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Brinner

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Jan 5, 2005, 11:36:04 AM1/5/05
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"1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.

The basic thrust of the book is that Chinese sailors actually circum
navigated the world and discovered the Americas and Australia well before
the Europeans explorers. It was a Christmas present from my sister as it
happens and so far is a really good read, about 100 pages in. One for the
history buffs among you.

On an unrelated note, I finally saw Blade: Trilogy last night. Still don't
know if I liked it that much. There simply wasn't enough violence.


Brinner


Yog-Sothoth

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Jan 5, 2005, 4:03:32 PM1/5/05
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Goat like "Brinner" <briank...@lycos.com> while grazing in
<crh5k9$fpt$1...@kermit.esat.net>, made the following shapes:

Stop reading none sense and read the Malazan books if you haven't
already.

I am rereading Memories of Ice atm, and it kicks ass more than the
first time I read it :D

keatin...@gmail.com

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Jan 5, 2005, 4:57:18 PM1/5/05
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Yog-Sothoth wrote:
> Goat like "Brinner" <briank...@lycos.com> while grazing in
> <crh5k9$fpt$1...@kermit.esat.net>, made the following shapes:
> > "1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.
> >
> > The basic thrust of the book is that Chinese sailors actually
circum
> > navigated the world and discovered the Americas and Australia well
before
> > the Europeans explorers. It was a Christmas present from my sister
as it
> > happens and so far is a really good read, about 100 pages in. One
for the
> > history buffs among you.
> >
> > On an unrelated note, I finally saw Blade: Trilogy last night.
Still don't
> > know if I liked it that much. There simply wasn't enough violence.
> >
>
> Stop reading none sense and read the Malazan books if you haven't
> already.

No. I sm not reading fantasy until Knife of Dreams comes out, or maybe
Feast of Crows, whichever comes first.

Brinner

Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 5, 2005, 7:13:11 PM1/5/05
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "Brinner"

<briank...@lycos.com> wrote:
>"1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.

You mean 1421?

*grin*

Or is yours the prequel?

>The basic thrust of the book is that Chinese sailors actually circum
>navigated the world and discovered the Americas and Australia well before
>the Europeans explorers.

Well it's known that Eric the read discovered North America around,
what, 1000 AD?

> It was a Christmas present from my sister as it
>happens and so far is a really good read, about 100 pages in. One for the
>history buffs among you.

Note taken.

>On an unrelated note, I finally saw Blade: Trilogy last night. Still don't
>know if I liked it that much. There simply wasn't enough violence.

It looks like a fun BST movie.

>Brinner


Ilya the Recusant
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Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 5, 2005, 7:17:52 PM1/5/05
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Yog-Sothoth

<allo...@gmail.mymailboxgtfo.com> wrote:
>Goat like "Brinner" <briank...@lycos.com> while grazing in
><crh5k9$fpt$1...@kermit.esat.net>, made the following shapes:
>> "1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.
>>
>> The basic thrust of the book is that Chinese sailors actually circum
>> navigated the world and discovered the Americas and Australia well before
>> the Europeans explorers. It was a Christmas present from my sister as it
>> happens and so far is a really good read, about 100 pages in. One for the
>> history buffs among you.
>>
>> On an unrelated note, I finally saw Blade: Trilogy last night. Still don't
>> know if I liked it that much. There simply wasn't enough violence.
>>
>
>Stop reading none sense

None Sense: A ghost story about blind people being harassed by ghosts.

> and read the Malazan books if you haven't
>already.

Guh. No thank you.

>I am rereading Memories of Ice atm, and it kicks ass more than the
>first time I read it :D

Mmm. Nah. The first two were boring enough that I don't need a
hat-trick.

Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 5, 2005, 7:18:46 PM1/5/05
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space,

How about Heroes Die?


Or The Night Watch (if it's been translated to English).

>Brinner

~Brian~

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Jan 5, 2005, 7:42:32 PM1/5/05
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Dude, you do know that the new Goodkind came out this week!

Sheesh - some people.


:)

~Brian
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keatin...@gmail.com

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Jan 5, 2005, 9:21:00 PM1/5/05
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Ilya the Recusant wrote:
> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "Brinner"
> <briank...@lycos.com> wrote:
> >"1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.
>
> You mean 1421?

Yup. Fuck
>
> *grin*

Keep the smugness to yourself.

> Or is yours the prequel?
> >The basic thrust of the book is that Chinese sailors actually circum
> >navigated the world and discovered the Americas and Australia well
before
> >the Europeans explorers.
>
> Well it's known that Eric the read discovered North America around,
> what, 1000 AD?

True.

> > It was a Christmas present from my sister as it
> >happens and so far is a really good read, about 100 pages in. One
for the
> >history buffs among you.
>
> Note taken.
>
> >On an unrelated note, I finally saw Blade: Trilogy last night. Still
don't
> >know if I liked it that much. There simply wasn't enough violence.
>
> It looks like a fun BST movie.

BST?

Brinner

Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 6, 2005, 2:11:34 AM1/6/05
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space,
keatin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>Ilya the Recusant wrote:
>> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "Brinner"
>> <briank...@lycos.com> wrote:
>> >"1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.
>>
>> You mean 1421?
>
>Yup. Fuck

What, right now?

Oh, all right.

*unbuckles belt*

>> *grin*
>
>Keep the smugness to yourself.

I like sharing, you giant penis.

>> Or is yours the prequel?
>> >The basic thrust of the book is that Chinese sailors actually circum
>> >navigated the world and discovered the Americas and Australia well
>before
>> >the Europeans explorers.
>>
>> Well it's known that Eric the read discovered North America around,
>> what, 1000 AD?
>
>True.

And before that, Agrarian...Paleolithic (I think?) man wandered from
modern day Russia across the Bering Strait into North America, and
down into South America.

>> > It was a Christmas present from my sister as it
>> >happens and so far is a really good read, about 100 pages in. One
>for the
>> >history buffs among you.
>>
>> Note taken.
>>
>> >On an unrelated note, I finally saw Blade: Trilogy last night. Still
>don't
>> >know if I liked it that much. There simply wasn't enough violence.
>>
>> It looks like a fun BST movie.
>
>BST?

Bright Shiny Thing.

And is that Banky the Vampire Hunter I see there?

Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 6, 2005, 2:14:22 AM1/6/05
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, ~Brian~

<bbra...@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>Brinner wrote:
>> "1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.
>>
>> The basic thrust of the book is that Chinese sailors actually circum
>> navigated the world and discovered the Americas and Australia well before
>> the Europeans explorers. It was a Christmas present from my sister as it
>> happens and so far is a really good read, about 100 pages in. One for the
>> history buffs among you.
>>
>> On an unrelated note, I finally saw Blade: Trilogy last night. Still don't
>> know if I liked it that much. There simply wasn't enough violence.
>>
>>
>> Brinner
>>
>>
>
>Dude, you do know that the new Goodkind came out this week!
>
>Sheesh - some people.
>
>
>:)
>
>~Brian

I liked this part best:

GOODKIND'S LATEST BLOCKBUSTER

THE FIRST VOLUME IN THE CHAINFIRE TRILOGY THAT WILL CONCLUDE
THE SWORD OF TRUTH SERIES

ON-SALE JANUARY 4, 2005!


It's not even out yet, and it's a Blockbuster.

That sounds funny.

TheKro

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Jan 6, 2005, 1:42:38 PM1/6/05
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Ilya the Recusant wrote:
> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space,
> keatin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Ilya the Recusant wrote:
>>
>>>In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "Brinner"
>>><briank...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.
>>>
>>>You mean 1421?
>>
>>Yup. Fuck
>
>
> What, right now?
>
> Oh, all right.
>
> *unbuckles belt*
>
>
>>>*grin*
>>
>>Keep the smugness to yourself.
>
>
> I like sharing, you giant penis.
>

If you're going to talk to it, can you go someplace else?


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Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 6, 2005, 6:27:32 PM1/6/05
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, TheKro

<skr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Ilya the Recusant wrote:
>> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space,
>> keatin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Ilya the Recusant wrote:
>>>
>>>>In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "Brinner"
>>>><briank...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.
>>>>
>>>>You mean 1421?
>>>
>>>Yup. Fuck
>>
>>
>> What, right now?
>>
>> Oh, all right.
>>
>> *unbuckles belt*
>>
>>
>>>>*grin*
>>>
>>>Keep the smugness to yourself.
>>
>>
>> I like sharing, you giant penis.
>>
>
>If you're going to talk to it, can you go someplace else?

Look!

*puts wig on foreskin*

It should be alright now.

Chucky & Janica

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Jan 7, 2005, 11:53:19 AM1/7/05
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Once upon a time - for example, Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:36:04 -0000 - there
was this guy, or something, called "Brinner" <briank...@lycos.com>,
and they made us all feel better by saying the following stuff:

>"1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.

[J] I've seen that at the shops, but never picked it up. Can you give
a short run-down of what backing does he offer for his case? I'm
fairly sure that's the same period in time that Chinese monks had
contact with Africa, but I haven't yet seen any concrete evidence for
links with America.

C&J

--
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- 13 & 13b of 12, the CMM Collective.
- www.afrj-monkeyhouse.org

Yog-Sothoth

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Jan 7, 2005, 6:53:09 PM1/7/05
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Goat like "Ilya the Recusant" <q...@deadspam.net> while grazing in
<vk0pt0tthrdpq9ls9...@4ax.com>, made the following
shapes:
> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Yog-Sothoth
> <allo...@gmail.mymailboxgtfo.com> wrote:
> >Goat like "Brinner" <briank...@lycos.com> while grazing in
> ><crh5k9$fpt$1...@kermit.esat.net>, made the following shapes:
> >> "1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.
> >>
> >> The basic thrust of the book is that Chinese sailors actually circum
> >> navigated the world and discovered the Americas and Australia well before
> >> the Europeans explorers. It was a Christmas present from my sister as it
> >> happens and so far is a really good read, about 100 pages in. One for the
> >> history buffs among you.
> >>
> >> On an unrelated note, I finally saw Blade: Trilogy last night. Still don't
> >> know if I liked it that much. There simply wasn't enough violence.
> >>
> >
> >Stop reading none sense
>
> None Sense: A ghost story about blind people being harassed by ghosts.

Funny but my spell checker splits "nonsense" and makes it "none
sense"

Cool!

> > and read the Malazan books if you haven't
> >already.
>
> Guh. No thank you.

Why not? It kicks ass! The first one is not that good but the longer
in the better he gets!

> >I am rereading Memories of Ice atm, and it kicks ass more than the
> >first time I read it :D
>
> Mmm. Nah. The first two were boring enough that I don't need a
> hat-trick.

Well the 3rd is much much better. I liked the second more than the
first too. The 4th is even better. The guy evidently learns from his
mistakes :)

Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 8, 2005, 12:23:11 AM1/8/05
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Yog-Sothoth
<allo...@gmail.mymailboxgtfo.com> wrote:
>Goat like "Ilya the Recusant" <q...@deadspam.net> while grazing in
><vk0pt0tthrdpq9ls9...@4ax.com>, made the following
>shapes:
>> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Yog-Sothoth
>> <allo...@gmail.mymailboxgtfo.com> wrote:
>> >Goat like "Brinner" <briank...@lycos.com> while grazing in
>> ><crh5k9$fpt$1...@kermit.esat.net>, made the following shapes:
>> >> "1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.
>> >>
>> >> The basic thrust of the book is that Chinese sailors actually circum
>> >> navigated the world and discovered the Americas and Australia well before
>> >> the Europeans explorers. It was a Christmas present from my sister as it
>> >> happens and so far is a really good read, about 100 pages in. One for the
>> >> history buffs among you.
>> >>
>> >> On an unrelated note, I finally saw Blade: Trilogy last night. Still don't
>> >> know if I liked it that much. There simply wasn't enough violence.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Stop reading none sense
>>
>> None Sense: A ghost story about blind people being harassed by ghosts.
>
>Funny but my spell checker splits "nonsense" and makes it "none
>sense"

Interestingly, my UK settings in MSWord don't break it up into two
words. But that's because it spelt it nonsense.

None Sense also works.

>Cool!

Yeeaah!

Uh..

>> > and read the Malazan books if you haven't
>> >already.
>>
>> Guh. No thank you.
>
>Why not? It kicks ass! The first one is not that good but the longer
>in the better he gets!

No no. It gets progressively more boring.

>> >I am rereading Memories of Ice atm, and it kicks ass more than the
>> >first time I read it :D
>>
>> Mmm. Nah. The first two were boring enough that I don't need a
>> hat-trick.
>
>Well the 3rd is much much better. I liked the second more than the
>first too. The 4th is even better. The guy evidently learns from his
>mistakes :)


Uh-huh.

I'll continue avoiding him after having suffered Deadhouse Gates.

Chucky & Janica

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Jan 8, 2005, 8:47:38 AM1/8/05
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Once upon a time - for example, Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:53:09 -0000 - there
was this guy, or something, called Yog-Sothoth
<allo...@gmail.mymailboxgtfo.com>, and they made us all feel better

by saying the following stuff:

>> None Sense: A ghost story about blind people being harassed by ghosts.


>
>Funny but my spell checker splits "nonsense" and makes it "none
>sense"

Your spellchecker is as stupid and Greek as you.

Jussi Uosukainen

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Jan 10, 2005, 9:48:27 AM1/10/05
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Ilya the Recusant wrote:

> And before that, Agrarian...Paleolithic (I think?) man wandered from
> modern day Russia across the Bering Strait into North America, and
> down into South America.
>

This is the thing about history. I just don't get what on earth would
make these dudes wander thru a continent. I really don't. Were most of
them like "C'mon, could we just stop already? These look like nice
parts, we could live here!" And then the biggest and meanest said "No!
Urgh think it gets better as we go south" and they just had this
discussion every couple of weeks. And then they all found themselves in
the southern tip of Argentina and died. And just before he died, the
last one says "well, california could have been nice" and died?

/jussi

Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 10, 2005, 11:09:35 AM1/10/05
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Jussi

I'll quote my book, since it doesn't give an awful explanation. (More
later, after class).

"The style of life and level of technology of the Paleolithic period
could support only a sparsely settled society. If hunters were too
numerous, game would not suffice. In Paloelithic times, people were
subjects to the same natural and ecological constraints that today
maintain a balance between wolves and deer in Alaska."

They didn't have tools that would allow them to build decent
settlements and farming tools till the Neolithic era (10,000 years
ago), so they wandered from place to place, wherever there was food
enough for any given tribe or group of people.

>/jussi

sarah n mol

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Jan 11, 2005, 10:01:51 AM1/11/05
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<keatin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm gutted I just finished a storm of swords and didn't realise there was
going to be another book have to bloody wait for georgie boy to finish the
damn thing

Sarah


>
> Brinner
>


Chucky & Janica

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Jan 11, 2005, 10:33:09 AM1/11/05
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Once upon a time - for example, Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:48:27 +0200 -
there was this guy, or something, called Jussi Uosukainen
<jusoN...@iki.fi>, and they made us all feel better by saying the
following stuff:

>This is the thing about history. I just don't get what on earth would

>make these dudes wander thru a continent. I really don't. Were most of
>them like "C'mon, could we just stop already? These look like nice
>parts, we could live here!" And then the biggest and meanest said "No!
>Urgh think it gets better as we go south" and they just had this
>discussion every couple of weeks. And then they all found themselves in
>the southern tip of Argentina and died. And just before he died, the
>last one says "well, california could have been nice" and died?

And then there's elephants.

Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 12, 2005, 10:38:26 PM1/12/05
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Chucky &

Janica <janica...@kolumbus.finland> wrote:
>Once upon a time - for example, Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:48:27 +0200 -
>there was this guy, or something, called Jussi Uosukainen
><jusoN...@iki.fi>, and they made us all feel better by saying the
>following stuff:
>
>>This is the thing about history. I just don't get what on earth would
>>make these dudes wander thru a continent. I really don't. Were most of
>>them like "C'mon, could we just stop already? These look like nice
>>parts, we could live here!" And then the biggest and meanest said "No!
>>Urgh think it gets better as we go south" and they just had this
>>discussion every couple of weeks. And then they all found themselves in
>>the southern tip of Argentina and died. And just before he died, the
>>last one says "well, california could have been nice" and died?
>
>And then there's elephants.

And Alexander the Butcher.

>C&J

Ilya the Recusant

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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "sarah n


Several more.

>Sarah
>
>
>>
>> Brinner

sarah n mol

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"Ilya the Recusant" <q...@deadspam.net> wrote in message
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ARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH


But they will die before they finish them and I will not be able to function
with half a story in my head

Just gonna slit my wrists now!!!!!

Are there any finished series/trilogies in this vein? except for Lord of the
Rings and the Dark Tower stuff from SK

Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 13, 2005, 5:48:13 PM1/13/05
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Sure.

Heroes Die and Blade of Tyshalle by Matthew Woodring Stover.

sarah n mol

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Jan 14, 2005, 5:41:20 AM1/14/05
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"Ilya the Recusant" <q...@deadspam.net> wrote in message
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Thanks for that will get onto it


Sarah

Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 14, 2005, 3:36:33 PM1/14/05
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Keen. Let us know when you stop reading out of utter disgust at the
lack of cute elves and bunnies.

>Sarah

keatin...@gmail.com

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Jan 16, 2005, 5:57:26 AM1/16/05
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Chucky & Janica wrote:
> Once upon a time - for example, Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:36:04 -0000 -
there
> was this guy, or something, called "Brinner"
<briank...@lycos.com>,
> and they made us all feel better by saying the following stuff:
>
> >"1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.
>
> [J] I've seen that at the shops, but never picked it up. Can you give
> a short run-down of what backing does he offer for his case? I'm
> fairly sure that's the same period in time that Chinese monks had
> contact with Africa, but I haven't yet seen any concrete evidence for
> links with America.
>

I want to reply but need to get some things straight in my noggin
first, I'll get back to you.

Brinner

sarah n mol

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"Ilya the Recusant" <q...@deadspam.net> wrote in message
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I must say I can quite happily cope without cute elves and fluffy bunnies, I
much prefer a good scrap and loads of blood and entrails


Sarah

Ilya the Recusant

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The Acts of Caine, as I call them (Heroes Die, Blade of Tyshalle, and
the upcoming Caine: Black Knife) has lots of that.

And lesbian elves. And lesbian faeries.

Touching each other.

Oh it's fun.

sarah n mol

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"Ilya the Recusant" <q...@deadspam.net> wrote in message
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> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "sarah n
> mol" <se...@molloymol.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I must say I can quite happily cope without cute elves and fluffy bunnies,
>>I
>>much prefer a good scrap and loads of blood and entrails
>
> The Acts of Caine, as I call them (Heroes Die, Blade of Tyshalle, and
> the upcoming Caine: Black Knife) has lots of that.
>
> And lesbian elves. And lesbian faeries.
>
> Touching each other.
>
> Oh it's fun.

thats sounds more like my sort of story i must say.


sarah

Chucky & Janica

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Jan 17, 2005, 11:04:05 AM1/17/05
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Once upon a time - for example, 16 Jan 2005 02:57:26 -0800 - there was
this guy, or something, called keatin...@gmail.com, and they made

us all feel better by saying the following stuff:

>> >"1412: The year China Discovered the World".by Gavin Menzies.
>>
>> [J] I've seen that at the shops, but never picked it up. Can you give
>> a short run-down of what backing does he offer for his case? I'm
>> fairly sure that's the same period in time that Chinese monks had
>> contact with Africa, but I haven't yet seen any concrete evidence for
>> links with America.
>
>I want to reply but need to get some things straight in my noggin
>first, I'll get back to you.

[J] Hah, no problem. I usually have to do that too when I read
something new. I read the introduction, the I read the book, then I
read the introduction again to figure out what I just read.

Ilya the Recusant

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Jan 17, 2005, 1:49:15 PM1/17/05
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mol" <se...@molloymol.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>"Ilya the Recusant" <q...@deadspam.net> wrote in message
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>> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "sarah n
>> mol" <se...@molloymol.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>I must say I can quite happily cope without cute elves and fluffy bunnies,
>>>I
>>>much prefer a good scrap and loads of blood and entrails
>>
>> The Acts of Caine, as I call them (Heroes Die, Blade of Tyshalle, and
>> the upcoming Caine: Black Knife) has lots of that.
>>
>> And lesbian elves. And lesbian faeries.
>>
>> Touching each other.
>>
>> Oh it's fun.
>
>thats sounds more like my sort of story i must say.

Then go forth my reader, and...read. Stover is waiting.

>sarah

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