[I] Writers
Emma
range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
out there?
I haven't quite got SIGs figured out yet, but if you wish to reply by
email I'm on
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AfPhantom
Emma wrote in message <370DEF28...@nospam.bigfoot.com>...
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
I would _love_ to be a blooming[1] writer for a living,
but I keep finding that minor things get in my way, such
as a) a lack of ability to concentrate on one idea long
enough, b) a lack of ability to string my thoughts
together in a readable way, and c) a lack of ability. :-)
There _are_ a couple of people on this ng who ought
to be writing full-time, however - if they're not already,
that is...
Ethereally,
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AfPhantom
[1] As opposed to budding :-)
A bona fide Seraph of the Heavenly Host,
thoroughly and joyfully enailbh'elated and
glad to be afphianced to the magical
Mad Dragon and the Elysian Elaine
Heraldis
>
>
>I would _love_ to be a blooming[1] writer for a living,
>but I keep finding that minor things get in my way, such
>as a) a lack of ability to concentrate on one idea long
>enough, b) a lack of ability to string my thoughts
>together in a readable way, and c) a lack of ability. :-)
>
>There _are_ a couple of people on this ng who ought
>to be writing full-time, however - if they're not already,
>that is...
>
<choke, splutter>
The AfPhantom, lack of ability?!
Get a grip man. Your false/excessive modesty is not needed here <g>
I, for one, will certainly be queuing to buy any book you write.
So deal with the concentration/string[1] thing at once man, we're awaiting
your opus.
Herald
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Heather Knowles
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
<suspicious tone> Why? (It's OK, it's just that the last time I answered
a question like this, I ended up being spammed by dodgy 'agents' and
reader services...)
Well, I'll admit I've earned money from writing since I was 14, when I
used to write romantic stories about my friends and their favourite pop
stars/film stars - for a fee! I've had poetry published all over the
place, and a collection of it published which is now sadly out of print.
I've also had a fair few short stories in print, and educational drama
sketches/lesson plans (I used to be an English and Drama teacher). I
also wrote a load of stuff for a feminist revue group for a few years.
ATM I'm supposed to be working on my novel, but I've had a relapse with
my ME and my brain isn't up to it. As for the rest of afp, we have some
excellent parodists and filk-writers - I think Ailbhe has a load of
their stuff collected on her website. There's Shim's parody of 'Heaven
Can Wait' on afp at present, and I can't leave out Miq, who does a mean
parody of classic poems.
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Mary Messall
> From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
> range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> out there?
Do school literary magazines and contests with $25 and $50 prizes count?
I mean, I've been *published* (in a magazine with a circulation of about
1600 people who don't pay for it) and *paid* (very little) so that makes
me a professional, right?
-Mary (Hopefully...)
John Barberio
wrote:
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
Would Alt.devilbunnies count ?
How about cartoons ?
(http://www.barberio.freeserve.co.uk/john/zoionweb/)
We even have some Real Authors(TM) hanging around if you can flush
them out...
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> Emma <all_...@nospam.bigfoot.com> writes
> >From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
> >range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> >of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> >out there?
> ATM I'm supposed to be working on my novel, but I've had a relapse with
> my ME and my brain isn't up to it. As for the rest of afp, we have some
> excellent parodists and filk-writers - I think Ailbhe has a load of
> their stuff collected on her website. There's Shim's parody of 'Heaven
> Can Wait' on afp at present, and I can't leave out Miq, who does a mean
> parody of classic poems.
Indeed they are on the site, though it needs a lot of work (and I
have a free weekend ahead of me, so it is entirely possible that
work will, in fact, be done). I have collected a large number of
filks that are not on the site, and put them into html, so all I
need to do this weekend is to index them.
Anyone who notices any glaring errors/omissions by Tuesday
Evening (Tuesday, mind you, 13th of April), please email me, as I
should have finished my corrections by then...
http://www.ftech.net/~alhome/afp/filk/
Ailbhe
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Mike Knell
In article <370DEF28...@nospam.bigfoot.com>,
Emma <all_...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
I'd love to write properly, as it were, but then I guess everybody says
that. Insufficient attention span for anything other than Usenet.
I had a letter printed in the Guardian once. Does that count?
Mike "oh, and in the Short Wave Magazine, but let's not mention that.." K.
Emma
Mary Messall wrote:
> Do school literary magazines and contests with $25 and $50 prizes count?
> I mean, I've been *published* (in a magazine with a circulation of about
> 1600 people who don't pay for it) and *paid* (very little) so that makes
> me a professional, right?
>
> -Mary (Hopefully...)
IMHO, yes they do count. So you are a professional! Mind you, in that case so
am I because one of mine won a competition in Writers News about 18 months
ago!
Emma
Heather Knowles wrote:
> <suspicious tone> Why? (It's OK, it's just that the last time I answered
> a question like this, I ended up being spammed by dodgy 'agents' and
> reader services...)
No, nothing like that - I'm just interested in meeting up with some
like-minded people since I am going to have another go at being a writer - I
gave it up for a while as life kind of got in the way.
> Well, I'll admit I've earned money from writing since I was 14,
Cool!
> ATM I'm supposed to be working on my novel, but I've had a relapse with
> my ME and my brain isn't up to it.
Would it be appropriate to offer hugs? Everyone seems to do it, but I'm new
round here & a bit shy. I have started (ha, ha, I have 2 pages) a novel, so I
can empathise with you here.
Gideon Hallett
jolly decent type and shared with us:
>
>I'd love to write properly, as it were, but then I guess everybody says
>that. Insufficient attention span for anything other than Usenet.
>
>I had a letter printed in the Guardian once. Does that count?
Really? What did you write in about?
(Mind you, I can't help feeling that it's nearly always a waste
o' time doing such. Still, it gives you nice warm fuzzies to see
your name in print :)
>
>Mike "oh, and in the Short Wave Magazine, but let's not mention that.." K.
Well, I can only claim New Scientist and last month's Computer
Arts. Neither of which are exactly widely read. Ah well...
Gideon.
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Emma
John Barberio wrote:
> Would Alt.devilbunnies count ?
Don't know, haven't seen it I'm afraid. I have limited newsgroup access from
work, and none at home.
>
> How about cartoons ?
They definitely count. Again, I have limited web access, but I will have a
look next week!
Johanna
<snip bit about mpk having a letter published in the Guardian.
>Well, I can only claim New Scientist and last month's Computer
>Arts. Neither of which are exactly widely read. Ah well...
I saw the letter in the New Scientist - it was just before I started out as
an afper.
Warwick spotted the email address and said ' I'm sure I've seen that
somewhere before'.
So we checked, and he had. It was something to do with the Macdonalds court
case IIRC.
Hopefully by the end of the year I will be published, but it will probably
be as a second or third author on a scientific paper that no-one here will
ever see.
Johanna
nils
<all_...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
Well... - I am just finishing my first manuscript and hope
to get published soon <g> ...
Up to now I published all my works without charging
anyone... - A weekly (e-)column (still running), three short
story collections and a childrens book...
- Say a little prayer for my manuscript!
=O)
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Gideon Hallett
<j.mcn...@mcnicholl.demon.co.uk> was a jolly decent type and
shared with us:
>Gideon Hallett wrote in message <370e26da...@194.177.160.14>...
>
><snip bit about mpk having a letter published in the Guardian.
>
>>Well, I can only claim New Scientist and last month's Computer
>>Arts. Neither of which are exactly widely read. Ah well...
>
>
>I saw the letter in the New Scientist - it was just before I started out as
>an afper.
>Warwick spotted the email address and said ' I'm sure I've seen that
>somewhere before'.
>So we checked, and he had. It was something to do with the Macdonalds court
>case IIRC.
Correct. It was to do with the legendary "hot coffee" case; some
nerk sent a letter to NS saying "ho-ho, aren't these Yanks silly
suing about something like that"; so I wrote in to point out that
the woman in question was 79, suffered 3rd-degree burns to the
genital area and stayed in hospital for 8 days; that costs,
especially when you consider the Merkin healthcare system and
that the burns were that serious because McD's practice was to
serve their coffee 20C hotter than most places, despite some 700
recorded burns in the 10 years prior to the incident.
Anyway, you can find the full story at
http://www.caoc.com/mcdonald.html if you're interested.
>Hopefully by the end of the year I will be published, but it will probably
>be as a second or third author on a scientific paper that no-one here will
>ever see.
Tell us, and we'll all buy copies. By that same token, I might be
mentioned some day in a survey of Galactic-plane OH- masers
between 18h and 24h...
John Barberio
>I had a letter printed in the Guardian once. Does that count?
Not if it was Gaurdian OnLine, they print anything...
ESPECIALY if it USES lots of CAPITALS, or things like "Hotmails
sucsseful free e-mail service was due to the tagline 'Get a Free
Hotmail Adress at...'" (Anyone remember JUNO ?).
"Guardian On-Line, slightly better than Times Interface. But only
Just."
- J
I still deny being a NTK tipster. (www.ntk.net)
John Barberio
wrote:
>Don't know, haven't seen it I'm afraid. I have limited newsgroup access from
>work, and none at home.
I highly recomend and or endorse alt.devilbunnies, its still one of
the funniest groups on the internet. (And one of the oldest, quite a
bit older than afp I think)
If you cant get a feed, it is posable to get it on dejanews, or read
the www.devilbunnies.org archives. (There is talk of there being a
news.devilbunnies.org news server similar to news.lspace.org, but that
may not be for some time.)
- J (Who will be going back to Oxford Brookes in a few weeks, and
will be in the same situation, any news BOFH's want to lend a hand ?)
James Green
Pete Johns wrote in message <370E2601...@cheerful.com>...
>John Barberio wrote:
>> We even have some Real Authors(TM) hanging around if you can flush
>> them out...
>Unfortunately, PTerry is no longer one of them! *Sob* :'^(
Ahah! I've been meaning to ask some 1 about this. I've seen quotes of
PTerry writing on AFP, but haven't seen any posts by Him. Being fairly new,
I don't recall when he did post here, nor if (and why) he stopped. Any
enlightenment on the matter would be graciously recieved. With CCCBs then.
Yes lots of them if you insist.
HYCH (YC - you can; else read as HTH)
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Gideon Hallett, wisely or not. decided to share with us:
,snip,
>Correct. It was to do with the legendary "hot coffee" case; some
>nerk sent a letter to NS saying "ho-ho, aren't these Yanks silly
>suing about something like that"; so I wrote in to point out that
>the woman in question was 79, suffered 3rd-degree burns to the
>genital area and stayed in hospital for 8 days; that costs,
>especially when you consider the Merkin healthcare system and
>that the burns were that serious because McD's practice was to
>serve their coffee 20C hotter than most places, despite some 700
>recorded burns in the 10 years prior to the incident.
>
>Anyway, you can find the full story at
>http://www.caoc.com/mcdonald.html if you're interested.
<snip>
I hope you didn't use Merkin in yout letter yo NS. That could cause serious
misundersatndings!
claire allcock
> From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
> range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> out there?
Hmm, I like writing, if that counts. I won two poetry competitions,
in the first one I won 20ukp which was presented to me by the mayor
or someone. In the second I can't remember what I won, but it was
just a school competition so it was probably a bar of chocolate or
something. (And yes, Grymma, it was years ago so I have already eaten
it!) I would like to be a writer when I'm older but I would also like
to be an interior designer and a professional artist so don't expect
any novels coming into print just yet!
Seeya,
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madder moments, since I don't actually believe in re-incarnation.
Heather Knowles
>Heather Knowles wrote:
>
>> <suspicious tone> Why?
>No, nothing like that - I'm just interested in meeting up with some
>like-minded people since I am going to have another go at being a writer - I
>gave it up for a while as life kind of got in the way.
Phew, that's a relief....
>Would it be appropriate to offer hugs? Everyone seems to do it, but I'm new
>round here & a bit shy. I have started (ha, ha, I have 2 pages) a novel, so I
>can empathise with you here.
>
Thank you - all empathy/sympathy/chocolate welcome!
I'll be back to it soon, I hope, and I'll let everyone know when it gets
published <hollow laugh>.....
Son of Pedro
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
Not really a budding writer, but I do like to write for myself. Not
much, just an A4 page or two[1]. Really just what ever comes into
my head, but it has potential if I could ever get the hang of it
properly.
Haven't written anything in ages actually. Must sit down and do
that sometime, inbetween exam revision.
Gareth
[1] And my handwritting is small and cramped, so I can get 15 words
a line on average. Other people do 8 - 10.
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Paul E. Jamison
> From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
> range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> out there?
>
Budding writer here, and what started it, of all things, was a growing
interest in ferrets. My SO has two fuzkids, and I started surfing the 'Net
to learn more about them (and found tons of cute pictures, BTW) and came
across the concept of the Rainbow Bridge, which is where our beloved pets go
when they die, to wait for us and go with us to Heaven (or the equivalent --
I don't want to start one a religion thread.). I read two or three short
stories set at the Rainbow Bridge, and I thought "I could write stories like
this!", and I had some ideas about the Rainbow Bridge idea that I wanted to
explore. So I wrote "Tuffy's Story" (still my favorite) and have since
followed it with two more. And I have two or three further stories forming
in my little grey cells that I'll get around to writing someday.
I have the stories online, at
http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Farm/7256/Rainbow_Bridge.htm, which is
affiliated with my homepage (and are the primary reasons that I got a
homepage in the first place). The reaction from pet owners has been very
positive (and tearful). And I'm really, seriously considering getting them
published, when I have a few more stories written.
Paul E. Jamison, Esq.
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Nathan F. Yospe
13:14:32 +0100, you claimed:
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
Um... magazine (and very briefly syndicated) and school paper published,
under one pseudonym, a comic strip, some political cartoons, and various
other cartoony stuff... some short storied, under a different pseudonym,
have recieved interest, if not yet publication, as have two novels. That
said, I'm not my pseudonyms, so all I can claim to have published is the
sort of poetry one tends to find in state's best annual collections.
Look, there's no reason we can't get along. Aside from one minor detail:
You're a rat, I'm a cat, cats eat rats. And I hate to befriend my lunch.
Nathan F. Yospe: email yospe#hawaii.edu; <http://www2.hawaii.edu/~yospe>
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Warren Jones
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
I've done a bit of writing for the Uni magazine here in Bath (OK, so I'm
the editor, but everything I write has to be approved by the deputy ed.,
so I can't just get *anything* in there ;), but that's been more in the
line of reviews and stuff than fiction. I'm planning on trying to get a
bit of freelance work at some point (hopefully!).
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is an entirely different story. . . . . <rofl>!
Kathy
Emma wrote in message <370DEF28...@nospam.bigfoot.com>...
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
>
>I haven't quite got SIGs figured out yet, but if you wish to reply by
>email I'm on
>all_...@bigfoot.com
>
Dave Stone
> From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
> range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> out there?
I've been called the bastard cross of Pratchett out of Adams on bad acid
in my time. Being called *successful*, on the other hand, has been
strangely elusive ...
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> ... Being fairly new,
> I don't recall when he did post here, nor if (and why) he stopped. Any
It all stems from potential trouble about people claiming he nicked
their ideas, people posting discworld ideas that were in production, and
tendonitis.
Err - others who wish to fill out the details from here will be most
gratefully welcomed.
Paul Wilkins
Gizelle
<370DEF28...@nospam.bigfoot.com>:
> From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated
> by a wide range of people, with a lot of interests and
> knowledge on a wide variety of subjects. Are there any
> budding writers (or even successful ones!) out there?
>
I had quite a bit published in things like school magazines -
poetry and short stories - but that was ages ago and now I
shudder to even read it myself:-(
I also have a book I am working on at the moment, but can't help
wondering how far I will actually get as there are several
others that I gave up on and couldn't bear to throw away -
enough to occupy a rather large cupboard and a few boxes.
Does that count?
Gizelle
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mist
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
>
I would be a writer, but I've found that in order to do that, you have
to sit down and write for extended periods of time. And my room is a
mess.
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esmi
yo...@hawaii.remove.this.edu says...
<about writing>
> Um... magazine (and very briefly syndicated) and school paper published,
> under one pseudonym, a comic strip, some political cartoons, and various
> other cartoony stuff... some short storied, under a different pseudonym,
> have recieved interest, if not yet publication, as have two novels. That
> said, I'm not my pseudonyms, so all I can claim to have published is the
> sort of poetry one tends to find in state's best annual collections.
Err...how can you *not* be your own pseudonyms? Is this just taking the
whole "alias" bit a little far or do you feel that you're almost a
different person when you write under another name?
esmi
Nathan F. Yospe
+0100, you claimed:
>In article <370e6202...@news.lspace.org>,
>yo...@hawaii.remove.this.edu says...
><about writing>
>> have recieved interest, if not yet publication, as have two novels. That
>> said, I'm not my pseudonyms, so all I can claim to have published is the
>> sort of poetry one tends to find in state's best annual collections.
>Err...how can you *not* be your own pseudonyms? Is this just taking the
>whole "alias" bit a little far or do you feel that you're almost a
>different person when you write under another name?
Look, I'm mildly schizoid, OK? No, really, what I meant was, all I could
point to and say, "See? That's my name there, it is, and I wrote that!",
is some so-so poetry. Some of which is on my web page. The rest would be
more like, "Look, that's me, really it is, I just write under a penname,
is all."
Carl J. Lawley
mist wrote in message ...
>Emma <all_...@nospam.bigfoot.com> scribed to us that -
>>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>>out there?
>>
>
>I would be a writer, but I've found that in order to do that, you have
>to sit down and write for extended periods of time. And my room is a
>mess.
>
no end to your productivity in other areas.
Oh, on topic still, I used to sell (my) short stories when I was about nine
or ten, and co-wrote mini-plays. All that ended when I hit the grand old
age of eleven. 8(
Carl J Lawley
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Mike Knell
In article <370e405e...@news.freeserve.net>,
John Barberio <j...@gruk.algonet.se> wrote:
>I highly recomend and or endorse alt.devilbunnies, its still one of
>the funniest groups on the internet. (And one of the oldest, quite a
>bit older than afp I think)
I've had a delve in the UUNET control message archives - it was created
originally in Oct 90, rmgrouped as bogus the next day, and nobody bothered
recreating it until Mar 1 1992, which is a month after afp's original
newgroup (30/1/92). A booster from none other then Joel Furr on 20/7/93
referred to it as having "been around for over a year", so it looks like
the 1992 creation is the one that took, at least as far as widespread
propagation is concerned..
None of which makes it (or afp) one of the oldest groups on USENET -
there are many groups which can trace ancestry back to the original
pre-Great Renaming USENET (between 1979/80 and 1985) - anything in
alt. is a relative spring chicken by comparison, dating back no further
than May 1987.
>If you cant get a feed, it is posable to get it on dejanews, or read
>the www.devilbunnies.org archives. (There is talk of there being a
>news.devilbunnies.org news server similar to news.lspace.org, but that
>may not be for some time.)
Please try and get your local feeds fixed before reading news from
distant servers - it may be just a matter of asking your news admins to
add it. IMO, the vast majority will be perfectly happy. Reading news
across the larger span of the Internet is slow, inefficient, and a waste
of bandwidth.
Mike "there are different and darker cabals now" K.
John Barberio
>I've had a delve in the UUNET control message archives - it was created
>originally in Oct 90, rmgrouped as bogus the next day, and nobody bothered
>recreating it until Mar 1 1992, which is a month after afp's original
>the original pre-Great Renaming USENET (between 1979/80 and 1985)
However, the *original* devilbunnies group was created in the mid-80's
"The group was created between 1979 and 1990. I would guess around the
mid to late 1980's. I don't know if the group was always called
alt.devilbunnies. It may have been called something else early on."
- John Katen
>Please try and get your local feeds fixed before reading news from
>distant servers - it may be just a matter of asking your news admins to
>add it. IMO, the vast majority will be perfectly happy.
Unfortunatly, there is a trend toward news not being a priority (Even
in comercial ISPs), and Brookes refuses to add any alt.* groups at
all. (Except for some reason the religious ones)
- J
Mike Knell
In article <370e3b18...@news.freeserve.net>,
John Barberio <j...@gruk.algonet.se> wrote:
>On 9 Apr 1999 16:55:15 +0100, Mike Knell <m...@tuatha.org> wrote:
>>I had a letter printed in the Guardian once. Does that count?
>
>Not if it was Gaurdian OnLine, they print anything...
>
>ESPECIALY if it USES lots of CAPITALS, or things like "Hotmails
>sucsseful free e-mail service was due to the tagline 'Get a Free
>Hotmail Adress at...'" (Anyone remember JUNO ?).
Embarrassingly, yes, it was the OnLine section, about 4 years ago. I sent
Jack Schofield a quick e-mail castigating them for referring to the
Internet's premier mail transport agent as "SendMail", pointing out
that such studlycaps were generally the domain of the marketroids, and
the gits only went and printed it in the next edition..
Still, it was right next to an article about Cliff Stoll, so I felt I was
in illustrious company.
Mike "remind me to put "NOT FOR PUBLICATION" in future" K.
Enix
before its sad demise... <crying>... Sorry. And they were all printed
(even the mad ones where it looked like I was on drugs). I started my own
short story but my computer crashed and then I got bogged down in A-Levels
and then I gave up... How's that?
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Emma <all_...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:370DEF28...@nospam.bigfoot.com...
> From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
> range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> out there?
>
Miq
>I sent
>Jack Schofield a quick e-mail castigating them for referring to the
>Internet's premier mail transport agent as "SendMail", pointing out
>that such studlycaps were generally the domain of the marketroids, and
>the gits only went and printed it in the next edition..
'Pointing out'? Sounds more like a mild rant than a factual
correction.
>Mike "remind me to put "NOT FOR PUBLICATION" in future" K.
What on earth do you expect them to do with it, other than publish
it? If it's a factual correction, then that's the simplest way to
get it on the record; if it's a debating point, that's the best
way to get a good argy going.
--
Miq
Sorcha
>
<snip>
>
> Well, I can only claim New Scientist and last month's Computer
> Arts. Neither of which are exactly widely read. Ah well...
>
<intense scrutiny of post, the dives for bookshelf>
What, March or April[1]? What did you write on?
Should I get worried that my footnote is longer than my post?
[1] Yes , I *do* know that it's April now, but the date the mags hit the
shops and the date on the cover bear only the slightest relation to each
other.
Sorcha
--
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it doesn't require batteries.' - Bruce Sterling
Elfie B. Taylor
> >From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
> >range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> >of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> >out there?
http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/3472/fayry.htm
I'm running a sort of interactive story, and so far have 4 authors taking
turns, myself included, and I'm ashamed to say I keep taking over -- it's
either a God complex, or an Editor complex. I based it on my old BBS
(that's Bulletin Board System for you non-North American types) FayryLand.
It was a role-players'/writers' board -- every user logged in as a
character, and even "real life" conversations in the main message base were
written in story format... <sigh> I miss my board...
Take a look, if you like, and if you like even more, you may join!
Elfie
Elfie B. Taylor
> I had quite a bit published in things like school magazines -
> poetry and short stories - but that was ages ago and now I
> shudder to even read it myself:-(
>
> I also have a book I am working on at the moment, but can't help
> wondering how far I will actually get as there are several
> others that I gave up on and couldn't bear to throw away -
> enough to occupy a rather large cupboard and a few boxes.
<emote>Sister!</emote>
Cannibalize the stories you know will never see ink or drum of printing
press. They make excellent fodder for the ones you think might actually
make you some money, if not feed you.
Meg (the Magpie) Thornton
wrote:
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
>
Well, I'm not exactly a "budding" writer (I've been writing reasonably
steadily, on and off, for well over 10 years now) but neither am I
"successful" - I've never submitted anything for publication. I keep
meaning to settle down one day and get a website up and running again
(I used to have one, but I shifted cities back in December, and
haven't settled down much since), at which point I may well wind up
putting at least some of my stuff up on the web.
Most of what I write is poetry, and short-short stories (under 1 A4
page, typed), although I do experiment with turning (other people's)
novels into film or play scripts, and I have a few dozen ideas which
may actually become larger pieces when I obtain a tuit of appropriate
circularity.
--
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fee.
frogjuice
>On Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:14:32 +0100, Emma writ>
>>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>>out there?
Hmm. Successful, as in i can start middle and finish something, or published?
Ive reached the dizzying heights of school magazines, but never get round to
actually submitting stuff. Ive had it critiqued and worked on it.
Im a budding wannabe when i get round to it-er.
any help?
I just havent decided on a classification yet.
Sf, Fantasy, dark fantasy, horror, poetry (all subjects0 kids poetry, and
stories
heck, i just likes writing.
I always have. Ive got twenty years experience at it!
Sam(antha)
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Mike Knell
In article <bY2TMDAb...@kew1.demon.co.uk>,
Miq <Mi...@kew1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>'Pointing out'? Sounds more like a mild rant than a factual
>correction.
No, a factual - well, more like style-related - correction written in
a fairly light manner. Certainly not a rant.
>>Mike "remind me to put "NOT FOR PUBLICATION" in future" K.
>
>What on earth do you expect them to do with it, other than publish
>it? If it's a factual correction, then that's the simplest way to
>get it on the record; if it's a debating point, that's the best
>way to get a good argy going.
Well, I didn't quite understand why they wanted to print it, unless
they thought it was strangely amusing - editorial correspondence is
not necessarily always published (as I'm sure the green ink files of
most newspapers will reveal in exciting ways). Certainly I wouldn't
have if I'd been in that position, but oh well..
m.
Nobby
> range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> out there?
Yes, there's one here! I haven't had any of my stories published yet but I
have had some cartoons published in a free magazine that doesn't got out to
many people, if that counts.
Nobby
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>
> From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
> range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> out there?
Nearly forgot! I'm currently [1] co-writing a book. Um, I guess
it's a sort of satirical rant at humans, society, culture, and
geography. Oh, and pigeons. I'm almost certain it's got pigeons in
it somewhere. Oh dear.
The reason I've almost forgotted about it is that progress is very
slow. Mainly due to the fact that I hardly ever see the co-author
(not least 'cos he spends most of his time in Scotland, while I'm
down here in the South East of England) And when I do see him, we
usually have other things to talk about.
OTOH, I might go and visit him the week after next.
I won't divulge too much about it yet, though, 'cos you might not
buy it if tell you what it's about. Of course, we also have to get
it published first,
but since writing is currently on a timescale of "before we die",
you could be waiting a bit yet.
Magrathea.
[1] "Currently"? Yeah, good joke.
Nobby
frogjuice <frog....@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:7eso97$hj5$1...@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net...
<Cyberchainsaw>
> Hmm. Successful, as in i can start middle and finish something, or
published?
> Ive reached the dizzying heights of school magazines, but never get round
to
> actually submitting stuff. Ive had it critiqued and worked on it.
> Im a budding wannabe when i get round to it-er.
> any help?
I can suggest taking to heart what a publisher tells you, as it definitely
works. Writing a synopsis is also a good idea when submitting for
publication; as that way the publisher is more likely to take notice of your
work - they can read a sheet of paper quickly and decide whether they want
to look through the novel based on your outline of what it's about.
> I just havent decided on a classification yet.
> Sf, Fantasy, dark fantasy, horror, poetry (all subjects0 kids poetry, and
> stories
> heck, i just likes writing.
So why decide on a classification now? If (when?) you get published, see
what seems to be most popular with people who buy your books and go with
that.
That's what I think anyway. From what I've seen it tends to work.
8 ' Flesh Eating Dragon
^
| Nearly forgot! I'm currently [1] co-writing a book
| The reason I've almost forgotted about it is that progress is very
| slow. Mainly due to the fact that I hardly ever see the co-author
| (not least 'cos he spends most of his time in Scotland, while I'm
| down here in the South East of England)
Why is that an obstacle? My co-writer and I haven't seen
each other face to face since . . . oh, about five months
before we started!
--
Here and there I like to preserve a few islands of sanity
within the vast sea of absurdity which is my mind.
After all, you can't survive as an eight foot tall
flesh eating dragon if you've got no concept of reality.
Michael Grant
A long time ago, on a Usenet far, far away, Emma scribed:
^
> From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
> range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> out there?
I got a C for English GCSE, and a B for English Literature. I
therefore consider this makes me qualified to write novels. ;^)
I got a rejection slip from "Interzone" (a UK SF magazine) the other
day that was _handwritten_. Either I'm going up in the world, or
somebody's printer/pooter/copier was broken.
I have yet to grow any buds though.
And as for success, I was publically (well, on rec.arts.sf.composition)
seen to state that if I was not published before the year was out, I'd
eat my hat.
I added that that gave me eleven months (at the time) to remember how
to make origami hats out of rice paper.
Meep! Meep!
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>
> The Legendary Planet <magr...@geocities.com> wrote:
> ^
> | Nearly forgot! I'm currently [1] co-writing a book
> ...
> | The reason I've almost forgotted about it is that progress is very
> | slow. Mainly due to the fact that I hardly ever see the co-author
> | (not least 'cos he spends most of his time in Scotland, while I'm
> | down here in the South East of England)
> v
>
> Why is that an obstacle? My co-writer and I haven't seen
> each other face to face since . . . oh, about five months
> before we started!
Well we tend to bounce ideas off one another quite a bit. In fact,
thats how the idea of writing a book of them started IIRC. It
doesn't _prevent_ work it, but there's somewhat more inspiration
when we're talking to each other about what we're writing. When you
say haven't seen, I assume you've had some other form of
communication?
Magrathea.
Sonic the Screwdriver
Mike Knell wrote in message <7el7t3$1mq$1...@dagda.tuatha.org>...
>I had a letter printed in the Guardian once. Does that count?
I had a letter printed in 'Spare Rib' when I was 9 about how sexist my
teacher was. She was not amused to hear of it.
I am now nearly at the end of the 2nd year of an Imaginative Writing BA, but
unfortunately have not since seen my work in print.
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Sonic the Screwdriver
Dave Stone wrote in message <1dq141p.10b...@sgloomi.demon.co.uk>...
>I've been called the bastard cross of Pratchett out of Adams on bad acid
>in my time. Being called *successful*, on the other hand, has been
>strangely elusive ...
Are you perchance Dave Stone the Doctor Who New Adventures writer? If so I
met you at Paul Cornell's party last year and argued with you about Johnny
And The Dead :-). What a small world usenet is...or isn't if you are, in
fact, a different and completely unrelated Dave Stone.
Sonic the Screwdriver
Emma wrote in message <370DEF28...@nospam.bigfoot.com>...
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
Budding, hopefully, successful...does a large collection of very nice
rejection letters from very prestigious publishers count? Most are for a
teenage sci-fi novel I wrote at 16-17 which I'm now relieved didn't get
anywhere, but the BBC thought quite long and hard about a script for a kids
TV series about hackers I did, they even sent a letter saying they'd like to
think a little longer and show it to the new exec. producer before, some
time later, sending a letter saying no, but try again. It's now doing the
rounds of everywhere in the Writer's and Artist's yearbook that gave the
impression they could be persuaded to do children's drama, two more
rejections so far but I'm still trying...
I'm doing a degree in Imaginative Writing (well, it's something to do) so at
the moment I'm mainly writing what they tell me to.
Gideon Hallett
<sorcha...@esatclear.ie> was a jolly decent type and shared
with us:
>Gideon Hallett wrote:
>>
><snip>
>>
>> Well, I can only claim New Scientist and last month's Computer
>> Arts. Neither of which are exactly widely read. Ah well...
>>
>
><intense scrutiny of post, the dives for bookshelf>
>What, March or April[1]? What did you write on?
>Should I get worried that my footnote is longer than my post?
March. I was annoyed by the fact that they were forever hyping up
squillion-pound toys, so wrote them a non-rant about how good
Open Source/Free Software things like POV-Ray and the GIMP were
for people who didn't have zillions of pounds spare.
I also gave into temptation and did a little bit of GNU/Linux
evangelism since they seemed to have an unhealthy fondness for
NT; their reply was "Linux is a nightmare for even a hardened
tech-head; all those command lines..." - which goes to show
exactly how much they know on the subject.
(They also failed to point out that the extremely well-done and
realistic graphic they put beside the letter was actually
produced with POV-Ray. Which is a bit of an error if you're going
to slag POV-Ray off, as they did.)
>
>[1] Yes , I *do* know that it's April now, but the date the mags hit the
>shops and the date on the cover bear only the slightest relation to each
>other.
Shouldn't the August edition be out next week?
Gideon.
(For anyone interested, visit http://www.povray.org/ and
http://www.gimp.org/ - there's even a GIMP port for Windows now.)
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In article <924121552.26973.3...@news.demon.co.uk>,
Sonic the Screwdriver <so...@foxtrot.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> ... but the BBC thought quite long and hard about a script for a kids
>TV series about hackers I did ...
I hope you mean hackers as in
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.html -
otherwise you might find yourself getting a couple of crotchety letters
from miserable gits like myself.
The word was in use in a computer-related context a _long_ time before
parts of the mainstream started using it erroneously to mean "computer
criminal".
Mike "born to pedant" K.
Uncle Pedro
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
>
<fx: blushes deeply>
..'cos I realised that I do indeed have some schreibing
published - on the Web!
I have to say with all confidence, it's a bit closer to RL than
my posts (g) but not that much (G), 'cos it relates to Bonfires
and Guy Fawkes an' stuff, which is so much fun that we don't
just do it on the 5th November but almost every Saturday night
from (_this_ year) 4th September to 27th November, Oi do berleev.
You can check it out (boast boast) on:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~bonboy/fletching.htm
or search for Hastings Borough Bonfire Society and check out the
links, if that's your 'bag' do I still hear them say?
(there _may_ even be a photy there somewheres of Oi buildin' erm
Foire - gert big beggar'nall it were...)
(/sussex accent)
Yay, fame is easy, it's fortune that's a swine......
Uncle Pedro
(nom de plume <g> Peter Welch[1])
[1] only I don't use the 'r'. I got the name cheap in Woolworths
'cos there was a letter missing and....no, no, not the straps...
sig lit touchpaper & retired to a safe distance (_not_)!
Stig M. Valstad
>
>>I had a letter printed in the Guardian once. Does that count?
>
>
>I had a letter printed in 'Spare Rib' when I was 9 about how sexist my
>teacher was. She was not amused to hear of it.
I've had letters printed in New Pathways and New Scientist[2]
and about 15 short stories published in a magazine that is
Norway's largest in its genre (no I'm not going to say which
magazine or what genre in public, you'll have to guess or ask
me privately). I was considered one of the best writers for
that magazine which says more about the quality of their other
writers than about my writing.
[2] Does anybody know any other magazines with 'New' in the
title that I can send letters to?
--
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No Hope = No Fear
Carl J. Lawley
13:14:32 +0100, you claimed:
>
>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>out there?
Well, I had this idea for a series of characters for comedy sketch show, and
sent it to the BBC. So impressed were they with my talents, they decided to
create not one, but three series of it, and it became one of the hottest
programmes on television.
Which was nice.
Paul J Whitehouse
(Sorry - IGMC)
8 ' Flesh Eating Dragon
^
| [2] Does anybody know any other magazines with 'New' in the
| title that I can send letters to?
I wouldn't have any idea^W remotest clue.
apm.
Heraldis
Carl J. Lawley wrote in message <7f64po$lr$1...@library.lspace.org>...
>
>Well, I had this idea for a series of characters for comedy sketch show,
and
>sent it to the BBC. So impressed were they with my talents, they decided
to
>create not one, but three series of it, and it became one of the hottest
>programmes on television.
Which one, which one???? Don't leave us all in suspense!!
>Which was nice.
Definitely. Another superstar on our froup! (Well, depends which series it
was, really)
Herald
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Emma <all_...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
> From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
> range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> out there?
>
> email I'm on
> all_...@bigfoot.com
>
>
professional writer & editor (both fiction & none fiction) for more than 28
years now, having started my career writing picture story scripts for kids
comics (any ex- Bunty, Debbie, Mandy, Judy readers out there?!). Part of my
job as an editor is to recognise and encourage new talent and. . . . .
If there aren't other writers out there, there certainly should be! I've
spotted a few "potentials" amongst the members of this group. I won't
embarrass them by naming names (they may have an idea who they are, anyway)
but two in particular should "give up the day jobs"!!!
Alwynna
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KathyKantypowicz
sti...@c2i.net (Stig M. Valstad) wrote:
>
> I've had letters printed in New Pathways and New Scientist[2]
> and about 15 short stories published in a magazine that is
> Norway's largest in its genre (no I'm not going to say which
> magazine or what genre in public, you'll have to guess or ask
> me privately). I was considered one of the best writers for
> that magazine which says more about the quality of their other
> writers than about my writing.
>
> [2] Does anybody know any other magazines with 'New' in the
> title that I can send letters to?
>
> --
> Stig M. Valstad - sti...@c2i.net - http://home.sol.no/~svalstad/
>
> No Hope = No Fear
Try looking for a book called "The Writers & Artists Yearbook" at your local
library/ bookshop, Stig. . . . it's where most new freelancers find their
markets.
Alwynna
(Wicked Witch Of The West)
KathyKantypowicz
mist <new$re...@misthaven.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Emma <all_...@nospam.bigfoot.com> scribed to us that -
> >From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
> >range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
> >of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
> >out there?
> >
>
> to sit down and write for extended periods of time. And my room is a
> mess.
>
> --
> Love and CCCBs, Mist
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> <URL:http://www.misthaven.demon.co.uk/> afpengaged to Helen. 8-)
So's mine but it's so much more *fun* than working for a living. . . .
<rofl>!
Alwynna
mist
-
>In article <uxqTUKAI...@misthaven.demon.co.uk>,
> mist <new$re...@misthaven.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I would be a writer, but I've found that in order to do that, you have
>> to sit down and write for extended periods of time. And my room is a
>> mess.
>>
>
><rofl>!
>
What is, having a room full of mess??
*g*
Carl J. Lawley
Heraldis wrote in message <7f6vo7$1pa$1...@library.lspace.org>...
>
>Carl J. Lawley wrote in message <7f64po$lr$1...@library.lspace.org>...
>>
>>Well, I had this idea for a series of characters for comedy sketch show,
>and
>>sent it to the BBC. So impressed were they with my talents, they decided
>to
>>create not one, but three series of it, and it became one of the hottest
>>programmes on television.
>
>
>Which one, which one???? Don't leave us all in suspense!!
>
>
>>Which was nice.
>
>
>Definitely. Another superstar on our froup! (Well, depends which series
it
>was, really)
>
Clue-a-gram sent.
Carl J Lawley
co. & Ponder Stibbons
<alw...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>In article <370DEF28...@nospam.bigfoot.com>,
> Emma <all_...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>> range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>> of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>> out there?
>>
>> I haven't quite got SIGs figured out yet, but if you wish to reply by
>> email I'm on
>> all_...@bigfoot.com
>>
>>
>I'm a published author (though non fiction) & have been working as a
>professional writer & editor (both fiction & none fiction) for more than 28
>years now, having started my career writing picture story scripts for kids
>comics (any ex- Bunty, Debbie, Mandy, Judy readers out there?!). Part of my
<snip>
Yeah! Me! I've got the first Bunty and the first Judy comics (plus a
few hundred following editions) in my loft! I thought at one time
they might be wanted by collectors, but I used to cut off the back
cover with the dressing dollies on :-) so they probably aren't worth
anything :-(
Ah! Nostalgia! It's not what it used to be!
--
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and eternally, undyingly afpbeloved of Karl
The Things are also People
Dilesj
<ca...@lawley7.spam.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>Well, I had this idea for a series of characters for comedy sketch show, and
>sent it to the BBC. So impressed were they with my talents, they decided to
>create not one, but three series of it, and it became one of the hottest
>programmes on television.
>
Ooh, you got me all excited there!
>Which was nice.
>
>Paul J Whitehouse
>
Then I got to this bit
>(Sorry - IGMC)
Suits you, sir.
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(elaine...@takethisout.cwcom.net) wibbled...
> On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:51:19 GMT, KathyKantypowicz
> <alw...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
> [Snip]
> >I'm a published author (though non fiction) & have been working as a
> >professional writer & editor (both fiction & none fiction) for more than 28
> >years now, having started my career writing picture story scripts for kids
> >comics (any ex- Bunty, Debbie, Mandy, Judy readers out there?!).
> <snip>
> Yeah! Me! I've got the first Bunty and the first Judy comics (plus a
> few hundred following editions) in my loft! [Snip]
I never really "got into" all those "girlie" comics... I was far more
interested in "Whizzer 'n Chips" or "the Beano" (and other similar
comics)
Suzi
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mist wrote in message ...
That, too. . . . . <lol>!!
Kathy
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> fact, a different and completely unrelated Dave Stone.
I'm that one, as opposed to this minor but richer one who seems to be a
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Paul Wilkins
> What is, having a room full of mess??
That could almost be a philosophical question.
Q: What is having a room full of mess?
A: ??
Paul Wilkins
co. & Ponder Stibbons
nos...@lovegoddess.free-online.co.uk (Suzi) wrote:
>In article <37186a0...@news.cwcom.net>, co. & Ponder Stibbons
>(elaine...@takethisout.cwcom.net) wibbled...
>
>> On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:51:19 GMT, KathyKantypowicz
>> <alw...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>> [Snip]
>> >I'm a published author (though non fiction) & have been working as a
>> >professional writer & editor (both fiction & none fiction) for more than 28
>> >years now, having started my career writing picture story scripts for kids
>> >comics (any ex- Bunty, Debbie, Mandy, Judy readers out there?!).
>> <snip>
>
>> Yeah! Me! I've got the first Bunty and the first Judy comics (plus a
>> few hundred following editions) in my loft! [Snip]
>
>I never really "got into" all those "girlie" comics... I was far more
>interested in "Whizzer 'n Chips" or "the Beano" (and other similar
>comics)
Oh but in *those* days Bunty and Judy weren't "girlie" comics! They
only got like that much later. [1] Yes, they were comics *for girls*
admittedly, but they were in no way "girlie" in the modern sense.
I wouldn't have been seen dead reading a "girlie" comic - even in
those days! What do you take me for? ;-) [2]
[1] Don't forget, IIRC I must be talking about 40+ years ago! <shock!>
[2] I also got Dandy, Beano and Eagle - good old Dan Dare!
Kathy Kantypowicz
Paul Wilkins wrote in message
<37196603...@student.canterbury.ac.nz>...
Think this should be a multichoice jobbie. . . . .tick the answer most
closely relevant to you:-
A: (1)Three kids, two dogs and a disinclination for housework. . . . . . . .
(2) Comfortable. . . . .
(3) merely an indication that you're halfway through the newest
Pratchett novel. .
Kathy
8 ' Flesh Eating Dragon
^
| > What is, having a room full of mess??
|
| That could almost be a philosophical question.
|
| Q: What is having a room full of mess?
|
| A: ??
But "full", in its literal sense, implies minimisation of
the gaps between the items that constitute the "mess"
(otherwise the room wouldn't really be "full"), and
minimisation of gaps implies "order", hence a room that
is full of mess is necessarily ordered.
HTH
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within the vast sea of absurdity which is my mind.
After all, you can't survive as an eight foot tall
flesh eating dragon if you've got no concept of reality.
Paul Wilkins
> | That could almost be a philosophical question.
> |
> | Q: What is having a room full of mess?
> |
> | A: ??
> v
>
> But "full", in its literal sense, implies minimisation of
> the gaps between the items that constitute the "mess"
> (otherwise the room wouldn't really be "full"), and
> minimisation of gaps implies "order", hence a room that
> is full of mess is necessarily ordered.
>
> HTH
Try applying that methodology to a full fragmented harddrive.
Nice try though :)
Next please!
Paul Wilkins
8 ' Flesh Eating Dragon
^
| > | That could almost be a philosophical question.
| > |
| > | Q: What is having a room full of mess?
| > |
| > | A: ??
| > v
| >
| > But "full", in its literal sense, implies minimisation of
| > the gaps between the items that constitute the "mess"
| > (otherwise the room wouldn't really be "full"), and
| > minimisation of gaps implies "order", hence a room that
| > is full of mess is necessarily ordered.
|
| Nice try though :)
What if I said that the full = ordered rule applies only
in dimensions higher than two?
Disk space is (mapped to) a 2D structure, so it doesn't
apply. Room space is (at least) 3D, so it does. Mess is
fractal; an ordered mess is as close as we like to 3D.
So, you see, you haven't out-philosophised me yet!
Keep trying.
Heraldis
Carl J. Lawley wrote in message <7f8too$i0i$1...@library.lspace.org>...
>>
>You know, sometimes I could just cry. It's my own fault, I suppose.
>Clue-a-gram sent.
>
Clue-a-gram received, reply:
DOH!
(Actually, haven't watched the relevant show since the first episode, so
wasn't likely to get the ref.)
<Sighs, feeling rather silly>
Herald
-----------------------------------------
in...@fdhoekstra.nl
>
> | > the gaps between the items that constitute the "mess"
> | > (otherwise the room wouldn't really be "full"), and
> | > minimisation of gaps implies "order", hence a room that
> | > is full of mess is necessarily ordered.
> |
> | Try applying that methodology to a full fragmented harddrive.
> | Nice try though :)
>
> in dimensions higher than two?
> Disk space is (mapped to) a 2D structure, so it doesn't
> apply. Room space is (at least) 3D, so it does. Mess is
> fractal; an ordered mess is as close as we like to 3D.
AAMOF, drive space is one-dimensional; at least, it's
organised that way. This means that you could move your
minimum number of dimensions to two; just as well, or
my desktop would be ordered, which, to me, is a thought
abhorrent.
Richard
8 ' Flesh Eating Dragon
^
| AAMOF, drive space is one-dimensional; at least, it's
| organised that way.
Ah yes, you spotted the deliberate error. All applicable
types of points duly awarded.
ingenious paradox
>AAMOF, drive space is one-dimensional
>Richard
Richard you're doing it again....
Logical bonds
Julie
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Martin Julian DeMello
> Paul Wilkins wrote, quoting myself and respectively himself:
> | > | That could almost be a philosophical question.
> | > |
> | > | Q: What is having a room full of mess?
> | > |
> | > | A: ??
> | > v
> | >
> | > the gaps between the items that constitute the "mess"
> | > (otherwise the room wouldn't really be "full"), and
> | > minimisation of gaps implies "order", hence a room that
> | > is full of mess is necessarily ordered.
> |
> | Try applying that methodology to a full fragmented harddrive.
> | Nice try though :)
> What if I said that the full = ordered rule applies only
> in dimensions higher than two?
What if I called a dog's tail a leg? :)
> Disk space is (mapped to) a 2D structure, so it doesn't
> apply. Room space is (at least) 3D, so it does. Mess is
> fractal; an ordered mess is as close as we like to 3D.
Hrm - you could have a room full of mess, but without order, as long as you
accept that there are different types of mess. If you feel that all mess is
a mere instantiation of the Platonic ideal of Mess, I can only say that
you're a sad individual, a teenager, or both :)
Of course, there's always the Bistromathic approach, where you take one look
at the freshly-arrived food and say 'ok, who ordered this mess?'
--
Martin DeMello
Paul Wilkins
> in dimensions higher than two?
>
> apply. Room space is (at least) 3D, so it does. Mess is
> fractal; an ordered mess is as close as we like to 3D.
>
> Keep trying.
Hard drives are multi plattered?
Paul Wilkins
8 ' Flesh Eating Dragon
^
| What if I called a dog's tail a leg? :)
Come back after another couplamillion years of evolution
and it might be.
^
| Hrm - you could have a room full of mess, but without order, as long as you
| accept that there are different types of mess. If you feel that all mess is
| a mere instantiation of the Platonic ideal of Mess, I can only say that
| you're a sad individual, a teenager, or both :)
v
If you want to know about platonic ideals of mess I could
send you a photo.
KathyKantypowicz
elaine...@takethisout.cwcom.net (co. & Ponder Stibbons ) wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:16:59 +0100,
> nos...@lovegoddess.free-online.co.uk (Suzi) wrote:
>
> >In article <37186a0...@news.cwcom.net>, co. & Ponder Stibbons
> >(elaine...@takethisout.cwcom.net) wibbled...
> >
> >> Yeah! Me! I've got the first Bunty and the first Judy comics (plus a
> >> few hundred following editions) in my loft! [Snip]
>
> Oh but in *those* days Bunty and Judy weren't "girlie" comics! They
> only got like that much later. [1] Yes, they were comics *for girls*
> admittedly, but they were in no way "girlie" in the modern sense.
> I wouldn't have been seen dead reading a "girlie" comic - even in
> those days! What do you take me for? ;-) [2]
>
> [1] Don't forget, IIRC I must be talking about 40+ years ago! <shock!>
> [2] I also got Dandy, Beano and Eagle - good old Dan Dare!
>
> --
> Elaine, afphianced to Stephen, John, Matt and AfPhantom,
> and eternally, undyingly afpbeloved of Karl
>
> The Things are also People
>
Sigh! Too long ago to be fans of such gems as "Trixies Treasure Chest", "The
Bionic Budgie" and "Damien Darke". . . . . . oh well. . . I *might* find some
fans, one day. . . . <G>
Kathy
in...@fdhoekstra.nl
> | Hrm - you could have a room full of mess, but without order,
> | as long as you accept that there are different types of mess.
> | If you feel that all mess is a mere instantiation of the
> | Platonic ideal of Mess, I can only say that you're a sad
> | individual, a teenager, or both :)
>
> send you a photo.
No, if you want to know about platonic ideals of mess, take
a good look at Escher's "Order and Chaos".
Richard
Sami Mikhail
>>From my (limited) experience it seems that AFP is populated by a wide
>>range of people, with a lot of interests and knowledge on a wide variety
>>of subjects. Are there any budding writers (or even successful ones!)
>>out there?
>
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