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 More options Jan 5 2010, 7:43 am
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rawilson
From: Dan Clore <cl...@columbia-center.org>
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:43:19 -0800
Local: Tues, Jan 5 2010 7:43 am
Subject: Re: Peter Dale Scott

RMJon23 wrote:
> On Jan 4, 5:57 pm, Dan Clore <cl...@columbia-center.org> wrote:
>> Royal Academy of Reality 1132 wrote:

>>> The Process took legal action to get the chapter about them taken
>>> out of _The Family_, or so I've heard.
>> That is correct. I have a copy of the first edition including the
>> censored material, along with an insert explaining that it will be
>> taken out of all future printings due to the legal action.

>> Speaking of Manson again, I also have the album of demo tapes that
>> he recorded. Giving allowance for it being someone's first
>> recordings in demo form, not bad stuff. You have to wonder how
>> history turned out in the universe next door, where Manson got a
>> recording contract and became a megastar.

> The Beach Boys recorded one of Charlie's songs, "Cease To Exist,"
> changing the title to "Never Leran Not To Love."

> Reading Michael Walker's book _Laurel Canyon: The Inside Story of
> Rock and Roll's Legendary Neighborhood_ there's a chapter about the
> effect the Tate murders had on the hippie/rock and/or roll vibe in
> Laurel Canyon. A lot of people, after they finally busted Manson,
> went, "Wow! I passed a joint to him at Mama Cass's house one night,"
> or other things like that. And before the bust: megaparanoia, because
> there were a lot of record execs and their drug dealers who thought
> they were next on the list. So many people had passed on Charlie's
> demos, or had had dealings w/him re: drugs.

> Charlie learned guitar from Alvin "Creepy" Karpis, in stir. Karpis
> was part of Ma Barker's gang.

> (I know Clore is all over this stuff; I reiterate it for those
> relatively healthy individuals who never became minor Manson
> scholars.)

> The house where the Tate murders occured was formerly owned by Doris
> Day's son, Terry Melcher, who passed on Charlie's musical demos.
> Melcher produced, among other bands, the Byrds.

> I like the Doris Day----> Manson connexion.

> Clore: I have not read the Manson File put out by Amok, but I did
> read a book by John Gilmore that was on Amok that was about Manson,
> complete with police file photos, incredibly gruesome. Gilmore seems
> to me some sub-species of Gonzo True Crime writer, quite a bit
> different from Sanders' poetic ironic/sensibilities, which always
> lurk beneath.

The Manson File can't be beat for those interested in Charlie. Gilmore's
book is good, too.

> Another one I've yet to get to along these lines _The Shadow Over
> Santa Susana: Black Magic, Mind Control, and the Manson Mythos_, by
> Adam Gorightly. Same guy who wrote _Prankster and Conspiracy_, about
> Kerry Thornley.

Don't think I've heard of these--

--
Dan Clore

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