Nazi's Were Certainly NOT Leftists NOR Socialists. like Duh.
rshelton
cross, and preaching free markets (trans. economic imperialism.)
rs
David Mott
market economy. STUPID.....
rshelton <rshe...@sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us> wrote in message
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LibertyorDeath
Just like Hitler's bunch they use LIES & BIGGER LIES to advance their
agenda. They control the media, education, courts & politics.
And they have Millions totally deceived they are benevolent. (just like the
Nazis)
Eric da Red
LibertyorDeath <liberty...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>Fascism is already here, friend. The Nazi Libs are in place.
There aren't many liberals in positions of national political power. I
can't think of any Nazi liberals at all.
>Just like Hitler's bunch they use LIES & BIGGER LIES to advance their
>agenda. They control the media, education, courts & politics.
I shall forward your message to Rupert Murdoch, he'll probably get a
chuckle at being called a liberal.
--
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houses built in Turkey. had there been super stringent standards most
those people that died in the quake would have died years before on the
streets." Unnamed seattle.general libertarian.
tjwilson
David Mott wrote:
>
> but we already have a flag, most of us are christians, and we have a free
> market economy. STUPID.....
Pretty soon he'll be able to figure that out.
tjw
David Mott
Loren Petrich <pet...@netcom.com> wrote in message
news:7r9j1d$1...@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com...
> In article <eBVB3.10297$P72.2...@wbnws01.ne.mediaone.net>,
> David Mott <mot...@NOSPAMmediaone.net> wrote:
> >but we already have a flag, most of us are christians, and we have a
free
> >market economy. STUPID.....
>
> all these things against the evil flag-burning anti-Christian socialists.
So if i defend the flag, my right to worship christ, and free markets then i
am a fascist? Then going by that conclusion we have been living in a
fascist state for 230 years. Or.......you and your liberal friends are
living on Fantasy Island.
> >> If fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag, waving
the
> >> cross, and preaching free markets (trans. economic imperialism.)
>
> --
> Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> pet...@netcom.com And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
ipm
> Fascism is already here, friend. The Nazi Libs are in place.
> Just like Hitler's bunch they use LIES & BIGGER LIES to advance their
> agenda.
You're confused. It is the Jews who use the "Big Lie Technique." If you knew
anything, you'd know that Hitler didn't advocate any such thing, but merely
observed that it was the Jews who told big lies. The fact that so many people
actually believe that Hitler "invented" this technique proves it. The very
people who have repeated that falsehood are the same ones who use it - the
Jews!
> They control the media, education, courts & politics.
> And they have Millions totally deceived they are benevolent. (just like the
> Nazis)
Tave you ever looked at who runs the major media? Jews. Who's in charge of the
economy? The Fed, right? And who runs the Fed? Alan GREENSPAN, a Jew. Who's the
Secretary of State? Madeline Albright, a Jew! Did you know Clinton's entire
National Security Council is also Jewish? How about Secretary of Defense?
William COHEN, another Jew. The list goes on and on. Even Clinton gets his
Presidential twanger sucked by a Jew, Monica Lewinsky! We have Jews coming out
our ears. And remember, they're only about three percent of the population!
The Jews run this country and you don't even know it. That's proof positive of
the Jew's "Big Lie Technique" in action! You think the "Nazis" run it. Believe
me if the Nazis did run the country, that piece of lying, murdering filth
wouldn't be in the White House. He'd be in jail doing life!
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David Mott
> In article <rkYB3.10452$P72.2...@wbnws01.ne.mediaone.net>,
> David Mott <mot...@NOSPAMmediaone.net> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich <pet...@netcom.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >but we already have a flag, most of us are christians, and we have a
> >free
> >> >market economy. STUPID.....
>
> >> Except that the would-be fascists will be claiming to be defending
> >> all these things against the evil flag-burning anti-Christian
socialists.
>
> >So if i defend the flag, my right to worship christ, and free markets
then i
>
> No, only that the fascists would be claiming to be on your side.
Its easy to call someone who you disagree with a fascist. I have no
relations or have nothing to do with fascism. I didnt write or complain
about Jews like a previous poster has done in this thread. It just proves
how low of a human being you are.
Aviator
ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote in message news:37D851E5...@usaor.net...
And I noticed that racists are conspicuous by their absence in the upper
echelons of government. Maybe that will give you a clue that Americans
prefer Jews to racist morons
>
> The Jews run this country and you don't even know it. That's proof
positive of
> the Jew's "Big Lie Technique" in action! You think the "Nazis" run it.
Believe
> me if the Nazis did run the country, that piece of lying, murdering filth
> wouldn't be in the White House. He'd be in jail doing life!
Murderers supported and revered by Willy:
George Loeb
Tim McVeigh
Hitler
David Lane (Convicted in the conspiracy to murder Alan Berg)
Being your usual hypocritical self, Willie??
Observer
Here's a short description of what's happening in East Timor/Timor Lorosae:
The people in East Timor has voted for independence from Indonesia.
The registration of eligible voters surprassed all the UN's
expectations;
98.6% of the registered voters cast their vote on 30 August;
78.5% of the voters rejected the autonomy deal proposed by Jakarta,
thereby opting for independence;
21.5% voted in favour of autonomy within Indonesia.
The results announced by Kofi Annan were considered to be fair by the
government of Indonesia.
The day after the ballot, the militias recommenced their rampage of
terrorism and killing:
- Journalists, humanitation organisations, and even the Australian
Ambassador on a visit to Jakarta, were all attacked, threatened, and
forced to leave the territory;
- Militias attacked and burned down the headquarters of the
International Red Cross, and the residence of Nobel Prize winner
Bishop Belo, in which over 5,000 people were sheltering at the time.
The Bishop went into exile; the refugees at his residence were loaded
onto military trucks and taken away by soldiers. The residence of the
territory's second Bishop, Mnsgr. Nascimento, was also attacked. The
Bishop was wounded in the attack and is now held by the police. Much
of the population is now hiding in the mountains;
- UNAMET's headquarters, where thousands of refugees are sheltering, was
besieged by militias until the Mission itself has been forced to
consider withdrawing. Wich is about to occur in the next few hours;
- There are many reports of mass summary executions: 200 people shot on
the beach at Liquiça, 100 killed in the church in Suai. At the moment,
it is impossible to confirm these reports;
- A UN spokesman in Dili said that, before the ballot, UNAMET had been
aware of a plan by Indonesia to deport between 200,000 and 300,000
Timorese. That plan is now being put into operation.
Indonesia refuses to allow an international peace force into East Timor,
has decreted martial law througout the territory, continues to deploy
more troops there, and has cut off all public services, including the
water supply.
Amnesty International has always fought for Human Rights. We also know that
the East Timor/Timor Lorosae issue is not new to AI, but we're asking you to
take on an extra dedication to spread though out the international community
the sad news of violence that is occurring right now in East Timor/Timor
Lorosae. Take local actions that you consider to be useful in creating an
international awareness regarding East Timor/Timor Lorosae. Join us in our
outrage towards a massive killing of innocent people whose right to freedom
is internationally recognized.
Help us stop the hypocrisy.
Observer
International community have the right to fight for Human Rights. We also
know that the East Timor/Timor Lorosae issue is not new, but we're asking
Loren Petrich
David Mott <mot...@NOSPAMmediaone.net> wrote:
>but we already have a flag, most of us are christians, and we have a free
>market economy. STUPID.....
Except that the would-be fascists will be claiming to be defending
all these things against the evil flag-burning anti-Christian socialists.
>> If fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag, waving the
Loren Petrich
>> David Mott <mot...@NOSPAMmediaone.net> wrote:
>> >but we already have a flag, most of us are christians, and we have a
>free
>> >market economy. STUPID.....
>> Except that the would-be fascists will be claiming to be defending
>> all these things against the evil flag-burning anti-Christian socialists.
>So if i defend the flag, my right to worship christ, and free markets then i
>am a fascist? ...
No, only that the fascists would be claiming to be on your side.
Phil Ronzone
David Mott <mot...@NOSPAMmediaone.net> wrote:
>but we already have a flag, most of us are christians, and we have a free
>market economy. STUPID.....
>
>news:rshelton-090...@mshs165.sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us...
>> cross, and preaching free markets (trans. economic imperialism.)
>>
>
Snicker. Why, just LOOK at how all those freedosm have BEEN LOST in the
PRC in the last decade as economic freedoms have grown.
Ooops, THAT's not the case, is it?
--
Let justice prevail though the Heavens fall. Judge, and prepare to be judged.
Phil Ronzone
rshelton <rshe...@sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us> wrote:
>If fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag, waving the
>cross, and preaching free markets (trans. economic
>imperialism.)
>
>rs
Oooohh, get out the enemas. Anothe asshole has popped up.
Yes siree Bob - just LOOK at all those terrible "free markets" in those
fascist hellholes like Cuba, Vietnam, North Kores, Iraq, Syria ...
Snicker.
Phil Ronzone
>>Fascism is already here, friend. The Nazi Libs are in place.
>>Just like Hitler's bunch they use LIES & BIGGER LIES to
>>advance their agenda.
>>
>You're confused. It is the Jews who use the "Big Lie
>Technique." If you knew anything, you'd know that Hitler
>didn't advocate any such thing, but merely observed that it
>was the Jews who told big lies. The fact that so many people
>actually believe that Hitler "invented" this technique proves
>it. The very people who have repeated that falsehood are the
>same ones who use it - the Jews!
Calling Scott Erb, calling Scott Erb!
One of your students is loose ...
Lvis
Lvis.
--
What part of 'Thou shalt not...' did you not understand?
God.
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David Mott <mot...@NOSPAMmediaone.net> wrote in message
news:h0ZB3.10485$P72.2...@wbnws01.ne.mediaone.net...
:
: Loren Petrich <pet...@netcom.com> wrote in message
: news:7r9lo0$2...@dfw-ixnews15.ix.netcom.com...
: > In article <rkYB3.10452$P72.2...@wbnws01.ne.mediaone.net>,
: > David Mott <mot...@NOSPAMmediaone.net> wrote:
: > >Loren Petrich <pet...@netcom.com> wrote in message
: >
: > >> David Mott <mot...@NOSPAMmediaone.net> wrote:
: > >> >but we already have a flag, most of us are christians, and we have
a
: > >free
: > >> >market economy. STUPID.....
: >
: > >> Except that the would-be fascists will be claiming to be defending
: > >> all these things against the evil flag-burning anti-Christian
: socialists.
: >
: > >So if i defend the flag, my right to worship christ, and free markets
: then i
: > >am a fascist? ...
: >
: > No, only that the fascists would be claiming to be on your side.
: Its easy to call someone who you disagree with a fascist. I have no
:
:
ipm
> Actually, I think the Jews do a pretty decent job of running things.
Yea, they they really did a great job in the USSR.
--
For White Unity,
ipm
Robert McCallum
<mot...@NOSPAMmediaone.net> wrote:
>but we already have a flag, most of us are christians, and we have a free
>market economy. STUPID.....
>
>rshelton <rshe...@sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us> wrote in message
>news:rshelton-090...@mshs165.sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us...
>> If fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag, waving the
>> cross, and preaching free markets (trans. economic imperialism.)
>>
>> rs
>
Apparantly you didn't quite understand what the poster wrote.
Robert McCallum
>In article <rshelton-090...@mshs165.sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us>,
>rshelton <rshe...@sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us> wrote:
>>If fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag, waving the
> >cross, and preaching free markets (trans. economic
> >imperialism.)
> >
> >rs
>
>
>Oooohh, get out the enemas. Anothe asshole has popped up.
>
>Yes siree Bob - just LOOK at all those terrible "free markets" in those
>fascist hellholes like Cuba, Vietnam, North Kores, Iraq, Syria ...
>
>Snicker.
Another proof that the internet is filled with morons who can't even
comprehend simple philosophical ideas. One wonders if people like
Ronzone even finished "High Skrewl?"
David Mott
Robert McCallum <rush...@geocities.com> wrote in message
news:37d925f6...@news.mindspring.com...
> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:26:50 -0400, "David Mott"
> <mot...@NOSPAMmediaone.net> wrote:
>
> >but we already have a flag, most of us are christians, and we have a
free
> >market economy. STUPID.....
> >
> >rshelton <rshe...@sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us> wrote in message
> >news:rshelton-090...@mshs165.sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us...
the
> >> cross, and preaching free markets (trans. economic imperialism.)
> >>
> >> rs
> >
>
>
wrote, let me tell you what I think.
He either meant one of the following
1. Since a lot of americal believes in most or all of these ideals, we are
already a fascist state.
2. If someone believes in all three or most of these ideals, he/she is a
fascist.
This isn't hard to comprehend. Feel free next time to post what your
opinion is instead of pointing out something you may not understand.
Scott Erb
says...
>Another proof that the internet is filled with morons who can't even
>comprehend simple philosophical ideas. One wonders if people like
>Ronzone even finished "High Skrewl?"
Shhh...I think he may actually be a liberal who is just trying to make the
right look bad and stupid, and at the same time provide others with a
chance to make very reasonable and persuasive counter arguments which he
can't handle!
ciao, scott
tjwilson
Robert McCallum wrote:
>
> On 10 Sep 1999 03:03:15 GMT, ph...@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) wrote:
>
> >In article <rshelton-090...@mshs165.sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us>,
> >rshelton <rshe...@sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us> wrote:
> >>If fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag, waving the
> > >cross, and preaching free markets (trans. economic
> > >imperialism.)
> > >
> > >rs
> >
> >
> >Oooohh, get out the enemas. Anothe asshole has popped up.
> >
> >Yes siree Bob - just LOOK at all those terrible "free markets" in those
> >fascist hellholes like Cuba, Vietnam, North Kores, Iraq, Syria ...
> >
> >Snicker.
>
> Another proof that the internet is filled with morons who can't even
> comprehend simple philosophical ideas. One wonders if people like
> Ronzone even finished "High Skrewl?"
Capitalism is the worst economic system; except for all the others.
tjw
Steve La Joie
hold elections to split up countries into smaller ones. It pisses
off their governments.
What if the U.N. goes to the white seperatist in Idaho, or the hispanic
population in the SW U.S.. Boy, that could cause a problem. Brings new
meaning to the saying "the South shall rise again" huh?
Observer wrote:
>
> Dear sir,
> Here's a short description of what's happening in East Timor/Timor Lorosae:
[snip]
> Help us stop the hypocrisy.
Fight your own wars. I didn't raise my son to be your
cannon fodder.
Scott Erb
>Capitalism is the worst economic system; except for all the others.
>tjw
What people forget is that capitalism has traditionally been opposed by
conservatives, and the right-wing is as skeptical of capitalism as the
left wing. Liberalism (belief in individual liberties, Locke, etc.) tends
to be the most pro-capitalist ideology, but its hard to place it on a left
right scale. My view:
Far right: Centralized government designed to protect a country's
traditions, social values and norms. Strong nationalism, belief in elite
and church rights. Individual liberties are granted, only in so far as
they don't go against the interest of the state. Accepts market economy
as long as it works in favor of the state (but government doesn't own the
means of production, except perhaps in wartime). Skeptical of free trade.
Far left: Centralized government, designed to implement an economic
system designed to achieve what they consider perfect justice.
Anti-nationalist, focused on ending unequal distribution of resources.
Individual liberties are granted, only in so far as they don't interfer
with the ability of the government to achieve its goal of trying to create
a perfect system. Government owns everything, no market economy.
Liberal (where does this fit?): limited government, focus primarily on
individual liberties, a market economy, and free trade. Disagreements
about the nature of these liberties and needed regulations are handled
democratically. (The term "liberal democracy" has replaced the old term
"Republic" as describing the system where government is limited by a
constitution, but beyond that leaves decisions to the voters).
Grey areas: Social Democrats -- believe capitalism is unjust, but
recognize that individual liberties are necessary. Modern conservatives
-- believe elite rule is wrong and individual liberties are necessary, but
believe government should enforce social norms and customs (usually
religion, etc.) Left libertarians (Greens, etc.): oppose centralized
governmental power, but skeptical of capitalism's ability to centralize
power. Authoritarians: grab power, often accept capitalism, but deny
individual liberties.
No left right schema fits this all. Certainly, one can't glibly say that
just because a government is oppressive its the same ideology!
ciao, scott
Scott Erb
Phil Ronzone
Poor little Robert - he has no rational comment on the issues, and, he ain't
even funny.
Amazing - some people still don't understand the difference between
fascism (communiusm, socialism, etc.) and free markets.
But it's OK little Robert, once YOU comprehend your FIRST philosophical
idea, you can come back and play with the big boys.
Snicker.
Phil Ronzone
Scott Erb <scot...@maine.edu> wrote:
>In article <37da269e...@news.mindspring.com>, rush...@geocities.com
>says...
>
>>comprehend simple philosophical ideas. One wonders if people like
>>Ronzone even finished "High Skrewl?"
>Shhh...I think he may actually be a liberal who is just
>trying to make the right look bad and stupid, and at the same
>time provide others with a chance to make very reasonable and
>persuasive counter arguments which he can't handle! ciao,
>scott
Another two feces-lovers engaging in ad-hominem attacks, rather than try
to debate principles, facts, or engage in rational discussion.
For example, Mr, Erb, do you agree that no man ever has a right to
initiate coercin against a fellow man?
Hmmm ...
If the question is too hard for you, feel free to continue tossing out
insults.
BTW - you apparently don;t admit to admiring east german communist
paries any more. Why the change? Too much flak?
Joseph Canale
> In article <37da269e...@news.mindspring.com>,
> Robert McCallum <rush...@geocities.com> wrote:
> >On 10 Sep 1999 03:03:15 GMT, ph...@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>In article
> >><rshelton-090...@mshs165.sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us>,
> >>rshelton <rshe...@sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us> wrote:
> >>>If fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the
> >>>flag, waving the cross, and preaching free markets (trans.
> >>>economic imperialism.)
> >>>
> >>>rs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Oooohh, get out the enemas. Anothe asshole has popped up.
> >>
> >>Yes siree Bob - just LOOK at all those terrible "free
> >>markets" in those fascist hellholes like Cuba, Vietnam, North
> >>Kores, Iraq, Syria ...
> >>
> >>Snicker.
> >>
> >>
> >Another proof that the internet is filled with morons who
> >can't even comprehend simple philosophical ideas. One wonders
> >if people like Ronzone even finished "High Skrewl?"
>
>
> Poor little Robert - he has no rational comment on the issues, and, he ain't
> even funny.
>
> Amazing - some people still don't understand the difference between
> fascism (communiusm, socialism, etc.) and free markets.
>
> But it's OK little Robert, once YOU comprehend your FIRST philosophical
> idea, you can come back and play with the big boys.
You're sure cocky for a retard, Phil.
Joe