OBAMA CARE DEAD!!!!
Tracey12
Care this year!
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
WE ARE WINNING!!!
KEEP THE OPPOSITION GOING!
1-20-2013
Awesome!!!
Chalk this up as another broken campaign promise by the Messiah!!! Even
with the majority in the house and the senate - Wimpy in the White House
can't manage to get anything done.
This is why he's a 1-term, lame duck "president".
Gotta LUVIT!!!!
pyjamarama
Obama Care dead; Copen Trade a fraudulent laughingstock; the Stumbulus
Package a obscene, ineffective waste of taxpayer money; the Foreign
Apology Tour a historical and national disgrace; the Dollar now has a
value similar to Charmin (single-ply); double-digit unemployment; self-
admitted mass-murdering foreign terrorists granted legal protections
not afforded to our brave Service men and women; an administration top
heavy with self-proclaimed Marxists, admirers of Mao, brazen tax
cheats and hardcore "fisting" pedophiles...
(And that's just a partial list!)
It's official -- Obama's presidency is a complete and utter failure.
November 2010 can't get here fast enough.
Joe Cool
So, you want thousands of Americans to continue to die every year
because they could not afford health care insurance?
You want insurance companies to continue to refuse coverage to people
with pre-existing conditions?
You want more Americans to be forced into bankruptcy and homelessness
due to a catastrophic illness?
More of that conservative compassion, eh?
Bugs
>
>
> It's official -- Obama's presidency is a complete and utter failure.
>
> November 2010 can't get here fast enough.
Ever wonder why the business world / investors are overwhelmingly upbeat
about Obama? Have you noticed the stock market is up a good 30% (S&P)
since he took office? Under GW, it sank nearly 40% as investors &
business ran to the side lines, waiting for change.
Only segment I see hoping for a change now are the rednecks.
pyjamarama
Americans aren't buying your mock outrage or your cynical, phony
compassion...
They've rightly sensed that the entire scheme was nothing more than
another attempt by the hard left-wing of the democratic party to
impose federal control on their health choices, redistribute more of
their hard-earned income, tread on basic liberties and keep them
enthralled and dependent to an ever expansive central government.
Nobody wants what you overweening, unctuous statists are selling.
You've been rejected.
"This legislation will not reduce health-care costs; the Obama
administration’s own actuaries have just reported that it will
increase them. It is unlikely to make Americans healthier: The
evidence tying extensions of insurance to improved health outcomes is
surprisingly weak. Insurance will reduce the financial anxiety of some
people; but others will find theirs increased. Some will still lack
insurance, but now have to pay a fine for the privilege. Some will be
paying higher premiums and taxes.
The Medicare buy-in that Reid proposed is the perfect distillation of
the Democratic approach. It would expand a program that is already
facing insolvency. Similarly, the bill attempts to achieve cost
control by empowering the Medicare and Medicaid bureaucracy to drive
hard bargains — a policy that has been tried, and has failed, for
decades."
Kevin Cunningham
Health care will pass.
TARP already passed.
The stock market is still going up and up.
Jobless rate fell for the first time last month.
The war in Iraq is winding down.
The war in Afghanistan is on track, we have objectives and an exit
strategy.
Cap and trade will pass.
Wall Street regulation will pass.
And you right wing idiots will nominate some one at least as dumb as
Palin, ending the repug party.
Aaahh, it will be a good year.
Mike Smith
>pyjamarama wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> It's official -- Obama's presidency is a complete and utter failure.
>>
>> November 2010 can't get here fast enough.
He is heading for an <EPIC FAIL>.
Fortunately, that will probably convince a bunch of Texans to re-form
the Republic of Texas.
>
>
>
>Ever wonder why the business world / investors are overwhelmingly upbeat
>about Obama? Have you noticed the stock market is up a good 30% (S&P)
>since he took office? Under GW, it sank nearly 40% as investors &
>business ran to the side lines, waiting for change.
>
>Only segment I see hoping for a change now are the rednecks.
You poor clueless kook....
The stock market was over 14,4000 prior to the socialists taking over
our US Congress in January 2007. With our idiots spending money like
drunken sailors, the stock market will increase, but it will have a
nose-dive when the bill comes due or China calls our bonds in.
Mike Smith
Buerste
"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
news:buqii5tb3atfj1j9b...@4ax.com...
Don't be so hard on him, his world is crumbling and tears flood his keyboard
as he types his defiant lies.
Buerste
"Joe Cool" <joeco...@live.com> wrote in message
news:7730585e-f0a1-4487...@g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
You read from the Kool-Aid soaked pamphlet very well!
pyjamarama
No, it won't. Pelosi just announced it dead for this session and
there's no way in hell legislation this unpopular will be taken up in
an election year. After said election, Democratic totals in the House
and Senate will be much, much lower (polls point to a Republican
takeover of the House).
Some version of health care "reform" may pass in a few years but it
will be nothing the left will like.
That you can count on.
>
> TARP already passed.
Yes it did -- signed into law by President George W. Bush.
I didn't realize you were a fan of his.
>
> The stock market is still going up and up.
And why do you suppose that is? (this should be funny...er,
interesting).
>
> Jobless rate fell for the first time last month.
Seasonal hiring. It always goes up during the Holidays.
Unfortunately for Obama, unemployment remains in the double-digits.
Unfortunately for Americans, Obama hasn't even proposed to do anything
about, let alone done anything about it.
>
> The war in Iraq is winding down.
Thanks to George Bush's surge, yes.
>
> The war in Afghanistan is on track, we have objectives and an exit
> strategy.
You mean a withdrawl date. Very different animal.
>
> Cap and trade will pass.
Really, on what evidence? All the Climate Evangelicals in Copenhagen
couldn't even decide on the color of the sky. ClimateGate and yet
another harsh winter has wised up Americans to its real purpose (i.e.
redistributive nonsense).
>
> Wall Street regulation will pass.
>
> And you right wing idiots will nominate some one at least as dumb as
> Palin, ending the repug party.
Your messiah is at 44% and dropping...
R's lead D's in the generic ballot by 7 points.
Combined regional polling indicates the likelihood of a Republican
takeover next Nov.
Sucks to be you.
Freestyle
What are you winning asshole?
You are a witless pawns of big Pharma and corporate Healthcare slime
who are robbing Americans blind and literally killing them.
Now you will have sanctioned corporate facism controlling 1/6th of
GDP.
You will be mandated to buy their product weather you want it or not
with no cost control of a private option.
Everything you railed against will come to pass all because of blind
obstruction.
Your afraid of Government controlled healthcare?
Just wait till you or someone you care about gets sick or dies by of
the tender mercies of Corporate LIEbercare.
Stupid fucking wingnuts continue to support policies against their own
interests out of blind hate and ignorance.
You won nothing. All your obstruction has done is hurt America and
Americans.
Tens of thousands will continue to die every year with no healthcare.
Victory? Much more like treasonous, moronic sadists who hate America.
Now tell me about how you support big corporate energy and Arab oil
cartels who give our money to terrorists by denying Global Warming you
fucking morons.
Buerste
"Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:eca65d3e-b544-4713...@k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> increase them. It is unlikely to make Americans healthier: The
> evidence tying extensions of insurance to improved health outcomes is
> surprisingly weak. Insurance will reduce the financial anxiety of some
> people; but others will find theirs increased. Some will still lack
> insurance, but now have to pay a fine for the privilege. Some will be
> paying higher premiums and taxes.
>
> The Medicare buy-in that Reid proposed is the perfect distillation of
> the Democratic approach. It would expand a program that is already
> facing insolvency. Similarly, the bill attempts to achieve cost
> control by empowering the Medicare and Medicaid bureaucracy to drive
> decades."
Health care will pass.
TARP already passed.
The stock market is still going up and up.
Jobless rate fell for the first time last month.
The war in Iraq is winding down.
The war in Afghanistan is on track, we have objectives and an exit
strategy.
Cap and trade will pass.
Wall Street regulation will pass.
And you right wing idiots will nominate some one at least as dumb as
Palin, ending the repug party.
Aaahh, it will be a good year.
*****************************************
Aaahh, NEXT year you libtards will lose the House and Senate, all the damage
done will start to be repaired by repealing all the libtard bills, BO is
already a lame duck and will go into hiding until he's extracted from the WH
in 2012. Aaahh!
fost...@gmail.com
> Victory? Much more like treasonous, moronic sadists who hate America.
>
Sounds like the whiny Liberal bitch has sand in his vagina.
buzz
> The war in Iraq is winding down.
Thanks to Bush's surge, which the simple-minded dummycrats and Hussein
opposed.
>
> The war in Afghanistan is on track, we have objectives and an exit
> strategy.
OK, I'll bite, what are they, Kevievboy? Please give us the details.
And tell us again Kevieboy, in what branch of the military did you serve.
Barack Hussein Obama...MMM MMM MMM
Send HIM to Pakistan to fight Osama...MMM MMM MMM
Simple-minded dummycrats (the party that birthed the KKK) and
liberals...morons electing morons.
Democratic Teabagging Fag
>On Dec 16, 4:15 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nancy The Ugly just announced that there will be no Obama Socialist
>> Care this year!
>>
>> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>>
>> WE ARE WINNING!!!
>>
>> KEEP THE OPPOSITION GOING!
>
>So, you want thousands of Americans to continue to die every year
>because they could not afford health care insurance?
Nobody dies because they do not have health insurance. More people die
annually from infections contracted in hospitals than those with
health insurance. If you're so concerned with people dying, you'd ask
your Congressman to strengthen the protocols use in hospitals.
>
>You want insurance companies to continue to refuse coverage to people
>with pre-existing conditions?
I guess you do not have a problem with an insurance company going
bankrupt due having to pay for costly medical treatments. The bills
Congress have do not address the high cost of medical treatments. You
can give health insurance to everybody, but it does not alleviate the
increasing costs of medical treatments.
Many insurance companies do have high risk policies. It's costly, but
if you want it you'll have to pay for it. Just like a an auto
insurance company will not give a person a comprehensive coverage if
the driver has a record of dui's, speeding tickets and signal
violations with a car full of dents and dings.
>
>You want more Americans to be forced into bankruptcy and homelessness
>due to a catastrophic illness?
Who forces that bankruptcy? They go bankrupt due to medical bills not
because health insurance is high.
Why are medical bills high? A doctor spends has high student loans to
pay for. Loans he has to pay back with the revenue he gets from his
practice. The doctor has to protect his investment buy purchasing
malpractice insurance. Congress's bills do not address that cost.
Hospitals have to maintain malpractice insurance due to deep pockets
litigation. That might explain why a hospital may charge $40 for an
aspirin dose that would cost less than a buck at WalMart.
>
>More of that conservative compassion, eh?
Where's your business sense?
-
Teabagging is an erotic activity used within
the context of BDSM and male dominance, with
a dominant man teabagging his submissive
partner as one variation of facesitting and/or
as a means of inflicting erotic humiliation.
A favorite hobby amongst LIBERALS.
Tracey12
Christopher Helms
They don't give a fuck about people suffering. The block of ice
between their ears is what makes them conservatives.
Tracey12
Let's get this perfectly clear; Conservatives like myself are
extremely concerned about the future of our wonderful country, and its
citizens. This is why we never give up trying to make the left
understand that stateism is not a good replacement for liberty.
Empowering the state to hand out anything is a big mistake. The left
seems to think that government is supposed to care for them, feed
them, clothe them, and now give them health care "for free". Who told
them that government is supposed to rob someone else so that the lib
can have what he wants in life?
Obviously, government is spending far too much already. Look at how
much we are going to China for these days in loans. Look at the
national debt. Where are the trillions supposed to come from to pay
for this redistributionism?
We Conservatives do not want to empower a totalitarian state for the
sake of some handout. We believe that you know better how to run your
life and with low taxes and few regulations, you can effectively
accomplish that goal. But, in the eyes of the left wing, only
government knows how to run your life properly.
duke
>On Dec 16, 4:15�pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nancy The Ugly just announced that there will be no Obama Socialist
>> Care this year!
>>
>> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>>
>> WE ARE WINNING!!!
>>
>> KEEP THE OPPOSITION GOING!
>What are you winning asshole?
>You are a witless pawns of big Pharma and corporate Healthcare slime
>who are robbing Americans blind and literally killing them.
The Republicans offered some great alternatives like tort control. And
competition across state lines. But noooooooo, that would work and put the
'rat-friendly lawyers out of business.
And so the story goes.
>Now you will have sanctioned corporate facism controlling 1/6th of
>GDP.
>
>You will be mandated to buy their product weather you want it or not
>with no cost control of a private option.
>Everything you railed against will come to pass all because of blind
>obstruction.
>
>Your afraid of Government controlled healthcare?
>Just wait till you or someone you care about gets sick or dies by of
>the tender mercies of Corporate LIEbercare.
>
>Stupid fucking wingnuts continue to support policies against their own
>interests out of blind hate and ignorance.
>You won nothing. All your obstruction has done is hurt America and
>Americans.
>
>Tens of thousands will continue to die every year with no healthcare.
>
>Victory? Much more like treasonous, moronic sadists who hate America.
>
>Now tell me about how you support big corporate energy and Arab oil
>cartels who give our money to terrorists by denying Global Warming you
>fucking morons.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
George Kerby
On 12/16/09 5:26 PM, in article buqii5tb3atfj1j9b...@4ax.com,
"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote:
Whatta expect from a wild hare, intelligence?!?
Tracey12
Its all about control, not health care. Dems want to control us.
Freestyle
>
> Its all about control, not health care. Dems want to control us.
>
So incredibly naive.
You are, have been and will continue to be under the control of mega
corporations, foreign energy suppliers and their Republicon lapdogs.
You are now at the mercy of Corporatecare.
Enjoy the mandated fascism that you helped to bring about.
You fear what you do not understand. They use this and you unwittingly
give them the power to control your lives.
The very thing you are afraid of is what you have because of your
willful ignorance and blind hate.
Seon Ferguson
"Tracey12" <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:24e3befb-bacb-42c6...@q16g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
That's good to hear. Keep fighting the New World Order over there!
Snowman
The Republicans offered some great alternatives like tort control.
And
competition across state lines. But noooooooo, that would work and
put the
'rat-friendly lawyers out of business.
Maybe Nancy,Harry and Co. can use their "public option" to get some
Aricept.
They NEED it.
edi...@netpath.net
> On Dec 17, 7:21 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> The Republicans offered some great alternatives like tort control.
> And
> competition across state lines. But noooooooo, that would work and
> put the
> 'rat-friendly lawyers out of business.
See that John Edwards' (ex?)-mistress now is suing him for $17,000
MONTHLY child support?
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
bvallely
> pyjamarama wrote:
>
> > It's official -- Obama's presidency is a complete and utter failure.
>
> > November 2010 can't get here fast enough.
>
> Ever wonder why the business world / investors are overwhelmingly upbeat
> about Obama? Have you noticed the stock market is up a good 30% (S&P)
> since he took office? Under GW, it sank nearly 40% as investors &
> business ran to the side lines, waiting for change.
Yeah, because he's pumped a trillion borrowed dollars into the market
for short there growth. They may be investing, but they're keeping a
VERY sharp lookout of the second crash that's sure to come.
Mike Smith
<bris...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 17, 4:02�pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Its all about control, not health care. �Dems want to control us.
>>
>
>So incredibly naive.
>You are, have been and will continue to be under the control of mega
>corporations, foreign energy suppliers and their Republicon lapdogs.
>
>You are now at the mercy of Corporatecare.
>Enjoy the mandated fascism that you helped to bring about.
>
You poor clueless blithering idiot...
I feel sorry for you.
You want big government to tell you what you can and cannot have,
regarding your medical treatments, for the rest of your hopeless
life...
Mike Smith
duke
wrote:
Yep, they're halfway commie as it is.
Kevin Cunningham
> > increase them. It is unlikely to make Americans healthier: The
> > evidence tying extensions of insurance to improved health outcomes is
> > surprisingly weak. Insurance will reduce the financial anxiety of some
> > people; but others will find theirs increased. Some will still lack
> > insurance, but now have to pay a fine for the privilege. Some will be
> > paying higher premiums and taxes.
>
> > The Medicare buy-in that Reid proposed is the perfect distillation of
> > the Democratic approach. It would expand a program that is already
> > facing insolvency. Similarly, the bill attempts to achieve cost
> > control by empowering the Medicare and Medicaid bureaucracy to drive
> > decades."
>
> Health care will pass.
>
> TARP already passed.
>
> The stock market is still going up and up.
>
> Jobless rate fell for the first time last month.
>
> The war in Iraq is winding down.
>
> The war in Afghanistan is on track, we have objectives and an exit
> strategy.
>
> Cap and trade will pass.
>
> Wall Street regulation will pass.
>
> And you right wing idiots will nominate some one at least as dumb as
> Palin, ending the repug party.
>
> Aaahh, it will be a good year.
> *****************************************
>
> Aaahh, NEXT year you libtards will lose the House and Senate, all the damage
> done will start to be repaired by repealing all the libtard bills, BO is
> already a lame duck and will go into hiding until he's extracted from the WH
> in 2012. Aaahh!
And in the last election you had the repugs winning.
How's that workin' out for ya?
Kevin Cunningham
> Kevin Cunningham wrote:
> > The war in Iraq is winding down.
>
> Thanks to Bush's surge, which the simple-minded dummycrats and Hussein
> opposed.
>
>
>
> > The war in Afghanistan is on track, we have objectives and an exit
> > strategy.
>
> OK, I'll bite, what are they, Kevievboy? Please give us the details.
>
> And tell us again Kevieboy, in what branch of the military did you serve.
>
Another gutless repug heard from. It must bother him when he drives
by a VA facility. He approves of these wars but he is to gutless, to
cowardly to serve.
So tell us all, why did we invade Iraq? I forgot....
Kevin Cunningham
wrote:
> Waiting for his next teabag, Joe Cool <joecool1...@live.com> wrote:
>
> >On Dec 16, 4:15 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Nancy The Ugly just announced that there will be no Obama Socialist
> >> Care this year!
>
> >> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>
> >> WE ARE WINNING!!!
>
> >> KEEP THE OPPOSITION GOING!
>
> >So, you want thousands of Americans to continue to die every year
> >because they could not afford health care insurance?
>
> Nobody dies because they do not have health insurance.
(crap snipped)
"Nobody dies because they do not have health insurance."
The above statement is a filth ridden lie. A Harvard study supported
by hundreds of papers shows that people die because of their lack of
insurance. This is a huge cost and a moral wrong.
Kevin Cunningham
What a freakin' joke!
When the Bushies were in office Tracey and his freedom lovin'
conservatives said that the national debt didn't matter so they cut
taxes and started wars. And we ran up the biggest national debt in
history.
Tracey is ready to have some one else fight any 'ole war at any 'ole
time. Just point and shoot, but not at Tracey. See, Bush, Cheney,
Rove and Limbaugh all evaded the draft.
Conservatives have no interest in freedom, they want every one to act
like they should. Look at the Patriot Act they passed. Look at the
problems with illegal wiretapping the Bushies had. How about Gitmo
and Abu Graib? The conservatives wanted the right to ask your
librarian what books you took out. Gee, that's real freedom lovin'.
Face it, there is no conservative interest in freedom. The
conservatives want to keep marriage firmly under legal control. They
don't want to give you the freedom to get married in your own way.
They want the law and religion merged.
When the Bushies were running up the debt were was Tracey? When the
Bushies were calling for more tax cuts and more debt were was Tracey?
When the constitution was thrown into the street were was Tracey?
Tracey12
More people have died because of big government than have died from
lack of insurance.
Empowering the state is wrong. History proves it.
Freestyle
>
> >You are now at the mercy of Corporatecare.
> >Enjoy the mandated fascism that you helped to bring about.
>
> You poor clueless blithering idiot...
>
> I feel sorry for you.
>
> You want big government to tell you what you can and cannot have,
> regarding your medical treatments, for the rest of your hopeless
> life...
>
> Mike Smith
So your saying you prefer being told what you can and cannot have
medically by for profit corporations who's business model is to find
any way they can to fuck you out of your benefits when you get sick to
increase the bottom line.
Check.
Kenny McCormack
Freestyle <bris...@gmail.com> wrote:
...
>So your [sic] saying you prefer being told what you can and cannot have
>medically by for profit corporations who's business model is to find
>any way they can to fuck you out of your benefits when you get sick to
>increase the bottom line.
>
>Check.
Exactly. That's what "Mike Smith" is all about.
Well put, sir.
pyjamarama
Actually it's working out swimmingly...
It allowed Americans to see first-hand the effects of liberal
"rule"...
It only took them 11 months to be thoroughly repulsed by it.
All of Obama's (and the left's) pet socialist projects are now right
out there, and one by one they're being soundly rejected by a sickened
electorate.
They've also taken measure of the venality, the lust for absolute
power and the mind-boggling hypocrisy of this administration and the
leadership of the democratic party.
Again, they're rejecting the lot of it.
Ironically, the end result of Obama's win, coupled with the dems
control of Congress, will be to so stigmatize almost everything
associated with liberalism (just as it was under Carter) that it'll be
another generation (at least) before Americans let said liberals
anywhere near the levers of power.
With the ascendence of the Reagan Revolution, liberalism was banished
from the body politic for almost three decades -- this is why up to
and including the Obama campaign you drones were forced to run as
centrists and even conservatives (fiscally anyway) -- it'll be at
least that long before you'll get another chance.
Obama's victory tricked liberals into showing their true colors --
consequently you've done conservatism a huge favor.
THANKS!
Couldn't have done it without ya!
Sucks to be you, huh?
Kevin Cunningham
Now this is the fun part, telling Tracey to prove it. But prove it.
Tracey approves of the big government that gives us our big military.
Not that he'd ever serve in it but he loves the flags and marching.
So government power is good if it keeps you in the military.
And government power is bad if you get the same clinical medicine that
every one else in the world gets. Our health care is rated no. 27th
in the world. Not so hot. We are worse than every nation in Europe.
They live longer and spend less of their nations money on health care.
Just like you conservatives have said time after time, size matters.
By the way, we empowered our nation to draft men, seize industries and
fight WWII. Did we get beat? I thought not.
Mike Smith
Once again, you post mindless nonsense.
Do you have the first clue about what is or is not allowed by medical
insurance?
Do you have the first clue that there is something called
"competition" between insurance companies?
Thanks for posting more proof that you are a clueless blithering
idiot.
Mike Smith
Freestyle
Ok, genius, then explain the 400 plus "mergers" of private insurers
who now dominate most markets. They use their concentrated power to
control premium levels, benefit packages, and provider payments in the
markets they control.
According to the American Medical Association, 94 percent of insurance
markets in the United States are now highly concentrated, and insurers
are thriving in the anti-competitive marketplace, raking in enormous
profits and paying out huge CEO salaries.
You know nothing "Mike Smith"
Mike Smith
Oh really????
>
>According to the American Medical Association, 94 percent of insurance
>markets in the United States are now highly concentrated, and insurers
>are thriving in the anti-competitive marketplace, raking in enormous
>profits and paying out huge CEO salaries.
Envious? Of course you are.
You, being the world class fool that you are, mindlessly "think" a
government plan would be much better, despite the fact that our
government has absolutely no history that suggests they could run any
bureaucracy worth a shit.
>
>You know nothing "Mike Smith"
What ever feeds your fantasies, dude...
Mike Smith
Kenny McCormack
Freestyle <bris...@gmail.com> wrote:
...
>You know nothing "Mike Smith"
And water is wet. The Pope is Catholic, and ...
Kevin Cunningham
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:16:41 -0800 (PST), Freestyle
>
>
>
>
>
Notice that Mikey didn't say a factual thing, just lots of yelling a
screaming. The facts are that insurance companies are regulated by
states and the feds. Most large markets have no semblance of
competition. And the insurance companies love that.
Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
denying the claim. What you need if you go into the hospital is a
good, well trained negotiator, then a competent doctor.
Tracey12
Mike Smith
Prove it.
>The facts are that insurance companies are regulated by
>states and the feds. Most large markets have no semblance of
>competition. And the insurance companies love that.
You do not know anything about insurance companies, do you...
>
>Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
>denying the claim.
Do you enjoy lying about this stuff? Wait, you're a clueless
blithering idiot... No wonder you "think" insurance starts out denying
claims.
> What you need if you go into the hospital is a
>good, well trained negotiator, then a competent doctor.
Whatever feeds your fantasies, dude...
Mike Smith
Kevin Cunningham
Notice that Mikey didn't include a refutation of any thing I said, he
just bloviated like mad. He figures that facts just don't work all
that well for a conservative.
And he didn't do a thing about facts like the number of news stories
about people getting their health insurance claims initially rejected
by their insurer. But that's typical for the repugs, no facts, lots
of yelling.
Kevin Cunningham
will pass? That 46 million uninsured will get insurance?
pyjamarama
For starters because they repeatedly and brazenly violated the cease-
fire terms of the first Gulf War...
Because they ignored and/or violated 17 separate UN resolutions...
Because the UN authorized the use of force if they didn't comply with
resolution 1441 (they didn't)...
Because they harbored and gave sanctuary to key members of Al Queda...
Because Bill Clinton signed the Iraq Regime Change resolution making
Saddam's ouster official US foreign policy...
Because they repeatedly and brazenly violated the "no fly zones" --
put in place as part of the Gulf War cease-fire terms...
Because the first Gulf War was never over -- a cease-fire was adopted,
dependent on Saddam's compliance. He did not comply...
Because he had attacked his neighbors and used WMD on his own
population....
Because our intel, the UN's intel and the intel of every relevant
nation showed him to possess significant quantities of WMD's...
Because he was the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the Middle East,
including paying cash rewards to the families of Palestinian homocide
bombers...
Because he plotted and had every intention of carrying out the
assassination of a US president...
Because his regime murdered his own citizenry in the most gruesome
ways imaginable (wood chippers, etc.) and his many palaces and
government facilities featured "rape rooms" and torture chambers...
Shall I go on?
Kevin Cunningham
And the reasons Bush gave to the nation in his address to congress,
WMD's, etc. were lies, every one of them. Are you willing to invade
any country that ignores the UN? Well, then we would have to invade
countries like Israel. Do you want to invade Israel? How about
Tanzania?
And of course you lied about al-Qaida. They were never, ever in
Iraq. That is just a filthy lie.
And as for killing US presidents, are you willing to invade Russia,
China, Iraq, North Korea and Cuba? They have all plotted to kill US
presidents. That's why we have the Secret Service.
And it's lovely to see conservative approve of our torture while
condemning their torture. We tortured Iraqis and we are always
right. However if they torture Iraqis why they are evil.
You just approve of torture.
Mike Smith
<sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
Have you ever had a medical insurance policy?
Based on your posts, you have not.
Besides, posting facts, cites, and proof would only confuse you. Those
points are completely lost on the typical libtard, and you are a
typical libtard.
Mike Smith
Balthazar The Cajun
> Nancy The Ugly just announced that there will be no Obama Socialist
> Care this year!
>
> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>
> WE ARE WINNING!!!
>
> KEEP THE OPPOSITION GOING!
Ooooops!!! Guess you missed that one.
Senate will pass their bill Sunday night/Monday morning; bills will go
to conference, out by Christmas. If not out by Christmas, will work
over the Christmas break and pass a unified bill before the end of the
session.
Right-wing and Republican heads exploding.
Kevin Cunningham
Once again Mikey can't post any facts. Come on, Mikey, why no facts?
If you think I'm ignorant of insurance law post the facts you think
I'm ignorant of.
John Q Public
<balthaza...@hotmail.com> said:
Sorry fool, she was referring to House not the Senate, recociliation process
between the 2 houses cannot even start to be discussed until Jan 19th
when they return!
So no bill into law this year is correct
So you are a jackass is correct
BTW The House and Senate versions are miles not inches apart so chance
of a bill
containing anything you fools want is slim
Mike Smith
wrote:
>In article
><e9cb681f-df04-4ca3...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>sms...@mindspring.com says...
>
>>Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
>>denying the claim. What you need if you go into the hospital is a
>>good, well trained negotiator, then a competent doctor.
>
>Thirty percenty of all claims are rejected on first presentation.
30%??? That cannot be true... The Kevin buffoon insists it is 100%.
And I quote:
> >> >Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
> >> >denying the claim.
How can that be???
/s
When the Kevin buffoon starts off with that ridiculous statement,
there is nowhere to go with any rebuttal.
Mike Smith
Tracey12
> Nancy The Ugly just announced that there will be no Obama Socialist
> Care this year!
>
> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>
> WE ARE WINNING!!!
>
> KEEP THE OPPOSITION GOING!
Obama Care is dead. Don't believe what you read. Abortion killed
it. How ironic. How funny.
Kevin Cunningham
And when you shamble up to get your Obamacare or what ever call it
what are you going to say? When you get your bail out for your house
you will be grateful, right?
See, bunkie, you want government aid for your house, that's quite a
different thing from paying into an insurance plan, you just want free
government money.
If you had any ethics at all you wouldn't accept aid for your house,
you wouldn't accept aid under Medicare but I bet you do.
Kevin Cunningham
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:57:35 -0500, Gogarty <Goga...@Clongowes.edu.ie>
> wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><e9cb681f-df04-4ca3-b041-90387317e...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> >sms...@mindspring.com says...
>
> >>Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
> >>denying the claim. What you need if you go into the hospital is a
> >>good, well trained negotiator, then a competent doctor.
>
> >Thirty percenty of all claims are rejected on first presentation.
>
> 30%??? That cannot be true... The Kevin buffoon insists it is 100%.
> And I quote:
>
> > >> >Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
> > >> >denying the claim.
>
> How can that be???
>
> /s
>
> When the Kevin buffoon starts off with that ridiculous statement,
> there is nowhere to go with any rebuttal.
>
> Mike Smith
Mikey, still can't come up with any facts on your own. What's wrong?
Oh, my bad, you don't have any.
Do you really think that a 30% rejection rate is a good thing? Do you
really think that deciding that using a prior condition to throw
people out of an insurance plan is a good, moral idea?
John Q Public
KC, assuming everyone else is as entitled and useless as you again. Project
your fantasies elsewhere because we have been against all bailouts from
the beginning
ArmyOfDorkness
"Tracey12" <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d1cfde8b-1905-4e5f...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
POLITICO Breaking News:
-----------------------------------------------------
The Democratic Party's decades-long push to remake the U.S. health care
system cleared a major hurdle early Monday morning, with the Senate voting
60-40 on party lines to advance a $871 billion bill to extend coverage to
nearly all Americans.
For more information...http://www.politico.com
Mike Smith
<sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Dec 20, 5:02�pm, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:57:35 -0500, Gogarty <Goga...@Clongowes.edu.ie>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article
>> ><e9cb681f-df04-4ca3-b041-90387317e...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>> >sms...@mindspring.com says...
>>
>> >>Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
>> >>denying the claim. �What you need if you go into the hospital is a
>> >>good, well trained negotiator, then a competent doctor.
>>
>> >Thirty percenty of all claims are rejected on first presentation.
>>
>> 30%??? That cannot be true... The Kevin buffoon insists it is 100%.
>> And I quote:
>>
>> > >> >Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
>> > >> >denying the claim.
>>
>> How can that be???
>>
>> /s
>>
>> When the Kevin buffoon starts off with that ridiculous statement,
>> there is nowhere to go with any rebuttal.
>>
>> Mike Smith
>
>Mikey, still can't come up with any facts on your own. What's wrong?
>Oh, my bad, you don't have any.
They are easily googled. How about giving me a list of sites you would
accept as legitimate sources, and I'll post some links for you.
>
>Do you really think that a 30% rejection rate is a good thing?
You stated they all start out rejecting each claim. Why did you lie?
(I'm wondering if Kevin is smart enough to know he lied?)
>Do you
>really think that deciding that using a prior condition to throw
>people out of an insurance plan is a good, moral idea?
I never stated that was an accurate number.
Based on my personal experiences over the last 10 years, the insurance
company's rate of rejection on the first presentation is 0%. It never
happened. Each and every one of my claims have been approved, first
time, every time.
Mike Smith