7:40 PM
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Apr 27, 2012, 1:33:07 PM4/27/12
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noses, but Hussein gains politically so fuck 'em up the ass in typical
democrat fashion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jr3Ceu894
-Eddie Haskell
Vandar
Apr 27, 2012, 3:05:05 PM4/27/12
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details without knowing the circumstances he'll be dealing with when and
if the time comes. A complete economic plan is going to be a bit more
than 160 pages.
For comparison, Obama's economic plan consists of a single web page
congratulating himself and a speech where he asks Congress to fix it.
> Fox News must have forgotten to tell him that it cuts
> taxes on the rich.
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Vandar
Apr 27, 2012, 6:00:26 PM4/27/12
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Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:05:05 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>It appears Vandar was hoping none of us would ACTUALLY
>>>read Romneys plan... much like he hadn't.
>>
>>I read every word of it. Like an intelligent manager, he can't offer any
>>details without knowing the circumstances he'll be dealing with when and
>>if the time comes. A complete economic plan is going to be a bit more
>>than 160 pages.
>
>
> Vandarloon---the basis of the Ryan budget is to massively cut programs
> for the bottom 2/3rd, lower taxes on the top 1/4th, ignore the debt,
> and sell idiots like you phoney policies we've already tried---that
> have failed.
Romney isn't Ryan.
But if you'd like to compare, the basis of Obama's budget seems to be
"Budget? We don't need no stinkin' budget."
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:05:05 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>It appears Vandar was hoping none of us would ACTUALLY
>>>read Romneys plan... much like he hadn't.
>>
>>I read every word of it. Like an intelligent manager, he can't offer any
>>details without knowing the circumstances he'll be dealing with when and
>>if the time comes. A complete economic plan is going to be a bit more
>>than 160 pages.
>
>
> for the bottom 2/3rd, lower taxes on the top 1/4th, ignore the debt,
> and sell idiots like you phoney policies we've already tried---that
> have failed.
Romney isn't Ryan.
But if you'd like to compare, the basis of Obama's budget seems to be
"Budget? We don't need no stinkin' budget."
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Apr 27, 2012, 10:36:56 PM4/27/12
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>
> >>Do feel free to fill in all the missing blanks in the vague
> >>generalities.
>
> > It appears Vandar was hoping none of us would ACTUALLY
> > read Romneys plan... much like he hadn't.
>
> I read every word of it. Like an intelligent manager, he can't offer any
> details without knowing the circumstances he'll be dealing with when and
> if the time comes. A complete economic plan is going to be a bit more
> than 160 pages.
You mean Romney can't check the Bureau of Labor Statistics or any
> >>Do feel free to fill in all the missing blanks in the vague
> >>generalities.
>
> > It appears Vandar was hoping none of us would ACTUALLY
> > read Romneys plan... much like he hadn't.
>
> I read every word of it. Like an intelligent manager, he can't offer any
> details without knowing the circumstances he'll be dealing with when and
> if the time comes. A complete economic plan is going to be a bit more
> than 160 pages.
other government site to know what's going on? Are you trying to tell
us he's too dumb to do that?
>
> For comparison, Obama's economic plan consists of a single web page
> congratulating himself and a speech where he asks Congress to fix it.
Repugnant Congress isn't interested in fixing it or any plan at all
that Obama hands them, what's the point of handing them anything?
Just so he'd let them keep throwing egg in his face? Yeah, that's a
real smart move.
>
> > Fox News must have forgotten to tell him that it cuts
> > taxes on the rich.
>
> You should stop acting like being rich is a bad thing.
Tom Gardner
Apr 27, 2012, 11:05:42 PM4/27/12
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On 4/25/2012 10:00 PM, MattB wrote:
>
> Independents and Moderates will pick the next President.
>
Independents ALWAYS choose. And, almost all "undecideds" historically
go for the challenger. If they were going for Obama they wouldn't
still be undecided. We will see how many dead people will vote.
>
> Independents and Moderates will pick the next President.
>
Independents ALWAYS choose. And, almost all "undecideds" historically
go for the challenger. If they were going for Obama they wouldn't
still be undecided. We will see how many dead people will vote.
Vandar
Apr 27, 2012, 11:24:01 PM4/27/12
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Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:00:26 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Vandarloon---the basis of the Ryan budget is to massively cut programs
>>>for the bottom 2/3rd, lower taxes on the top 1/4th, ignore the debt,
>>>and sell idiots like you phoney policies we've already tried---that
>>>have failed.
>>
>>Romney isn't Ryan.
>
>
> Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
Speaking of which, where's the budget from the other party?
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:00:26 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Vandarloon---the basis of the Ryan budget is to massively cut programs
>>>for the bottom 2/3rd, lower taxes on the top 1/4th, ignore the debt,
>>>and sell idiots like you phoney policies we've already tried---that
>>>have failed.
>>
>>Romney isn't Ryan.
>
>
That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
Speaking of which, where's the budget from the other party?
Vandar
Apr 27, 2012, 11:33:58 PM4/27/12
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January 2013.
>>For comparison, Obama's economic plan consists of a single web page
>>congratulating himself and a speech where he asks Congress to fix it.
>
>
> Because Congress is the one that's supposed to fix it.
been laughed out of the chamber by every member of Congress every year
he's been in office. The POTUS doesn't know shit about money.
> And if a Repugnant Congress isn't interested in fixing it or any plan at all
> that Obama hands them, what's the point of handing them anything?
do his job?
> Just so he'd let them keep throwing egg in his face? Yeah, that's a
> real smart move.
>
>
>
>>>Fox News must have forgotten to tell him that it cuts
>>>taxes on the rich.
>>
>>You should stop acting like being rich is a bad thing.
>
>
> It is, if they cheat and screw up economies at your expense.
it does though.
linuxgal
Apr 27, 2012, 11:56:02 PM4/27/12
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Obama "Get Out The Vote" rally.
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Vandar
Apr 28, 2012, 10:58:10 AM4/28/12
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Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:24:01 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>>
>>That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
>
>
> That's like saying it's better to have a nazi government just so we
> could have a government.
No, it's like saying it's better for us to have a budget than not have one.
Unless you are equating not having a budget with not having a
government, which would raise a whole new set of questions you don't
want to address.
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:24:01 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>>
>>That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
>
>
> could have a government.
No, it's like saying it's better for us to have a budget than not have one.
Unless you are equating not having a budget with not having a
government, which would raise a whole new set of questions you don't
want to address.
wy
Apr 28, 2012, 11:11:32 AM4/28/12
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On Apr 27, 11:24 pm, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> Speaking of which, where's the budget from the other party?
Does it even matter? Repugnants have no desire to pass any Democrat
budget and vice versa. It's all an exercise in futility, just for
show by Repugnants to impress no-brains like you so easily impressed
by exercises in futility.
> Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:00:26 -0400, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>Vandarloon---the basis of the Ryan budget is to massively cut programs
> >>>for the bottom 2/3rd, lower taxes on the top 1/4th, ignore the debt,
> >>>and sell idiots like you phoney policies we've already tried---that
> >>>have failed.
>
> >>Romney isn't Ryan.
>
> > Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>
> That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
Does it matter? Neither will that one be passed.
>
> >>>Vandarloon---the basis of the Ryan budget is to massively cut programs
> >>>for the bottom 2/3rd, lower taxes on the top 1/4th, ignore the debt,
> >>>and sell idiots like you phoney policies we've already tried---that
> >>>have failed.
>
> >>Romney isn't Ryan.
>
> > Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>
> That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
>
> Speaking of which, where's the budget from the other party?
budget and vice versa. It's all an exercise in futility, just for
show by Repugnants to impress no-brains like you so easily impressed
by exercises in futility.
wy
Apr 28, 2012, 11:17:21 AM4/28/12
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On Apr 28, 10:58 am, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
the last few years without a budget? Government spending still kept
going up with budgets, so what's the point? In fact, not having one
has seen government spending actually flatline in rate of growth
compared to the Bush years.
>
> Unless you are equating not having a budget with not having a
> government, which would raise a whole new set of questions you don't
> want to address.
Stupid equation not worth addressing.
> Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:24:01 -0400, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>
> >>That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
>
> > That's like saying it's better to have a nazi government just so we
> > could have a government.
>
> No, it's like saying it's better for us to have a budget than not have one.
Why? What would be significantly different over how things have been
>
> >>>Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>
> >>That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
>
> > That's like saying it's better to have a nazi government just so we
> > could have a government.
>
> No, it's like saying it's better for us to have a budget than not have one.
the last few years without a budget? Government spending still kept
going up with budgets, so what's the point? In fact, not having one
has seen government spending actually flatline in rate of growth
compared to the Bush years.
>
> Unless you are equating not having a budget with not having a
> government, which would raise a whole new set of questions you don't
> want to address.
Vandar
Apr 28, 2012, 12:12:58 PM4/28/12
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wy wrote:
> On Apr 28, 10:58 am, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:24:01 -0400, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>>
>>>>That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
>>
>>>That's like saying it's better to have a nazi government just so we
>>>could have a government.
>>
>>No, it's like saying it's better for us to have a budget than not have one.
>
>
> Why?
Why? Really? You don't know why having a budget is better than not
> On Apr 28, 10:58 am, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:24:01 -0400, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>>
>>>>That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
>>
>>>That's like saying it's better to have a nazi government just so we
>>>could have a government.
>>
>>No, it's like saying it's better for us to have a budget than not have one.
>
>
> Why?
having one?
> What would be significantly different over how things have been
> the last few years without a budget? Government spending still kept
> going up with budgets, so what's the point? In fact, not having one
> has seen government spending actually flatline in rate of growth
> compared to the Bush years.
ever did under Bush.
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Vandar
Apr 28, 2012, 7:07:24 PM4/28/12
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Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:58:10 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>>Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>>>>
>>>>That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
>>>
>>>
>>>That's like saying it's better to have a nazi government just so we
>>>could have a government.
>>
>>No, it's like saying it's better for us to have a budget than not have one.
>
>
> Not so
You think it's better to not have a budget than to have one?
> If anything comparable to the ryan nonsense ever gets passed, this
> nation will literally collapse.
> policies that caused this disaster.
>
> It' "MUCH, MUCH MORE OF THE SAME" policy that raygun/bush have done
>
> We have this present disaster because of it.
The present economic climate was not created by anyone's budget. Part of
it is being sustained by the lack of one though.
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:58:10 -0400, Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>>Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>>>>
>>>>That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
>>>
>>>
>>>That's like saying it's better to have a nazi government just so we
>>>could have a government.
>>
>>No, it's like saying it's better for us to have a budget than not have one.
>
>
You think it's better to not have a budget than to have one?
> If anything comparable to the ryan nonsense ever gets passed, this
> nation will literally collapse.
>
>
>>Unless you are equating not having a budget with not having a
>>government, which would raise a whole new set of questions you don't
>>want to address.
>
>
> The Ryan budget is a BIGGER set of policies, more extreme than the
>
>>Unless you are equating not having a budget with not having a
>>government, which would raise a whole new set of questions you don't
>>want to address.
>
>
> policies that caused this disaster.
>
> It' "MUCH, MUCH MORE OF THE SAME" policy that raygun/bush have done
>
> We have this present disaster because of it.
The present economic climate was not created by anyone's budget. Part of
it is being sustained by the lack of one though.
wy
Apr 28, 2012, 7:14:47 PM4/28/12
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trillion range, take or give a hundred or two billion.
http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4f9bf91669beddcb76000001-620-373/federal-spending.png
Looks like it's flat-lining to me compared to the Bush years. Just
remember that which you always so conveniently forget: it's not the
total, it's the rate of increase that counts - that's where the flat-
lining lies.
wy
Apr 28, 2012, 7:16:57 PM4/28/12
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On Apr 28, 7:07 pm, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
over the last 3 years compared to what preceded it, it's probably
better not to have a budget. Seems the government somehow gets a bit
more responsible with money that way.
>
> > If anything comparable to the ryan nonsense ever gets passed, this
> > nation will literally collapse.
>
> >>Unless you are equating not having a budget with not having a
> >>government, which would raise a whole new set of questions you don't
> >>want to address.
>
> > The Ryan budget is a BIGGER set of policies, more extreme than the
> > policies that caused this disaster.
>
> > It' "MUCH, MUCH MORE OF THE SAME" policy that raygun/bush have done
>
> > We have this present disaster because of it.
>
> The present economic climate was not created by anyone's budget. Part of
> it is being sustained by the lack of one though.
Your just saying so doesn't make it so. Let's see some charts and
data that back you up.
> Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:58:10 -0400, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>
> >>>>That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
>
> >>>That's like saying it's better to have a nazi government just so we
> >>>could have a government.
>
> >>No, it's like saying it's better for us to have a budget than not have one.
>
> > Not so
>
> You think it's better to not have a budget than to have one?
Considering that the trajectory of federal spending has flat-lined
>
> >>>>>Rumney has endorsed Ryan AND his budget
>
> >>>>That's nice. It's always better to have one than not.
>
> >>>That's like saying it's better to have a nazi government just so we
> >>>could have a government.
>
> >>No, it's like saying it's better for us to have a budget than not have one.
>
> > Not so
>
> You think it's better to not have a budget than to have one?
over the last 3 years compared to what preceded it, it's probably
better not to have a budget. Seems the government somehow gets a bit
more responsible with money that way.
>
> > If anything comparable to the ryan nonsense ever gets passed, this
> > nation will literally collapse.
>
> >>Unless you are equating not having a budget with not having a
> >>government, which would raise a whole new set of questions you don't
> >>want to address.
>
> > The Ryan budget is a BIGGER set of policies, more extreme than the
> > policies that caused this disaster.
>
> > It' "MUCH, MUCH MORE OF THE SAME" policy that raygun/bush have done
>
> > We have this present disaster because of it.
>
> The present economic climate was not created by anyone's budget. Part of
> it is being sustained by the lack of one though.
data that back you up.
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