I went to see the new "imagining" of Star Trek the other nights.
There
might be some spoilers, I have no idea what I'm about to write, now
do
I.
Good things:
-Leonard Nemoy
-Explosions, lots and lots of them.
-Simon Pegg as Scottie
-Uhuru, praise the lord for that woman.
-Romulans, I love those pointy eared, sneaky bastards. They are my
favourite Star Trek alien by far.
-I didn't want to punch any of the actors in the face for ruining
Star
Trek.
-I have no idea how long the film was, it went by in a flash.
Bad things:
-My feet were killing me from walking around all day when I went to
see it. But I can hardly blame JJ Abrams for that, or can I.
10/10 for being Star Trek, 9/10 for being a well rounded film, 11/10
for things exploding.
Go see it!
Brinner
> Thats right my bookish friends, its the post you're all been holding
> your breath for.
So I can breathe now?
> I went to see the new "imagining" of Star Trek the other nights.
> There might be some spoilers, I have no idea what I'm about to write, now
> do I.
Clearly.
> Good things:
> -Leonard Nemoy
He was good. Funny that they let him be in it but not Shatner. I guess
Nimoy was a whole lot less of a giant melodramatic boofhead about it.
But that's just, you know, my guess.
> -Explosions, lots and lots of them.
Agreed.
> -Simon Pegg as Scottie
He was good too. I could tell he was loving every opportunity to
deliver Scotty lines like "I canna give it any more power!".
> -Uhuru, praise the lord for that woman.
She's come a long way from smacking Captain Jack Sparrow inna face.
> -Romulans, I love those pointy eared, sneaky bastards. They are my
> favourite Star Trek alien by far.
Yeah, these were funky ones but they are generally fun. They were cool
in the Original Series too.
> -I didn't want to punch any of the actors in the face for ruining
> Star Trek.
Ha! Agreed.
> -I have no idea how long the film was, it went by in a flash.
*nod*
> Bad things:
> -My feet were killing me from walking around all day when I went to
> see it. But I can hardly blame JJ Abrams for that, or can I.
You know what would have been cool? He could have filmed it "Lost"-
style. Intercut an episode of the Original Series, zoom in on each
character and then show their scenes in flashback-format.
> 10/10 for being Star Trek, 9/10 for being a well rounded film, 11/10
> for things exploding.
I thought it was easily the best Star Trek movie yet, but it does tend
to stand apart from the others. All the other movies had some
connection to the TV shows that were contemporary to them, but this
one had no real connection apart from the character names and the
funny dinner-plate spaceships.
Definitely cool, but hard to judge as a Trek film. I don't know quite
what to think about that.
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film?utm_source=a-section
Just in case you haven't seen it. Hee hee.
> Go see it!
I want to see it again.
Interested in seeing how they reconcile this new timeline with the
rest of the movies and episodes. If at all.
I guess the Trek show is over, so no worries there.
C@w
--
Not sure I'd go as far as the Onion-interviewed fans ... but there was
a certain disconnect. It wasn't necessarily a bad thing though. It's
long since time the Trek movies broke their curse and got on with good
movies. Maybe this was the only way.
"Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom" <st.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 11 touko, 10:59, Brinner <keating.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thats right my bookish friends, its the post you're all been holding
>> your breath for.
>
> So I can breathe now?
>
>> I went to see the new "imagining" of Star Trek the other nights.
>> There might be some spoilers, I have no idea what I'm about to write, now
>> do I.
>
> Clearly.
>
>> Good things:
>> -Leonard Nemoy
>
> He was good. Funny that they let him be in it but not Shatner. I guess
> Nimoy was a whole lot less of a giant melodramatic boofhead about it.
> But that's just, you know, my guess.
>
>> -Explosions, lots and lots of them.
>
> Agreed.
Lot's of good action scenes and the actors were good in their
characterizations.
sk
>
>> -Simon Pegg as Scottie
>
> He was good too. I could tell he was loving every opportunity to
> deliver Scotty lines like "I canna give it any more power!".
>
>> -Uhuru, praise the lord for that woman.
>
> She's come a long way from smacking Captain Jack Sparrow inna face.
>
>> -Romulans, I love those pointy eared, sneaky bastards. They are my
>> favourite Star Trek alien by far.
>
> Yeah, these were funky ones but they are generally fun. They were cool
> in the Original Series too.
>
But these had no head ridges like the other movies...they're as different
from the other depictions of Romulans as the Klingons were from the original
series.
sk
sk
>> -I didn't want to punch any of the actors in the face for ruining
>> Star Trek.
>
> Ha! Agreed.
>
>> -I have no idea how long the film was, it went by in a flash.
>
> *nod*
>
>> Bad things:
>> -My feet were killing me from walking around all day when I went to
>> see it. But I can hardly blame JJ Abrams for that, or can I.
>
> You know what would have been cool? He could have filmed it "Lost"-
> style. Intercut an episode of the Original Series, zoom in on each
> character and then show their scenes in flashback-format.
>
>> 10/10 for being Star Trek, 9/10 for being a well rounded film, 11/10
>> for things exploding.
>
> I thought it was easily the best Star Trek movie yet, but it does tend
> to stand apart from the others. All the other movies had some
> connection to the TV shows that were contemporary to them, but this
> one had no real connection apart from the character names and the
> funny dinner-plate spaceships.
Not sure I agree that this was the best of the lot...I was a little
disappointed in the plot that left everything in an alternate timeline. For
those of you that like Romulans, I still think the best Romulan plotline was
the one from the original series with Mark Lenard as the Romulan Commander
(take off of a classic WWII submarine movie).
I did like the movie, but I didn't come out of it with a WOW like I did with
Ironman last year...maybe I will with Transformers 2 (trailers look really
good).
sk
> >> -Romulans, I love those pointy eared, sneaky bastards. They are my
> >> favourite Star Trek alien by far.
>
> > Yeah, these were funky ones but they are generally fun. They were cool
> > in the Original Series too.
>
> But these had no head ridges like the other movies...they're as different
> from the other depictions of Romulans as the Klingons were from the original
> series.
Well, they might have had faint ones that were hidden by their
headtats. Or they might have been a certain race/class of Romulan with
lesser ridges. Not all humans have the same-shaped heads.
I thought they did have some sort of brow-ridging.
> >> 10/10 for being Star Trek, 9/10 for being a well rounded film, 11/10
> >> for things exploding.
>
> > I thought it was easily the best Star Trek movie yet, but it does tend
> > to stand apart from the others. All the other movies had some
> > connection to the TV shows that were contemporary to them, but this
> > one had no real connection apart from the character names and the
> > funny dinner-plate spaceships.
>
> Not sure I agree that this was the best of the lot...I was a little
> disappointed in the plot that left everything in an alternate timeline.
You kiddin'? I was terrified at the end that they were going to
somehow reset everything.
How often do you get a bad guy who actually manages to succeed in his
plot, and still lose in the end? Bruce banner imploded motherfuckin'
Vulcan! I say, screw the old timeline!
> I did like the movie, but I didn't come out of it with a WOW like I did with
> Ironman last year...maybe I will with Transformers 2 (trailers look really
> good).
Yeah, it'll be BST-ey but I'm really not expecting anything beyond
special effects. That's the mindset to go into with these movies. If
they can turn planes and cars into giant motherfuckin' robots, I'll be
happy. The rest is just a bonus.
C@w
--
Breakfast break.
You can, but will you?
>
> > I went to see the new "imagining" of Star Trek the other nights.
> > There might be some spoilers, I have no idea what I'm about to write, now
> > do I.
>
> Clearly.
>
> > Good things:
> > -Leonard Nemoy
>
> He was good. Funny that they let him be in it but not Shatner. I guess
> Nimoy was a whole lot less of a giant melodramatic boofhead about it.
> But that's just, you know, my guess.
To put it more bluntly, I believe it was because Shatner is an
arsehole.
> > -Explosions, lots and lots of them.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > -Simon Pegg as Scottie
>
> He was good too. I could tell he was loving every opportunity to
> deliver Scotty lines like "I canna give it any more power!".
I did lauch quite loud at that bit.
> > -Uhuru, praise the lord for that woman.
>
> She's come a long way from smacking Captain Jack Sparrow inna face.
I hate them pirates films, who was she in that?
> > -Romulans, I love those pointy eared, sneaky bastards. They are my
> > favourite Star Trek alien by far.
>
> Yeah, these were funky ones but they are generally fun. They were cool
> in the Original Series too.
They are the only culture to remain cool during all the incarnations
of Star Trek. The Klingons lost all there mystique a long time ago,
the Cardasians were never cool and the Dominion were just annoying.
>
> > -I didn't want to punch any of the actors in the face for ruining
> > Star Trek.
>
> Ha! Agreed.
Its strange to feel that way about a remake, isn't it.
> > -I have no idea how long the film was, it went by in a flash.
>
> *nod*
>
> > Bad things:
> > -My feet were killing me from walking around all day when I went to
> > see it. But I can hardly blame JJ Abrams for that, or can I.
>
> You know what would have been cool? He could have filmed it "Lost"-
> style. Intercut an episode of the Original Series, zoom in on each
> character and then show their scenes in flashback-format.
That could well be done on youtube within weeks.
> > 10/10 for being Star Trek, 9/10 for being a well rounded film, 11/10
> > for things exploding.
>
> I thought it was easily the best Star Trek movie yet, but it does tend
> to stand apart from the others. All the other movies had some
> connection to the TV shows that were contemporary to them, but this
> one had no real connection apart from the character names and the
> funny dinner-plate spaceships.
I don't know about the best yet. I still think the Wrath of Khan was.
> Definitely cool, but hard to judge as a Trek film. I don't know quite
> what to think about that.
>
> http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_fil...
>
> Just in case you haven't seen it. Hee hee.
>
> > Go see it!
>
> I want to see it again.
>
> Interested in seeing how they reconcile this new timeline with the
> rest of the movies and episodes. If at all.
I don't think they will make any attempt to reconcile the timelines,
in fact I think they made it quite clear there's no way they can.
> I guess the Trek show is over, so no worries there.
>
Enterprise was a pile of steaming shit, so I'm happy.
> --
> Not sure I'd go as far as the Onion-interviewed fans ... but there was
> a certain disconnect. It wasn't necessarily a bad thing though. It's
> long since time the Trek movies broke their curse and got on with good
> movies. Maybe this was the only way.
I think it was time to do something completly off the wall or give up
making Trek films altogether. I'm delighted the way they went.
Brinner
Who needs ridges when you have crazy head tattoos.
> > I thought it was easily the best Star Trek movie yet, but it does tend
> > to stand apart from the others. All the other movies had some
> > connection to the TV shows that were contemporary to them, but this
> > one had no real connection apart from the character names and the
> > funny dinner-plate spaceships.
>
> Not sure I agree that this was the best of the lot...I was a little
> disappointed in the plot that left everything in an alternate timeline. Â For
> those of you that like Romulans, I still think the best Romulan plotline was
> the one from the original series with Mark Lenard as the Romulan Commander
> (take off of a classic WWII submarine movie).
That was good alright. The only time I can recall not liking a Romulan
was the blonde one, she was half human though.
> I did like the movie, but I didn't come out of it with a WOW like I did with
> Ironman last year...maybe I will with Transformers 2 (trailers look really
> good).
Ironman? Are you serious? That film was terrible. Yeah the BST's
exploded and what not, but the acting and plot were piss poor.
Brinner
> > > Thats right my bookish friends, its the post you're all been holding
> > > your breath for.
>
> > So I can breathe now?
>
> You can, but will you?
Not until you acknowledge that you can't make me.
*is turning blue*
> > He was good. Funny that they let him be in it but not Shatner. I guess
> > Nimoy was a whole lot less of a giant melodramatic boofhead about it.
> > But that's just, you know, my guess.
>
> To put it more bluntly, I believe it was because Shatner is an
> arsehole.
I get that impression.
> > > -Uhuru, praise the lord for that woman.
>
> > She's come a long way from smacking Captain Jack Sparrow inna face.
>
> I hate them pirates films, who was she in that?
She was the female pirate who they signed onto the crew, in spite of
it being bad luck. Sparrow stole her last ship, and Will offers her
the Interceptor in return for her loyalty. Of course if you hated the
movies, not much of what I just said will make sense. She slaps
Sparrow, though.
> They are the only culture to remain cool during all the incarnations
> of Star Trek. The Klingons lost all there mystique a long time ago,
> the Cardasians were never cool and the Dominion were just annoying.
That's true. Never really thought of it that way. Even when they were
sort of friends, they were cool. Although they were basically just
Vulcans with an in-universe excuse for being evil bastards.
> > > -I didn't want to punch any of the actors in the face for ruining
> > > Star Trek.
>
> > Ha! Agreed.
>
> Its strange to feel that way about a remake, isn't it.
I was all hated out, after Star Wars.
> > > -My feet were killing me from walking around all day when I went to
> > > see it. But I can hardly blame JJ Abrams for that, or can I.
>
> > You know what would have been cool? He could have filmed it "Lost"-
> > style. Intercut an episode of the Original Series, zoom in on each
> > character and then show their scenes in flashback-format.
>
> That could well be done on youtube within weeks.
I'm looking forward to it.
> > > 10/10 for being Star Trek, 9/10 for being a well rounded film, 11/10
> > > for things exploding.
>
> > I thought it was easily the best Star Trek movie yet, but it does tend
> > to stand apart from the others. All the other movies had some
> > connection to the TV shows that were contemporary to them, but this
> > one had no real connection apart from the character names and the
> > funny dinner-plate spaceships.
>
> I don't know about the best yet. I still think the Wrath of Khan was.
It gets classic points.
> > I guess the Trek show is over, so no worries there.
>
> Enterprise was a pile of steaming shit, so I'm happy.
Never really saw it. Janica doesn't let me watch porn. *grin*
C@w
--
Oh come on. We saw the first episode and it was all downhill from
there. And it started at the bottom of the hill.
I acknowledge nothing!
> > > He was good. Funny that they let him be in it but not Shatner. I guess
> > > Nimoy was a whole lot less of a giant melodramatic boofhead about it.
> > > But that's just, you know, my guess.
>
> > To put it more bluntly, I believe it was because Shatner is an
> > arsehole.
>
> I get that impression.
>
Did you know he wasn't invited to George Takei's gay wedding?
> > > > -Uhuru, praise the lord for that woman.
>
> > > She's come a long way from smacking Captain Jack Sparrow inna face.
>
> > I hate them pirates films, who was she in that?
>
> She was the female pirate who they signed onto the crew, in spite of
> it being bad luck. Sparrow stole her last ship, and Will offers her
> the Interceptor in return for her loyalty. Of course if you hated the
> movies, not much of what I just said will make sense. She slaps
> Sparrow, though.
Good for her, I would have done the same.
> > They are the only culture to remain cool during all the incarnations
> > of Star Trek. The Klingons lost all there mystique a long time ago,
> > the Cardasians were never cool and the Dominion were just annoying.
>
> That's true. Never really thought of it that way. Even when they were
> sort of friends, they were cool. Although they were basically just
> Vulcans with an in-universe excuse for being evil bastards.
Even when they were friends in DS9, I was always waiting for them to
turn evil again. Which kind of happened in Nemisis.
> > > > -I didn't want to punch any of the actors in the face for ruining
> > > > Star Trek.
>
> > > Ha! Agreed.
>
> > Its strange to feel that way about a remake, isn't it.
>
> I was all hated out, after Star Wars.
Who wasn't?
> > > > -My feet were killing me from walking around all day when I went to
> > > > see it. But I can hardly blame JJ Abrams for that, or can I.
>
> > > You know what would have been cool? He could have filmed it "Lost"-
> > > style. Intercut an episode of the Original Series, zoom in on each
> > > character and then show their scenes in flashback-format.
>
> > That could well be done on youtube within weeks.
>
> I'm looking forward to it.
>
> > > > 10/10 for being Star Trek, 9/10 for being a well rounded film, 11/10
> > > > for things exploding.
>
> > > I thought it was easily the best Star Trek movie yet, but it does tend
> > > to stand apart from the others. All the other movies had some
> > > connection to the TV shows that were contemporary to them, but this
> > > one had no real connection apart from the character names and the
> > > funny dinner-plate spaceships.
>
> > I don't know about the best yet. I still think the Wrath of Khan was.
>
> It gets classic points.
Its a classic for a reason though, not just because its old.
> > > I guess the Trek show is over, so no worries there.
>
> > Enterprise was a pile of steaming shit, so I'm happy.
>
> Never really saw it. Janica doesn't let me watch porn. *grin*
>
Burn!
> --
> Oh come on. We saw the first episode and it was all downhill from
> there. And it started at the bottom of the hill.
It was truly terrible. I kept watching every now and then in the hope
that it would get good. No chance.
Brinner
I acknowledge nothing!
> > > He was good. Funny that they let him be in it but not Shatner. I guess
> > > Nimoy was a whole lot less of a giant melodramatic boofhead about it.
> > > But that's just, you know, my guess.
>
> > To put it more bluntly, I believe it was because Shatner is an
> > arsehole.
I'm surprised that Sanders hasn't inserted a Priceline joke here.
sk
>Thats right my bookish friends, its the post you're all been holding
>your breath for.
I've heard several people complain about this movie now, I thought
most of the complaints were jokes. Mainly because the first
"complaints" I heard were in the form of a humourous Onion story, and
then the second "complaints" were from Contro, who hadn't seen the
movie.
That does tend to get you started in a surreal frame of mind.
>Good things:
>-Leonard Nemoy
>-Explosions, lots and lots of them.
>-Simon Pegg as Scottie
>-Uhuru, praise the lord for that woman.
>-Romulans, I love those pointy eared, sneaky bastards. They are my
>favourite Star Trek alien by far.
>-I didn't want to punch any of the actors in the face for ruining
>Star
>Trek.
>-I have no idea how long the film was, it went by in a flash.
Now we have finished watching Season Three of the Original Series of
Star Trek. It's all very sad. Although the pilot episode was added as
an extra, it was funny to see Captain Pike and his First Officer Majel
Barret and a bizarre shouting, laughing Spock as ... I don't know,
some sort of science officer.
>10/10 for being Star Trek, 9/10 for being a well rounded film, 11/10
>for things exploding.
>
>
>Go see it!
I will!
*goes, again*
C&J
Hi Eddie.
--
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- 13 & 13b of 12, the CMM Collective.
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Why sad?
>Although the pilot episode was added as
>an extra, it was funny to see Captain Pike and his First Officer Majel
>Barret and a bizarre shouting, laughing Spock as ... I don't know,
>some sort of science officer.
The one entitled 'The Cage', I think, right?
>>10/10 for being Star Trek, 9/10 for being a well rounded film, 11/10
>>for things exploding.
>>
>>
>>Go see it!
>
>I will!
>
>*goes, again*
Hee hee. Con Petropoulous is in a Star Trek movie. Brilliant casting.
>C&J
>
>Hi Eddie.
*waves to the Crusers, in an attempt to make an obscure movie
reference*
Ilya the Recusant
-----------------
"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
----
http://ohilya.livejournal.com/
>>Now we have finished watching Season Three of the Original Series of
>>Star Trek. It's all very sad.
>
>Why sad?
Because we've finished. There's no more.
Except Next Generation!
>>Although the pilot episode was added as
>>an extra, it was funny to see Captain Pike and his First Officer Majel
>>Barret and a bizarre shouting, laughing Spock as ... I don't know,
>>some sort of science officer.
>
>The one entitled 'The Cage', I think, right?
Yep.
>Hee hee. Con Petropoulous is in a Star Trek movie. Brilliant casting.
Con?
C&J
I just watched the Onion piece. Genius.
> That does tend to get you started in a surreal frame of mind.
So do most things though.
> >Good things:
> >-Leonard Nemoy
> >-Explosions, lots and lots of them.
> >-Simon Pegg as Scottie
> >-Uhuru, praise the lord for that woman.
> >-Romulans, I love those pointy eared, sneaky bastards. They are my
> >favourite Star Trek alien by far.
> >-I didn't want to punch any of the actors in the face for ruining
> >Star
> >Trek.
> >-I have no idea how long the film was, it went by in a flash.
>
> Now we have finished watching Season Three of the Original Series of
> Star Trek. It's all very sad. Although the pilot episode was added as
> an extra, it was funny to see Captain Pike and his First Officer Majel
> Barret and a bizarre shouting, laughing Spock as ... I don't know,
> some sort of science officer.
>
I haven't seen that in many a year, I must look into bit torrenting
it.
> >10/10 for being Star Trek, 9/10 for being a well rounded film, 11/10
> >for things exploding.
>
> >Go see it!
>
> I will!
>
> *goes, again*
>
Was it as good the 2nd time?
Brinner
What about the animated TOS series?
>>Hee hee. Con Petropoulous is in a Star Trek movie. Brilliant casting.
>
>Con?
From The Castle.
>C&J
>>>>Now we have finished watching Season Three of the Original Series of
>>>>Star Trek. It's all very sad.
>>>
>>>Why sad?
>>
>>Because we've finished. There's no more.
>>
>>Except Next Generation!
>
>What about the animated TOS series?
*speaks more loudly*
We've FINISHED. There's NO MORE.
>>>Hee hee. Con Petropoulous is in a Star Trek movie. Brilliant casting.
>>
>>Con?
>
>From The Castle.
Oh, was that his name in that? He was great. "And the whole place was
just full of culture."
Heh, I still remember him as Poidah from "The Comedy Company". Or was
it "Fast Forward"?
"Welcome to the show, Peter."
"Nah nah nah, it's Poidah. P...oidah."
>> Now we have finished watching Season Three of the Original Series of
>> Star Trek. It's all very sad. Although the pilot episode was added as
>> an extra, it was funny to see Captain Pike and his First Officer Majel
>> Barret and a bizarre shouting, laughing Spock as ... I don't know,
>> some sort of science officer.
>>
>I haven't seen that in many a year, I must look into bit torrenting
>it.
I must look into finding out exactly what the hell a bit torrent is
one of these days.
>> >10/10 for being Star Trek, 9/10 for being a well rounded film, 11/10
>> >for things exploding.
>>
>> >Go see it!
>>
>> I will!
>>
>> *goes, again*
>
>Was it as good the 2nd time?
Actually, have to admit we didn't go yet. But I want to.
Sadly, movies are just too expensive and time too short to see many
things more than once on the big screen these days. Have to save up
for "Transformers 2".
C&J
Transformers 2? Thats one summer blockbuster I will be going nowhere
near.
The new Terminator is out this week though, I am looking forward to a
Christian Bale angstfest.
Brinner
So I take it all that's left is Next Generation? No ST: TOS?
>>>>Hee hee. Con Petropoulous is in a Star Trek movie. Brilliant casting.
>>>
>>>Con?
>>
>>From The Castle.
>
>Oh, was that his name in that? He was great. "And the whole place was
>just full of culture."
*falls over*
>Heh, I still remember him as Poidah from "The Comedy Company". Or was
>it "Fast Forward"?
>"Welcome to the show, Peter."
>"Nah nah nah, it's Poidah. P...oidah."
Full Frontal.
> >>>>>Now we have finished watching Season Three of the Original Series of
> >>>>>Star Trek. It's all very sad.
>
> >>>>Why sad?
>
> >>>Because we've finished. There's no more.
>
> >>>Except Next Generation!
>
> >>What about the animated TOS series?
>
> >*speaks more loudly*
>
> >We've FINISHED. There's NO MORE.
>
> So I take it all that's left is Next Generation? No ST: TOS?
Look up at the beginning of this conversation. It's okay, you can do
it. Your head won't fall off.
> >Heh, I still remember him as Poidah from "The Comedy Company". Or was
> >it "Fast Forward"?
> >"Welcome to the show, Peter."
> >"Nah nah nah, it's Poidah. P...oidah."
>
> Full Frontal.
Ahh, Fast Forward's even lamer reincarnation.
C@w
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*looks*
It's far away!
>> >Heh, I still remember him as Poidah from "The Comedy Company". Or was
>> >it "Fast Forward"?
>> >"Welcome to the show, Peter."
>> >"Nah nah nah, it's Poidah. P...oidah."
>>
>> Full Frontal.
>
>Ahh, Fast Forward's even lamer reincarnation.
Seemed pretty funny when I watched it.
>C@w
>>> >Heh, I still remember him as Poidah from "The Comedy Company". Or was
>>> >it "Fast Forward"?
>>> >"Welcome to the show, Peter."
>>> >"Nah nah nah, it's Poidah. P...oidah."
>>>
>>> Full Frontal.
>>
>>Ahh, Fast Forward's even lamer reincarnation.
>
>Seemed pretty funny when I watched it.
It had its moments. Eric Bana among them.
Con the Fruiterer (which was the dude I thought you were talking about
before you told me it was a Bana character), for example, was not
among them.
>> Sadly, movies are just too expensive and time too short to see many
>> things more than once on the big screen these days. Have to save up
>> for "Transformers 2".
>
>Transformers 2? Thats one summer blockbuster I will be going nowhere
>near.
>
>The new Terminator is out this week though, I am looking forward to a
>Christian Bale angstfest.
Care to change your tune, with the benefit of hindsight?
Hee hee! "Name's Poita!"
>Con the Fruiterer (which was the dude I thought you were talking about
>before you told me it was a Bana character), for example, was not
>among them.
Haven't seen that one. Will report back when I see it. How lame is it?
>C&J
I am going to change my tune so much that its no longer even a tune.
Its one long wail.
I have heard some reviews of Transformers 2, wild horses couldn't drag
me to it.
Brinner
>>Con the Fruiterer (which was the dude I thought you were talking about
>>before you told me it was a Bana character), for example, was not
>>among them.
>
>Haven't seen that one. Will report back when I see it. How lame is it?
Quite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkt2dkTMGsg
>I have heard some reviews of Transformers 2, wild horses couldn't drag
>me to it.
We've heard mingled good things and bad things, and the good things
tend to come from trustworthy, though nerdy, sources.
Robots fight. Plot makes no sense. BSTs aplenty. Kabooms. Shooty bang!
Megan Fox semi-clothed.
All in all, a perfect movie.
Megan Fox leaning over the motorcycle = HOT!
sk
Exactly.
>>>I have heard some reviews of Transformers 2, wild horses couldn't drag
>>>me to it.
>>
>>We've heard mingled good things and bad things, and the good things
>>tend to come from trustworthy, though nerdy, sources.
>
>Robots fight. Plot makes no sense. BSTs aplenty. Kabooms. Shooty bang!
>Megan Fox semi-clothed.
>
>All in all, a perfect movie.
Heh, we saw it the other day. There was a mass of nonsensical plot in
there, wasn't there? One wonders when, and why, Decepticons became
able to flawlessly imitate slightly over-sexed college students.
The Jesus was great as ever, and the BSTs and boomyzangs were fun. Was
it just my imagination, or were the chick's lips bigger and puffier in
this movie? I generally don't worry so much about that, but this time
I'm with Janica on this whole issue. They got too much screen time.
She just looked goofy. I thought she was meant to be a sort of
semi-useful addition to the plot who could do stuff. She mainly just
sat around.
Meh. It wasn't up to the first film, but it was a fun sequel.
It wasn't up to the first film, where a giant robot urinates on that guy
that looks like Jeff Goldblum but isn't?
-Aaron
Funny. My girlfriend made the same comment about the lips. I was too busy
looking at other body parts.
sk
They're like The Dark One; they have to observe from a stupidly
planned distance before they can ascertain the sureness of their
accuracy of intellectual foresight.
>The Jesus was great as ever, and the BSTs and boomyzangs were fun. Was
>it just my imagination, or were the chick's lips bigger and puffier in
>this movie? I generally don't worry so much about that, but this time
>I'm with Janica on this whole issue. They got too much screen time.
>She just looked goofy. I thought she was meant to be a sort of
>semi-useful addition to the plot who could do stuff. She mainly just
>sat around.
Except when she was running, usually from a shootybang.
>Meh. It wasn't up to the first film, but it was a fun sequel.
Absolutely! Walked out with a friend, and he said "I think they jumped
the shark when they started climbing pyramids."
Jumping the shark in a movie like Transformers is as ridiculous as
asking for a movie about giant fighting robots to be a mediation on
electronic sentience.
>It wasn't up to the first film, where a giant robot urinates on that guy
>that looks like Jeff Goldblum but isn't?
Exactly.
>> The Jesus was great as ever, and the BSTs and boomyzangs were fun. Was
>> it just my imagination, or were the chick's lips bigger and puffier in
>> this movie?
>
>Funny. My girlfriend made the same comment about the lips. I was too busy
>looking at other body parts.
Janica's sensitised me to that shit.
But seriously, there was nothing really wrong with her lips in the
first movie, that I recall. This time, it looked like she'd inherited
some sort of nasty X-Men mutation, where she turned into that giant
liver-fluke guy from the X-Files.
Hmm. X-Men, X-Files. Hmm.
>>>>>I have heard some reviews of Transformers 2, wild horses couldn't drag
>>>>>me to it.
>>>>
>>>>We've heard mingled good things and bad things, and the good things
>>>>tend to come from trustworthy, though nerdy, sources.
>>>
>>>Robots fight. Plot makes no sense. BSTs aplenty. Kabooms. Shooty bang!
>>>Megan Fox semi-clothed.
>>>
>>>All in all, a perfect movie.
>>
>>Heh, we saw it the other day. There was a mass of nonsensical plot in
>>there, wasn't there? One wonders when, and why, Decepticons became
>>able to flawlessly imitate slightly over-sexed college students.
>
>They're like The Dark One; they have to observe from a stupidly
>planned distance before they can ascertain the sureness of their
>accuracy of intellectual foresight.
That thing you just said made no fucking sense whatsoever. And the
tragedy is that soon, you're going to be arguing that it did.
>>The Jesus was great as ever, and the BSTs and boomyzangs were fun. Was
>>it just my imagination, or were the chick's lips bigger and puffier in
>>this movie? I generally don't worry so much about that, but this time
>>I'm with Janica on this whole issue. They got too much screen time.
>>She just looked goofy. I thought she was meant to be a sort of
>>semi-useful addition to the plot who could do stuff. She mainly just
>>sat around.
>
>Except when she was running, usually from a shootybang.
Running, sitting around. That was about it.
>>Meh. It wasn't up to the first film, but it was a fun sequel.
>
>Absolutely! Walked out with a friend, and he said "I think they jumped
>the shark when they started climbing pyramids."
And blowing them up with rail guns? What the fuck? They have them now?
I thought they only got them from the USS Daedalus in Stargate
Atlantis.
>Jumping the shark in a movie like Transformers is as ridiculous as
>asking for a movie about giant fighting robots to be a mediation on
>electronic sentience.
Yeah. Really makes you think.
More's the pity...
-Aaron
To clarify - The Dark One's intentions don't make any sense. He's
supposed to be the Counterpoint to The Light, but he lets an Aes Sedai
and a Warder interrupt his plans? Why didn't he send minions to The
Two Rivers a bit earlier? It's as though his plan is all about fucking
with Randlanders, rather than about y'know - making sure Rand al'Jesus
gets lanced through the stomach.
>>>The Jesus was great as ever, and the BSTs and boomyzangs were fun. Was
>>>it just my imagination, or were the chick's lips bigger and puffier in
>>>this movie? I generally don't worry so much about that, but this time
>>>I'm with Janica on this whole issue. They got too much screen time.
>>>She just looked goofy. I thought she was meant to be a sort of
>>>semi-useful addition to the plot who could do stuff. She mainly just
>>>sat around.
>>
>>Except when she was running, usually from a shootybang.
>
>Running, sitting around. That was about it.
What more could you ask of her?
>>>Meh. It wasn't up to the first film, but it was a fun sequel.
>>
>>Absolutely! Walked out with a friend, and he said "I think they jumped
>>the shark when they started climbing pyramids."
>
>And blowing them up with rail guns? What the fuck? They have them now?
>I thought they only got them from the USS Daedalus in Stargate
>Atlantis.
Just one of many unanswered questions, alongside: "A teenage
Australian Decepticon who's hornier than a Kiwi walking through a
sheep-paddock? What the hell?"
>>Jumping the shark in a movie like Transformers is as ridiculous as
>>asking for a movie about giant fighting robots to be a mediation on
>>electronic sentience.
>
>Yeah. Really makes you think.
I hate it when shooty-bang movies do that.
>>> It wasn't up to the first film, where a giant robot urinates on that guy
>>> that looks like Jeff Goldblum but isn't?
>>
>> Exactly.
>
>More's the pity...
You're not wrong, sir. You're not wrong.
What was with those two unutterably stupid ghetto-talking brobots? Was
that really necessary? It made me feel soiled.
>>>>Heh, we saw it the other day. There was a mass of nonsensical plot in
>>>>there, wasn't there? One wonders when, and why, Decepticons became
>>>>able to flawlessly imitate slightly over-sexed college students.
>>>
>>>They're like The Dark One; they have to observe from a stupidly
>>>planned distance before they can ascertain the sureness of their
>>>accuracy of intellectual foresight.
>>
>>That thing you just said made no fucking sense whatsoever. And the
>>tragedy is that soon, you're going to be arguing that it did.
>
>To clarify - The Dark One's intentions don't make any sense. He's
>supposed to be the Counterpoint to The Light, but he lets an Aes Sedai
>and a Warder interrupt his plans? Why didn't he send minions to The
>Two Rivers a bit earlier?
You know? He was locked away in The Dark One's Prison?
>It's as though his plan is all about fucking
>with Randlanders, rather than about y'know - making sure Rand al'Jesus
>gets lanced through the stomach.
The Dark One at least I can understand. He's done what He could with
the tools He was given, and at the start His grip on the world was
pretty weak.
Still don't understand why He resurrected Ishamael so many times,
though. That's just weird.
>>>Jumping the shark in a movie like Transformers is as ridiculous as
>>>asking for a movie about giant fighting robots to be a mediation on
>>>electronic sentience.
>>
>>Yeah. Really makes you think.
>
>I hate it when shooty-bang movies do that.
Stop saying "shooty-bang" now, Buzzword.
LOL
Was this in the first one, which I saw whilst buzzed flying from here to
Denver, while playing Oblivion, or in the second one, which I did not see?
=D
-Aaron
Second. It was goofy as hell.
>-Aaron
But he had enough energy to organise having a Fade and a ridiculous
amount of Trollocks to the Two Rivers. Just as Moraine and Lan showed
up. Of course.
>>It's as though his plan is all about fucking
>>with Randlanders, rather than about y'know - making sure Rand al'Jesus
>>gets lanced through the stomach.
>
>The Dark One at least I can understand. He's done what He could with
>the tools He was given, and at the start His grip on the world was
>pretty weak.
As was his sense of timing.
>Still don't understand why He resurrected Ishamael so many times,
>though. That's just weird.
He Moves In Mysterious Ways.
>>>>Jumping the shark in a movie like Transformers is as ridiculous as
>>>>asking for a movie about giant fighting robots to be a mediation on
>>>>electronic sentience.
>>>
>>>Yeah. Really makes you think.
>>
>>I hate it when shooty-bang movies do that.
>
>Stop saying "shooty-bang" now, Buzzword.
Hee hee! I love the term, shooty-bang. It's awesome!
>Was this in the first one, which I saw whilst buzzed flying from here to
>Denver, while playing Oblivion, or in the second one, which I did not see?
Definitely the second one. They were embarrassing.
>>>>That thing you just said made no fucking sense whatsoever. And the
>>>>tragedy is that soon, you're going to be arguing that it did.
>>>
>>>To clarify - The Dark One's intentions don't make any sense. He's
>>>supposed to be the Counterpoint to The Light, but he lets an Aes Sedai
>>>and a Warder interrupt his plans? Why didn't he send minions to The
>>>Two Rivers a bit earlier?
>>
>>You know? He was locked away in The Dark One's Prison?
>
>But he had enough energy to organise having a Fade and a ridiculous
>amount of Trollocks to the Two Rivers. Just as Moraine and Lan showed
>up. Of course.
Yeah, but I thought the general idea was that this was all instigated
by Ishamael. Not the Dark One Himself.
And before you try to tell me we were talking about Ishamael and not
the Dark One, no. We were talking about the Dark One.
See, that's not the impression ever conveyed to me in my readings of
the books. After all, The Dark One is supposedly to be something akin
to Malazan's Crippled God but more powerful due to, well, the fact
that he's the Anti-Light. Whatever he might be, the fact that he'd be
weak enough to act without instigating anything seems hard to swallow.
I can believe Ishamael acting somewhat of his own accord due to being
(if memory serves) not nearly as witless as the rest of the Foresaken,
but even then, it's hard to believe the Dark One wasn't acting upon
Ishamael in some way.
Or it could just be sloppy planning by Jordan. After all, he gave the
world Taimandretards.
>And before you try to tell me we were talking about Ishamael and not
>the Dark One, no. We were talking about the Dark One.
I know we're talking about The Dark One.
It was basically a mash up of 80's plot references from the cartoon. And the
Decepticon's being able to imitate a Human was a nod to the Beast wars and
their ability to mimic Anmals.
> And blowing them up with rail guns? What the fuck? They have them now?
> I thought they only got them from the USS Daedalus in Stargate
> Atlantis.
Rumours have being going around since the 90's that the US Navy had
developed Rail guns. They were supposedly trying to make them man portable,
but the tech only worked on large scale weapons. So they supposedly mounted
them on a few battleships.That's just one of those rumours though. Urban
Myth, Whatever.
>>>>>>That thing you just said made no fucking sense whatsoever. And the
>>>>>>tragedy is that soon, you're going to be arguing that it did.
>>>>>
>>>>>To clarify - The Dark One's intentions don't make any sense. He's
>>>>>supposed to be the Counterpoint to The Light, but he lets an Aes Sedai
>>>>>and a Warder interrupt his plans? Why didn't he send minions to The
>>>>>Two Rivers a bit earlier?
>>>>
>>>>You know? He was locked away in The Dark One's Prison?
>>>
>>>But he had enough energy to organise having a Fade and a ridiculous
>>>amount of Trollocks to the Two Rivers. Just as Moraine and Lan showed
>>>up. Of course.
>>
>>Yeah, but I thought the general idea was that this was all instigated
>>by Ishamael. Not the Dark One Himself.
>
>See, that's not the impression ever conveyed to me in my readings of
>the books. After all, The Dark One is supposedly to be something akin
>to Malazan's Crippled God but more powerful due to, well, the fact
>that he's the Anti-Light. Whatever he might be, the fact that he'd be
>weak enough to act without instigating anything seems hard to swallow.
Okay, but you're re-reading the books. The Ba'alzamon character who is
doing everything, that is Ishamael posing as the Dark One.
It may or may not have been *meant* to be the Dark One, back when
Jordan thought this was going to be one, and then three books in
length. But it was ultimately Ishamael, who was partially trapped and
therefore partially able to do stuff. Even if that stuff was mostly,
you know, a giant fuck up.
The Dark One was (and still is) almost entirely trapped, and unable to
do anything at all. Later on, He talks to the Forsaken but that's
about it. Then comes the freezing of the seasons, the bubbles of evil,
and Shadar Haran.
>I can believe Ishamael acting somewhat of his own accord due to being
>(if memory serves) not nearly as witless as the rest of the Foresaken,
I think he's worse than most of them, on account of being insane.
>but even then, it's hard to believe the Dark One wasn't acting upon
>Ishamael in some way.
Given that Ishamael was still partly trapped, and the place he and the
other Forsaken were trapped was the Bore, and the Bore was a hole dug
into the Dark One's prison, and the Dark One is the reason Ishamael
was insane in the first place, I'd say you're right on the rather
obvious money there.
>Or it could just be sloppy planning by Jordan. After all, he gave the
>world Taimandretards.
Bless him.
>>And before you try to tell me we were talking about Ishamael and not
>>the Dark One, no. We were talking about the Dark One.
>
>I know we're talking about The Dark One.
*narrow, suspicious look*
Holy Jesus fuck, it's Satters.
>> >>Heh, we saw it the other day. There was a mass of nonsensical plot in
>> >>there, wasn't there? One wonders when, and why, Decepticons became
>> >>able to flawlessly imitate slightly over-sexed college students.
>
>It was basically a mash up of 80's plot references from the cartoon.
Aw, they were so sadly wasted on me. Although I do sort of remember a
Transformer that disguised itself as an ice cream truck or something.
>And the
>Decepticon's being able to imitate a Human was a nod to the Beast wars and
>their ability to mimic Anmals.
Is that what the Pointless Cyclops Cat(TM) was all about?
>> And blowing them up with rail guns? What the fuck? They have them now?
>> I thought they only got them from the USS Daedalus in Stargate
>> Atlantis.
>
>Rumours have being going around since the 90's that the US Navy had
>developed Rail guns. They were supposedly trying to make them man portable,
>but the tech only worked on large scale weapons. So they supposedly mounted
>them on a few battleships.That's just one of those rumours though. Urban
>Myth, Whatever.
Let's face it. If America had rail gus, they would have blown up a
British helicopter or a school with them by now.
>
> >> >>Heh, we saw it the other day. There was a mass of nonsensical plot in
> >> >>there, wasn't there? One wonders when, and why, Decepticons became
> >> >>able to flawlessly imitate slightly over-sexed college students.
> >
> >It was basically a mash up of 80's plot references from the cartoon.
>
> Aw, they were so sadly wasted on me. Although I do sort of remember a
> Transformer that disguised itself as an ice cream truck or something.
More ther Decepticon who switched sides, Although I think ti was the
Dinobots in the cartoon, Optimus prime Getting killled and later being
resurrected by the Matrix of Leadership. and the awesomeness of the
constructicons.
> >And the
> >Decepticon's being able to imitate a Human was a nod to the Beast wars
and
> >their ability to mimic Anmals.
>
> Is that what the Pointless Cyclops Cat(TM) was all about?
No that was the 80's cartoon again, back then Soundwave was a Cassette
playing Ghetto blaster who had to spies shaped as Tapes who transformed into
a Cat and a Bat. Personally I think the satelite Soundwave was way cooler.
>
> >> And blowing them up with rail guns? What the fuck? They have them now?
> >> I thought they only got them from the USS Daedalus in Stargate
> >> Atlantis.
> >
> >Rumours have being going around since the 90's that the US Navy had
> >developed Rail guns. They were supposedly trying to make them man
portable,
> >but the tech only worked on large scale weapons. So they supposedly
mounted
> >them on a few battleships.That's just one of those rumours though. Urban
> >Myth, Whatever.
>
> Let's face it. If America had rail gus, they would have blown up a
> British helicopter or a school with them by now.
Probably did. I think if you look real close at the 9/11 footage you can see
a rail gun shot hitting the first tower and they just CGI'd a Plane in to
that footage while they quickly scrambled another Passenger aircraft and
flew that into the second one.
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Is there any understanding of when The Dark One actually begins to
actively act upon the world to the same extent as Ishamael?
>It may or may not have been *meant* to be the Dark One, back when
>Jordan thought this was going to be one, and then three books in
>length. But it was ultimately Ishamael, who was partially trapped and
>therefore partially able to do stuff. Even if that stuff was mostly,
>you know, a giant fuck up.
See, that's what it seems like at this point (half-way through The
Great Hunt) that - at least as presented in the book - that it's The
Dark One acting somehow. I get the impression that maybe Jordan later
switched his mind and decided to have it be Ishamael that was causing
all this ruckus, and not The Dark One. At least, it seems that way.
Or at the very least, Ishamael was so mad he may have actually taken
to thinking he was The Dark One or The Dark One Personified, somehow,
just like all the religious loons out there who think they're the
prophet expected by the Jews or Christ Reborn or somesuch shit. To
make an easy analogy, you understand.
>The Dark One was (and still is) almost entirely trapped, and unable to
>do anything at all. Later on, He talks to the Forsaken but that's
>about it. Then comes the freezing of the seasons, the bubbles of evil,
>and Shadar Haran.
That I remember. Though I gotta ask: the wind that pushes Rand when
he's training with Lan up in Fal Dara in the beginning of The Great
Hunt - is that some sort of predecessor to the bubbles of evil? I
can't remember if that ever gets an explanation by Jordan.
>>I can believe Ishamael acting somewhat of his own accord due to being
>>(if memory serves) not nearly as witless as the rest of the Foresaken,
>
>I think he's worse than most of them, on account of being insane.
He's insane? Shows how much I remember about the books. But then, he
doesn't really - again, at the half-way point of TGH - come across as
anything other than an annoying spectre that haunts Rand's dreams.
>>but even then, it's hard to believe the Dark One wasn't acting upon
>>Ishamael in some way.
>
>Given that Ishamael was still partly trapped, and the place he and the
>other Forsaken were trapped was the Bore, and the Bore was a hole dug
>into the Dark One's prison, and the Dark One is the reason Ishamael
>was insane in the first place, I'd say you're right on the rather
>obvious money there.
Sweet.
>>>And before you try to tell me we were talking about Ishamael and not
>>>the Dark One, no. We were talking about the Dark One.
>>
>>I know we're talking about The Dark One.
>
>*narrow, suspicious look*
We were talking about The Dark One. Look, the last post was about two
weeks ago (sorry - work and life, y'know?) and I'm still on-topic. Eat
me, fat boy.
This one's easy; as Lord of the Grave, if he doesn't resurrect him, he has
to listen to him rave and babble up close. If he resurrects him, Ishy goes
out and wanders up and down the earth and to and fro in it and monologues
to the folks THERE.
Dave
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But the Dark Lord can project thoughts directly into their skull (they
must have great cricket reception!), so what's to say the Dark Lord
can't hear all their annoying monologues?
>Dave
But only at or right near Shayol Ghul, notice. So logically the DL can only
_hear_ them from the real world there too. (Otherwise they'd never be able
to plot and plan and scheme against each other and sometimes him, right, cuz
the DL would interrupt in their T'a'R rooms or in whoever's palace they'd
gather in and say "STOP THAT, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT YOUR ORDERS, GET GOING"?)
>so what's to say the Dark Lord can't hear all their annoying monologues?
Well, that's my point; if he's dead, he's in there WITH the DL. If he's
alive, the DL can send him away-away and not have to listen, and get on
with watching his soaps.
(One more day, by the way...)
>Ilya the Recusant <q...@deadspam.net> wrote:
>>Chucky & Janica <janica...@kolumbus.finland> wrote:
>>>Still don't understand why He resurrected Ishamael so many times,
>>>though. That's just weird.
>>
>>He Moves In Mysterious Ways.
>
>This one's easy; as Lord of the Grave, if he doesn't resurrect him, he has
>to listen to him rave and babble up close. If he resurrects him, Ishy goes
>out and wanders up and down the earth and to and fro in it and monologues
>to the folks THERE.
Hm, you make a good point. There must be more annoying nutbags around
that He wouldn't want to talk to, though. He should be resurrecting
everyone.
Then again, not many people die in Chaggabaggawoggaland, do they?
C&J
And now we have just hit on the reason why people get reborn in
Randland. The DO gets sick of hearing them whining.
~*~
vecki
>> Hm, you make a good point. There must be more annoying nutbags around
>> that He wouldn't want to talk to, though. He should be resurrecting
>> everyone.
>>
>> Then again, not many people die in Chaggabaggawoggaland, do they?
>
>And now we have just hit on the reason why people get reborn in
>Randland. The DO gets sick of hearing them whining.
Heh, He'd have won a long time ago if He just had more staying power.
After a while, they'd all be dead and He could do whatever He liked to
the Pattern.
Instead, He gets the shits with them and lets them get reborn, which
ruins everything.
We see more of His impatience when it comes to the Forsaken. They
fail, and He kills them. Then He brings them back. Then He tortures
them for some reason. Classic AD/HD.
C&J