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Areff D  
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 More options Dec 18 1997, 3:00 am
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From: are...@aol.com (Areff D)
Date: 1997/12/18
Subject: Crown of Swords cover

Hey, I was at Barnes and Noble tonight and saw the paperback of Crown of Swords
with the original Darrell K. Sweet hardcover artwork.  Anybody know why it was
released with the no-art cover and now with the artwork?  Was there maybe some
dispute with Sweet about using his art on the paperback?  Anybody have any
ideas?

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 More options Dec 19 1997, 3:00 am
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From: fluffy_...@hotmail.com (Fluffy One)
Date: 1997/12/19
Subject: Re: Crown of Swords cover

are...@aol.com (Areff D) wrote:
>Hey, I was at Barnes and Noble tonight and saw the paperback of Crown of Swords
>with the original Darrell K. Sweet hardcover artwork.  Anybody know why it was
>released with the no-art cover and now with the artwork?  Was there maybe some
>dispute with Sweet about using his art on the paperback?  Anybody have any
>ideas?

Dunno, but here in Sweden, I have only seen the DKS version.

The Fluffy One
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Ben Stahl  
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 More options Dec 21 1997, 3:00 am
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From: vis...@hooked.net (Ben Stahl)
Date: 1997/12/21
Subject: Re: Crown of Swords cover

In article <19971218050800.AAA22...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, are...@aol.com

(Areff D) wrote:
> Hey, I was at Barnes and Noble tonight and saw the paperback of Crown of
Swords
> with the original Darrell K. Sweet hardcover artwork.  Anybody know why it was
> released with the no-art cover and now with the artwork?  Was there maybe some
> dispute with Sweet about using his art on the paperback?  Anybody have any
> ideas?

There should be a dispute with Sweet's artwork. There should _always_ be a
dispute about this -- but disputed by Tor, not Sweet. Interesting, though.
I haven't seen that new cover. And me with my one book that doesn't match.

-- Ben


 
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Andrew J Codling  
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 More options Dec 26 1997, 3:00 am
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From: and...@starshineajc.demon.co.uk (Andrew J Codling)
Date: 1997/12/26
Subject: Re: Crown of Swords cover

On Sun, 21 Dec 1997 01:00:25 -0800, vis...@hooked.net (Ben Stahl)
wrote:

>In article <19971218050800.AAA22...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, are...@aol.com
>(Areff D) wrote:

>> Hey, I was at Barnes and Noble tonight and saw the paperback of Crown of
>Swords
>> with the original Darrell K. Sweet hardcover artwork.  Anybody know why it was
>> released with the no-art cover and now with the artwork?  Was there maybe some
>> dispute with Sweet about using his art on the paperback?  Anybody have any
>> ideas?

>There should be a dispute with Sweet's artwork. There should _always_ be a
>dispute about this -- but disputed by Tor, not Sweet. Interesting, though.
>I haven't seen that new cover. And me with my one book that doesn't match.

>-- Ben

Never mind Ben pop over to Blighty I too have only ever seen the art
worked cover

 
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Chris Douglas  
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 More options Dec 26 1997, 3:00 am
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From: Chris Douglas <cdoug...@io.com>
Date: 1997/12/26
Subject: Re: Crown of Swords cover

> >There should be a dispute with Sweet's artwork. There should _always_ be a
> >dispute about this -- but disputed by Tor, not Sweet. Interesting, though.
> >I haven't seen that new cover. And me with my one book that doesn't match.

> >-- Ben

Frankly, I was relieved to see the art-free cover.  Even when he tries
Sweet is a competent artist at best, but his Jordan covers are
attrocious.  Nevermind the dull subject matters, lifeless poses, and
dubious visual interpretations: some of the basic drawing mistakes bound
into the realm of the embarrassing.  Some of the earlier covers indicate
some degree of commitment, but I'd be surprised if the thoroughly
amateurish "Lord of Chaos" cover took him more than an afternoon.  These
works are more appropriate to cheap romance novels than mainstream
best-sellers.  It would be hard for Tor to choose less appealing
frontspieces for its merchandise.  These covers are off-putting, and
serve to give the otherwise noteworthy series an air of rather low
quality.

--Chris Douglas


 
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Justin Bacon  
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 More options Dec 27 1997, 3:00 am
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From: Justin Bacon <tr...@prairie.lakes.com>
Date: 1997/12/27
Subject: Re: Crown of Swords cover

Chris Douglas wrote:
>  It would be hard for Tor to choose less appealing
> frontspieces for its merchandise.  These covers are off-putting, and
> serve to give the otherwise noteworthy series an air of rather low
> quality.

Honestly, I didn't buy into the series for the longest time -- despite
the accolades -- because the series looked, well, cheap. The covers are
atrocious and have been getting steadily *worse* -- it's unreal for a
tremendous series like this to be burdened with such horrendous covers,
while other books of dubious quality garner excellent cover artists.

Of course this is a tradition with a rather long history. The Berkeley
covers for Tolkien were atrocious, and the covers specially designed for
the anniversary edition in the late-'80s were worse.

Justin Bacon
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fabian.meyer  
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 More options Dec 28 1997, 3:00 am
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From: "fabian.meyer" <fabian.me...@metronet.de>
Date: 1997/12/28
Subject: Re: Crown of Swords cover

Andrew J Codling schrieb in Nachricht <34a3edbc.4226...@news.demon.co.uk>...

>>There should be a dispute with Sweet's artwork. There should _always_ be a
>>dispute about this -- but disputed by Tor, not Sweet. Interesting, though.
>>I haven't seen that new cover. And me with my one book that doesn't match.

>>-- Ben

>Never mind Ben pop over to Blighty I too have only ever seen the art
>worked cover

If you are thinking Sweets ARTWORK is bad you have to keep wide clear of the
"ART" on the paperbacks of the German translation. They're not only ten
times worse than Sweet's there are also twice as many, because the German
translations only contain half of one original book, so you have to buy
twice as many. Luckily my bookstore also sells the English originals.
BTW if anyody thought TWORJWOT expensive with 39$, they're wrong. I was very
surprised to see the TWORJWOT in the stores only one week after the
publishing date, but then I saw the price of 140 Deutsche Mark which is
twice as much as the original 39 $, So does anyone know a good online
bookstore that is also delivering to Germany?

Fabian Meyer ( fabian.me...@metronet.de )


 
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Doc Hogan  
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 More options Dec 28 1997, 3:00 am
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From: "Doc Hogan" <docho...@hotmail.com>
Date: 1997/12/28
Subject: Re: Crown of Swords cover

Try http://www.amazon.com
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Sam Spencer  
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 More options Dec 30 1997, 3:00 am
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From: "Sam Spencer" <s...@spen.demon.co.uk>
Date: 1997/12/30
Subject: Re: Crown of Swords cover

Hear hear old bean! I think DKS's artwork is inaccurate, but  who cares? And
once I've started collecting a series, I like to have continuity with things
like the artwork, in case I ever pass them on to my kids, or they become
antiques or whatever.

Hurrah for good old Britain!

Sam


 
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Sam Spencer  
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From: "Sam Spencer" <s...@spen.demon.co.uk>
Date: 1997/12/30
Subject: Re: Crown of Swords cover

Fluffy One wrote in message <349b6118.4799...@nntpserver.swip.net>...
>are...@aol.com (Areff D) wrote:

>>Hey, I was at Barnes and Noble tonight and saw the paperback of Crown of
Swords
>>with the original Darrell K. Sweet hardcover artwork.  Anybody know why it
was
>>released with the no-art cover and now with the artwork?  Was there maybe
some
>>dispute with Sweet about using his art on the paperback?  Anybody have any
>>ideas?

>Dunno, but here in Sweden, I have only seen the DKS version.

And here in the UK too.

Sam
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david thornton  
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 More options Jan 6 1998, 3:00 am
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From: david thornton <reneg...@dial.pipex.com>
Date: 1998/01/06
Subject: Re: Crown of Swords cover

you should try to get the english version of tworjwot it is £25 which by
my calculations is around 75DM

 
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acro.and.antnee  
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 More options Jan 11 1998, 3:00 am
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From: acro.and.ant...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Date: 1998/01/11
Subject: Re: Crown of Swords cover

amazon.com is a good book store. i got mine there and it cost about 28$
to 30$. dont know about shipping and handiling
brian

 
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