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 More options Jun 19 2002, 12:35 pm
Newsgroups: alt.fan.robert-jordan
From: bruce <mort...@deadspam.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 01:45:33 +1000
Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 11:45 am
Subject: Re: Dinkum Aussie Slang (P-S)
On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 21:42:16 +1000 bruce <mort...@deadspam.com> wrote:

> Paddington Leftie: An upwardly and greedily mobile 'parlour' socialite.
> Somewhat the same as a _basketweaver from Balmain_ but richer. The
> Americanisms are WASP and Yuppie.

I always thought yuppie was Australian.

I'm thinking Paddington must have changed a bit in the 15 years or so since
the book was written. Paddington, Darlinghurst, Surry Hills, King's Cross -
all that area is the gay part of Sydney.

> Perve: In its most general sense the male habit of eyeing up a woman.
> However, a _perve_ or someone thus named is a child molester.

Not necessarily a child molester. I'd call myself a perve.

> Petrolhead: One who is obsessed by his or her car far and beyond the
> medallion of the Blessed Virgin and the pyjama puppy in the back seat
> behind the venetion blinds. One who decorates his or her car in the taste
> of idiocy.
> [picture of a bloke in racing leathers proudly standing by his car, which
> is extremely modified (supercharger, spoilers, aerials, mags, lights, you
> get the idea), and has the license plate 'I WANK 2'; various tools are
> scattered around the car]

The picture is a lot more accurate than the text.

> Phoney: Normally used in the somewhat archaic phrase '_phoney_ as a two
> bob watch,' meaning that the person being referred to is a trickster or
> otherwise dud. Always used in reference to bipeds and never when talking
> about inanimate objects.

It is used for objects, and means fake.

> Piece: Of Western and Southern Australian origin now found only in the
> realms of literature by those authors who are attempting to be stylishly
> nationalistic. The literal translation is 'a piece of bread, jam and
> butter.' A young child was normally given a _piece_ when he or she came
> home from school. Nowadays they are either given a Fanta and a bickie or
> they go out and buy themselves a snort of coke with Mum's sherry money.

Never heard of this, but I'm an easterner. Fanta is foul shit.

> Pig Iron Bob: An obscure and more then somewhat fat leader of the
> Australian Federation in the 1950s and 1960s who fancied himself in
> double-breasted suits. His phrase-making fame came from the fact that he
> sold a lot of scrap iron to the Japanese empire shortly before the start
> of a minor matter known as World War II. The Japanese returned his favour
> in the form of shells. hence the phrase _Pig Iron Bob_. His full name was
> Robert Gordon Menzies.

Politics again. At least he lets us know who it is this time. I'm still
wondering who the last one was.

> Piss in the same pot: The same as 'pee in the same pot' which is very
> nearly the same as the Americanism to whit, 'to piss in someone's pocket,'
> or, to use another Americanism, in a slightly different sense, 'to have
> his pecker in my pocket' (Lyndon Baines Johnson, circa 1978). In general
> terms to be a crawler or to suck up to someone.

Never heard this.

> Pitt Street Farmer: A Sydney expression which had some original sense when
> all the banks were in Pitt Street of that city. Means that someone is
> using country property losses for city advantages. The Melbourne
> expression is Collins Street Farmer.

Haven't heard either of these, but then, neither street has a high
concentration of banks.

> Plonk: Cheap wine. One who is _plonko_ gets drunk on the stuff.

Haven't heard of plonko.

> Poddy-dodger: A cattle stealer who specialises in calves. A cattle duffer
> who confines his activities to immature beasts.

Nor this.

> Poultice: If one 'puts a _poultice_' on something one has invested a
> serious amount of money (usually on a horse).

I've only heard this in the medical sense, from fantasy novels.

> Pub: An hotel.

More accurately, a public hotel.

> Puftaloon: A fried version of damper served with _Cocky's Joy_. Puftaloons
> were often fried in deep mutton fat. This combination at times caused
> death. Amazingly enough, in past years many bushmen regarded puftaloons as
> excellent puddin'.

Never knew these had a name other than 'deep-fried damper.' Yum.

> Punch the bundy: Literally to arrive at work on time and check in at one's
> appointed hour. However, in popular parlance _punching the bundy_ meant
> that one was unwillingly doing a lot of 'hard _graft_' in an effort to
> 'make a _quid_.'

Haven't heard this, but I avoid work like the plague.

> Push: Member of a sect. Now somewhat archaic except in the sense of 'a
> member of the literary _push_.' Members of a _push_ were once regarded as
> larrikins or 'street stoushers.' The Australian word for a street gang.

I may have heard this, in the dim, distant past.

> Quid: Formerly a one pound note, still occassionally heard in the phrase
> 'not worth a bloody _quid_' (worthless), or 'not the full _quid_'
> (insane).

No idea why he bothered putting this in.

> Rabbit: Used by either male or female about another male who is held to be
> weak, normally in the phrase, he's a 'bit of a _rabbit_.'

Haven't heard this.

> Rabbits also
> have the distressing tendency to _rabbit on_; to talk about nothing at all
> over an interminable period of time whereupon they are told to 'stop
> rabbiting.'

Have heard these.

> On the other hand a 'rabbitoh' (now archaic) was one who sold
> rabbits for a living from door to door.

The only Rabbitohs I've heard of are the South Sydney footy team.

> He was normally accompanied by a
> mate who sold clothes props which were not used to prop up clothes, but
> rather the line that held the said garments on washing day.

What Aussie would dry their clothes on anything but a Hills Hoist?

> Rapt: If one is _rapt_ in something it is really good.

This isn't just Australian, surely.

> Rat up a rope: If one does something like a _rat up a rope_ one has moved
> exceedingly quickly.

Haven't heard this.

> Real Yarra: Slightly older version of the above phrase meaning that the
> person is boring and muddy or unclear, in reference to the River Yarra
> which runs through the city of Melbourne.

Interestingly enough, I haven't heard this since I moved down here. Only
heard it a few times when I was on the Central Coast (of NSW).

> Reds under the bed: All right-thinking middle class Australians were
> terrified of finding reds (or communists) either under the bed or
> dominating the unions and running the country. The fear actually has
> nothing to do with the rise of the Soviet Communist Party. Australians
> have constantly feared invasion by the Soviet Union since the days of the
> Tsar. The country's coastline is littered with useless nineteenth century
> forts that were built to thwart this. This is despite the fact that the
> northern and frozen nation has shown no interest whatsoever in claiming
> Ayers Rock as its own. The phrase _reds under the bed_ is now used as a
> term of derision by members of the Labor Party's left wing when their
> political opponents are kicking up a stink about something or other.

Um, yeah, whatever. I've heard it, but this explanation is a bit much. I
always thought the reds were the Chinese. They're a lot closer and a lot
more likely to invade.

Ayers Rock isn't called that anymore. It's officially known by it's Koori
name, Uluru.

> Room in a railway station: An unusual but not archaic phrase meaning that
> someone is down on his or her luck. The only place to sleep is the waiting
> room of a railway station.

Haven't heard this, but most stations don't have waiting rooms anymore, just
platforms.

> Rort: An enjoyable party with dancing and violence (and of course grog).

I hadn't heard this usage until a couple of weeks ago. A rort is like a
shady business transaction, like embezzlement or tax evasion.

> Rough as guts: A bad turn, a piece of bad sportsmanship or a deliberately
> nasty act, as in 'Did you see what the _bastard_ did? That was _rough as
> guts_.'

Also, a strong alcoholic drink might be rough as guts.

> Saltbush: Marginal and virtually useless sheep-grazing country invariably
> settled by battlers, such as the cartoon character Saltbush Bill. Anyone
> in the bush who is locally known as Saltbush Bill is regarded as a
> failure.

Never heard it.

> Salvo: A member of the Salvation Army of either sex. A female Salvationist
> is sometimes called a Sally Anne.

Or just a Sally.

> Sarky: Bad tempered, as in, 'Don't get _sarky_ with me you _bastard_.'
> Snaky: Irritable.

I've heard these both as 'snarky.'

> Sav: Short for a largish dyed sausage known as a saveloy, which is a sort
> of inflated frankfurter or hot dog. A battered sav on a stick (for the
> uninitiated: a saveloy covered in a flour and water paste, impaled on a
> popsicle bat then deep fried) is still an esteemed Australian fair ground
> snack. This culinary horror is invariably dipped in tomato sauce before
> being thrust into the fingers of the unwary.

A battered sav on a stick sounds like a good idea. I always used to burn my
fingers. I say 'used to' because down here they've got 'sausage in batter'
but it's not quite the same thing and tastes foul (must be a different
sausage, or something).

> Scrubber: A cow or steer that has gone wild in the scrub. An ugly woman.

Never heard the first meaning.

> Selection: A land grant. Now found only in nationalistic literature and
> starting witht he words, 'Things were crook on our selection...' The worst
> selection in Australia was farmed by the literary figures Dad and Dave who
> were the heroic battlers of Steele Rudd's _On Our Selection_ and _On Our
> New Selection_.

Archaic.

I thought 'Dad and Dave' was a radio play from the 40s.

> Shagged: Exhausted from hard work.

Flogged, buggered, fucked, stuffed, fagged, knackered, and more I can't
think of.

> She's Jake: An expression meaning that things are all right, which they
> are not.

Or they are.

Same as 'She's apples.'

> Shicker: If one gets 'on the _shicker_' one intends to get drunk, hence
> _shickered_.

Haven't heard this.

> Shivoo: A party similar to a _rort_ except that in the first instance
> dancing takes place over fighting.

I haven't heard this since I left Sydney's western suburbs (yes, I was once
a westie), many long years ago.

> Shot through like a Bondi tram: Somewhat archaic although still in use by
> those who remember the days of Sydney trams with affection. The Bondi tram
> was notorously the most dangerous and fastest. It means therefore that the
> person has 'pissed off at the high port' or fled very quickly indeed.

Not that archaic. I use it.

Sydeny has trams again. Or one at least, though they don't call it a tram.
It's the SLR (Sydney Light Rail), and runs from Central station to the fish
markets via the casino and it's expensive (shortly after it started I caught
it, just for novelty, from George Street to Central, a few hundred metres at
most, and it cost me $2).

> Shouse: Something not very nice. Short for shithouse.

Never heard this.

> Shout: To stand around in a school of drinkers in a pub, hence, 'It's my
> _shout_.' One whose turn it is to _shout_ is said to be 'in the chair.'

Heh. You never say when it's your own shout. More like, 'It's your shout
mate, I got the last round.'

> Shout for Ruth: To go for the 'big spit.' To vomit.
> [picture of a couple of blokes out fishing on rough seas in a motorboat;
> one is hanging over the rail vomiting (a fish swimming in his chunder
> says, 'Wow! Yum!'), the other saying, 'No flamin' use shouting for Ruth
> out here mate, ...she won't hear yer!']

Hadn't heard this.

> Sickie: If one 'takes a _sickie_' one pretends one is ill while actually
> attending the races. To sadly misplace the trust and generosity of one's
> employer.

Or one might actually be sick.

> Silvertail: A member of the upper classes or anyone who is richer than the
> person making the accusation. The adjective _bloody_ normally precedes the
> use of the word.

Haven't heard this.

> Sin Bin: A place where a sportsman is sent after being ordered off the
> field for appalling behaviour.

Is this used for any sport other than footy?

> Sit up like Jacky: To brightly and conspicuously pay attention to what one
> is being told. In the main, dogs and children _sit up like Jacky_. Adults
> seldom do.

Haven't heard this.

> Smell of an oil rag: An expression applied to any newcomer to Australia if
> she or he works hard and does well. People who are said to be able to
> 'live off the _smell of an oil rag_' are those who, in other words,
> sacrifice present comfort to future prosperity.

...

This makes no sense whatsoever. A car is said to run on the smell of an oily
rag if it has good fuel economy. I've never heard it applied to a person.

> Snags: Snorkers or sausages. Rarely if ever used in the singular form.

Haven't heard 'snorkers.' Some of us also use the English word 'bangers,'
especially if we're having them with 'mash.'

> Sool: To encourage one dog to attack either another dog, animal or person
> as in, 'Go on then, get into 'im, _sool_ the _bastard_.' The dog in
> question is encouraged to do serious injury, if not cause actual death.

Haven't heard this, but I'm not a dog person.

> Squattocracy: A member of the colonial landholding aristocracy. A rich
> land owner. Derisive term.

Nor this.

> Starve the lizards: An expression of amazement or incredulity. A
> downmarket version of the English expression, By Jove!
> Stone the crows: Used in conjunction with _starve the lizards_ or by
> itself as an expression of amazement about either good or bad events. In
> actuality both expressions have no meaning whatsoever.
> Strike a light: An expression of very little meaning usually inserted at
> the beginning of a sentence simply to give the speaker time to collect his
> thoughts, as in, '_Strike a light_, but she's a bloody beaut day.'

These are all much the same. 'Stone the crows' would be the most common.

> Stoush: A punch up or fight.

Hadn't heard this.

> Strong: As in, 'What's the _strong_ of this?,' meaning, 'What in the name
> of hell is going on?' If used in the personal sense it is normally
> expressed as, 'What's the _strength_ of that bastard?,' meaning, 'What is
> the swine up to?'

Haven't heard this.

> Stubby: A small Australian beer bottle. Never used in reference to foreign
> beers even if they do come in stubbies.

Stubbies are 375mL, longnecks are 750mL, throw-downs are 250mL. Tinnies are
375mL cans.

> Swan: One can either be 'on a _swan_' or '_swanning around_.' Swanning is
> loafing, although if one is swanning around one is a travelling loafer or
> _swaggie_. To confuse the issue if one '_swans_ around all day' it usually
> means one has had an agreeable time at several different boozers. Swanning
> around at work means hiding in the bog.

Haven't heard these.
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