[1]Student Loans

[GaryN]

I received another missive from the Student Loan Company yesterday.
They appear to be labouring under the strange misconception that I have
some intention of repaying a loan taken out in 1993.

Apparently they will instruct bailiffs if I do not repay the loan in
full immediately. That'll be the 6th time in 20 years and the sum total
of my goods reposessed is none.

If the bailiffs are unable to recover the debt they will recover the
money from the person who guaranteed the loan. Good luck on that one
lads - she died of cancer 3.5 years ago.

By my reckoning they have now spent more money trying to recover the
loan than it was worth in the first place.

I've spent an enjoyable afternoon composing a letter pointing out that I
have at no point in these 20 years earned more than £15k pa and
therefore do not have to pay back the loan yet (This is not exactly true
but I've got a really good Long Involved Explanation lined up and HMRC
will agree with me because they don't see cash in hand). Followed up
with a mention that I'm ill and on benefits which have been suspended;
with a final rebuttal that since they are backed by RBS, which the
British tax payer had to bail out, I have theoretically paid at least
some part of the loan.

The last is of course complete bollocks but I couldn't resist the dig
and it might provide an amusing diversion for someone if they're stupid
enough to waste time trying to work it out.

I don't know why they don't just write it off, not as if it's a lot of
money anyway. Still, the increasingly infrequent demands do provide a
little light relief. I may just get the SO to write "RTS - Not Known
Here" on the envelope when the next one turns up in a couple of years.

gary

--
.Sig file abducted by aliens.
I was bored with changing it every week anyway but as a last gasp...

"And if California slides into the ocean,
like the mystics and statistics say it will,
I predict this motel will be standing,
until I pay my bill"

Warren Zevon, from "Desperados Under The Eaves"

[steveski7]

GaryN wrote:

> I received another missive from the Student Loan Company yesterday.
> They appear to be labouring under the strange misconception that I have
> some intention of repaying a loan taken out in 1993.

[snip]

> I don't know why they don't just write it off, not as if it's a lot of
> money anyway.

They will when you turn 50 - that's what happened to me. Along with a letter
from my GP saying that due to my disability I will never work again.

--
Steveski

[T0ny.Pa...@yahoo.co.uk]

Gary / Steve

Glad someone else is involved in the extended game of ATB (annoy the bureaucrats) - my current target is my local council. A couple of months ago I insisted on paying that month's council tax daily, in coins, and requesting a receipt for each transaction.

Tony

[GaryN]

T0ny.Pa...@yahoo.co.uk wrote in
news:cf037a6c-cbf3-4d5b...@googlegroups.com:

I eventually won the fight for my ESA to be restored/backdated by doing
exactly what they asked.

"We need to see more medical evidence"

So that is what they got, about 20 pages of test results from various blood
tests, liver biopsy, US scans, X-rays etc. All very impressive and shows
that I've spent lots of time in hospital, without at any point saying that
I'm unfit for work (they missed that detail). I also pointed out that
unless ATOS have incredibly sophisticated equipment a 40 minute 'Capability
for Work' assessment will not in any way shape or form prove or disprove my
condition.

They capitulated and backpaid the �600 odd they owed me.

gary

--
"The priest I didn't talk to at all, because I didn't want to have to hide
his body afterwards"

Takeshi Kovacs (Richard Morgan: "Woken Furies")

[Lesley Weston]

On 11-13-12 7:30 AM, GaryN wrote:
> T0ny.Pa...@yahoo.co.uk wrote in
> news:cf037a6c-cbf3-4d5b...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> Gary / Steve
>>
>> Glad someone else is involved in the extended game of ATB (annoy the
>> bureaucrats) - my current target is my local council. A couple of
>> months ago I insisted on paying that month's council tax daily, in
>> coins, and requesting a receipt for each transaction.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>
> I eventually won the fight for my ESA to be restored/backdated by doing
> exactly what they asked.
>
> "We need to see more medical evidence"
>
> So that is what they got, about 20 pages of test results from various blood
> tests, liver biopsy, US scans, X-rays etc. All very impressive and shows
> that I've spent lots of time in hospital, without at any point saying that
> I'm unfit for work (they missed that detail). I also pointed out that
> unless ATOS have incredibly sophisticated equipment a 40 minute 'Capability
> for Work' assessment will not in any way shape or form prove or disprove my
> condition.
>

> They capitulated and backpaid the Ł600 odd they owed me.

Yay! Don't spend it all in one place.

Lesley.

--
This address is real, but to reach me use leswes att shaw dott ca

[Larry Moore]

On 2012-11-13, Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Yay! Don't spend it all in one place.
>
> Lesley.
>

I would think that would be exactly when you spend it all
in one place :-)


--
"There are nine and sixty ways of constructing tribal lays,
"And every single one of them is right!"
"In the Neolithic Age," R Kipling

[GaryN]

Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:VqWdneWMKJT5Gz7N...@wightman.ca:

> On 2012-11-13, Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> Yay! Don't spend it all in one place.
>>
>> Lesley.
>>
>
> I would think that would be exactly when you spend it all
> in one place :-)
>
>

Paid off the rent that I hadn't quite been able to cover, stocked up on
canned food (common sense), bought the SO some more white gold with
emeralds and rubies jewellery (negotiables), bought seeds for food
plants.

I'm not a Survivalist per se but I have the sense to look towards the
fufure and I already have sufficient camping gear, weapons, and
ammunition.

Safely stashed somewhere other than where I live in case our beloved
security forces are monitoring.

I re-read Richard Morgan[1] "Market Forces" recently. Personally I
think he should get a "Nostradamus" Award (I made that up) because he's
not far off what we now have - "The dominoe recessions of the early 21st
Century"

gary

[1]Richard K. Morgan in USia for some reason. Possibly the same reason
that the novel "Black Man" was released in Leftpondia as "Variant 13"
Is that some kind of 'bend over for the human rights people'?

[steveski]

GaryN wrote:

[giganteroid snippage]

> [1]Richard K. Morgan in USia for some reason.

Bill Stewart (TV producer, host of 15 - 1, Right to Reply and all round good
chap) went to the States and came back as William G. Stewart . . .

--
Steveski

[GaryN]

steveski <stev...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
news:aginab...@mid.individual.net:

I think it's due to the political dynastys. The Kennedys, Bushs et al.
They have to have a middle initial so you can tell which is which. Who
gives a shit anyway?

But why should this apply to authors? And why should the title of the
book be changed? "Black Man" by Richard Morgan is changed to "Variant
13" by Richard K. Morgan in Leftpondia.

Why? There is a reason for the original title which you'll see if you
get a copy. It goes far deeper than skin colour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdpIyjKxQIg&feature=related

I accept that Iain Banks is the same person as Iain M. Banks but that's
to tell me what genre I'm looking at buying.

Why should authors suddenly have to have a middle initial?

gary

[raymond larsson]

In article <aginab...@mid.individual.net>, steveski
says...

> Bill Stewart (TV producer, host of 15 - 1, Right to Reply and all round good
> chap) went to the States and came back as William G. Stewart . . .

<http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all;q=Bill+Stewart>
as opposed to
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0829903/>
may explain that one.


--
rgl "there's a wild beaver walking through town, heading
your way."
Mike Keizer Fort Smith NWT

[Gary R. Schmidt]

On 15/11/2012 11:21 AM, GaryN wrote:
> steveski <stev...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
> news:aginab...@mid.individual.net:
>
>> GaryN wrote:
>>
>> [giganteroid snippage]
>>
>>> [1]Richard K. Morgan in USia for some reason.
>>
>> Bill Stewart (TV producer, host of 15 - 1, Right to Reply and all
>> round good chap) went to the States and came back as William G.
>> Stewart . . .
>>
>
> I think it's due to the political dynastys. The Kennedys, Bushs et al.
> They have to have a middle initial so you can tell which is which. Who
> gives a shit anyway?
>
> But why should this apply to authors? And why should the title of the
> book be changed? "Black Man" by Richard Morgan is changed to "Variant
> 13" by Richard K. Morgan in Leftpondia.
>
> Why? There is a reason for the original title which you'll see if you
> get a copy. It goes far deeper than skin colour.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdpIyjKxQIg&feature=related
>
> I accept that Iain Banks is the same person as Iain M. Banks but that's
> to tell me what genre I'm looking at buying.
>
> Why should authors suddenly have to have a middle initial?
>

A lass I know was once married to a septic navy pilot, when she went to
fill out some forms at the base, she was called in to see the arse-hat
in charge of the non-military residents, and told that she "had not
filled the forms in correctly."

"Why?"

"Because you have not filled in your middle name."

On being informed that she was not currently, and never had been, in
possession of a middle name, the arse-hat said, "Don't lie, everybody
has a middle name."

This went around and around several times, including production of the
Oz passport and US marriage certificate, in the end she gave in and made
up a middle name.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

--
When men talk to their friends, they insult each other.
They don't really mean it.
When women talk to their friends, they compliment each other.
They don't mean it either.

[Lesley Weston]

I sometimes buy things from American companies when the things are not
available in Canada, and have them delivered to a Poste Restante address
just across the border. Then we go to a nice little sushi place just
this side, cross the border and go for a walk on one of their beaches
that is still wild and much cleaner than those on our side, pick up our
parcel and drive home: a grand day out.

The PR place doesn't work if you don't have a middle name, since they
use it to identify you and make sure it really is you picking up the
parcel. I don't have one, so I made one up; the only problem is
remembering what it is.

[Alec Cawley]

Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <1b1fn9-...@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au>

> That's very odd. A lot of people do not have a middle name. Sure, most
> do, but that's just most.
>

And some people don't have family names either. The former Indonesian
dictator, Suharto, had no other names at all.

And Chinese names done have a middle name. The first word is the family
name, and the next two words are, jointly, the given name. Chairman Mao was
Tze-Dong of the family Mao. One of my colleagues got a polite ticking off
about this when someone from China joined his team and he used only half
of the man's name.

[Gary R. Schmidt]

On 16/11/2012 5:35 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <1b1fn9-...@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au>
> Gary R. Schmidt <grsc...@acm.org> wrote:

> That's very odd. A lot of people do not have a middle name. Sure, most
> do, but that's just most.
>

Well, all I know is the arse-hat in charge of the base where the Top Gun
fliers went back in the early 1990's was of the opinion that everybody did.

[Walter Bushell]

In article
<1100258355374703702.52...@news.individual.net>,

And famously is the Kliban cartoon, showing cats in Mao jackets saying
"Mao" and the next panel saying "Mousie dung.'.

--
This space unintentionally left blank.

[Geoff Field]

My wife also has no middle name. In Australia, it's not (usually) a
problem.

> I sometimes buy things from American companies when the things are not
> available in Canada, and have them delivered to a Poste Restante
> address just across the border. Then we go to a nice little sushi
> place just this side, cross the border and go for a walk on one of
> their beaches that is still wild and much cleaner than those on our
> side, pick up our parcel and drive home: a grand day out.
>
> The PR place doesn't work if you don't have a middle name, since they
> use it to identify you and make sure it really is you picking up the
> parcel. I don't have one, so I made one up; the only problem is
> remembering what it is.

I've heard of people using phony middle names as a way of tracking
where spam is coming from. It involves a bit of (self) organisation,
though.

Geoff

--
Geoff Field
Professional Geek,
Amateur Stage-Levelling Gauge

[Alec Cawley]

"Geoff Field" <geoff...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> My wife also has no middle name. In Australia, it's not (usually) a
> problem.
>

My sister, who emigrated to Australia, did the same with her children. She
also gave them, as legal names, forms that are normally considered
diminutives.

[RuneMaster]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:55:48 -0000, Gary R. Schmidt <grsc...@acm.org>
wrote:

<mass snippedy>

>>> A lass I know was once married to a septic navy pilot, when she went to
>>> fill out some forms at the base, she was called in to see the arse-hat
>>> in charge of the non-military residents, and told that she "had not
>>> filled the forms in correctly."
>>
>>> "Why?"
>>
>>> "Because you have not filled in your middle name."
>>
>>> On being informed that she was not currently, and never had been, in
>>> possession of a middle name, the arse-hat said, "Don't lie, everybody
>>> has a middle name."
>>
>>> This went around and around several times, including production of the
>>> Oz passport and US marriage certificate, in the end she gave in and
>>> made
>>> up a middle name.
>>
>> That's very odd. A lot of people do not have a middle name. Sure, most
>> do, but that's just most.
>>
> Well, all I know is the arse-hat in charge of the base where the Top Gun
> fliers went back in the early 1990's was of the opinion that everybody
> did.
>
> Cheers,
> Gary B-)
>

But I thought even the dim-witted military could cope with, for example,
"Fred (none) Flintstone" which leaves them with the problem of a name with
brackets :-)

--
Veistu hve rísta skal? Veistu hve ráða skal?
Veistu hve fáa skal? Veistu hve freista skal?
Veistu hve biðja skal? Veistu hve blóta skal?
Veistu hve senda skal? Veistu hve sóa skal?

Hávamál, Stanza 145

[GaryN]

Alec Cawley <al...@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in
news:1235507444374880086.11...@news.individual.net:

Wonder what the yanks would make of
http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/folk-song-
lyrics/James_James_Morrison_Morrison.htm

Probably got too many middle names:-)

[Geoff Field]

GaryN wrote:
> Alec Cawley <al...@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in
> news:1235507444374880086.11...@news.individual.net:
>
>> "Geoff Field" <geoff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife also has no middle name. In Australia, it's not (usually) a
>>> problem.

I should add that her sister also has no middle name.

>> My sister, who emigrated to Australia, did the same with her
>> children. She also gave them, as legal names, forms that are
>> normally considered diminutives.

I have an uncle (dead now, unfortunately) who was christened
"Jack" because of the propensity of Australians of that era to
call anybody called "John" by the nickname of "Jack".

Naturally, he was known by the family as "John".

> Wonder what the yanks would make of
> http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/folk-song-
> lyrics/James_James_Morrison_Morrison.htm
>
> Probably got too many middle names:-)

My youngest has two middle names.

My wife's grandfather also had two middle names, as well as a
double-barelled surname (which became my youngest's two first
names - or his first name and his first middle name).

On average, my nuclear family has one middle name each.
They're just not evenly distributed.

[GaryN]

Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
news:proto-4F140E....@news.panix.com:

I ran into another stupid piece of dumb beaureaucracy this afternoon.
Having just watched England lose to Australia in the rugby (bloody good
match so it was), a process which involved a few pints, I went to get a
bus home. The driver refused to sell me a ticket, not because I was
slightly inebriated, which I freely admit to, Oh no.

He wouldn't have me on the bus because I had an unlit cigarette in my
hand. Still wouldn't drive the bus after I put it in my pocket. I
refused to get off the bus and the driver called an inspector and the
police.

The bus company called for another bus to take the other passengers, I
got a bus from the other company which I was cheerfully allowed on to,
cigarette and all. The police cautioned the driver and inspector for
wasting police time.

Exactly how rampantly stupid is that? 1/2 hour delay and 20 pissed off
people over an unlit fag! Call me bloody minded - fair enough, but I'm
not going to put up with that sort of stupidity because where does it
stop? Can a bus driver decide not to let me on because I've got a
tobacco pouch in my pocket and might roll a smoke for when I get off?

[GaryN]

"Geoff Field" <geoff...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:SIXps.44412$Be.20156
@newsfe13.iad:

<snip>

> On average, my nuclear family has one middle name each.
> They're just not evenly distributed.
>
> Geoff
>
>

I've lost track of the various surnames that my mother and sister have used
over the years. My mother was 'Cook', then 'Nicholass' then 'Nicholass-
Brookes' then 'Brookes-Nicholass', then 'Brookes', not sure now - I just
address letters to 'Er Indoors@'. My sister has been 'Nicholass',
'Nicholass-Smith', Nicholass-Rolfe', 'Rolfe' and whatever she is now - I
don't write to her, mostly I only speak to her at funerals.

I may change my name by deed poll to "I can't remember orificer so who
cares". Just for a laugh.

[Nigel Stapley]

This is the point (1) where I repeat my story about the American guy
whose parents - out of who knows what sense of, well, *sense* - called
their son 'R.B.'. Just that; the R and the B didn't stand for anything
but themselves.

When he first applied for a driving licence, it was in the days of paper
documents, so the licencing authority got around it by writing 'R (only)
B (only)' in the requisite boxes.

They later computerised the system, and he ended up getting a new
licence card referring to him as 'Ronly Bonly'.

(1) It would have been sooner, but I've been stuck in bed for three days
as a result of the tender attentions of Captain Sinus and The Snot
Fairy. This was the weekend I was going to set up my shiny new PC, as well.

--
Regards

Nigel Stapley

www.thejudge.me.uk

<reply-to will bounce>

[Gary R. Schmidt]

Although the "dim-witted" is accurate, if insufficient, the concept of
"cope" is well beyond certain types.

[Lesley Weston]

On 11-18-12 3:36 AM, Nigel Stapley wrote:

<snip>

> This is the point (1) where I repeat my story about the American guy
> whose parents - out of who knows what sense of, well, *sense* - called
> their son 'R.B.'. Just that; the R and the B didn't stand for anything
> but themselves.
>
> When he first applied for a driving licence, it was in the days of paper
> documents, so the licencing authority got around it by writing 'R (only)
> B (only)' in the requisite boxes.
>
> They later computerised the system, and he ended up getting a new
> licence card referring to him as 'Ronly Bonly'.

There was a small fad a while ago for giving your child initials only,
I've no idea why. But I know why I don't have a middle name: when I
asked my mother she said "Everybody hates their name, so we decided to
give you only one name to hate". Faulty reasoning, I would say; at least
with two or more I would have had a choice.

>
> (1) It would have been sooner, but I've been stuck in bed for three days
> as a result of the tender attentions of Captain Sinus and The Snot
> Fairy.

Glingle, glingle...

Hope you're feeling better now.

[Nigel Stapley]

Lesley Weston wrote:

>
> There was a small fad a while ago for giving your child initials only,
> I've no idea why. But I know why I don't have a middle name: when I
> asked my mother she said "Everybody hates their name, so we decided to
> give you only one name to hate". Faulty reasoning, I would say; at least
> with two or more I would have had a choice.

I wish I'd been given a middle name. Barring it being absolutely
outrageous, I would have used it in preference, as I've always disliked
the one I have. My mother was never able to explain why she chose it.

>>
>> (1) It would have been sooner, but I've been stuck in bed for three days
>> as a result of the tender attentions of Captain Sinus and The Snot
>> Fairy.
>
> Glingle, glingle...

Sniffle, sniffle, would be more apt. Along with, I'm afraid, glug, glug.

>
> Hope you're feeling better now.
>

Getting there, thanks. This is the first time since Thursday afternoon
that I've been able to spend more than 40 minutes or so out of bed at a
time.

[Chris Zakes]

On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:04:19 -0600, an orbital mind-control laser
caused GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> to write:

>Alec Cawley <al...@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in
>news:1235507444374880086.11...@news.individual.net:
>
>> "Geoff Field" <geoff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife also has no middle name. In Australia, it's not (usually) a
>>> problem.
>>>
>> My sister, who emigrated to Australia, did the same with her children.
>> She also gave them, as legal names, forms that are normally considered
>> diminutives.
>>
>
>Wonder what the yanks would make of
>http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/folk-song-
>lyrics/James_James_Morrison_Morrison.htm
>
>Probably got too many middle names:-)
>
>gary

Well... from my perspective, a set like "Charles Philip Arthur George"
*does* seem a bit overdone. But when your mum's the Queen, I suppose
you can get away with it. On the other paw, I had a friend in college
whose middle name was "F".

-Chris Zakes
Texas
--

But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It
neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

-Thomas Jefferson

[Nigel Stapley]

Chris Zakes wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:04:19 -0600, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> to write:
>
>> Alec Cawley <al...@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:1235507444374880086.11...@news.individual.net:
>>
>>> "Geoff Field" <geoff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My wife also has no middle name. In Australia, it's not (usually) a
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>> My sister, who emigrated to Australia, did the same with her children.
>>> She also gave them, as legal names, forms that are normally considered
>>> diminutives.
>>>
>> Wonder what the yanks would make of
>> http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/folk-song-
>> lyrics/James_James_Morrison_Morrison.htm
>>
>> Probably got too many middle names:-)
>>
>> gary
>
> Well... from my perspective, a set like "Charles Philip Arthur George"
> *does* seem a bit overdone. But when your mum's the Queen, I suppose
> you can get away with it. On the other paw, I had a friend in college
> whose middle name was "F".
>

Sure that wasn't just his exam result?

[John S. Wilkins]

Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:04:19 -0600, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> to write:
>
> >Alec Cawley <al...@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in
> >news:1235507444374880086.11...@news.individual.net:
> >
> >> "Geoff Field" <geoff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My wife also has no middle name. In Australia, it's not (usually) a
> >>> problem.
> >>>
> >> My sister, who emigrated to Australia, did the same with her children.
> >> She also gave them, as legal names, forms that are normally considered
> >> diminutives.
> >>
> >
> >Wonder what the yanks would make of
> >http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/folk-song-
> >lyrics/James_James_Morrison_Morrison.htm
> >
> >Probably got too many middle names:-)
> >
> >gary
>
> Well... from my perspective, a set like "Charles Philip Arthur George"
> *does* seem a bit overdone. But when your mum's the Queen, I suppose
> you can get away with it. On the other paw, I had a friend in college
> whose middle name was "F".
>

I have had Indian friends whose names were initials for no longer form.

--
John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
Honorary Fellow, University of Melbourne
- http://evolvingthoughts.net

[Larry Moore]

On 2012-11-18, Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <k8apkq$1qlh$1...@mud.stack.nl>

> Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 11-18-12 3:36 AM, Nigel Stapley wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>
>>> This is the point (1) where I repeat my story about the American guy
>>> whose parents - out of who knows what sense of, well, *sense* - called
>>> their son 'R.B.'. Just that; the R and the B didn't stand for anything
>>> but themselves.
>>>
>>> When he first applied for a driving licence, it was in the days of paper
>>> documents, so the licencing authority got around it by writing 'R (only)
>>> B (only)' in the requisite boxes.
>>>
>>> They later computerised the system, and he ended up getting a new
>>> licence card referring to him as 'Ronly Bonly'.
>
>> There was a small fad a while ago for giving your child initials only,
>> I've no idea why. But I know why I don't have a middle name: when I
>> asked my mother she said "Everybody hates their name, so we decided to
>> give you only one name to hate". Faulty reasoning, I would say; at least
>> with two or more I would have had a choice.
>

> Everyone hates their name?
>
> When did this happen?
>
> I like my name, and I like the spelling because I get to make fun of the
> French.
>

I quite like mine - largely because it already end in 'y' and so
can't have it made into a phony diminutive, unlike my school-friend
Bruce.

--
"There are nine and sixty ways of constructing tribal lays,
"And every single one of them is right!"
"In the Neolithic Age," R Kipling

[Chris Zakes]

<chuckle> No, according to the story I was told, his dad had two very
good friends, one named Fritz, one named Frank. Rather than compliment
one and risk offending the other, he just used their initial.

[Robert Carnegie]

On Monday, 19 November 2012 12:19:35 UTC, Larry Moore wrote:
> I quite like my name - largely because it already end in 'y' and so

> can't have it made into a phony diminutive, unlike my school-friend
> Bruce.

According to an anecdote or two, Kenny Everett called Barry Cryer,
his writer, Ba.
Ah, but you said "phoney", adj., "like a phone".

Which in that case would be, Brr, Brr, I suppose. Brr, Brr.
Brr, Brr. Are you going to get that?? :->

[Lesley Weston]

But isn't "Larry" a (genuine) diminutive of "Laurence"?

[Alec Cawley]

Because it already is a diminutive, of Laurence/Lawrence.

Of course, we could diminutise it to Lal.

[steveski]

Alec Cawley wrote:

> Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

>>> Everyone hates their name?
>>>
>>> When did this happen?
>>>
>>> I like my name, and I like the spelling because I get to make fun of the
>>> French.
>>>
>>
>> I quite like mine - largely because it already end in 'y' and so
>> can't have it made into a phony diminutive, unlike my school-friend
>> Bruce.
>
> Because it already is a diminutive, of Laurence/Lawrence.
>
> Of course, we could diminutise it to Lal.

Or Laz(z).

--
Steveski

[Larry Moore]

On 2012-11-19, Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> But isn't "Larry" a (genuine) diminutive of "Laurence"?
>
> Lesley.
>

Or Lawrence, even.

So I'm told but my birth certificate is definitely 'Larry'.

[Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy]

Alec Cawley <al...@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in

news:1616625242375051110.51...@news.individual.
net:

If you just want to be insulting, replace the "y" with "ie." If you
put an "h" in the middle somewhere, though, it becomes a hipster
name for their Precious Unique Snowflake.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

[Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy]

Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:R9ydnXbnX_ObWjfN...@wightman.ca:

> On 2012-11-19, Lesley Weston
> <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> But isn't "Larry" a (genuine) diminutive of "Laurence"?
>>
>> Lesley.
>>
>
> Or Lawrence, even.
>
> So I'm told but my birth certificate is definitely 'Larry'.
>

In the same way my name isn't short for "Terrence."

[Robert Carnegie]

On Monday, 19 November 2012 23:55:51 UTC, Larry Moore wrote:
> On 2012-11-19, Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > But isn't "Larry" a (genuine) diminutive of "Laurence"?
>

> Or Lawrence, even.
>
> So I'm told but my birth certificate is definitely 'Larry'.

So, if I've got this straight, you like that you don't have people
calling you Larry when it isn't your name. Because it /is/ your name.

[Gary R. Schmidt]

So you never got "Laz"? Or "Lazza"?

Cheers,
Gary/Gaz/Gazza B-)

[GaryN]

"Gary R. Schmidt" <grsc...@acm.org> wrote in
news:prkrn9...@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au:

<snip>

> So you never got "Laz"? Or "Lazza"?
>
> Cheers,
> Gary/Gaz/Gazza B-)
>

Yeah, it's Gaz and Gazza that annoy me - I didn't ask to be named after
something you put in a stove to go camping or a wimpy footballer who cries
when he loses.

[Larry Moore]

On 2012-11-20, Gary R. Schmidt <grsc...@acm.org> wrote:
> So you never got "Laz"? Or "Lazza"?
>
> Cheers,
> Gary/Gaz/Gazza B-)
>

Yes, actually ... from my second wife (in the whole I preferred
'Atilla', petname from my first wife.)

[Gary R. Schmidt]

On 22/11/2012 11:01 AM, Larry Moore wrote:
> On 2012-11-20, Gary R. Schmidt <grsc...@acm.org> wrote:
>> So you never got "Laz"? Or "Lazza"?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gary/Gaz/Gazza B-)
>>
>
> Yes, actually ... from my second wife (in the whole I preferred
> 'Atilla', petname from my first wife.)
>

I was Gaz/Gazza from early on, possibly from when I became a toddler,
but definitely by the time I was playing in the street!

But then, we Australians will use a nickname in preference to a real
name whenever possible - even if only *just* possible, c.f. "Blue" or
"Bluey" as the nickname for someone with red hair.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

[Walter Bushell]

In article <tst0o9-...@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au>,

"Gary R. Schmidt" <grsc...@acm.org> wrote:

> I was Gaz/Gazza from early on, possibly from when I became a toddler,
> but definitely by the time I was playing in the street!
>
> But then, we Australians will use a nickname in preference to a real
> name whenever possible - even if only *just* possible, c.f. "Blue" or
> "Bluey" as the nickname for someone with red hair.

Yeah, like Eric the Red, who was blond. "You attend one Party meeting
and it lives with you forever."

--
This space unintentionally left blank.

[John S. Wilkins]

Or my mate Speed, who. talked. like. this.

[GaryN]

"Gary R. Schmidt" <grsc...@acm.org> wrote in news:tst0o9-n2e.ln1
@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au:

> On 22/11/2012 11:01 AM, Larry Moore wrote:
>> On 2012-11-20, Gary R. Schmidt <grsc...@acm.org> wrote:
>>> So you never got "Laz"? Or "Lazza"?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Gary/Gaz/Gazza B-)
>>>
>>
>> Yes, actually ... from my second wife (in the whole I preferred
>> 'Atilla', petname from my first wife.)
>>
> I was Gaz/Gazza from early on, possibly from when I became a toddler,
> but definitely by the time I was playing in the street!
>
> But then, we Australians will use a nickname in preference to a real
> name whenever possible - even if only *just* possible, c.f. "Blue" or
> "Bluey" as the nickname for someone with red hair.
>
> Cheers,
> Gary B-)
>

But some are obvious like:-

Menace - Nace, Chappo - Chapman, Tappy - Tappenden, Nancy - Nance.

Others more obscure like:

U.S. - Robin[1], Gonzo - x2 and I don't know why either, Hummer - Les.

Sometimes a name just stick and that's it.

gary

[1]U.S. short for Urban Spaceman as in http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=WGVwreJNWlk

[ppint. at pplay]

- hi; in article,
<c7adnScenI67njTN...@brightview.co.uk>,
un...@judgemental.plus.com "Nigel Stapley" confessed:

>I wish I'd been given a middle name. Barring it being absolutely
>outrageous, I would have used it in preference, as I've always disliked
>the one I have. My mother was never able to explain why she chose it.

- you could always adopt a soubriquet; or have bestowed upon
you a cognomen or phrase recognising some achievement or out-
standing characteristic, or notably eccentric behaviour...

>
>>>(1) It would have been sooner, but I've been stuck in bed for three days
>>>as a result of the tender attentions of Captain Sinus and The Snot Fairy.

- nigel "nostrilomo" stapley ?

- or perhaps also doubly apropos, nigel "the beak" stapley ?

>>
>>Glingle, glingle...
>
>Sniffle, sniffle, would be more apt. Along with, I'm afraid, glug, glug.

- <fx: dubiously>: nehru was a naturopath, but i'm not sure you're
_meant_ to be drinking pints - or even half-pints - of green snot...

>> Hope you're feeling better now.
>
>Getting there, thanks. This is the first time since Thursday afternoon that
>I've been able to spend more than 40 minutes or so out of bed at a time.

- trusting your regimen has you back on the road to health and
an enjoyment and appreciation of the pleasures afforded by life
and, optionally, the more ah, personally mundane experiential
delights of snot, bogies, catarrh & phlegm, nigel "the barbarian"
stapley,

- love - actually it may've been desai rather than nehru -
"but wood would not rhyme with gun, and bunn would" ppint.

[drop the "v", and change the "f" to a "g", to email or cc.]
--
"The people all paint themselves red, and eat monkeys,
whereof there is an inexhaustible supply in the hills."
- Histories, Book Four - Herodotus

[Larry Moore]

On 2012-11-20, Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:

> So, if I've got this straight, you like that you don't have people
> calling you Larry when it isn't your name. Because it /is/ your name.

Got it in one. I also appreciate being called on-time for
supper.