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NP-f31

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Oct 9, 2009, 10:56:29 PM10/9/09
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I just came back from a High School football game. My youngest son is
in Middle School now and I took him to the game so he could hang out
with his mates. So, I was on my own for much of the game. :/
I only took marginal interest in the game, to me the real show was in
and around the stands. I've thought about this before when my older
son was in High School and I would go to see him play. High School
football games are really sexually charged. It's true, all those
pheromones get the kids stirred up; and watching as a boylover, I can
see how the chemistry affects the atmosphere. There are all types of
people at the game from grandparents and parents, to teachers and
students and of course the little brothers and sisters. It's a great
place to people watch and boy watch.

The adults pretty much watch the game or talk to friends and the
little baby siblings and toddler siblings play with toys in the
bleachers. The administrators march back and forth policing the kids.
But the kids I saw tonight are all really good kids. In some schools
in this city there are killings at HS football games. Nothing like
that here, these kids almost all come from privileged homes.

Of course, the kids are completely tuned in to one another. They only
watch the game when there is a big play. The students dominate the
middle section of the bleachers, The upperclassmen stand in segregated
groups. Popular guys stand in a group near the popular girls and there
is much interaction, but it is unfocused. Teen couples tend to stay on
the periphery and are intimately focused on one another, there is a
lot of snuggling and hugging; and in the darker areas around the
concession stand or in corners there is a little kissing going on. The
close proximity of the groups tends to act as an aphrodisiac and a
mass sexual energy is created that they all feed on. You can see it in
their dilated pupils. They actually get a sexual high. I never saw
this when I was in high school, I was on the field, but it was
palpable tonight.

Older middle school boys, like my son, are trying to act like the
upperclassmen, they stand in groups near the older teens and they are
tuned in and watching how the older teens interact. They vacillate
between the urge to fit in with the cool older kids and being more
playful and active like the younger boys. I saw my son trying to talk
up an upper school girl. She was pretty and blonde, just what he
likes, and she thought he was cute and sweet, but in a little brother
sort of way. I think that was okay with him. He already has a
girlfriend that goes to a different school. It was a lot of fun to
watch from a discreet distance as he and his friends seesawed from
Middle School cool to hyper preteen, dancing to the rhythm of the
drumline or breaking into a snatch of song as a group. He has some
great friends and it was informative to watch them in their element.

The prepubescent and pubescent boys were the most interesting to
watch, the 5th and 6th graders. The pheromones in the air affected
them most of all. They were crazed and active, running around chasing
one another. The sexual energy was turned on one another as opposed to
the opposite sex and they didn't know how to deal with it. Most of
them had a glaze of sweat on their faces, their hair was disheveled
from running and wrestling. When I caught their eye from time to time
I saw a disconnected joy on their faces, like they were buzzing. More
than once a boy would catch my boy smile, stop, stare at me in wonder
for a moment and then smile back and say, 'Hey' before he ran off. It
was if they had to clear their heads to focus directly. They were
stoned on pheromones and they didn't know it. It was hilarious to see,
especially knowing that they're out of control and don't know why.
They panted and yelled to one another in their high pitched, excited
voices. The real action was in the line to the concession stand.
That's where they all jumble together, jostling one another, me and
other patrons in line. I was with my kid and some of his buds. They
were all crowded around me and they were talking about other kids.
"Hey, there's JT. JT!" "Sara is really nice, but her sister is stuck
up." My son's friends talked me up too, much to the embarrassment of
my son. When I bought them all a snack I got to be cool to him too. By
that time the pheromones were getting to me too and I really began to
consider what was going on around me. The boys my son's age are super
attractive and relatively safe, so they got a lot of hugs from older
girls. The older girls stayed away from the older boys unless they
were very close friends (in which case there was a lot of hugging). So
my kid got some hugs. He's good at that because he has an older sister
and he's always hugging her friends. It was then that I realized that
this is how these young people had safe sexual encounters.

Which brought me back to the 5th and 6th graders. Not having an outlet
they were taking out sexual aggression on each other. Wrestling,
jostling, touching, there was a lot of physical contact. It was
non-sexual, but there was a lot of it. And then I noticed how
frequently this age group adjusted themselves. It was a totally
unconscious action, but I saw it over and over. I guess you have to
know what to look for to see it. This time of year, before it gets too
cold, is perfect for some of the most interesting boywatching of all.
Support your local team!

My son took a long time to calm down when we got home. In fact, he
said he 'needed' to wrassle (what he calls beating the crap out of
each other). It worked and he crashed hard in front of the TV where he
is now sound asleep. I would be interested to know if anyone else has
noticed this phenomenon.

Doc
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Oct 10, 2009, 12:06:27 AM10/10/09
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Hi Doc
It is very good to see that you passed one very nice time,
i could imagine it, the stands full of cute boys enjoying
the game and the company of their friends, all of them
very excited, and that is great, it is possible that some
of them were really full of sexual energy, but most of them
probably were only happy to be playing with their friends.
But that is always great to see, i personaly don`t do that
kind of stuff, going to places were are many kids, but i
understand that many people like to do that kind of stuff
because they feel very well in this kind of situations,
it should be one great feeling to see really free people
like are young boys playing in the stands.
The part of 11yo frequently adjusting themselves is very natural,
if you see with atention you will see that when they are younger
it happens even more frequently, and when they are older it also
happens many times, it is nature in his best form, some people
control it, others not, and if they are young they have more
dificultys doing it.

Take care and best regards

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Hi Doc
It is very good to see that you passed one very nice time,
i could imagine it, the stands full of cute boys enjoying
the game and the company of their friends, all of them
very excited, and that is great, it is possible that some
of them were really full of sexual energy, but most probably
were only happy to be playing with their friends. But that is
always great to see, i personaly don`t do that kind of stuff,
going to places were are many kids, but i understand that many
people like to do that kind of stuff because they feel very well
in this kind of situations, it should be one great feeling
to see really free people like are young boys playing in the
stands.
The part of 11yo frequently adjusting themselves is very natural,
if you see with atention you will see that when they are younger
it happens even more frequently, and when they are older it also
happens many times, it is nature in his best form, some people
control it, others not, and if they are young they have more
dificultys doing it.

Take care and best regards

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Hi Doc
It is very good to see that you passed one very nice time,
i could imagine it, the stands full of cute boys enjoying
the game and the company of their friends, all of them
very excited, and that is great, it is possible that some
of them were really full of sexual energy, but most of them
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insane for boys!

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Glad you had such a good time looking at the boys! Thanks for sharing.

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What a great account of your evening at the game, Doc! Yeah, I
remember attending high school football games when I was in 5th
through 7th grades as my brother always got free tickets for being
part of the team. He always gave me enough to have at least a few of
my friends along. Your story brought back some memories for me - seems
that at least somethings haven't really changed - at least in as much
as how kids of different cliques interact. It's strange, in a way that
after 30 some odd years since I was that age, middle schoolers still
try to hang a bit close to the older "cool" kids and so forth. And
yeah, I remember the sexual energy that seemed to build up after a
night at a game. (Of course, in my case, it always led to the real
thing! lol...)

I really should go to a high school game again one of these days.


Chad (NP-b24)

Uri

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I well knew that the bitch of the fort wouldn't take long to show. It
only took him a couple of hours to appear, few people is so...
attentive. Aww well, would ever die this hydra of 100 faces? As soon as
you have chopped one of his heads there is another one rising up from
his body. Spectacular. He has more names than the same devil, but not
enough however to support the huge list of lies he threw up along the
years. The only comfort is to know that he is probably more sick than
any other person here, shook by the hate that he himself inspired.
Trapped by his past! Well, well, how sad and dramatic! And now the blush
response.

> His?
>
> Please define "common pedos".

What's a pedo? I'm a pedo. You are not. But such a question deserves a
book and not an answer. Worst yet if that answer is addressed to a louse
like you.


> I'm asking, because I can't accurately define it myself.
> I think you assume all "pedos" are just like you. We aren't. Some are
> American. LOL

What the hell should I reply to such a nonsense? Do you think I assume?
Don't think boy! Let thoughts for those who can bring them out.


> I see that "pedos" come in all shapes and sizes, work in all kinds of
> occupations, and are just as stupid and just as intelligent as
> everyone else. In other words, we are people who have different
> sexuality than the majority, and have no other distinguishing
> differences.

What a stupid son of a bitch you are. I personally detest you and your
cheap brainless demagogy. Well, spit what you want, asshole, but there
is the terrible truth of living in a situation where your love and
expression are tragically restricted. Then you know love, and as much as
you know it, as much as you suffer. That's what I call to live like an
animal. Would you tell then than an animal is equal to a man, with no
distinguishing differences? I know the difference, and so do other
people not impregnated by the group fable. You probably don't know about
it because you are just a farsant, a vulgar pretender. Expecting to see
anyhing deep coming out from your mouth is like expecting to see a
donkey talking about the economic crisis. Something similar happens with
your friend, the family Doc. You can't teach what you can't understand.


> Doc IS a family man, and has a wife and children. Why do you think
> this is bad? He doesn't have sex with children,

I bet that's the way you like pedos.

so his sexuality
> doesn't have anything to do with how he lives, works, and raises his
> children, successfully. We in the fort know this because he's been
> exposed here. We know his real name, where he works, and where he

I will consider a visit to break his face. Are you in? I can break yours
too with no extra charge.

> lives. There have been other BLs (pedos who don't hurt children) who
> have posted here, who have been fathers. Good ones, I think. Why would
> you deny them this, our human justification for existing, the most
> important contribution we can make to the continuance and advancement
> of our species? And the most personally rewarding? Jealousy?

Of course I'm jealous. But who was talking about jealousy? Sure not me,
and if you judged that jealousy has something to do with my cause is
just because you are a very low budget person. The most of the people is
jealous of someone, and more people than one are jealous of me. But tell
me, why did you talk about fathership in such a way? "Human
justification, the most important and personally rewarding
contribution"? I'll reply my question. You did it because: 1, you are
already a father (what fits with the farsant theory), and 2, because
yes, you tried to offend me. How cool! But didn't you learn that I can't
take offenses from somebody like you? What kind of person would I be?
Instead of that, can you imagine how many people here will be offended?
Because what you said is quite serious, and you just threw it like if it
were nothing. You can't tell me anything bad about myself that I hadn't
thought myself earlier. The heart forged on a low flame. But there are
people here much older than me who didn't have the chance to raise a
boy, and you just told them that they let escape the most important
reason to live. Do you see like you are a waste?


> By definition, parents are paternal. Should we be surprised he brings
> it here? LOL He could be worse, like depressed petulant you.

Not everybody can be petulant. You never could. And about depression is
probably a state of mind very attached to the common pedo. But in the
other hand you should consider the powerful laces between depression and
happiness, as if they were made from the same substance better or worst
calibrated. Look at me, I stand here as allways, and I can be more
depressed than you, and love more than you, and hate more than you, and
sing, dance, fuck and cook with more passion than you'll ever have.
Because you are a moron. That's what depression have, it distinguish
valuable people from morons like you.


> Doc posted what could be called a "slice of average suburban
> middle-class life" in America, quite accurately. His interpretations

And that's probably because your teens look so bad. I would call it a
slice of average american social shit. But don't take it seriously, the
most of my criticism is also applicable to the old and right-winded
Europe.


> of his observations were interesting, and on-topic for this newsgroup.
> I see no justification for you to bring Y Not into this, or for you to
> behave in this uncalled for derogatory manner.

You look very sensitive to the references of your alter-ego. I thought
he was dead! But hey, so many people are dying here in the groups,
"boylovers" are probably the social entity with the most elevated
mortality rate of the hole internet (if we don't count the y-not's
online list of clients)


> Has life hurt you so
> much, you need to see others hurt as well, to keep you company in your
> misery?

Implicating questions? Isn't that a well known formula from the multi-
headed reptile? Oh yes, but too stupid anyway. Company? Of course I want
company. "Friend, good", like old Frankie used to say. Nevertheless with
the pass of time I learned to renounce 'day by day friends' as a hurtful
but necessary part of my living, understanding that, like happens with
other pure feelings, a conditioned friendship is not a true friendship.
Did you have, like me, that urging necessity anytime of your life? Or
could you hide like your friends behind the cozy shadow of a weeding
ring? I'm not like you, my dear reptile, and I detest to lie to my loved
people.


> I feel sorry for you, but that won't stop me from making fun

You feel sorry but you want to make fun of me? Thanks for putting a line
around your own hypocrisy, that's the magic about the binomial sorrow-
fun. Did you know the difference between a liar and hypocrite? The liar
only lies to people, the hypocrite lies also to himself. You are
pathetic, serioulsy.


> of you in the future, if you do this again.

Is that a menace? From you? Again? Come on, old cunt, it's pity and not
fear what I feel about you. Please consider anyway, before you next and
funny step, that it's not exactly the same being a joker than being a
human living joke like you. Goodbye and emotionally yours!


> Maybe Mover again. Or not. LOL

this one goes with TM


* I think our dear Doc, tutor of everybody, replied to me through the
post of another person. Why would he need such a pretext? Shuddered
perhaps by the smell of a "familiar" corpse? I like the argues when they
bring out the real stuff we have inside. Candles, lollipops, pyjamas and
puppies Doc, don't overlook your wife because so many boy! Remember the
"advancement of our species". And watch the blood presure, you are not a
boy anymore! Bytheway, I know people with more "sexual activity" on the
wink of their eyes than all your posh boys together.

* questioning myself, eating my magdalena, I came to consider that a
common pedo is not eventyually attracted to women or men. But like it's
not time to establish a line between true blood and mixed blood pedos, I
can suggest other questions. An advance, from my own harvest. The
society brought us the word paedophile, and lately focused over it a
well known ammount of negative connotations related to abuse. The bright
solution was to sieve the negative meanings with a new word: boylover.
Boylover is a sweet word, phonetically weak, quite unpleasant to my
ears, I must say. Who brought us such a term? I don't know. Who accepted
it? I don't know neither, weak people probably. Cause would a brave
person turn his back on his own reflection just for social demands?
What's a pedo just a pedo can say, and I guess, my dear people, that it
is something to think about. Now my thoughts go deeper with no reward,
and the night forest awaits my arrival... bye, bye lyric lovers


TomBa

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Uri <ail> wrote in news:4ad3699b$0$271$bb4e...@newscene.com:

> * questioning myself, eating my magdalena, I came to consider that a
> common pedo is not eventyually attracted to women or men. But like it's
> not time to establish a line between true blood and mixed blood pedos,
I
> can suggest other questions. An advance, from my own harvest. The
> society brought us the word paedophile, and lately focused over it a
> well known ammount of negative connotations related to abuse. The
bright
> solution was to sieve the negative meanings with a new word: boylover.
> Boylover is a sweet word, phonetically weak, quite unpleasant to my
> ears, I must say. Who brought us such a term? I don't know. Who
accepted
> it? I don't know neither, weak people probably. Cause would a brave
> person turn his back on his own reflection just for social demands?
> What's a pedo just a pedo can say, and I guess, my dear people, that it
> is something to think about. Now my thoughts go deeper with no reward,
> and the night forest awaits my arrival... bye, bye lyric lovers
>
>

Actually, it was the Greeks that brought the word "peadohilia" to us; it
was from antiquity meant to be known from it's roots: "pedo"-child,
"phile"-love. I.E. one who "loves" a "child." That love need not be
sexual in nature (although it could be expressed that way too).

What society has brought is the corruption of the word to describe
someone that (sexually) abuses a child. What made love become abuse?

"BoyLover" was adopted as an equally descriptive term (more so because it
includes gender) in reaction to the corruption that the term peadophile
has experienced. I don't see it as phonetically weak, and if it's
unpleasant to your ears you might want to do some ear cleaning.

I'm a BoyLover, and a peadophile, and not ashamed of it. If you or anyone
else thinks that I would cause harm to a child, then that's your problem.
I haven't, and I won't. Regardless of your labels. Sorry to dissapoint
you!

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On 11 Oct 2009 13:48:01 -0500, Uri <a...@d.com> wrote:

Hi Uri,

I'm having trouble understanding why you would find issue with my
post.

>Very idyllic story of posh boys and posh parents.

Yes, I would agree. It was idyllic in the sense that such an
experience as I enjoyed would be considered heavenly by anyone who
loves boys.

You appear to use the term 'posh' in a negative fashion, as if you'd
bring social class into the conversation. I have had the same exact
experience at a school that could easily be considered 'ghetto' here.
I daresay my experience might be a universal one. Have you ever
experienced such heightened sexuality at a High School futbol or rugby
(or any sport) match where you live?

>Idyllic and vulgar,
>pretty suitable for the american sensibility.

Can you explain to me what is vulgar about adolescents creating a mass
sexual tension during a social gathering? I assure you their behavior
was socially acceptable, but it was also truly fascinating.

>The life of a pedophile is
>not the life of a family man, would you consider it?.

It's not a question of considering. I have no choice about my
sexuality. Are you putting me down because I happen to be a father?
Does that make me a bad guy? I am what I am and I do the best I can
with the situation I am confronted with. It would be MUCH easier to be
straight, but I am grateful that the Creator made me a boylover. It
has given me a window into the world that few others enjoy.

>It explains however
>your paternal attitude to the little and crazy group of people you have
>here.

Well, there ARE boys here. And being a Dad comes naturally to me. I
don't take offense at being called paternal, even though you seem to
wield the word as an insult. I have no defence for the crazy comment,
because I suspect that many of us are crazy. At LEAST one of us is.
However, there are likely more folks here than you suspect. Though
neither of us can prove that point either way.

>Bad education for them, and quite annoying, I would say.

If you find my experiences annoying I am puzzled as to the reason, but
I consider that to be YOUR problem. As for the bad education point,
could you elaborate on why or how the description of my experiences at
a football game can be construed as a 'bad education'?

>Of course
>that your bitch y-not revere you and your attitude, cause somehow he
>allways thought, like you, that he was better than the common pedos.

I have no comment about him.

I hope you'll write back. I am interested in other people's
perceptions of themselves as boylovers or pedophiles. I would also
like to better understand what it is about my worldview that seems to
irritate you.

Stay Safe,

Doc
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> On 11 Oct 2009 13:48:01 -0500, Uri <a...@d.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Uri,
>
> I'm having trouble understanding why you would find issue with my
> post.
>
>>Very idyllic story of posh boys and posh parents.
>
> Yes, I would agree. It was idyllic in the sense that such an
> experience as I enjoyed would be considered heavenly by anyone who
> loves boys.
>
> You appear to use the term 'posh' in a negative fashion, as if you'd
> bring social class into the conversation. I have had the same exact
> experience at a school that could easily be considered 'ghetto' here.
> I daresay my experience might be a universal one. Have you ever
> experienced such heightened sexuality at a High School futbol or rugby
> (or any sport) match where you live?

POSH: Port Outward, Starboard Home. In reference to British aristoocrats
that could buy preferred seating on early commercial sailling vessels.

I'd bet that most of the boys and their parents described even know the
difference between port and starboard, or why such a seating pattern is
preferred.


>
>>Idyllic and vulgar,
>>pretty suitable for the american sensibility.
>
> Can you explain to me what is vulgar about adolescents creating a mass
> sexual tension during a social gathering? I assure you their behavior
> was socially acceptable, but it was also truly fascinating.

Hmm... maybe because he missed out on this as a kid, and is ashamed to
acknolwdge it happenning as an adult. Therefore, it must be 'vulgar'
behavior.


>
>>The life of a pedophile is
>>not the life of a family man, would you consider it?.
>
> It's not a question of considering. I have no choice about my
> sexuality. Are you putting me down because I happen to be a father?
> Does that make me a bad guy? I am what I am and I do the best I can
> with the situation I am confronted with. It would be MUCH easier to be
> straight, but I am grateful that the Creator made me a boylover. It
> has given me a window into the world that few others enjoy.

Is the life of a pedophile and the life of a family man mutually
exclusive? It's not an either/or situation.


>
>>It explains however
>>your paternal attitude to the little and crazy group of people you
>>have here.
>
> Well, there ARE boys here. And being a Dad comes naturally to me. I
> don't take offense at being called paternal, even though you seem to
> wield the word as an insult. I have no defence for the crazy comment,
> because I suspect that many of us are crazy. At LEAST one of us is.
> However, there are likely more folks here than you suspect. Though
> neither of us can prove that point either way.

But we're all a "little crazy!"


>
>>Bad education for them, and quite annoying, I would say.
>
> If you find my experiences annoying I am puzzled as to the reason, but
> I consider that to be YOUR problem. As for the bad education point,
> could you elaborate on why or how the description of my experiences at
> a football game can be construed as a 'bad education'?
>

n interesting POV. I thought going to school sporting events was
recreation, not education. What would make it 'good education' for them?
Maybe straight jackets and leashes??

It's sad that Uri is annoyed at kids having a good time. Maybe he just
likes to be annoyed?


>>Of course
>>that your bitch y-not revere you and your attitude, cause somehow he
>>allways thought, like you, that he was better than the common pedos.
>
> I have no comment about him.

Way to hold your tounge, Doc! :) Who says you can't teach an old dog
stuff!


>
> I hope you'll write back. I am interested in other people's
> perceptions of themselves as boylovers or pedophiles. I would also
> like to better understand what it is about my worldview that seems to
> irritate you.
>
> Stay Safe,
>
> Doc
> NP-f31
>

Take care,

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On 18 Oct 2009 05:04:01 -0500, Uri <mail> wrote:


>Dearissimo Doc, Tomba and whoever. How many words you americans use to
>eventually say nothing.

Hey Uri,

I see little difference in the way I present my arguments to you as
opposed to the way you present yours to me. With the notable exception
that I tend to be more direct.

>I'm afraid it must be another appendix of the
>sensibility I was talking about and that finally is transforming this forum
>into a words-hole. And what about your conversation request? Could you
>think that I own that 'favor' to you or your group, this refuge of
>compliant wankers? I don't think so, my time is limited and I have the
>intention of taking profit from it.

Well, I offered because I am genuinely interested in what you have to
say. The offer still stands when you have the time to spare.

>Excuse then my refusal as much as my shadowed tone. You talk about peace
>and I talk about war, our positions are irreconcilable. War is what real
>pedos own to the world: war, though it hurts.

You make an unclear distinction when you coin the phrase 'real pedos';
as if one brand were more legitimate than another brand. But my
interest is in understanding the nature of the war you owe to the
world. Can you spare a moment to enlighten me?

>The sweet sedative of places
>like this can't help at all, and it should finish, unless we assume, of
>course, that every paedophile is a well-off heterosexual like you.

You make assumptions about me that indicate that you don't know mw as
an individual or understand me as a person. I understand the
ignorance, because we are strangers to one another, but your
assumptions lead you to conclusions that are not based on my real
circumstance. You appear to imply a class distinction between you and
I that I neither recognize nor acknowledge. I love boys the same as
you. Does the fact that I'm married and a father make me illegitimate
as a boylover? If so, why?

>So I frequently ask myself where are the heroes? Where are the people who
>defied the world and took a victory from it? No one here, that's true, but
>they must be somewhere, cause idols is what we need. Do I have to become an
>idol to myself? Am I prepared? Real questions for my real world, which is
>not as bucolic as a 'night at the stadium'?

Your need for a hero is fascinating. I try to be self sufficient and
self reliant. However, your concept has merit and I would love to know
what qualities you'd seek in a paedophile hero. What would a pedohero
need to do to defy the world and snatch victory from it? I have an
idea of what you might say, but I will not prejudice my open mind.
Please share your vision. I, promise you, I am not baiting you, I
sincerely want to hear your point of view. Perhaps you can be an
inspiration.

Yours in boylove,

Doc
NP-f31

Uri

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NP-f31 wrote in news:d8msd5pui7jppe3c7...@4ax.com:

> On 18 Oct 2009 05:04:01 -0500, Uri <mail> wrote:
>
>
>>Dearissimo Doc, Tomba and whoever. How many words you americans use to
>>eventually say nothing.
>
> Hey Uri,
>
> I see little difference in the way I present my arguments to you as
> opposed to the way you present yours to me. With the notable exception
> that I tend to be more direct.
>
>>I'm afraid it must be another appendix of the
>>sensibility I was talking about and that finally is transforming this
>>forum into a words-hole. And what about your conversation request?
>>Could you think that I own that 'favor' to you or your group, this
>>refuge of compliant wankers? I don't think so, my time is limited and
>>I have the intention of taking profit from it.
>
> Well, I offered because I am genuinely interested in what you have to
> say. The offer still stands when you have the time to spare.

the offer?

My concept has merit? thank you fucking Doc, I feel better now with your
recognisement!
Aren't you baiting me? thank you fucking Doc, I can stop crying then!

Your words denote the 'notable' excess of self esteem you have, but please
in the future, if you have to talk to me, remember the plain fact that I
consider you quite stupid. Take that fact as the starting point of our
argues, so the big fat esteem you have for yourself don't disturb too much
the vision you have about me or about our talking-to. And don't focus on my
hostility, think about it as YOUR chance to change. You have been lucky to
have grown your ego in a place so compliant with your absurd reflections,
but take my word that an environment with a higher IQ would have torn you
to pieces long time ago.
And about me, well, I will remain in silence as long as I was able to
control the repulsion that characters like you or your friend y-not inspire
to me. It's spectacular anyway the big number of semireligious figures one
has to meet and bear throughout life. At what point of our dear
civilization did we reserve a place for all these frauds? They have the
mouth full of 'jesus he loves me', being that assumption an abstraction of
the true feeling: 'I love myself' -oftenly too much and oftenly with no
discernment-. And through love, self love, is that they feel in position to
believe that they are better than the rest, and therefore that they can
correct anyone. And if they say 'I'm genuinely interested in your
disagreement', they are meaning 'I'm professionally interested in
correcting yourself'. Well, you are quite idiot and my english can be
improved but you got the idea, didn't you?
Another sort points:
-You can't stand an offer if you have nothing to offer. My doubts are over
your limits.
-I have not the lesser interest in 'enlighting' yourself? Yes the
opposite, but not by you, obviously. And you question about the nature of
my war at the same time that claim to be 'mine in boylove'. Fuck you and
your boylove.
-I'm not like you, so don't ever presume again to be like me. To begin
with, I'm not an hypocrite bastard with leadership illusions. Besides, I
can talk about exposition. I'm exposed to a world often hostile, and I do
without a picture of my family in my pocket. Tell us, dear Doc, how many
times did you hide yourself behind your marriage? How many times did you
hide your interest in boys behind a picture of your own children? Now tell
me that you never approached to an anonymous boy and told him: 'I'm father
of 2 little boys just like you...' No, I'm not the fraud you are, I don't
have such a useful mask as the one you allways wear.
-'Pedohero' is disparaging, didn't you notice, stupid 'open-minded' piece
of shit? When Michael Jackson gave that famous interview he was near to be
a hero, he exposed his feelings just like they were, knowing the rejection
he would rise. Lamentably, not even his fortune could isolate him from such
an opposition. The pressure drove him to madness. He wanted to be a boy, to
transform himself into a boy, the only image of beauty he ever knew. To
hide his persona he bought a family like yours, my dear Doc. He bought your
legitimate mask and Mark Lester' sperm all in the same packet, isn't it
cool? And well, why all this peripheral deranged chatter? Oh yes, the hero.
A hero is an executant of his own and true feelings, even when those
feelings aren't shared by any other person in the world. The definition
could approach the terms heroism and madness more than we wish, except for
the own definition of 'truth' and 'true feelings'. Truth can be the same
for everybody, and that's the key and my end.

Save your answer, I don't need it, do you need it?


P.S. Isn't it fabulous the -notable again- number of deaths that devastate
the 'boylover world'? How many, how many? Our boys are dying, how tragic!
the devil couldn't wait another day to have those boys in his arms. Maybe
our sperm is carrier of some kind of terrible curse, who knows, the list of
tragic and early deaths is big enough to question ourselves. Duncan, Lloyd,
a guy named Kolya, Kidhacker, the old Y-not, John the latin kid, a guy
named MTB, Vladik... Jesuschrist, and the ingenuous boylovers believe,
without reasonable doubt, anything that is said to them. Some people fake
that they are children, some fake that they are moribund. It's a kind of
lie very recurrent here, the boylover groups love drama. My oppinion is
that neither boylovers nor lovedboys have a premature date with death, but
in any case with lie. Take it the way you like.

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