NYC being a jungle and the rest of America being a desert

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

That's a nice way to describe life in America. You often wonder
"Where's the people?" as you walk in America. Buses are totally
unreliable. Then there's NYC, often called the Asphalt Jungle, a place
where the "monkey within" (we all have a monkey within) can have fun
and socialize. It depends what feels "natural" to you, but you often
find yourself in a cage given the wrong conditions. And that's bad,
real bad. Actually, it's time for me to get out...

On May 7, 2:38 am, Martin Edwards <big_mart...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 06/05/2013 18:07, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Philosopher wrote:
> > On May 6, 2:31 am, Martin Edwards <big_mart...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On 05/05/2013 22:46, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
>
> >> Philosopher wrote:
> >>> On May 3, 2:49 am, Martin Edwards <big_mart...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> On 01/05/2013 22:03, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
>
> >>>> Philosopher wrote:
> >>>>> Or the UK is an epigone of America. Two parties with small variations
> >>>>> of the same.
>
> >>>> Yes, I very much agree with that.
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
> >>>> painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman
>
> >>> Very little variation and yet they hate each other with a passion?
>
> >>> This side of the Atlantic "liberal" is worse than gay.
>
> >>> I would be afraid to say such word out loud. If I were to come out of
> >>> the closet I think it would be safe to admit being a liberal in NYC.
>
> >> Yes, I think so. The Law and Order stable is generally liberal and
> >> Lennie (pbuh) was sometimes suspected of reactionary tendencies.
>
> > Well, what counts is that the parks are free of homeless and the
> > streets free of litter.
>
> > That's the problem in my reactionary town, mostly corruption. Though I
> > think that's a bipartisan issue.
>
> Could you identify it? I'm interested in that kind of thing. While NY
> looks like what Europeans think of as a city, I found in, eg, Louisiana,
> that the cities are not really cities but collections of buildings.
> Lafayette, Lake Charles and even Baton Rouge do not seem busy at any
> time of day.

I said it last summer: "If you hate people, you'll love America --
except if you live in NYC."

The sprawl atomizes people (what a fantastic word). People are
naturally SOCIAL until they get behind the wheel of the automobile.
The only friendly vehicle that could traverse a city (another nice
word) without destroying communities is the bicycle. Public
transportation too, but that requires some burning of gas and a lot of
patience in a spread out city. Buses can't really adapt to your route
as well.

Last summer I landed 100 miles from NYC, in a little town called
Woodbourne and I thought of Heaven and Hell. Absolutely beautiful but
absolutely nothing to do. No trails to hike, something the Europeans
enjoy as well. NYC is different. There are trails not far from the
city or at least as close as being practical. Central Park is a nice
getaway in the middle of the Urban Jungle. The rest of America is a
DESERT for the most part. Parks are full of homeless in my area, so
that's something to avoid. You see few people and when you find it's
often the wrong people. An Oasis is hard to find.

Hey, I got my nice desert cap...

http://www.ultra-running-insights.com/images/gear-desert-hat-north-face.jpg


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[Neolibertarian]

In article
<2c65528f-6b10-4482...@w8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

<thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> The sprawl atomizes people (what a fantastic word). People are
> naturally SOCIAL until they get behind the wheel of the automobile.
> The only friendly vehicle that could traverse a city (another nice
> word) without destroying communities is the bicycle. Public
> transportation too, but that requires some burning of gas and a lot of
> patience in a spread out city. Buses can't really adapt to your route
> as well.

Petrophobe?

--
Neolibertarian

"Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 7, 7:33 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <2c65528f-6b10-4482-b3d5-f91229a11...@w8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,

>  "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"
>

>  <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The sprawl atomizes people (what a fantastic word). People are
> > naturally SOCIAL until they get behind the wheel of the automobile.
> > The only friendly vehicle that could traverse a city (another nice
> > word) without destroying communities is the bicycle. Public
> > transportation too, but that requires some burning of gas and a lot of
> > patience in a spread out city. Buses can't really adapt to your route
> > as well.
>
> Petrophobe?

Not only that, it's also the stupidity of the car. I ain't handicap,
you know. I want to be independent and free --off the grid whenever
possible.

Ah, and I don't want to feed the bankers, doctors and the lawyers.

[jane]

On May 7, 11:42 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

> http://www.ultra-running-insights.com/images/gear-desert-hat-north-fa...
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

I was just in NYC and I would have to say that you have the scenario
the wrong way around; NYC is the desert. I didn't see one blade of
grass, one pant, one tree. What I did see was a lot of sand, rocks and
limestone intermixed (concrete). When it rained, the water did not
penetrate into the ground, but rather flowed off of the surface and
was directed away from the city; the ground underneath was dry and
arid. The inhabitants don't eat food or drink water from this desert
area; both have to be imported from the plush and fertile areas
surrounding this desert.

After walking a few miles, I finally saw some grass and trees. I
would best describe this as a museum of nature since no one actually
lived there; they called it Central Park.

When I looked up I finally saw some plants and trees. These were on
the top of buildings on porches of places called penthouses. This
further exemplifies that this area is a desert. These plants are
imported from the surrounding plush area, planted in containers, and
are watered with imported water. These plants would die if left
unattended. These plants and trees are so scarce in a desert
environment that only the wealthy can afford them.

I finally found some other plush vegetation; it was *enclosed* in a
glass building called the Ford Foundation. Once again, this
vegetation would die if left unattended.

I found a "city within a city" called Tudor city. They pride
themselves as a "garden city": However this city had a few very
small areas of naturally grown trees, scrubs and bushes,. These
areas are as rare as an oasis in a desert, further proof that NYC is a
desert. Additionally, areas of trees and scrubs are so scarce, New
York City has a special web page to help you find these oasis.
http://www.nycgovparks.org/parks/

[wy]

The only part of New York you're referring to as a "desert" is the
Times Square area. It doesn't take walking "miles" before you see any
vegetation. In fact, the nearest park to TS is Bryant Park, just a
long block's walk from TS's 7th and 42nd (not "miles") and less than
10 blocks south from TS is the mini-park Herald Square. In fact, one
only has to walk blocks (not "miles") along the side streets both east
and west of TS to see tree-lined streets. If Central Park is the only
place you saw vegetation, then you never really saw New York or were
never there, meaning another made-up fantasy of yours to spin out
another made-up pointless point with a right wingnut slant to it.

[Sid9]

"jane" <jane....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d1f45612-dfb8-4e36...@b2g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

"There are none so blind as those who will not see"

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

The sprawl has taken over farmland all over this nation and we find an
ever growing trend to import food. The trend here is more freeways and
parking lots.

And they don't grow food in the sprawl. It's a wasteland, with few
signs of life. There's a trend to build "liveable communities," but
that's only for the trendy.

The rest live in the desert.

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<e2932b8f-0653-4889...@j4g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

Petrophobe.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 8, 9:06 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <e2932b8f-0653-4889-b43c-404bb5fa8...@j4g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,

>  "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 7, 7:33 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <2c65528f-6b10-4482-b3d5-f91229a11...@w8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
> > >  "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"
>
> > >  <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The sprawl atomizes people (what a fantastic word). People are
> > > > naturally SOCIAL until they get behind the wheel of the automobile.
> > > > The only friendly vehicle that could traverse a city (another nice
> > > > word) without destroying communities is the bicycle. Public
> > > > transportation too, but that requires some burning of gas and a lot of
> > > > patience in a spread out city. Buses can't really adapt to your route
> > > > as well.
>
> > > Petrophobe?
>
> > Not only that, it's also the stupidity of the car. I ain't handicap,
> > you know. I want to be independent and free --off the grid whenever
> > possible.
>
> > Ah, and I don't want to feed the bankers, doctors and the lawyers.
>
> Petrophobe.

No more than you are electrophobe.

Little electric cars are ready to take the communities by storm:

http://www.ideal-living.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/nevs_1.jpg

We'll be enjoying life once again. Electric bikes are all the rage
too. We just need space.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 9, 4:02 am, Martin Edwards <big_mart...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/05/2013 20:38, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Philosopher wrote:
> > On May 8, 8:47 am, jane <jane.pla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> On May 7, 11:42 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

> >>> The sprawl atomizes people (what a fantastic word). People are
> >>> naturally SOCIAL until they get behind the wheel of the automobile.
> >>> The only friendly vehicle that could traverse a city (another nice
> >>> word) without destroying communities is the bicycle. Public
> >>> transportation too, but that requires some burning of gas and a lot of
> >>> patience in a spread out city. Buses can't really adapt to your route
> >>> as well.
>

> >>> Last summer I landed 100 miles from NYC, in a little town called
> >>> Woodbourne and I thought of Heaven and Hell. Absolutely beautiful but
> >>> absolutely nothing to do. No trails to hike, something the Europeans
> >>> enjoy as well. NYC is different. There are trails not far from the
> >>> city or at least as close as being practical. Central Park is a nice
> >>> getaway in the middle of the Urban Jungle. The rest of America is a
> >>> DESERT for the most part. Parks are full of homeless in my area, so
> >>> that's something to avoid. You see few people and when you find it's
> >>> often the wrong people. An Oasis is hard to find.
>
> >>> Hey, I got my nice desert cap...
>

> >>>http://www.ultra-running-insights.com/images/gear-desert-hat-north-fa...
>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>>http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> >> I was just in NYC and I would have to say that you have the scenario
> >> the wrong way around; NYC is the desert. I didn't see one blade of
> >> grass, one pant, one tree. What I did see was a lot of sand, rocks and
> >> limestone intermixed (concrete). When it rained, the water did not
> >> penetrate into the ground, but rather flowed off of the surface and
> >> was directed away from the city; the ground underneath was dry and
> >> arid. The inhabitants don't eat food or drink water from this desert
> >> area; both have to be imported from the plush and fertile areas
> >> surrounding this desert.
>
> > The sprawl has taken over farmland all over this nation and we find an
> > ever growing trend to import food. The trend here is more freeways and
> > parking lots.
>
> > And they don't grow food in the sprawl. It's a wasteland, with few
> > signs of life. There's a trend to build "liveable communities," but
> > that's only for the trendy.
>
> > The rest live in the desert.
>

> From the Sopranos it seems as if there is no kind of traditional land
> use in New Jersey, no cities, no towns, no country, just gobbets of
> housing, what remains of industry and nothing in particular scattered in
> amongst each other. Is this the future?

I think the American sprawl shows the power of the Real Estate
Industry and the Automobile Industry while the engineers just a lend a
hand in the execution. They have done a poor job at creating liveable
communities. The supreme monument to stupidity (or evil, whatever your
take) is to create a bicycle infrastructure that exposes the innocent
cyclist to greater danger.

And, of course, they can claim they are creating space for bikes.
Another PR campaign.

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<8a2180f4-aa49-4b46...@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

<thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > > > > The sprawl atomizes people (what a fantastic word). People are
> > > > > naturally SOCIAL until they get behind the wheel of the automobile.
> > > > > The only friendly vehicle that could traverse a city (another nice
> > > > > word) without destroying communities is the bicycle. Public
> > > > > transportation too, but that requires some burning of gas and a lot of
> > > > > patience in a spread out city. Buses can't really adapt to your route
> > > > > as well.
> >
> > > > Petrophobe?
> >
> > > Not only that, it's also the stupidity of the car. I ain't handicap,
> > > you know. I want to be independent and free --off the grid whenever
> > > possible.
> >
> > > Ah, and I don't want to feed the bankers, doctors and the lawyers.
> >
> > Petrophobe.
>
> No more than you are electrophobe.
>
> Little electric cars are ready to take the communities by storm:
>
> http://www.ideal-living.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/nevs_1.jpg
>
> We'll be enjoying life once again. Electric bikes are all the rage
> too. We just need space.

You realize that plug-in electric cars are run on coal, right?

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<cfa1f6de-d69e-4860...@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

<thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From the Sopranos it seems as if there is no kind of traditional land
> > use in New Jersey, no cities, no towns, no country, just gobbets of
> > housing, what remains of industry and nothing in particular scattered in
> > amongst each other. Is this the future?
>
> I think the American sprawl shows the power of the Real Estate
> Industry and the Automobile Industry while the engineers just a lend a
> hand in the execution. They have done a poor job at creating liveable
> communities. The supreme monument to stupidity (or evil, whatever your
> take) is to create a bicycle infrastructure that exposes the innocent
> cyclist to greater danger.
>
> And, of course, they can claim they are creating space for bikes.
> Another PR campaign.

For all the American sprawl, only 7% of the land in the US is developed
(according to the Dept. of the Interior).

There are vast areas of land where you can go, where you needn't
complain about a "real estate industry" or an "automobile industry" or
some nebulous "they" who've "done a poor job" at making you happy and
comfortable in the manner you seem to expect.

[Sid9]

"Neolibertarian" <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:kmhh2p$hj2$1...@dont-email.me...

Study: The coal industry is in far more trouble than anyone realizes
Posted by Brad Plumer on April 8, 2013 at 4:28 pm

Here�s some bleak news for the coal industry: As much as 65 percent of the
U.S. coal fleet could find itself under threat in the years ahead, thanks to
cheap natural gas and stricter air-pollution regulations.

That�s according to a new peer-reviewed study by three researchers at Duke�s
Nicholas School of the Environment, who take a detailed look at the costs of
operating both coal-fired power plants and natural-gas plants around the
United States.

Their conclusion? Coal power is far more economically vulnerable than most
analysts have realized to date. Here�s why:........


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/08/study-the-coal-industry-is-in-far-more-trouble-than-anyone-realizes/

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Eco-Socialists are clueless....


What will they do when there's rolling black outs and a shortage of
electricity?


With Socialist Obama you can build a coal plant but it will necessarily
bankrupt them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLgnCRVHkD8


I hope you Liberals like to walk to work.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 9, 9:08 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <8a2180f4-aa49-4b46-9a15-d55fb4628...@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

But they could run on wind, solar or nuclear power as well, right?

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 9, 9:18 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <cfa1f6de-d69e-4860-91c9-bc5f7f76e...@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

I thought the last Americans to be "off the grid" were the Indians and
they were placed in reservations, so now they are fat and dumb as
well.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 10, 12:56 pm, BeamMeUpScotty

<ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> On 5/9/2013 9:08 PM, Neolibertarian wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article

> > <8a2180f4-aa49-4b46-9a15-d55fb4628...@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

> >  "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

I just want to have the option to ride a bike in my community and
promote some FRUGALITY. Even Bush admitted we are "addicted to oil."

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/10/2013 2:23 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Wind and solar is 2% and Nuclear which has been stopped dead in it's
tracks for more than 30 years is only 20% and no increase in sight.....


So the answer is NO. they can't run on any of those because they are
already insufficient to run the grid without electric cars.



There would have to be an increase in generating capacity and thus far
it isn't near enough.


since it will consume electric energy to plug cars in, you
ECO-Socialists might want to ban electric cars until after you have the
capacity to charge them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLgnCRVHkD8

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/10/2013 2:27 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Promote a viable alternative.....


Why is it that Liberal-Socialists say austerity in spending bad but
austerity in fossil energy is good?



I can give practical alternatives to spending huge sums of TAX money can
you give any practical alternatives to burning fossil fuels?






*Rumination*
#72 - What if your next abortion is the one fetus that would evolve into
a new human adult life that is immune to cancer? When is evolution NOT
really evolution.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/10/2013 2:25 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

NO that's wrong.....


The Amish are last.


--


*Rumination*
#41 - When we lived under a constitution we were a Nation of LAWS.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/10/2013 3:20 PM, Denny wrote:
> "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

> <comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> On May 9, 9:08=A0pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <8a2180f4-aa49-4b46-9a15-d55fb4628...@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

>>> =A0"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> =A0<thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> The sprawl atomizes people (what a fantastic word). People
>>>>>>>> are naturally SOCIAL until they get behind the wheel of the

>>>>>>>> automob=

>> ile.
>>>>>>>> The only friendly vehicle that could traverse a city (another

>>>>>>>> n=

>> ice
>>>>>>>> word) without destroying communities is the bicycle. Public
>>>>>>>> transportation too, but that requires some burning of gas and

>>>>>>>> a=

>> lot of
>>>>>>>> patience in a spread out city. Buses can't really adapt to

>>>>>>>> your=

>> route
>>>>>>>> as well.
>>>
>>>>>>> Petrophobe?
>>>
>>>>>> Not only that, it's also the stupidity of the car. I ain't

>>>>>> handicap=

>> ,
>>>>>> you know. I want to be independent and free --off the grid
>>>>>> whenever possible.
>>>
>>>>>> Ah, and I don't want to feed the bankers, doctors and the
>>>>>> lawyers.
>>>
>>>>> Petrophobe.
>>>
>>>> No more than you are electrophobe.
>>>
>>>> Little electric cars are ready to take the communities by storm:
>>>
>>>> http://www.ideal-living.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/nevs_1.jpg
>>>
>>>> We'll be enjoying life once again. Electric bikes are all the rage
>>>> too. We just need space.
>>>
>>> You realize that plug-in electric cars are run on coal, right?
>>
>> But they could run on wind, solar or nuclear power as well, right?
>

> The computer I'm in front of right now is powered by a nuclear power
> station. Nice and clean.
>
That leaves 80% that is powered by fossil and 2% by solar/wind and a
tiny bit of hydro.

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<19af73f3-51c2-4869...@j4g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

<comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >  <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >  From the Sopranos it seems as if there is no kind of traditional land
> > > > use in New Jersey, no cities, no towns, no country, just gobbets of
> > > > housing, what remains of industry and nothing in particular scattered in
> > > > amongst each other.  Is this the future?
> >
> > > I think the American sprawl shows the power of the Real Estate
> > > Industry and the Automobile Industry while the engineers just a lend a
> > > hand in the execution. They have done a poor job at creating liveable
> > > communities. The supreme monument to stupidity (or evil, whatever your
> > > take) is to create a bicycle infrastructure that exposes the innocent
> > > cyclist to greater danger.
> >
> > > And, of course, they can claim they are creating space for bikes.
> > > Another PR campaign.
> >
> > For all the American sprawl, only 7% of the land in the US is developed
> > (according to the Dept. of the Interior).
> >
> > There are vast areas of land where you can go, where you needn't
> > complain about a "real estate industry" or an "automobile industry" or
> > some nebulous "they" who've "done a poor job" at making you happy and
> > comfortable in the manner you seem to expect.
>
> I thought the last Americans to be "off the grid" were the Indians and
> they were placed in reservations, so now they are fat and dumb as
> well.

Haven't ever been to a Reservation, have you?

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<3bd546da-795f-4d08...@h13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

Wind generators won't help; they can't even begin to keep up (it's not
their fault, it's just physics).

Nuclear power in the United States is financially unsustainable, on
purpose. It cannot exist without heavy subsidies.

Carter signed an Executive Order in the late 70's eliminating nuclear
breeder plants--kinda like an anti-Atoms for Peace program...at least
for the United States. Suffice it to say you won't want to expand your
power grid with nuclear, and probably couldn't do so anyway.

That pretty much leaves you with coal, oil and natural gas if you want
to expand the grid to make room for your inefficient plug-in electric
cars.

Since the coal industry is being deliberately bankrupted by the US
government, that pretty much leaves you with oil and natural gas.

Luckily, there's more available than you can possibly imagine. A report
just came out last week concluding that the Bakken Formation (N. Dakota)
holds twice as much oil and gas as previously estimated.

The only question at this point is how long before oil production is
thwarted by your suicidal heroes.

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<d500311e-dbb6-4c5b...@d6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

The Dubya isn't a geologist, nor an economist. He's just an affable
populist bureaucrat like his father.

No one's "addicted" to oil, even though, believe it or not, you and I
actually bathe in the stuff every day.

We're definitely /dependent/ upon oil.

And when I write "we," I'm not just referring to We the People. The
entire world is dependent upon oil.

Oil = eat.

That's the cold equation you can ignore only at your own very real peril.

There is about the same number of malnourished people on the earth today
as there were in 1968 (when there were only about 3 billion of us).

There should be more than twice as many starving people on earth today
as there were when Ehrlich published /The Population Bomb/. We should
be eating Soylent Green every Wednesday by now. And yet there are more
well-fed people than ever before. Obesity is actually a problem among
American POOR people, for crying out loud.

Why?

Because of the joules, of course.

Take away the joules, and you're a murderer. Take away the joules and
you could try to deny that you're a murderer, but we'd all know better.

"Green energy" are the most dangerous two words in the vocabulary of man.

[Neolibertarian]

In article <kmhidt$oi5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net>
wrote:

> Here�s some bleak news for the coal industry: As much as 65 percent of the

> U.S. coal fleet could find itself under threat in the years ahead, thanks to
> cheap natural gas and stricter air-pollution regulations.
>

> That�s according to a new peer-reviewed study by three researchers at Duke�s

> Nicholas School of the Environment, who take a detailed look at the costs of
> operating both coal-fired power plants and natural-gas plants around the
> United States.
>
> Their conclusion? Coal power is far more economically vulnerable than most

> analysts have realized to date. Here�s why:........
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/08/study-the-coal-indu
> stry-is-in-far-more-trouble-than-anyone-realizes/

Duh. One of President Obama's few fulfilled campaign promises (from back
in 2008).

Why did you imagine this relevant?

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 10, 2:32 pm, BeamMeUpScotty

Again you miss your opportunity to look smart. An ELECTRIC BICYCLE
uses a trickle of electricity for what it does. It takes you around
and still allows you to do some pedaling (exercise). Are you trying to
tell me that a car is the best option to go around in my community?

The car killed the community.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 10, 2:51 pm, BeamMeUpScotty

I see those RED LIGHT CAMERAS flashing all the time... Where's that
money going? No, before I raise taxes I would check into the money
that simply "disappears."

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 10, 3:20 pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > On May 9, 9:08=A0pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <8a2180f4-aa49-4b46-9a15-d55fb4628...@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

> > > =A0"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

>
> > > =A0<thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > The sprawl atomizes people (what a fantastic word). People
> > > > > > > > are naturally SOCIAL until they get behind the wheel of the

> > > > > > > > automob=

> > ile.
> > > > > > > > The only friendly vehicle that could traverse a city (another

> > > > > > > > n=

> > ice
> > > > > > > > word) without destroying communities is the bicycle. Public
> > > > > > > > transportation too, but that requires some burning of gas and

> > > > > > > > a=

> >  lot of
> > > > > > > > patience in a spread out city. Buses can't really adapt to

> > > > > > > > your=

> >  route
> > > > > > > > as well.
>
> > > > > > > Petrophobe?
>
> > > > > > Not only that, it's also the stupidity of the car. I ain't

> > > > > > handicap=

> > ,
> > > > > > you know. I want to be independent and free --off the grid
> > > > > > whenever possible.
>
> > > > > > Ah, and I don't want to feed the bankers, doctors and the
> > > > > > lawyers.
>
> > > > > Petrophobe.
>
> > > > No more than you are electrophobe.
>
> > > > Little electric cars are ready to take the communities by storm:
>
> > > >http://www.ideal-living.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/nevs_1.jpg
>
> > > > We'll be enjoying life once again. Electric bikes are all the rage
> > > > too. We just need space.
>
> > > You realize that plug-in electric cars are run on coal, right?
>
> > But they could run on wind, solar or nuclear power as well, right?
>

> The computer I'm in front of right now is powered by a nuclear power
> station. Nice and clean.

True, but an electric car takes a bigger chunk of power. You can make
your laptop run on a solar panel. Check into Amazon.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 10, 6:43 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <19af73f3-51c2-4869-b08a-f402bb71f...@j4g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,

Why, are they still riding horses through the prairies?

I thought they drove a car like the rest of us. No need to hunt
anymore. Same obesity rates, maybe worse.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 10, 7:44 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <d500311e-dbb6-4c5b-9d86-5d28777c7...@d6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,

You must double check the meaning of "addiction." It means "abuse"
rather than "use." There's absolute waste around here, including the
beach path that has excessive lighting for over 12 hours each night.
Nobody thinks of "switching off the lights."

Then you come around and complain about the government waste. That's
funny, ain't it?

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<26dac0fe-5da5-41b7...@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey,

> >

> > > > For all the American sprawl, only 7% of the land in the US is developed
> > > > (according to the Dept. of the Interior).
> >
> > > > There are vast areas of land where you can go, where you needn't
> > > > complain about a "real estate industry" or an "automobile industry" or
> > > > some nebulous "they" who've "done a poor job" at making you happy and
> > > > comfortable in the manner you seem to expect.
> >
> > > I thought the last Americans to be "off the grid" were the Indians and
> > > they were placed in reservations, so now they are fat and dumb as
> > > well.
> >
> > Haven't ever been to a Reservation, have you?
>
> Why, are they still riding horses through the prairies?
>
> I thought they drove a car like the rest of us. No need to hunt
> anymore. Same obesity rates, maybe worse.

Infant mortality on reservations is about 5 times what it is for the
rest of the US. At some reservations the life expectancy is 47 for males
and 52 for females. Unemployment is as high as 85%. About half of the
populations on reservations live below the federal poverty level. Many
families have no electricity (for your electric bike), no telephones,
running water or even sewage systems. At Pine Ridge Reservation, 50% of
the population has diabetes. Alcoholism and drug abuse are rampant,
malnutrition widespread, depression and suicide rates are alarmingly
high.

So, obviously, no; you've never been to a Reservation.

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<66cd91c3-7119-4766...@e13g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

American Heritage Medical Dictionary:
n.
"Habitual psychological and physiological dependence on a substance
or practice beyond one's voluntary control."

If there's a "beach path" that leaves lights on all night...well, that
might seem excessive to you, but to a young woman, especially if
unescorted, this can be a warm comfort.

>
> Then you come around and complain about the government waste. That's
> funny, ain't it?

My guess is that those "beach path lights" were installed and paid for
by the local municipality.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/11/2013 9:42 AM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Retirement accounts and Union pay checks for government employees and
you aren't taking any of that from the unions or their government parasites.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 11, 12:15 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <26dac0fe-5da5-41b7-82c3-09a1cc72b...@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

Why, do I need to be to a reservation to confirm what I know?

It proves my point that you can't remove man's capacity to ROAM FREE
and expect him to be happy. The Indians are unhappy.

A horse is not practical anymore but a bicycle is --except for hills
and bad weather. In NYC the situation is such that walking remains a
viable option, perhaps more so than biking. And their public
transportation is way better than in the rest of the country, where
obesity rates and depression seems to be the norm.

Incidentally they are starting a bike sharing program in that city so
the jury is out. Anyway the solution is MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION,
instead of car monopoly. THE REVOLUTION IS ABOUT SOLUTIONS.

Thus I have spoken.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 11, 12:28 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <66cd91c3-7119-4766-b597-fc1c806d4...@e13g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,

Have you considered the possibility that WASTE FEEDS CORRUPTION?

Just a thought. No democracy, no feedback from the people, no people
riding at night.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 12, 10:56 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

People are probably afraid of the "lighted tunnel" they are said to go
through when they die. But the Wise Man is not afraid of that. It's
all dark.

Thus spoke Zarathustra...

I just have the feeling of Zarathustra speaking through me:

"You have evolved from worm to man, but much within you is still worm.
Once you were apes, yet even now man is more of an ape than any of the
apes."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra

***

Who else needs the alpha leader as much as man? The monkeys still have
fun and groom each other once in a while. They are not willing to
sacrifice their jungle.

Thus spoke the TibetanMonkey.

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<b6ba8561-95f1-46d4...@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

<comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On May 12, 10:56 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
> Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On May 11, 12:28 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > My guess is that those "beach path lights" were installed and paid for
> > > by the local municipality.
> >
> > Have you considered the possibility that WASTE FEEDS CORRUPTION?
> >
> > Just a thought. No democracy, no feedback from the people, no people
> > riding at night.
>
> People are probably afraid of the "lighted tunnel" they are said to go
> through when they die. But the Wise Man is not afraid of that. It's
> all dark.
>
> Thus spoke Zarathustra...
>
> I just have the feeling of Zarathustra speaking through me:
>
> "You have evolved from worm to man, but much within you is still worm.
> Once you were apes, yet even now man is more of an ape than any of the
> apes."
> -- Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra
>
> ***
>
> Who else needs the alpha leader as much as man?

Man needs God, of course. No one more than Nietzsche.

Man only gets in trouble when he looks for an "alpha leader" among his
own kind.

But then, man is the monkey who loves trouble.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 12, 10:32 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <b6ba8561-95f1-46d4-8240-92882cf04...@o2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

>  "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On May 12, 10:56 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
> > Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On May 11, 12:28 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > My guess is that those "beach path lights" were installed and paid for
> > > > by the local municipality.
>
> > > Have you considered the possibility that WASTE FEEDS CORRUPTION?
>
> > > Just a thought. No democracy, no feedback from the people, no people
> > > riding at night.
>
> > People are probably afraid of the "lighted tunnel" they are said to go
> > through when they die. But the Wise Man is not afraid of that. It's
> > all dark.
>
> > Thus spoke Zarathustra...
>
> > I just have the feeling of Zarathustra speaking through me:
>
> > "You have evolved from worm to man, but much within you is still worm.
> > Once you were apes, yet even now man is more of an ape than any of the
> > apes."
> > -- Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra
>
> > ***
>
> > Who else needs the alpha leader as much as man?
>
> Man needs God, of course. No one more than Nietzsche.

Why, the placebo effect? Bad news is better than good news that are
not realistic. Climate Change is a good example of that. The good news
is that we can walk or ride a bike to minimize its effect. Christians
expect Jesus to come and rescue the world from Satan. Who's Satan
anyway, Big Oil?

Avoiding reality may feel good for a while.

>
> Man only gets in trouble when he looks for an "alpha leader" among his
> own kind.

Nietzsche made mistakes, big ones. Superman is dead.

>
> But then, man is the monkey who loves trouble.

True. The only hope is in the Tablet, meaning the books and culture we
can get through that wonder of technology. The Nook was on sale this
weekend.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 13, 1:34 pm, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

The following is basically a monologue, no need for debate...

The TABLET may be the most important first step toward saving big
money and cleaning up the jungle. As the Nook allows us to borrow
books from the library without being exposed to the odors the homeless
and old books give out, I can see the library as a HOTPOT & E-BOOK
facility. The bathrooms, now a place for the homeless to wash
themselves, may finally close as the libraries themselves. Hey, many
of our parks have already closed their restrooms partially or totally
to avoid the homeless, so you must go behind the bushes yourself.
Maybe the two, libraries and parks, should close for good.

And this in turn can save big money to Obama's precarious budget.
Guess what, I'm enrolling in e-book borrowing, and this in turn may
avoid diseases often found in old books...

[NeoLibertarian]

On May 14, 11:51 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Man needs God.

God is there for man, He patiently waits for all of us to return home
for the feast; but God has also seen fit to give the monkeys what we
call "free will."

You're free to turn your back on God.

No skin off my nose, 'cept I'm responsible for you.

[His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

> > money and cleaning up thejungle. As the Nook allows us to borrow
> > books from the library withoutbeingexposed to the odors the homeless

> > and old books give out, I can see the library as a HOTPOT & E-BOOK
> > facility. The bathrooms, now a place for the homeless to wash
> > themselves, may finally close as the libraries themselves. Hey, many
> > of our parks have already closed their restrooms partially or totally
> > to avoid the homeless, so you must go behind the bushes yourself.
> > Maybe the two, libraries and parks, should close for good.
>
> > And this in turn can save big money to Obama's precarious budget.
> > Guess what, I'm enrolling in e-book borrowing, and this in turn may
> > avoid diseases often found in old books...
>
> Man needs God.
>
> God is there for man, He patiently waits for all of us to return home
> for the feast; but God has also seen fit to give the monkeys what we
> call "free will."
>
> You're free to turn your back on God.
>
> No skin off my nose, 'cept I'm responsible for you.

Actually there's no single individual god. There are MANY but they
ain't bothering with the monkeys destroying their environment due to
OVERPOPULATION & DEFORESTATION...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130102082353-easter-island-moai-horizontal-gallery.jpg

***

That's a metaphor not found in the Bible, for it commands the people
to "prosper and multiply," a recipe for disaster and war. It seems the
gods are made of stone or something.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 15, 12:07 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On May 15, 9:58 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On May 14, 11:27 pm, NeoLibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> > > > money and cleaning up thejungle. As the Nook allows us to borrow
> > > > books from the library withoutbeingexposed to the odors the homeless

> > > > and old books give out, I can see the library as a HOTPOT & E-BOOK
> > > > facility. The bathrooms, now a place for the homeless to wash
> > > > themselves, may finally close as the libraries themselves. Hey, many
> > > > of our parks have already closed their restrooms partially or totally
> > > > to avoid the homeless, so you must go behind the bushes yourself.
> > > > Maybe the two, libraries and parks, should close for good.
>
> > > > And this in turn can save big money to Obama's precarious budget.
> > > > Guess what, I'm enrolling in e-book borrowing, and this in turn may
> > > > avoid diseases often found in old books...
>
> > > Man needs God.
>
> > > God is there for man, He patiently waits for all of us to return home
> > > for the feast; but God has also seen fit to give the monkeys what we
> > > call "free will."
>
> > > You're free to turn your back on God.
>
> > > No skin off my nose, 'cept I'm responsible for you.
>

> > Actually there's no single individual god. There are MANY but they
> > ain't bothering with the monkeys destroying their environment due to
> > OVERPOPULATION & DEFORESTATION...
>

> >http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130102082353-easter-island-mo...

>
> > ***
>
> > That's a metaphor not found in the Bible, for it commands the people
> > to "prosper and multiply," a recipe for disaster and war. It seems the
> > gods are made of stone or something.
>

> you violated my freedom of speech... or in usenet terms... to post.

Sorry, the gods are made of stone or something. We only shape them and
carry them to the final destination. From the quarry to their resting
place...

You want a lion's body with a human head? Yes, we specialize in that.
We got 3 million slaves on standby. Maybe 300 millions. Whatever you
want. You want a god with wings or such as a millipede? You know, I
think god is a worm, not a roach. It would be hard to sell.

>
> pack your bags and wait to be escorted out.
>
> we, me and being, were making you look good monkey. we were
> translating for you into two languages that you forgot monkey... are
> you sure you are a monkey? because you are a mere "then" away from
> being dropped into a real monkey world.

The real make believe world? I'd be afraid of that.

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<94d3e15c-6047-4f10...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

<thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > > > Man needs God.
> >
> > > > God is there for man, He patiently waits for all of us to return home
> > > > for the feast; but God has also seen fit to give the monkeys what we
> > > > call "free will."
> >
> > > > You're free to turn your back on God.
> >
> > > > No skin off my nose, 'cept I'm responsible for you.
> >
> > > Actually there's no single individual god. There are MANY but they
> > > ain't bothering with the monkeys destroying their environment due to
> > > OVERPOPULATION & DEFORESTATION...

Did you know that there are fewer hungry people on earth today than
there were when there were only 3 billion of us?

Did you know there are over three times more trees in the US than there
were in 1918?

In other words: What overpopulation? What deforestation?
> >
> > >http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130102082353-easter-island-mo...

These are statues carved from rock by men.

These are "gods you do not know."

> > > That's a metaphor not found in the Bible, for it commands the people
> > > to "prosper and multiply," a recipe for disaster and war. It seems the
> > > gods are made of stone or something.
> >
> > you violated my freedom of speech... or in usenet terms... to post.
>
> Sorry, the gods are made of stone or something. We only shape them and
> carry them to the final destination. From the quarry to their resting
> place...

No.../we/ don't.

>
> You want a lion's body with a human head? Yes, we specialize in that.
> We got 3 million slaves on standby. Maybe 300 millions. Whatever you
> want. You want a god with wings or such as a millipede? You know, I
> think god is a worm, not a roach. It would be hard to sell.

You're a slave, regardless.

>
> >
> > pack your bags and wait to be escorted out.
> >
> > we, me and being, were making you look good monkey. we were
> > translating for you into two languages that you forgot monkey... are
> > you sure you are a monkey? because you are a mere "then" away from
> > being dropped into a real monkey world.
>
> The real make believe world? I'd be afraid of that.

Usenet?

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 15, 11:09 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <94d3e15c-6047-4f10-bce5-88c5eecf6...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,

>  "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"
>

>  <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Man needs God.
>
> > > > > God is there for man, He patiently waits for all of us to return home
> > > > > for the feast; but God has also seen fit to give the monkeys what we
> > > > > call "free will."
>
> > > > > You're free to turn your back on God.
>
> > > > > No skin off my nose, 'cept I'm responsible for you.
>
> > > > Actually there's no single individual god. There are MANY but they
> > > > ain't bothering with the monkeys destroying their environment due to
> > > > OVERPOPULATION & DEFORESTATION...
>
> Did you know that there are fewer hungry people on earth today than
> there were when there were only 3 billion of us?
>
> Did you know there are over three times more trees in the US than there
> were in 1918?
>
> In other words: What overpopulation? What deforestation?

Oh wait, you are not going to do like the Christians, right? Burying
your head in the sand won't help. Look at Haiti. That's coming to a
theater near you. And the admission will be free.

>
>
>
> > > >http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130102082353-easter-island-mo...
>
> These are statues carved from rock by men.
>
> These are "gods you do not know."

I don't know a god that I know. All gods are make believe.

>
> > > > That's a metaphor not found in the Bible, for it commands the people
> > > > to "prosper and multiply," a recipe for disaster and war. It seems the
> > > > gods are made of stone or something.
>
> > > you violated my freedom of speech... or in usenet terms... to post.
>
> > Sorry, the gods are made of stone or something. We only shape them and
> > carry them to the final destination. From the quarry to their resting
> > place...
>
> No.../we/ don't.

Oh common, all churches are in honor of our gods. They are everywhere.
We worship them and ignore reality. As you say, we need the gods. I
said plural, no god is better than other, though we are led to believe
so.

>
>
>
> > You want a lion's body with a human head? Yes, we specialize in that.
> > We got 3 million slaves on standby. Maybe 300 millions. Whatever you
> > want. You want a god with wings or such as a millipede? You know, I
> > think god is a worm, not a roach. It would be hard to sell.
>
> You're a slave, regardless.

Slave to the pursuit of happiness? Well, in a way, yes. But this is
sort of a mental challenge as well. I'm happy to be black sheep. Maybe
we can make life better for those slaves who labor in the big pyramids
of our time. I mean slaves who are not doing something practical such
as bike facilities or fast trains. Slaves in China are putting
together phones and tablets and that's highly appreciated, so we can
have them cheap.

>
>
>
> > > pack your bags and wait to be escorted out.
>

> > > we, me andbeing, were making you look good monkey. we were

> > > translating for you into two languages that you forgot monkey... are
> > > you sure you are a monkey? because you are a mere "then" away from

> > >beingdropped into a real monkey world.

>
> > The real make believe world? I'd be afraid of that.
>
> Usenet?

I thought of TV more than Usenet. You may dig up the truth here and
tell camouflage from reality. We are the hunters here.

I may as well recycle the following piece of wisdom:

On May 15, 4:53 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On May 15, 12:33 pm, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

>
> Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The real make believe world? I'd be afraid of that.
>

> i know. will has too much of a role... to play.

Well, the make believe world is the one portrayed by the Media and
Hollywood.

The real world is the one you face on bike or foot.

I guess that's too deep. Well, I'm sure you know what I mean. People
also try to imagine a make believe Heaven, just to feel good. Of
course, the job of the philosopher is to expose the real world.

He must rely on his binoculars sometimes to see what's going on...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SN04VtanXHA/UL4DmjgWAMI/AAAAAAAAIeA/h9JMtWhDcFU/s1600/Predator+and+Prey+Friendships+image.jpg

That's the make believe world.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 16, 12:44 am, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:09:04 -0500, Neolibertarian

>
> <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Did you know there are over three times more trees in the US than there
> >were in 1918?
>

> Did you know that by 1930---loonytarianism was a failed, discredited,
> and laughable 'ism"?

According to the latest polls in this area, there are more trees
standing now that in the aftermath of the last hurricane --even though
it only was a category 3. Amazing, simply amazing.

It ain't a pretty picture for the rest of the world though:

Deforestation Facts and Figures - A Global Perspective

The statistical data on deforestation reveal that seven countries of
the world amount to around 60 percent of the total deforestation on
the planet. These seven countries include Brazil in Latin America,
Canada and the United States in North America, Indonesia and China in
Asia, Russia in Europe and the Democratic Republic of Congo in Africa.
The data compiled by the World Resources Institute reveals that the
planet has already lost 80 percent of its forest cover to
deforestation, and going by the alarming rate at which the trees are
being cut, it won't take much time for that figure to reach the 100
percent mark.

Read more at Buzzle: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/deforestation-statistics.html

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 16, 11:21 am, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On May 16, 9:08 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
>
> Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> that didn't take long monkey... are you employed? or just wasting your
> masters hard earned cash? no wait... you are a lobbiest...

Philosophers and prophets don't work. They participate in the guidance
of the world in a full time manner. Pay is nil but the reward is
great.

Think of Socrates. He had his dosis of cicuta and woke up in the other
world. The Muses received him and he was entertained forever. Nothing
can be more rewarding.

>
> > You know, I got bad news for you. Canada is grouped together with
> > Congo in this sad statistics. At this rate you may have to adapt a
> > polar bear soon. Where are they going to hide? Will they join
> > civilization?
>
> tut... tut... Jewboy... economy is the new score board and the anna-
> rachael is still floating... still fighting... still kicking ass...
> the US is getting raped by the world bitch... now, shut the fuck up
> before i whip your entertainment economy... ballywood... because it is
> due to little tiny rat shit like you, a little tiny monkey fly... that
> i decide to make big devastating, destructive and irreversible
> changes...
>
> you see monkey... where do you think you would find me... talking to
> bam bam and harper? to get from them a picture of what i can do to
> help? but in the end, if the people themselves are bought, sold and
> fixed on a determined outcome (even if you do not know what it means
> thus i only serve as an a posteriori feature... too late)... then i
> really see no reason in stopping your world one moment longer...
>
> i mean look at how pathetic a pig you really are Jew... your war is
> about taking back a throne you never had... hahaha... and here you are
> talking shit words like revolution... war of the classes... bikes vs.
> SUVs... hahaha... and you think if it happens, it will be your
> crown... your head... hahaha...

You fail to understand that disease has spread beyond the Jews. Now we
are all infected! Greed is the way to go in the future.

>
> > Deforestation Facts and Figures - A Global Perspective
>

> LIES! LIES! THERE IS NO FUCKING EVIDENCE ANYWHERE THAT THIS IS A FACT!
> we need more time to study the situation before we can draw a
> sufficient determination which will them be handed off to the
> committee... who will after due process, determine a sub committee,
> who will them appoint a task force... hahahaha... we will get back to
> you hopefull by 2017...
>
> Lucifer

Is it a bipartisan commission or another Republican trick to slow down
the Democrats? At times it sounds like God and Satan with their
armies. We know one side is evil, but we are not sure who's who.

Well, we need consensus to resolve anything, which means we won't
resolve anything. The issues are passed down to future generations.
Let them figure them out.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 16, 12:14 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On May 16, 9:38 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

>
> Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Philosophers and prophets don't work. They participate in the guidance
> > of the world in a full time manner. Pay is nil but the reward is
> > great.
>

> you are crazy. i mean it dude, out of control insane. spaceman stuff.
> do yourself a favor before your delusion comes crashing in. get some
> help. get some meds. get yourself checked in.

No philosopher or musician is sane. Take for example this "madman"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDsx7XA-W54

Do you think we should celebrate the Revolution with that? Is it
becoming too worn out? We had our hopes high when the Berlin Wall
fell, and see what happens. I think it's gotten worse, right? It's
like communism was a balance to the worse excesses of capitalism. Now
we have walls (gated communities) everywhere.

Well, we better change the rhythm with the Banana Revolution...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuH9JRetATA

>
> > Think of Socrates. He had his dosis of cicuta and woke up in the other
> > world. The Muses received him and he was entertained forever. Nothing
> > can be more rewarding.
>

> how did he die again? too much love? so now you are socrates huh? tell
> me. tell us. one thing that socrates said. no looking. one
> philosophical mechanism.

Look for my new title, "most humble philosopher," and you'll see the
tradition is still alive.

>
> of course we can not control that. googling. this is not real.
> consider that if you ever get as unlucky as you are to get into a face
> to face when all your marbles are the anti for a gmae that is not
> random. no chance.

Google or no Google, that's the question. Yes, I Google. Who doesn't?
At least I get it right every time, that's the bottom line.

>
> > You fail to understand that disease has spread beyond the Jews. Now we
> > are all infected! Greed is the way to go in the future.
>

> yes. thank you. disease. plague. infection. or the anti-bodies. the
> cure for an illness on the scale of a greater living body getting rid
> of a virus that has become feverish. of course it might feel more like
> taking a shit. you will never know.

You must have been close to an infected person. Now you believe you
need a loan and lawyer to live. No, it ain't necessary. Remember the
philosopher needs only flip flops even as the streets are dangerous to
bikes. Beware of the Jewish lawyer.

>
> > Is it a bipartisan commission or another Republican trick to slow down
> > the Democrats? At times it sounds like God and Satan with their
> > armies. We know one side is evil, but we are not sure who's who.
>

> lol. communism has good points. taxation is a facit of communism. you
> whine about taxes. communism is about exploiting the poor. seems to me
> it is working just fine. all that foreign work. out sourcing and in
> sourcing workers because you americans are lazy. if you recall, was it
> not the republicans that made those blunders? the republicans, as they
> appear today, represent the american union yes? something fishy
> monkey. i think there is a mole.

It's been a sleight of hand. That's something every magician can do.
Communism is not really dead. Now it lives in capitalism. The two
systems will become one eventually and the democratic game will be
exposed. The system with the most control and the cheapest labor wins.
Perhaps Venezuela is the way to go. Of course, only the Banana
Revolution can deliver.

>
> > Well, we need consensus to resolve anything, which means we won't
> > resolve anything. The issues are passed down to future generations.
> > Let them figure them out.
>

> nice try. but i have lived the 100 year world from now. this is the
> generation that is responsible. this is the generation that is
> starting to panic. this is the generation that chose to do nothing
> about it. que sera sera... i am will be. here now.
>
> Lucifer

This generation is responsible? I think we need a few names to pay for
all. Where's the Guillotine?

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 16, 8:09 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 16 May, 14:29, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

>
> Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This generation is responsible? I think we need a few names to pay for
> > all. Where's the Guillotine?
>

> funny you should think so.

Well, the democratic process somehow makes the people appear guilty
but it's only through a long process of lies and manipulation. For
example, the questioning of climate change is an American phenomenon,
not easily found, say, in Germany or France. Same thing can be said
about the invasion or Iraq. People voted for it, but it wasn't like
they had an honest media.

I'm reading a book about the "1%," so may have some idea what I'm
getting at. Now it's all clear in my mind who to blame. Still some
people blame Obama. Oh common, we are talking about the puppeteers
here.

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<85820538-9182-42d5...@r3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

<comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >
> > Did you know that there are fewer hungry people on earth today than
> > there were when there were only 3 billion of us?
> >
> > Did you know there are over three times more trees in the US than there
> > were in 1918?
> >
> > In other words: What overpopulation? What deforestation?
>
> Oh wait, you are not going to do like the Christians, right? Burying
> your head in the sand won't help.

Ever hear of the Simon-Ehrlich Wager? No, I didn't think so.

Consider this:

In 1968 there were about 3.5 billion humans on earth. About 900 million
were malnourished or starving. Everyone else was well-fed.

In 2013, there are about 7 billion humans on earth. About 900 million
are malnourished or starving. Everyone else is more well-fed than at any
time in man's history. Obesity has actually become an ailment of the
/poor/, for crying out loud.

It turns out that Paul Ehrlich is the hysterical lunatic who has his
head in the sand--not Julian Simon.

There's no data supporting the dark visions you hold as fact. I know you
believe there is, but you couldn't go fetch it, even were you actually
interested enough to make the effort. It doesn't exist.

In the end, you're merely repeating something you thought you heard. A
dreary fantasy you use to excuse yourself from judgement.

You think resources /should/ be running out; that the earth is
dangerously overcrowded and mankind is doomed to disaster, so it
therefore /must/ be so.

Okay, I'm game. My fantasies aren't hardened. I'm willing to learn. Show
me your proof.

> Look at Haiti. That's coming to a
> theater near you. And the admission will be free.
> >

Haiti is an example in point.

The primary fruit of industrialization is lower death rates and a
healthier, longer-lived populace. You distribute the fruits of
industrialization to non-industrialized cultures at their peril.

Doctors Without Borders may be the most cruel and monstrous organization
ever to exist.

Except that it's not. It's just time for man to wake up, that's all. To
grow up finally.

Like he hasn't been hitting the snooze alarm for centuries.
> >
> > > > >http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130102082353-easter-island-mo..

> > > > >.
> >
> > These are statues carved from rock by men.
> >
> > These are "gods you do not know."
>
> I don't know a god that I know. All gods are make believe.
>

I know who told you that. The one who told you that very much exists,
too.

> > > > > That's a metaphor not found in the Bible, for it commands the people
> > > > > to "prosper and multiply," a recipe for disaster and war. It seems
> > > > > the
> > > > > gods are made of stone or something.
> >
> > > > you violated my freedom of speech... or in usenet terms... to post.
> >
> > > Sorry, the gods are made of stone or something. We only shape them and
> > > carry them to the final destination. From the quarry to their resting
> > > place...
> >
> > No.../we/ don't.
>
> Oh common, all churches are in honor of our gods.

Well, we know /that's/ not true at all. Many churches exist only to
honor their priests.

> They are everywhere.
> We worship them and ignore reality.

God is everywhere, yes.

For instance, He's there when bombs go off at the finish line, limbs and
flesh and children flying through the air. He's there when a tsunami
crashes ashore and sweeps 250,000 screaming-gurgling people out to sea.

He's there at the bar when you slip off your wedding ring before the
cute blonde down at the end notices. He's there when you lose your
house, your wife divorces you, and He's there when you try to call your
kids on the phone for their birthday and they hang up on you. He's next
to you when you're stealing pens and printer paper from work. He's there
when you walk by the homeless guy on the street, ignoring him.

He's even with you, right behind your shoulder in fact, when you type
out nonsense about God, and your inability to perceive Him.

> As you say, we need the gods.

I never said any such thing. Ever.

I said man needs God. You need God. I wouldn't have even brought it up,
it's just that I'm responsible for you.

> I
> said plural, no god is better than other, though we are led to believe
> so.
> >

Now you sound like the jews. Even those alive to witness the miracles of
the Exodus went back to worshipping Ba'al a month later. You know; it
doesn't matter /who/ delivered me from my chains, "one god is as good as
another."

They were even worse with Yeshua.

Don't think for a moment I'm anti Semitic. I'm a Messianic Jew.

> >
> > > You want a lion's body with a human head? Yes, we specialize in that.
> > > We got 3 million slaves on standby. Maybe 300 millions. Whatever you
> > > want. You want a god with wings or such as a millipede? You know, I
> > > think god is a worm, not a roach. It would be hard to sell.
> >
> > You're a slave, regardless.
>
> Slave to the pursuit of happiness?

Most monkeys don't know happiness. Few can find a path that leads to it,
because there are so damned many paths that seem to but don't. Fewer
still ever know what it is when they find it.

Shalom doesn't just mean peace. I happen to know it's shalom you're
seeking.

> Well, in a way, yes. But this is
> sort of a mental challenge as well.

You're a slave to your flesh; a very poor master to have.

He gives you precious little for your enthusiastic devotion to him, and
when he's done with you, you'll be discarded like yesterday's trash...or
worse. First he'll horribly disfigure you. Take the color from your
hair, then take your hair, and twist your face beyond recognition.

He'll make beautiful young people wince when they look at you, if they
look at you at all. He'll make young people laugh at you if you pretend
to still be young. And if you somehow beat the odds and hang on long
enough, he'll send you to a chamber of horrors filled bed pans,
disinterested nurses, nuclear radiation and chemotherapy.

> I'm happy to be black sheep. Maybe
> we can make life better for those slaves who labor in the big pyramids
> of our time. I mean slaves who are not doing something practical such
> as bike facilities or fast trains.

Bikes and fast passenger trains don't feed you.

Trucks, freight trains, oil rigs, tankers, coal mines, cargo ships,
foundries, factories; those who have the dirt under their fingernails,
they're the ones who make your life wonder-filled and care-free.

Take your example of New York City, for instance. 8 million living in
the five boroughs. Millions piled on top of millions piled on top of
millions, living in each others' laps. Traveling on the surface,
traveling underground, traveling in the air. All the monkeys turn on
their air conditioners at 6:00 pm. All go out to a movie and dinner at
the same time. Park at Yankees Stadium at once. All arrive at Madison
Square Garden for the Knicks game minutes before tip off.

Yet there's water when you open the faucet. Electricity when you flip
the switch. You go down to the corner grocery store and there's a loaf
of bread waiting for you on the shelf. Stop by the pub on the way home,
and there's ice cold beer ready for you when you order it from the
bartender. As many as you like. Nobody ever runs out of anything.

By some mystery, by some completely unlikely miracle, there's just
enough of everything you need, and it's always there when you need it.

That's practicality.

You've told us here in this thread that you loathe practicality. You
hate it, in fact.

So, why pretend you want "something practical"?

Who're you fooling'?

> Slaves in China are putting
> together phones and tablets and that's highly appreciated, so we can
> have them cheap.
> >

Win-win, if you're to avoid a worldwide Haiti.

> >
> > > > pack your bags and wait to be escorted out.
> >
> > > > we, me andbeing, were making you look good monkey. we were
> > > > translating for you into two languages that you forgot monkey... are
> > > > you sure you are a monkey? because you are a mere "then" away from
> > > >beingdropped into a real monkey world.
> >
> > > The real make believe world? I'd be afraid of that.
> >
> > Usenet?
>
> I thought of TV more than Usenet. You may dig up the truth here and
> tell camouflage from reality. We are the hunters here.

Son, in order to hunt, you must first be able to put your paws on a
weapon that /works/.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 16, 9:19 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <85820538-9182-42d5-93ad-ab42000db...@r3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

>  "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"
>

OK, I shall proceed to provide proof while trimming this long post for
the benefit of the reader. Yes, it's all for the reader. That's not
the average idiot who watches the Fox news. It's a discerning,
cultured, unbiased, enlightened being who can say I'm right.

Anyway here are the facts:

15 Depressing Facts About The Coming Water Crisis

"America must spend $255 billion in the next five years to prevent
deterioration of water infrastructure. We plan to spend half that
amount."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/15-facts-about-the-coming-water-crisis-2010-3?op=1#ixzz2TZMI7guv

Oh gee, we are deep shit! They are rather pouring money down the drain
in "beautifying cities" with wild grass. It took a lot of labor and
inconvenience to create those corner triangles where the grass grows
wild and the water gets stuck and breeds mosquitoes.

But water, there's little plan for clean water. I bet you the average
Christian hasn't even heard about "water crisis." They just endorse
the Africans having as many kids as they can. It's all in Bible,
"multiply and conquer." Why should you worry about the future. God got
everything under control.

Water scarcity may be good for PREDATORY CAPITALISM (those who sell
bottled water, etc), but not for the Wise Man with unbiased and
enlightened opinion.

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<e8275c5d-0692-49fe...@s18g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

<comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >
> > In the end, you're merely repeating something you thought you heard. A
> > dreary fantasy you use to excuse yourself from judgement.
> >
> > You think resources /should/ be running out; that the earth is
> > dangerously overcrowded and mankind is doomed to disaster, so it
> > therefore /must/ be so.
> >
> > Okay, I'm game. My fantasies aren't hardened. I'm willing to learn. Show
> > me your proof.
>
> OK, I shall proceed to provide proof while trimming this long post for
> the benefit of the reader. Yes, it's all for the reader. That's not
> the average idiot who watches the Fox news. It's a discerning,
> cultured, unbiased, enlightened being who can say I'm right.
>
> Anyway here are the facts:
>
> 15 Depressing Facts About The Coming Water Crisis
>
> "America must spend $255 billion in the next five years to prevent
> deterioration of water infrastructure. We plan to spend half that
> amount."
>
> Read more:
> http://www.businessinsider.com/15-facts-about-the-coming-water-crisis-2010-3?o
> p=1#ixzz2TZMI7guv

This article is three years old, so actual links to the facts don't
exist anymore. Sorry. This may come as a surprise to you, but proof
requires data and facts.

Of the data which still exists, it appears that by 2050 or so there are
relatively few populations which will have physical shortages of water.
Some might.

Clearly there's no crisis coming to the Northern Hemisphere.

The largest groups to be effected (mostly sometime in the future) are
comprised of the basket-case dictators and central planners (Central
Africa, Southern Asia, Peru and Bolivia) which threaten to further
damage their internal economies to the point they can no longer afford
water infrastructures necessary to sustain their citizenry.

Water isn't free, nor has it generally been free throughout much of
man's history.

These projected shortages aren't really so much a function of population
as tragic incompetence.

Physical water shortages in places like North Africa and the Middle East
can come as no surprise to anyone, since water shortages have been
occurring there since the days of Alexander the Great.

As stated in an earlier post: bringing the fruits of industrialism (such
as sophisticated medical care, disease prevention and cheap food) to
unindustrialized cultures and societies is a recipe for disaster.

But a necessary disaster, if things are ever going to get better.

>
> Oh gee, we are deep shit! They are rather pouring money down the drain
> in "beautifying cities" with wild grass. It took a lot of labor and
> inconvenience to create those corner triangles where the grass grows
> wild and the water gets stuck and breeds mosquitoes.

Waa?

>
> But water, there's little plan for clean water.

Why would you claim that? The article you linked to paints a decidedly
different picture. There is much planning for improving water supplies
and infrastructure evident. $Billions and $billions are being spent all
over the world, according to your source. These organizations, providing
the information and data for the article, just don't think it's /enough/.

Different.

> I bet you the average
> Christian hasn't even heard about "water crisis."

That's because there is no "water crisis." Not yet, and there likely
won't be one in the future unless we monkeys do something stupid.

Did you and I read the same article?

> They just endorse
> the Africans having as many kids as they can.

Nothing wrong with having babies. Babies are fun.

> It's all in Bible,
> "multiply and conquer."

It works, evidently. For instance, Lebanon in the 1960s was composed of
mostly Maronites, Christians, Druze and Sunnis. The Shia were
downtrodden and suppressed. Now the Shia dominate Lebanon because of
decades of encouraging higher birthrates in their communities.

You may be shocked, but the Westernized Christians in Lebanon maintained
low birthrates--similar to Westernized Christians in the United States,
for instance. One morning they woke up, went down to breakfast, and
found that the Shia had already eaten it all up.

The same is working for Hispanic populations in California, Nevada,
Arizona and Texas. These states are all on the verge of becoming
dominated by their ever-growing hispanic populations.

Dominance is probably a function of virility...and believing babies are
fun.

Which they are.

> Why should you worry about the future. God got
> everything under control.

Of course He does. That wasn't ever in doubt.

>
> Water scarcity may be good for PREDATORY CAPITALISM (those who sell
> bottled water, etc), but not for the Wise Man with unbiased and
> enlightened opinion.

Waa?

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 17, 7:44 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <e8275c5d-0692-49fe-b26c-40fe8cd80...@s18g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,

>  "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > In the end, you're merely repeating something you thought you heard. A
> > > dreary fantasy you use to excuse yourself from judgement.
>
> > > You think resources /should/ be running out; that the earth is
> > > dangerously overcrowded and mankind is doomed to disaster, so it
> > > therefore /must/ be so.
>
> > > Okay, I'm game. My fantasies aren't hardened. I'm willing to learn. Show
> > > me your proof.
>
> > OK, I shall proceed to provide proof while trimming this long post for
> > the benefit of the reader. Yes, it's all for the reader. That's not
> > the average idiot who watches the Fox news. It's a discerning,

> > cultured, unbiased, enlightenedbeingwho can say I'm right.

>
> > Anyway here are the facts:
>
> > 15 Depressing Facts About The Coming Water Crisis
>
> > "America must spend $255 billion in the next five years to prevent
> > deterioration of water infrastructure. We plan to spend half that
> > amount."
>
> > Read more:

> >http://www.businessinsider.com/15-facts-about-the-coming-water-crisis...

> > p=1#ixzz2TZMI7guv
>
> This article is three years old, so actual links to the facts don't
> exist anymore. Sorry. This may come as a surprise to you, but proof
> requires data and facts.
>
> Of the data which still exists, it appears that by 2050 or so there are
> relatively few populations which will have physical shortages of water.
> Some might.
>
> Clearly there's no crisis coming to the Northern Hemisphere.

I understand, fuck the South. The problem is the South will emigrate
to the North as the shortages and war ravage the land. The North
already has a crisis with immigration so you go and figure.

Perhaps you'll agree with me that a REVOLUTION is necessary for the
South. Nothing like Chavez, just something smart that uses PREVENTION
as the first strategy. Actually we may use some of the water
technologies put in place by Israel. They collect the rain and make
the kibbutz bloom in the desert. Or is it something you only want for
yourself?

>
> The largest groups to be effected (mostly sometime in the future) are
> comprised of the basket-case dictators and central planners (Central
> Africa, Southern Asia, Peru and Bolivia) which threaten to further
> damage their internal economies to the point they can no longer afford
> water infrastructures necessary to sustain their citizenry.
>
> Water isn't free, nor has it generally been free throughout much of
> man's history.

Brazil is not a dictatorship and it accounts for the most
deforestation in the world. If America is falling short in planning
imagine the South.

>
> These projected shortages aren't really so much a function of population
> as tragic incompetence.

And CORRUPTION, such as here in Miami Beach. That's even more sad than
incompetence. Everybody trying to make a buck without concern for the
world. The predator only cares about himself and his family. They
steal a few million bucks in Brazil and then come here. Then they mix
with the Jews, the Cubans, the Venezuelans, and everybody else, and
make this fortress called Millionaire's Row their first row
accommodation to look at the ocean. Waiting, for the next big
hurricane to hit the area. Yes, it's coming.

>
> Physical water shortages in places like North Africa and the Middle East
> can come as no surprise to anyone, since water shortages have been
> occurring there since the days of Alexander the Great.
>
> As stated in an earlier post: bringing the fruits of industrialism (such
> as sophisticated medical care, disease prevention and cheap food) to
> unindustrialized cultures and societies is a recipe for disaster.

I think bringing Western Culture to Africa is a disaster as a whole.
They are OK without Jesus and cars.

>
> But a necessary disaster, if things are ever going to get better.

Yeah, a necessary disaster. Was the Holocaust necessary?

Perhaps it was for the birth of the State of Israel. Everything has a
positive side. In a twist of fate, they owe a lot to Hitler.

>
>
>
> > Oh gee, we are deep shit! They are rather pouring money down the drain
> > in "beautifying cities" with wild grass. It took a lot of labor and
> > inconvenience to create those corner triangles where the grass grows
> > wild and the water gets stuck and breeds mosquitoes.
>
> Waa?
>
>
>
> > But water, there's little plan for clean water.
>
> Why would you claim that? The article you linked to paints a decidedly
> different picture. There is much planning for improving water supplies

> and infrastructure evident. $Billions and $billions arebeingspent all

> over the world, according to your source. These organizations, providing
> the information and data for the article, just don't think it's /enough/.
>
> Different.

You must have missed this:

"A shortage of water resources could spell increased conflicts in the
future. Population growth will make the problem worse. So will climate
change. As the global economy grows, so will its thirst. Many more
conflicts lie just over the horizon." -- Ban Ki-Moon

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/15-facts-about-the-coming-water-crisis-2010-3?op=1#ixzz2TeuXGoGG

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 17, 1:58 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 17 May, 11:11, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

>
> Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "America must spend $255 billion in the next five years to prevent
> > deterioration of water infrastructure. We plan to spend half that
> > amount."
>

> bullshit. how can an ignorant death worshiping culture possibly be
> concerned with preservation of resources... what about prevenative
> measures... stop toxifying your air and water... shut it down... or
> chase the problem which means what a waste... it will never get solved
> that way.

It'll probably be sorted out by some future generation. We are idiots,
greedy ones, compared to those new kids growing up now.

>
> > Oh gee, we are deep shit! They are rather pouring money down the drain
> > in "beautifying cities" with wild grass. It took a lot of labor and
> > inconvenience to create those corner triangles where the grass grows
> > wild and the water gets stuck and breeds mosquitoes.
>

> keeps the masses tranquil... keeps the sheep asleep...
>

Hey, hey, let's talk about "gay rights" to keep people entertained.
That sure is a subject for debate.

>
> too much potash... but look at all the new beaches!
>
> > But water, there's little plan for clean water. I bet you the average
> > Christian hasn't even heard about "water crisis." They just endorse
> > the Africans having as many kids as they can. It's all in Bible,
> > "multiply and conquer." Why should you worry about the future. God got
> > everything under control.
>
> that is exactly the reason why they worry... they have drawn a line
> and pushed me over it... wanted to know what i was going to do and as
> of this date, everything i have done does not include them...

>
> > Water scarcity may be good for PREDATORY CAPITALISM (those who sell
> > bottled water, etc), but not for the Wise Man with unbiased and
> > enlightened opinion.
>

> the story goes... a tribe is thristy... a Jew finds a spring... rather
> than share.. he hoards it to himself... at first no one notices.. but
> then he starts to appear a little more energetic, a little too
> plump... so one day a fellow tribe member follows this "god" to see
> his secret... seeing... you do not want to be that guy...
>
> Lucifer

Are you saying they control the secret of the water?

"One day, long ago in Africa, a lion sat by the waterhole and waited
for all the animals to come to him. It was the end of hunting as we
know it. The lion didn't need to chase the prey."

Whoever bottles the water controls the world. Let the other water go
bad so I can profit.

[Neolibertarian]

In article
<6d9f0bc6-4723-4387...@n11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

"His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

<thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > This article is three years old, so actual links to the facts don't
> > exist anymore. Sorry. This may come as a surprise to you, but proof
> > requires data and facts.
> >
> > Of the data which still exists, it appears that by 2050 or so there are
> > relatively few populations which will have physical shortages of water.
> > Some might.
> >
> > Clearly there's no crisis coming to the Northern Hemisphere.
>
> I understand, fuck the South.

If you're constantly assigning evil thoughts, evil ideas, evil designs
to those around you, you understand what this says about you, right?

The Southern Hemisphere needs to grow up, and it needs to grow up in a
hurry. Today, even.

> The problem is the South will emigrate
> to the North as the shortages and war ravage the land. The North
> already has a crisis with immigration so you go and figure.

There isn't any disaster looming for the South, at least nothing that
can't be fixed by removing the petty dictatorships and central planners,
and by having the peoples of the South stand tall and stand together.

You need to read more critically, if possible. There is no crisis,
according to the information you, yourself, linked to.

There MIGHT be one in the future if they don't get their act together.

>
> Perhaps you'll agree with me that a REVOLUTION is necessary for the
> South.

For starters. But they must also step up and create their own civil
societies. You see: they've had revolutions before, but a revolution
isn't an end in itself.

> Nothing like Chavez, just something smart that uses PREVENTION
> as the first strategy. Actually we may use some of the water
> technologies put in place by Israel. They collect the rain and make
> the kibbutz bloom in the desert. Or is it something you only want for
> yourself?

Israel is surrounded by countries that dwarf it; in population, in
natural resources, in economic potential. Yet /they're/ the innovators;
/they're/ the one's with high per capita GDP; /they're/ the ones who can
save everyone else in the region.

You don't need to give the third world...anything. The gifts you've been
giving it are causing as many problems as they're solving. They don't
need fish; they need fishing lessons.

> > The largest groups to be effected (mostly sometime in the future) are
> > comprised of the basket-case dictators and central planners (Central
> > Africa, Southern Asia, Peru and Bolivia) which threaten to further
> > damage their internal economies to the point they can no longer afford
> > water infrastructures necessary to sustain their citizenry.
> >
> > Water isn't free, nor has it generally been free throughout much of
> > man's history.
>
> Brazil is not a dictatorship and it accounts for the most
> deforestation in the world. If America is falling short in planning
> imagine the South.
>

America isn't "falling short in planning," goofy. According to your own
data, America is not having any sort of problems with water, and none of
the projections indicate that America ever will.

Brazil is a basket case with a bloated, corrupt central administrative
state. Democracy didn't solve that.

I know you've never paid attention, but by 1989, there wasn't supposed
to be any forests left in Brazil.

Then they told us 1999, for sure. By then, the amazon forest was to be
completely barren.

Then it was 2009.

Etc.

> >
> > These projected shortages aren't really so much a function of population
> > as tragic incompetence.
>
> And CORRUPTION, such as here in Miami Beach. That's even more sad than
> incompetence.

Corruption is always a consequence of incompetence, of course.

> Everybody trying to make a buck without concern for the
> world. The predator only cares about himself and his family.

It's about all the monkeys are capable of. Luckily, that's generally
more than enough. Especially in a civil society.

If you want everyone looking out for the orphan, the widow and the
stranger, then what you're looking for is the Bible.

> They
> steal a few million bucks in Brazil and then come here. Then they mix
> with the Jews, the Cubans, the Venezuelans, and everybody else, and
> make this fortress called Millionaire's Row their first row
> accommodation to look at the ocean. Waiting, for the next big
> hurricane to hit the area. Yes, it's coming.

You really shouldn't drink so heavily before posting to the internet.
I'm afraid the above paragraph makes no sense whatsoever.

> >
> > Physical water shortages in places like North Africa and the Middle East
> > can come as no surprise to anyone, since water shortages have been
> > occurring there since the days of Alexander the Great.
> >
> > As stated in an earlier post: bringing the fruits of industrialism (such
> > as sophisticated medical care, disease prevention and cheap food) to
> > unindustrialized cultures and societies is a recipe for disaster.
>
> I think bringing Western Culture to Africa is a disaster as a whole.
> They are OK without Jesus and cars.

Only if they have an infant mortality rate commensurate with their
immature and feral societies. You've robbed them of that, so they need
cars. And food. And industry. And modern agriculture. And property
rights. And a rational self rule.

They certainly need Yeshua as much as you do.

> > But a necessary disaster, if things are ever going to get better.
>
> Yeah, a necessary disaster. Was the Holocaust necessary?
>
> Perhaps it was for the birth of the State of Israel. Everything has a
> positive side. In a twist of fate, they owe a lot to Hitler.

Yosef of the many-colored coat might have pointed out the same thing.

> >
> > > Oh gee, we are deep shit! They are rather pouring money down the drain
> > > in "beautifying cities" with wild grass. It took a lot of labor and
> > > inconvenience to create those corner triangles where the grass grows
> > > wild and the water gets stuck and breeds mosquitoes.
> >
> > Waa?
> >
> >
> >
> > > But water, there's little plan for clean water.
> >
> > Why would you claim that? The article you linked to paints a decidedly
> > different picture. There is much planning for improving water supplies
> > and infrastructure evident. $Billions and $billions arebeingspent all
> > over the world, according to your source. These organizations, providing
> > the information and data for the article, just don't think it's /enough/.
> >
> > Different.
>
> You must have missed this:

Are you kidding?

>
> "A shortage of water resources could spell increased conflicts in the
> future. Population growth will make the problem worse. So will climate
> change. As the global economy grows, so will its thirst. Many more
> conflicts lie just over the horizon." -- Ban Ki-Moon

Ban Ki-Moon is a bureaucrat. He's been a bureaucrat his whole life. He's
not an expert in natural resource exploitation, nor anything else.

A bureaucrat isn't expert at anything except protecting his own job.

From what I've seen, I'm not sure he could find his way to the UN
building in the morning without a driver and assistants.

Bureaucrats only know three things: how to create crises, pretend
they're managing them, and then how to perpetuate them into infinity.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 19, 12:08 am, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article

> <6d9f0bc6-4723-4387-92e4-51ccb12ba...@n11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

>  "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"
>

>  <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > This article is three years old, so actual links to the facts don't
> > > exist anymore. Sorry. This may come as a surprise to you, but proof
> > > requires data and facts.
>
> > > Of the data which still exists, it appears that by 2050 or so there are
> > > relatively few populations which will have physical shortages of water.
> > > Some might.
>
> > > Clearly there's no crisis coming to the Northern Hemisphere.
>
> > I understand, fuck the South.
>
> If you're constantly assigning evil thoughts, evil ideas, evil designs
> to those around you, you understand what this says about you, right?
>
> The Southern Hemisphere needs to grow up, and it needs to grow up in a
> hurry. Today, even.

Not like us, certainly:

On May 19, 4:40 am, x <x...@x.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:48:00 -0700, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > On May 17, 3:02 am, x <x...@x.org> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:13:35 +0200, liaM wrote:
> >> > Le 17/05/2013 02:54, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
> >> > Philosopher a écrit :
> >> >> On May 16, 7:41 pm, liaM<cud...@mindless.com> wrote:
> >> >>> Le 5/17/2013 1:01 AM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most
> >> >>> Humble Philosopher a crit :
>
> >> >>>> "They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other
> >> >>>> nations, caught like ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow
> >> >>>> prisoners of the splendor and travail of the Earth."
>
> >> >>>> -- Henry Beston
>
> >> >>>>http://www.exploratorium.edu/ifi/resources/lifescienceinquiry/
> >> doesawo...
>
> >> >>>> Beautiful, just beautiful. Words to inspire the philosophers and
> >> >>>> poets alike. Oh worms, creatures who bury themselves in the
> >> >>>> ground, looking for happiness and meaning in life. They know
> >> >>>> nothing of our deceiving world. They know nothing of Republican
> >> >>>> and Democrat, Rich and Poor.
> >> >>>> They don't know about the 1%. Lucky them.
>
> >> >>>> And then it closes with these motivational words:
>
> >> >>>> "I think the point of this avenue of inquiry is to get people to
> >> >>>> appreciate the lives of other living things with which we share
> >> >>>> this Earth."
>
> >> >>>> Yes, you may have your own views but nothing approaches the wisdom
> >> >>>> of the worm.
>
> >> >>>> "I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird and
> >> >>>> not enough the bad luck of the early worm."
>
> >> >>>> -Franklin D. Roosevelt
>
> >> >>>>http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/worm.html
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> -
>
> >> >>>>http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> >> >>> Raising worms for protein results in something like one-fifth the
> >> >>> release of methane to the atmosphere, a good reason to switch to
> >> >>> cooking wormburgers and worm-tofu dishes. Worm farms may be a good
> >> >>> place to invest. The worm farm near where I live is looking for
> >> >>> just such investment, having proved its systems with the harvest of
> >> >>> 15 tons of food grade worms this year. There are a growing number
> >> >>> of french chefs who are offering worm and insect creations at their
> >> >>> restaurants,
> >> >>> so the future is rosy for worms resulting in a cleaner, more
> >> >>> ecologically balanced world. Someone should tell J. Robbins about
> >> >>> this !
>
> >> >>> liaM (potential investors write me..)
>
> >> >> That proposal has been adopted by the Revolutionary Committee in
> >> >> Exile.
> >> >> Where are our creative leaders? Why is Africa waiting to join the
> >> >> revolution? Why worms are not in the menu?
>
> >> > Africa is waiting in the wings. Zimbabwe farmers are cultivating
> >> > worms reaching 20 feet at maturity yet just melt in the mouth raw and
> >> > sliced thin. Worm tartar is sure to be a world changer.
>
> >> if paris says it's hot maybe it will be.
>
> > Oh yes, Paris, London, New York always set the trend.
>
> > Funny, they all share a Bike Sharing Program now. Hope the rest of the
> > world catches up before it's too late.
>
> for a tour de world we need more bridges...

Well, our bridges don't accommodate bikes and pedestrians. We need to
change that.

Perhaps our engineers are dumb or perhaps they are corrupt. It's not
the kind of engineering we want to take to Africa.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 17, 7:44 pm, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I bet you the average
> > Christian hasn't even heard about "water crisis."
>
> That's because there is no "water crisis." Not yet, and there likely
> won't be one in the future unless we monkeys do something stupid.

I see, so all those warnings are meaningless. Bottle water has become
a big industry for no reason. Perhaps some water is better than other.

I think you live in the make believe world already.

>
> Did you and I read the same article?
>
> > They just endorse
> > the Africans having as many kids as they can.
>
> Nothing wrong with having babies. Babies are fun.

Wow, yes babies are fun and dogs are fun. Is that a reason to have a
large family?

I thought it was established that Haiti was overpopulated. Now think
of Israel, what would happen if all the Jews had to cram into that
place? They are already claiming foreign territories as their own.
Imagine what would happen.

>
> > It's all in Bible,
> > "multiply and conquer."
>
> It works, evidently. For instance, Lebanon in the 1960s was composed of
> mostly Maronites, Christians, Druze and Sunnis. The Shia were
> downtrodden and suppressed. Now the Shia dominate Lebanon because of
> decades of encouraging higher birthrates in their communities.
>
> You may be shocked, but the Westernized Christians in Lebanon maintained
> low birthrates--similar to Westernized Christians in the United States,
> for instance. One morning they woke up, went down to breakfast, and
> found that the Shia had already eaten it all up.
>
> The same is working for Hispanic populations in California, Nevada,
> Arizona and Texas. These states are all on the verge of becoming
> dominated by their ever-growing hispanic populations.
>
> Dominance is probably a function of virility...and believing babies are
> fun.

Virility and stupidity rhyme. PREVENT OR DIE. It's a law of nature.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 19, 12:08 am, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > "A shortage of water resources could spell increased conflicts in the
> > future. Population growth will make the problem worse. So will climate
> > change. As the global economy grows, so will its thirst. Many more
> > conflicts lie just over the horizon." -- Ban Ki-Moon
>
> Ban Ki-Moon is a bureaucrat. He's been a bureaucrat his whole life. He's
> not an expert in natural resource exploitation, nor anything else.
>
> A bureaucrat isn't expert at anything except protecting his own job.
>
> From what I've seen, I'm not sure he could find his way to the UN
> building in the morning without a driver and assistants.
>
> Bureaucrats only know three things: how to create crises, pretend
> they're managing them, and then how to perpetuate them into infinity.

So who would rely on to save the world, the rabbi? I think we rely on
bureaucrats AND scientists because they give a better picture of the
world.

Who's the president of a bureaucracy in a country if not the president
or the prime minister. Are you proposing some kind of anarchism? Once
we remove presidents and bureaucrats we are left with anarchism.

Look at the evidence coming from Arab nations, something Israel should
be worrying about...

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.california/browse_thread/thread/c2559a8b307d806/d2e4d145e9c85d8e?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=the+water+crisis#d2e4d145e9c85d8e

[opel]

On 5/19/2013 1:20 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Philosopher wrote:
> Bottle water has become
> a big industry for no reason.

Portability.

Do you like batteries too?

Portable electricity..

> Perhaps some water is better than other.

You betcha!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2010/05/25/con-bottled-bacteria.html

High bacterial rates found in bottled water
In some Canadian water, results were more than 100 times U.S. limit

[opel]

On 5/19/2013 1:38 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Philosopher wrote:
>> Bureaucrats only know three things: how to create crises, pretend
>> >they're managing them, and then how to perpetuate them into infinity.
> So who would rely on to save the world, the rabbi? I think we rely on
> bureaucrats AND scientists because they give a better picture of the
> world.

You must be a total nitwit.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/19/2013 3:38 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Philosopher wrote:
> On May 19, 12:08 am, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> "A shortage of water resources could spell increased conflicts in the
>>> future. Population growth will make the problem worse. So will climate
>>> change. As the global economy grows, so will its thirst. Many more
>>> conflicts lie just over the horizon." -- Ban Ki-Moon
>>
>> Ban Ki-Moon is a bureaucrat. He's been a bureaucrat his whole life. He's
>> not an expert in natural resource exploitation, nor anything else.
>>
>> A bureaucrat isn't expert at anything except protecting his own job.
>>
>> From what I've seen, I'm not sure he could find his way to the UN
>> building in the morning without a driver and assistants.
>>
>> Bureaucrats only know three things: how to create crises, pretend
>> they're managing them, and then how to perpetuate them into infinity.
>
> So who would rely on to save the world, the rabbi?

Bureaucrats screw up the peace..... and never win a war.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 19, 4:37 pm, BeamMeUpScotty

So the scientists do say MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE IS A REALITY. Who's
supposed to stir the population into action?

They are OUR leaders, elected representatives who are looking out for
us...

Or are you saying that the democratic process doesn't produce
politicians and bureaucrats that work for us? Are they a bunch of self-
serving individuals instead of the trusted public servants the
Republic was supposed to create?

Oh wait, democratic and Republican ways are technically different.
Maybe it would work if we had some sort of real democracy. My
community is full of shit and nobody gives a shit. Is someone
responsible for anything?

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/20/2013 10:54 AM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Philosopher wrote:
> On May 19, 4:37 pm, BeamMeUpScotty
> <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>> On 5/19/2013 3:38 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Philosopher wrote:
>>> On May 19, 12:08 am, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> "A shortage of water resources could spell increased conflicts in the
>>>>> future. Population growth will make the problem worse. So will climate
>>>>> change. As the global economy grows, so will its thirst. Many more
>>>>> conflicts lie just over the horizon." -- Ban Ki-Moon
>>
>>>> Ban Ki-Moon is a bureaucrat. He's been a bureaucrat his whole life. He's
>>>> not an expert in natural resource exploitation, nor anything else.
>>
>>>> A bureaucrat isn't expert at anything except protecting his own job.
>>
>>>> From what I've seen, I'm not sure he could find his way to the UN
>>>> building in the morning without a driver and assistants.
>>
>>>> Bureaucrats only know three things: how to create crises, pretend
>>>> they're managing them, and then how to perpetuate them into infinity.
>>
>>> So who would rely on to save the world, the rabbi?
>>
>> Bureaucrats screw up the peace..... and never win a war.
>
> So the scientists do say MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE IS A REALITY. Who's
> supposed to stir the population into action?

What action, can you change the Weather?

Human Co2 is a trace amount "of what is a trace gas" in the atmosphere....

If the earth were so fragile, then every volcanic eruption above or
under the ocean that released as much or more Co2 as Humans do, would
have already push the planet into another Global Warming year after year.

Are you saying there were NO volcanoes at all leading up to and during
ice ages?


Wouldn't someone notice that every warming period in history coincides
to be within 100 years of a major volcanic eruption?


And that ice ages are devoid of volcanic eruption?

If humans added Co2, then the atmosphere must have expanded.....
correct, or the atmosphere would have to increase in pressure according
to the laws of physics.

No study confirms either one.... so where is all that extra gas we added
to the atmosphere.


Explain that.....

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/20/2013 10:54 AM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Philosopher wrote:
> On May 19, 4:37 pm, BeamMeUpScotty
> <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>> On 5/19/2013 3:38 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Philosopher wrote:
>>> On May 19, 12:08 am, Neolibertarian <cognac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> "A shortage of water resources could spell increased conflicts in the
>>>>> future. Population growth will make the problem worse. So will climate
>>>>> change. As the global economy grows, so will its thirst. Many more
>>>>> conflicts lie just over the horizon." -- Ban Ki-Moon
>>
>>>> Ban Ki-Moon is a bureaucrat. He's been a bureaucrat his whole life. He's
>>>> not an expert in natural resource exploitation, nor anything else.
>>
>>>> A bureaucrat isn't expert at anything except protecting his own job.
>>
>>>> From what I've seen, I'm not sure he could find his way to the UN
>>>> building in the morning without a driver and assistants.
>>
>>>> Bureaucrats only know three things: how to create crises, pretend
>>>> they're managing them, and then how to perpetuate them into infinity.
>>
>>> So who would rely on to save the world, the rabbi?
>>
>> Bureaucrats screw up the peace..... and never win a war.
>
> So the scientists do say MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE IS A REALITY. Who's
> supposed to stir the population into action?

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 20, 1:09 pm, BeamMeUpScotty

You may have to argue with the scientists who confirm man made climate
change. They are not hard to find. The overwhelming majority do.

I can't possibly explain why smoking give you lung cancer but it does.
CAUSE & EFFECT, you know.

The job of the Wise Man is to listen to the ones that really know.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/20/2013 2:19 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

If smoking causes cancer why doesn't every person that smokes have cancer?

The way I hear it, smoking increases the risk of you having cancer mybe
someday..... NOT that Smoking its self caused cancer.

The doctors can't tell you that you are smoking, so you have cancer.

There may be a connection to smoking and some cancer in some people.

But to flatly say smoking causes cancer is NOT the truth.

The same as you are NOT going to die in a car accident because you don't
have a seat belt on..... the truth is that many/most people don't die by
not wearing a seat belt, in fact only 40,000 people die in cars and they
may be killed by actually wearing the seat belt, as easily as those NOT
wearing one, depending on the thousands of variables.

All the government and the doctors are doing is "playing the odds" and
using the odds as an excuse to steal my individual RIGHTS, it violates
the constitution and my freedom.




--


*Rumination*
#3.0.1 - Liberals seem to think "the only gun owners" with any rights
are the criminals.....

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 21, 9:06 am, BeamMeUpScotty

Hey, where's my freedom to ride a bicycle or a Neighborhood Electric
Vehicle? Why the big ones are favored over the little ones, which, by
the way, fall outside the "grid" that feeds the large corporations?
Where's my freedom to be off the grid?

As for tobacco, the Tobacco Free Florida grosses me out with
commercials that portray patients dying of cancer (but never the
dangers portrayed by SUVs):

http://www.tobaccofreeflorida.com/?lang=en&gclid=COqSlqrmp7cCFZJj7Aodf3kAoQ

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 19, 12:32 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 19, 9:29 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

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> Government doesn't want people walking on bridges.

So people are divided by bridges, not united. What an irony.

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> They are designed foe mass transportation of people, not for pleasure.

Nothing is designed for pleasure, particularly when it's free and
healthy.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/21/2013 2:31 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Philosopher wrote:
> On May 19, 12:32 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On May 19, 9:29 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
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>>> On May 19, 4:40 am, x <x...@x.org> wrote:
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>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:48:00 -0700, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey,
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>>>>> On May 17, 3:02 am, x <x...@x.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:13:35 +0200, liaM wrote:
>>>>>>> Le 17/05/2013 02:54, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

>>>>>>> Philosopher a �crit :

Think about which people walk?


Think about Democrat-Socialism being one of the most racist ideologies.



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*Rumination*
#46 - Welcome to Socialism, where mediocrity is the highest achievement
possible.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/21/2013 2:18 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Where's the Millions wasted on PSA commercials that tell you not to put
you DICK in a meat grinder?



If you need a PSA to stop "stupid" from happening, why pick and choose
what stupid thing is worth wasting money on.


They all have their victims, why discriminate against specific types of
stupid?


*Rumination*
#11 - A little Liberalism like a little alcohol, can be a good thing but
when either of them take control, they become self destructive.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 21, 3:05 pm, BeamMeUpScotty

<ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> On 5/21/2013 2:31 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
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> > On May 19, 12:32 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >>> On May 19, 4:40 am, x <x...@x.org> wrote:
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> Think about Democrat-Socialismbeingone of the most racist ideologies.

Well, I've heard it was bureaucratic or corrupt, but never racist.

Say, aren't we bureaucratic and corrupt?

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 21, 3:13 pm, BeamMeUpScotty

> >http://www.tobaccofreeflorida.com/?lang=en&gclid=COqSlqrmp7cCFZJj7Aod...

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> what stupid thing is worth wasting money on.
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I'd welcome commercials that went: "Don't sit on you ass the whole
day, stupid!"

Maybe we can get rid of some obesity.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/21/2013 8:24 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Maybe we need to encourage more Obesity to get rid of the ones
susceptible to suggestion and getting FAT. The sooner they're gone....
the sooner there will be no more obesity.


Which way is more efficient and which is better for the collective you
and Bret like so much? You do everything for the `collective so if
encouraging it is best for the collective..... that's what you do.





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*Rumination*
#48 - Academia is where Socialists can live in their theoretic bubble
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[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 22, 12:48 am, BeamMeUpScotty

Survival of the fittest doesn't have place for the fat and dumb. Let
them get in shape and join the revolution...

On May 22, 1:12 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
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> On 22 May, 09:38, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
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> Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Many people do leave their vehicles recklessly, among them the police
> > and security guards. There's a guard blocking the access to this
> > marina and he keeps the motor running, probably for his A/C.
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> > When you think about it, they are polluting the Earth's lungs, from
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> hahaha... monkey... same old song and dance eh?... i think you are
> funny. the idea here is that you believe that what you do here is some
> how effective. why not rally a protest? why not be a rebel and open up
> those evil polluters cars and turn them off? please. enlighten me.
> enlighten us. why is this wise... why is this humble?
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Well, Jesus started on foot, talking some kind of nonsense, and he
gathered 12 disciples!

I think I can count that many by now. And I'm talking serious business
here. This is the very survival of the species, and the coming of
another... the roaches.

At some point you may have to keep going alone and write the story of
the jungle. Just search YouTube for "Serengeti."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAHrkjKGY9A

How those sheep herders even compare.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 23, 12:25 pm, Tim <8.tim.har...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 10:15 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
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> Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > That's one reason I ride a bike.
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> i will bet there is only one reason monkey... want a chance to win a
> brand new kick ass monkey detailed, all the fixings, bells and
> whistles SUV with a until the end of time gas, oil and all the free
> maintenance and parts ever... spin that wheel mother fucker! so does
> every one... bwahahahaha...
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> so monkey. since you are admittedly a shitty bike driver... hell, even
> confessed to putting it down for a few walking miles... scared while
> driving monkey... a classic... but the real question is monkey... what
> we, all your viewers, fans, groupies... all want to know... is...
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> "are those bike driving skills transferable to a brand new fucking
> right on SUV!..."
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wi8Fv0AJA4
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> Lucifer

Well, I have put down the bike to survive, not because it tires me.
Actually it's much tougher to walk on flip flops in this overwhelming
heat. Only a man determined to win would keep on...

Of course, the rest of the time --beyond that mile-- I must drive like
every other idiot out there. What do you expect?

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On May 22, 3:14 pm, Phil W Lee <p...@lee-family.me.uk> wrote:
> "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"

> <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> considered Tue, 21 May 2013 11:25:06

> It would certainly be reasonable (given the deaths and injuries they
> cause) for all motor vehicle to be made carry similar types of
> explicit imagery at point of sale (but obviously of the relevant types
> of death and injury, rather than tumours and dissected lungs).

That's what I always say.

Sadly our vehicles are our sacred cows. In reality they pollute the
Planet's lungs, the very air we all --men, women and children--
inhale. I wished they could try turning on their engine in a closed
garage and see what happens.

[opel]

On 5/23/2013 3:23 PM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble

Philosopher wrote:
> I wished they could try turning on their engine in a closed
> garage and see what happens.

I wished you had an ox cart and somewhere to be in a hurry.

[His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

The WiseMan select his vehicle according to the situation. An ox cart
is certainly nice where roads are bad and gas is nowhere to be found.