Why the change from AFP to NP in the Fort ID?? Re: De-Lurking for a quick look back
lookin
that's any easy question. After Dodgeboy & the Archangel died,
they attempted to fill in.for them. NP must have came back to the
Fort from Sworpsville and changed the FORT IDs from AFP to NP.
By the way, both Dodgeboy & Archangel were the master posters
that made the Fort. KH at one time was their little bro. And NP, heck
he was over in Sworpsville (alt.oyp.sworp) which fizzled out as a pic
group and became what it is today: a movie group.
lookin
":Yoboy:" <ilove...@yippee.com> wrote in message news:40510ba7$1@sl-news....
> Yo Fortsters,
> I was first here when I stumbled across a post of a young lad with a
> cherry touching his lips. I think if memory serves me right it was early
> in 1998. The first post I can come across that I posted was in September
> of '98 concerning a young man that is no longer around (?) at least I
> have not seen nor heard of him in many years. He was Dodgeboy. He was
> very active in the group and the older members I am sure remember him.
> There was a time when he was giving out ID's and I am not exactly sure
> why (someone here could probably enlighten me). In any event he gave me
> the ID # AFPe6. In all this time I do not think I have seen anyone with
> "AFP" instead of "NP". So I just want to say that it is a pleasure to
> have a place to come to where no one questions your sexual predilictions
> (sp). It is nice to also see the members feeling a little more free to
> open up to others in the group. I know (or assume) that many of you chat
> offline and most of us will never see, know or care about it. What I find
> refreshing is the comoderee(sp) (sorry I never was a speller!) within the
> members.
> I was thinking I missed the innoncence of the fort when it was young but
> upon deeper reflection I find that the way the group has gelled makes it
> at least if not a better place to be every day.
> Thanks to KH and Ninja and others that have "kept the fort alive" and of
> corse thanks to ALL the posters as without them it would be a loney place
> to be, but most of all THANKS to Tommy, a kid I have never met but am
> proud to know thru the postings and writings he has done as well as the
> postings and writings others have done for him.
> I am sorry I have never said it B4 but once again THANKS TOMMY for
> starting the fort. A place that people from around the world can come and
> be at peace with friends.
> Regards,
> YOBOY AFPe6
>
> PS:
> Would someone be so kind as to check out my headers and see if my rear-
> end is showing ;)
lookin
Subject: PING FORT I.D.'S
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Date: 1998/08/30
OK FOLKS..GET EN WHILE THEY'RE HOT! GET YOUR NEW FORT I.D.#
NOW YOU MIGHT ASK...WHAT GOOD IS A FORT I.D.? WELL, BESIDES THE FACT
THAT IT TELLS YOU YOU BELONG TO A GREAT GROUP, IT ALSO TENDS TO ANNOY
A CERTAIN GROUP OF MOOSE. NOW WE LIKE TO ANNOY MOOSE, DON'T WE?
THEN JUST E-MAIL ME AT
AND YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY TO ANNOYING THOSE ACURSED MOOSE!
Dodgeboy AFP ic*
lookin
Subject: SUBJECT : FORT ID'S
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Date: 1998/04/05
some persons cannot get to alt.binaries.pictures.asparagus , sorry ,
e-mail me and i will send u a fort id for ur very own , no tax included
, no down payment required , no financeing , no leinholders , the only
requirement is if u don't have a fort id , u can get it here , everyone
who enters the fort gets an id , doesn't matter who u are , poster ,
lurker , or just someone who passes by on a train and gets off here ,
sorry about the billboards , but we have a height requirement , yes we
shoot for the stars but u can't see them with billboards and if ur do
need billboards then we can send u to a place where there is alot of
them (aspb or abpb) , send me an e-mail and get ur fort id , be
patient alot of members out there , kool thanks for being here , u all
made the fort real kool and alot of fun ,
lookin
From: The Archangel AFP-ic@ (NP-b73) (TheArc...@IAmWatchingYou.com)
Subject: Re: "Compensation" (story)
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Date: 1999/06/13
I'm not the only person that sees the desamation in the story -- did I
subvert them? I do preach tolerance -- but when a child is being hurt AND
degraded, there is no tolerance. I don't agree with bondage -- but I do
tolerate it, because it is what those involved want. I really doubt that
the child in the story would be that willing to become in real life what he
did in the story. If so, I pity the boy.
I'm not trying to subvert any minds like you say "I do"... but express my
opinion like I have the moral right to be able to. If YOU are the writer, I
pity your existance, if not, I pity his existance.
Please note the use of the word IF -- it implies more than one alternative
and is NOT accusatory.
Any further communication is henceforth irrelevent. All you are able to do
is "point a finger" -- I expressed an opinion that just happened to be in
agreement with other peoples views. IF it is not your view -- that is your
problem to deal with. BUT I do have a right to have my own opinion.
The Archangel NP-b73
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Subject: Re: HOWDY U ALL !
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Date: 1998/10/14
"NO PUBES" <ca...@allseeme.fort?> shared a few bytes of ascii:
><html><img src="http://www.movieboys.com/images/mb101.jpg"></html>
Nah, I ca...@seeuatall.fort. Hehe...
Now it's omeganews???......
Kinda hard to keep up, NP... ;o))
KH AFP ic+
[aka NP-b54]
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Subject: Re: this should have been done long ago!
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Date: 1998/09/30
thankkyou , this is one of the dr.pervs , but he is also was friends
with the other 2 , still is with one , i'm sure , what a bunch of
fucking crap , persons i really belive in , set me up , helped wreck my
name , and he said , if u know it or not i am still ur friend , u , bill
, r , on my tolit paper list , or should i put u on my baby wipe list ,
and to let u know bill , xpretender , the pic u sent of CHRISTOPHER , i
knew all along , it was from the sting series , u thought u pulled a
good one , ur te fool , i always seen right thriugh u , y do u think , i
gave u certain information , u pretend , to protect kids and i told u
who was trying and did have cyber sex in chat rooms with me , and other
kids , for sure now i know why u said , let persons be themselves , and
u didn't
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
i wrote more but erased , defender u r stripped of ur name , it does not
belong to u , even ur real name , bill , stripped too , gone , ur gone ,
u have been expelled , ur hstory ,
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Stonewall/9211/BOYPICS.html
tried to get it up fast , sorry i will do a bit better when i get back
on friday night ,Message 2 in thread
From: BLUESKY (blu...@dot.com)
Subject: Re: this should have been done long ago!
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Date: 1998/10/01
YOU ARE FULL OF PEDOSHIT HOW A 10 YEARS OLD KID KNOW ABOUT
STING SERIES PICS UNLESS YOU WERE 9 YEARS OLD TO START TO COLLECT OR READ
THEM
--
No child , boy or girl was sexually harmed by not having sexual contact
WITH AN ADULT
BLUESKY
Spokesperson for
The Activists against Child Pornography (A.A.C.P)
District of Montreal
ZERO kp tolerance
Who love the children for what they are, children,
can not help, support them and at the same time be against them
Life is short, why to take a deadly risk from it ?
NPNPNPNPNPNPNPNP NPNPNPNPNPNPNPNP wrote in message
<19154-36...@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
thankkyou , this is one of the dr.pervs , but he is also was friends
with the other 2 , still is with one , i'm sure , what a bunch of
fucking crap , persons i really belive in , set me up , helped wreck my
name , and he said , if u know it or not i am still ur friend , u , bill
, r , on my tolit paper list , or should i put u on my baby wipe list ,
and to let u know bill , xpretender , the pic u sent of CHRISTOPHER , i
knew all along , it was from the sting series , u thought u pulled a
good one , ur te fool , i always seen right thriugh u , y do u think , i
gave u certain information , u pretend , to protect kids and i told u
who was trying and did have cyber sex in chat rooms with me , and other
kids , for sure now i know why u said , let persons be themselves , and
u didn't
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
i wrote more but erased , defender u r stripped of ur name , it does not
belong to u , even ur real name , bill , stripped too , gone , ur gone ,
u have been expelled , ur hstory ,
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Stonewall/9211/BOYPICS.html
tried to get it up fast , sorry i will do a bit better when i get back
on friday night ,
lookin
Subject: Re: THE RANTINGS OF A PSYCHOTIC MADMAN
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Date: 1999/01/18
KidHacker NP-b54 went right to the point:
>
> ced...@tdsnet.com (Cedric) expounded:
>
> >Well, Bill Defender has been ranting and raving and spitting venom for
> >over a week now. [snip]
>
> Very well stated Cedric. And dead right. In his twisted mind we are ALL evil,
> and all liars. He attacks me, and you, and DB, and Tommy, and anybody
> else who would DARE to disagree with him, or even just agree with us,
> trying to make us look as if we're some kinda monsters. We're not, and
> thankfully everybody knows it, except him. His endless spewing of hatred
> and personal threats is simply making it clearer to many just how easily an
> innocent, naive boy like Rocky could've given up and died under such
> ruthless attacks, because he saw no other way out. I'm NOT saying that's
> why it happened, noone will ever know one way or the other. It's just that as
> he goes further and further over the edge, such despair and desparation in
> the mind of a trapped boy becomes way too easy to envision.
>
> It's strange to note that I never did anything to Bill at all, other than love
> him, and then try to back away when he changed. No, in spite of what he'll
> say, I didn't change, he did. Too many people know me too well, and all
> know that I'm really no different now than I was 6 months ago, when even
> Bill himself was so proud that I got my Eagle. In one brief lapse, he even
> admitted to me that there was another, evil personality in him, and that it
> was taking over. All I've ever wanted since then, and all I've asked, is that
> he just leave me alone. I can see now that he won't, just like the rest, not
> until he's locked up and silenced for good. Instead, he seems totally
> obcessed with doing ANYTHING he can to destroy my life. I can't and won't
> let that happen. I have too much of a future at stake, and too much positive
> support.
>
> I DO wish there was some way to bring back the other Bill, the one who
> loved and cared, but that can't happen. He's gone for sure, and the only
> hope that he could ever return would be through a LOT of psychiatric help.
> Maybe some day he'll get that help, but it looks like it'll only be in a
> psychiatric prison ward...
>
> KH NP-b54
Well said lilbro, i agree 100%. And I also wish the old Bill would
return. He was a loving and caring man. Not the monster that has taken
over. Little does he know bout my life, he can't do anything to hurt me
anymore, cus i WILL see him in jail with his new roomie BUBBA.
I've been outed in scouts, school,nowhere left to out me. So..DO YOUR
BEST SHOT>>>BUBBA'S WAITING.
Don't know bout you lilbro, but his threats and evil don't scare me
anymore.
db
lookin
Subject: Re: A FINAL WORD ON THE SUBJECT
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Date: 1998/06/10
trav...@spyring.com wrote:
>This being the case, why did you intrude on this group and help to destroy
>it. It was started by children who wanted to have a fun place.
False. AFP was co-opted by *adult* pedophiles who wanted to escape
the FAQ posting limitations and in-fighting of abpb. That some of
those pedophiles also like to masquerade as children remains merely a
bizarre aside. Nevertheless, it speaks volumes that...
1) You and others here actually believe 'Nopubes' (sebupon) is a 10
year old boy and...
2) You and others here look to this *alleged* 10 year old boy for
leadership.
Really now folks, a little make-believe is fine but your tearful
laments regarding this *alleged* kid's departure are pathetic! I must
say, those looking for more examples of pedophile dysfuntionality need
only read your silly laments.
>People here
>were having fun.
>But your post here shows that you still miss the point. IT WAS A GROUP FOR
>CHILDREN.
Bullshit. This was NEVER a group for children. Sure one or two
children and a few adolescents may have stumbled in on occasion but,
in point of fact, AFP was simply an abandoned newsgroup that was
co-opted by a handful of adult pedophiles who like to collect pictures
of boys. And make no mistake, those pictures are the prime draw in
afp for most of you.
>I would like to start a group for you, your friends and your enemies so that
>we can debate on the moral issues until we all die of hate, and we can let
>groups that cause no harm such as this one, continue in a pleasant way.
"Continue on a pleasant way" indeed. Based on this "fort's" history,
what you are arguing for, in effect, is unfettered child porn
trafficking and, believe me, few in the real world would see any
nobility in that.
lookin
Subject: RE: ping tttooommmyyy
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Date: 2001-04-27 15:41:23 PST
Nice to learn the history. I have alredy wished kidhacker a
happy one over on asparagus, but i must do it again here:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY kidhacker!!!
(mine is sunday, and i already got my present: fort id!!!!!)
Thanks tommy for best bday gift ever!
>===== Original Message From Ch...@Dales.com =====
>hi ALDEELEY
> in the begining of the FORT id's THE VERY FIST ONE I GAVE OUT sorry
>caps. it was NP-A , it was to honor a very special person ,
> it was more of like a medal of honor ?
> after he wore his and proudly shown it aroun , others liked the idea
>, so some asked for one to be part of something speciail , i was
>getting so many requests it was too hard to keep up , i made mistakes
>and gave out the same id 2 or 3 times butt many r understanding and
>helped fix it ,
> i thought hmm i shoulld have an id too ! , then said nah , it is for
>my friends !
> then one day a creeepy crawler came in and wondered around , he used
>to stick stuff in others food , put tacks on others seat , stuck goo
>on door knobs , sheesh this guy came and played and played and had
>alot of fun , and still does ,
> he gave me the name NP and keeps calling me it , so i always guessed
>it was the perferct FORT id , his name is KIDHACKER ,
> i hope this helps
> HAPPY BIRTHDAY KIDHACKER-GATOR
>
>
>On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:44:52 -0400, alan deeley NP-F20
><alde...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi brother forter!! I have a quesion. How is it that of all
>>people, you do not have/display a fort id??
>>Can i request an id for someone now (YOU!)? Just wondering about
>>the seeming discrepancy. This person here loves you!!! Thank you
>>for being tommy.
>>
>> ALAN
>>
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NP's age was just plain stupid and so were those who believed it.
I thought *anyone* that's had experience with 10 year old boys
would know the truth. And anyone that thinks and writes like
NP is not only an adult but an aging one fast!
So, the believing poor dudes about NP's age have *never* had
any 10 year old boy experiences either. Too bad for them.
Anyways, I now just think this is funny
Like, why not?
so be it. (darn, where did that infamous nic go?)
lookin
lookin
( and that post wasn't written for you).
I believe that it is madeup fun.
(at least it used to be)
but I really don't care anymore
dudes can believe anything they want
and it wasn't your nic I was referring to.
it was *so be it*.
(must have been way before your time)
and sometime,
I'm still going to get U bigtime,
ya sorry ass fuck.
(this post was written for you).
lookin
"::Y-Not::" <$+-Y-...@here.com> wrote in message news:120320040224450175%$+-Y...@here.com...
> In article <unc4c.10375708$Id.17...@news.easynews.com>, lookin
> In what famous?
>
> I bin bissy. :-)
>
> I'm not sure about the point of this post. Do you believe the ages of
> KH and NP are as they say? Or not? Well, not that it matters much, they
> will still be who they are. And doing a good job of it, too.
>
> I've had a lot of educational and professional experience with
> exceptional (gifted) children, and not just because I was one myself.
> But I do know how it is to be judged as an impossible person. A child
> who speaks like an intelligent adult, causes fear and denial in many
> insecure adults, and hateful resentment in other children. They can
> only try to fit into adult society with what accepting mature adults
> they can find, but they still lack the emotional maturity and social
> insights that growing up will afford them. It's tough. Many don't make
> it. I've helped some survive, but not enough.
>
> Not believing in a gifted child's age, is inconsequential, compared to
> how they've been treated throughout history. They were often accused to
> be possessed by evil spirits, and locked up and/or tortured to death.
> Horrifyingly, this is still going on in some places. Those that lived,
> did so by hiding their true nature, being coached in that by a caring
> adult who noticed the child's qualities before others could see.
> Would Leonardo Da Vinci have survived childhood if his uncle (a BL)
> hadn't guided and protected him? Even so, it was a close call. Many
> times.
> Do we need to push all these troubles onto the children who visit here?
>
> KidHacker, Tommy, Dodge, Justamut, J-Nox, Spencer, Chopped Hair, and
> others I may forget to mention, are who they say they are. Even if some
> of us may disagree on their ages, they are very nice people, and very
> much fun to be with. This is a whole lot more than enough for me. And,
> I think, for most of us. After all, that's why we are here.
>
>
> Y Not
>
>
> "Love is free.
> Hate costs you everything."
lookin
==============
It is obvious that you don't have any.
we used to have a professional writer in here,
like something what you are doing.
only this dude knew how to write.
it was Cedric.
I just read in the Google archives about Cedric.
Cedric committed suicide.
lookin
lookin
==================
After getting his hair and nails done in Sworpsville,
Cedric would chase after me in the BL newsgroups.
I even tried posting to him where I'd be so he could get
there. Cedric helped lots when I was helping Pester chase
*fem* and her (he) fish pics out of Asparagus.
Cedric knew how to make to laugh. I liked Cedric's posts
so much that I used to save them, so that I could read them
again and laugh some more.
Cedric was lots of fun.
I really miss him.
lookin