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GaryN
Mar 30, 2012, 4:47:59 AM3/30/12
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I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
first.
Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
do.
Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
do it differently?
gary
--
"Your Reputation is what people know about you.
Your Honour is what you know about yourself"
Lois McMaster Bujold.
mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
first.
Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
do.
Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
do it differently?
gary
--
"Your Reputation is what people know about you.
Your Honour is what you know about yourself"
Lois McMaster Bujold.
Larry Moore
Mar 30, 2012, 8:49:56 AM3/30/12
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On 2012-03-30, GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
>
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
>
> gary
>
I have a pre-bed path I walk through the house checking. Can't get to
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
>
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
>
> gary
>
sleep if I don't. Does that count?
--
For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to every
one that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not.
Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still.
John Maynard Keynes
GaryN
Mar 30, 2012, 10:15:01 AM3/30/12
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Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pZKdnTa1_oBpNujS...@wightman.ca:
> On 2012-03-30, GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day.
>> They mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator
>> couldn't remember if he had put his left sock on first so had to go
>> back and dress again.
>>
>> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
>> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
>> first.
>>
>> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I
>> just do.
>>
>> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right
>> if you do it differently?
>>
>> gary
>>
>
> I have a pre-bed path I walk through the house checking. Can't get to
> sleep if I don't. Does that count?
>
Not entirely sure what counts and what doesn't. Just unconscious
rituals or habits that, if you miss them, leave you feeling just not
quite right if you don't do it.
It took someone else's habit to point up mine.
Not sure how to explain it better than that.
news:pZKdnTa1_oBpNujS...@wightman.ca:
> On 2012-03-30, GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day.
>> They mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator
>> couldn't remember if he had put his left sock on first so had to go
>> back and dress again.
>>
>> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
>> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
>> first.
>>
>> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I
>> just do.
>>
>> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right
>> if you do it differently?
>>
>> gary
>>
>
> I have a pre-bed path I walk through the house checking. Can't get to
> sleep if I don't. Does that count?
>
rituals or habits that, if you miss them, leave you feeling just not
quite right if you don't do it.
It took someone else's habit to point up mine.
Not sure how to explain it better than that.
daniel goldsmith
Mar 30, 2012, 11:59:51 AM3/30/12
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On 2012-03-30, GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
> Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:pZKdnTa1_oBpNujS...@wightman.ca:
>
>> On 2012-03-30, GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>>> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day.
>>> They mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator
>>> couldn't remember if he had put his left sock on first so had to go
>>> back and dress again.
>>>
>>> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
>>> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
>>> first.
>>>
>>> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I
>>> just do.
>>>
>>> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right
>>> if you do it differently?
>>>
>>> gary
>>>
>>
>> I have a pre-bed path I walk through the house checking. Can't get to
>> sleep if I don't. Does that count?
Gods, I have one of those as well, also involves checking various
> Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:pZKdnTa1_oBpNujS...@wightman.ca:
>
>> On 2012-03-30, GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>>> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day.
>>> They mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator
>>> couldn't remember if he had put his left sock on first so had to go
>>> back and dress again.
>>>
>>> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
>>> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
>>> first.
>>>
>>> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I
>>> just do.
>>>
>>> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right
>>> if you do it differently?
>>>
>>> gary
>>>
>>
>> I have a pre-bed path I walk through the house checking. Can't get to
>> sleep if I don't. Does that count?
handles a set number of times in each direction. And of course I
have a set order for those handles.
I don't have an order for socks, but I always cross-stitch the
shoes with the socks, if you catch my drift (If LR, then RL).
When I put on my wedding band, I always pass it over the first
two fingers on the hand before sliding it on.
Of course, I do have CDO[1], so I guess these aren't really small
annoyances, rather symptoms of a debilitating condition.
[1] CDO: Its the same as OCD, except all the letters are in correct
alphabetical order AS THEY SHOULD BE.
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Alec Cawley
Mar 30, 2012, 12:51:35 PM3/30/12
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GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
>
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
If served a meal consisting of main and accompaniments, such as meat and
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
>
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
two veg, I always eat a bit of the accompaniments before the main. I can do
it the other way, but it is forcing myself.
Nigel Stapley
Mar 30, 2012, 3:08:35 PM3/30/12
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GaryN wrote:
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
>
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
>
I don't know where 'habit' lapses over into 'OCD' with a side-order of
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
>
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
>
'folie du doute' in my case.
When I was about eight or nine years old, I developed one whereby if I -
say - trod on a crack in the pavement, I had to then do it a further
eight times (because I'd read from some mass-produced astrological
quackery that nine was my lucky number). That took a few years to shed.
I go through a 'ritual' every morning when I go out to work: I lock the
front door, walk down the path and through the gate (the bus stops right
outside); then, after about twenty seconds (so long as the bus isn't
actually coming along the road towards me), go back in through the gate,
up the path and check that I *have* locked the front door.
Similarly, I habitually check my pockets and person before a) leaving
the house, b) getting on the bus, and c) getting *off* the bus. This is
to reassure myself that I have a) my cigarettes and lighter, b) my
insulin pen, c) my wallet, d) my dog-tag and e) my building pass and badge.
I have a 'thing' about opening packets of crisps at the bottom (1) - I
feel existentially uneasy if I realise that I've done it.
I'm also a punctuation nazi; apostrophes a speciality.
(1) Not in such a way that all the crisps drop out onto the floor,
obviously.
--
Regards
Nigel Stapley
www.thejudge.me.uk
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Jonathan Ellis
Mar 30, 2012, 5:10:29 PM3/30/12
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"Nigel Stapley" <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
news:AJidnVD8lbwAmevS...@brightview.co.uk...
> When I was about eight or nine years old, I developed one whereby if I -
> say - trod on a crack in the pavement, I had to then do it a further eight
> times (because I'd read from some mass-produced astrological quackery that
> nine was my lucky number). That took a few years to shed.
Some kinds of bear are endangered, after all...
-- Jonathan.
GaryN
Mar 30, 2012, 6:01:17 PM3/30/12
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"Jonathan Ellis" <jle3...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:jl57go$hdd$1...@speranza.aioe.org:
Some ingrained habits are simply sensible. I always check that a weapon
is unloaded the moment it is handed to me[1], I always check the girth
on a horse is correctly tightened before mounting, I check a vehicle is
in neutral before turning the key.
All sensible things, it's the odd idiosyncracies that I wondered about.
Skinned the bark off my new walking stick/staff project yesterday - 6
foot of Silver Birch with a fork at just the right height for a shoulder
rest. I've nearly finished John's walking stick (and if I say so myself
it's a lovely job - tempted to send him mine and keep this one!) and
needed something to keep me occupied.
I enjoy making functional things out of supposed junk. Maybe that's my
idiosyncracy.
gary
[1] Admittedly I immediately load it but it's *ME* loading it, therefore
my responsibility.
news:jl57go$hdd$1...@speranza.aioe.org:
is unloaded the moment it is handed to me[1], I always check the girth
on a horse is correctly tightened before mounting, I check a vehicle is
in neutral before turning the key.
All sensible things, it's the odd idiosyncracies that I wondered about.
Skinned the bark off my new walking stick/staff project yesterday - 6
foot of Silver Birch with a fork at just the right height for a shoulder
rest. I've nearly finished John's walking stick (and if I say so myself
it's a lovely job - tempted to send him mine and keep this one!) and
needed something to keep me occupied.
I enjoy making functional things out of supposed junk. Maybe that's my
idiosyncracy.
gary
[1] Admittedly I immediately load it but it's *ME* loading it, therefore
my responsibility.
John S. Wilkins
Mar 30, 2012, 9:24:16 PM3/30/12
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GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2012/03/30
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
>
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
>
> gary
--
John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
>
> gary
--
http://evolvingthoughts.net
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre
John S. Wilkins
Mar 30, 2012, 9:24:18 PM3/30/12
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GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
> "Jonathan Ellis" <jle3...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:jl57go$hdd$1...@speranza.aioe.org:
>
> >
> > "Nigel Stapley" <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> > news:AJidnVD8lbwAmevS...@brightview.co.uk...
> >
> >> When I was about eight or nine years old, I developed one whereby if
> >> I - say - trod on a crack in the pavement, I had to then do it a
> >> further eight times (because I'd read from some mass-produced
> >> astrological quackery that nine was my lucky number). That took a few
> >> years to shed.
> >
> > I still try to avoid treading on the cracks.
> >
> > Some kinds of bear are endangered, after all...
> >
> > -- Jonathan.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Some ingrained habits are simply sensible. I always check that a weapon
> is unloaded the moment it is handed to me[1], I always check the girth
> on a horse is correctly tightened before mounting, I check a vehicle is
> in neutral before turning the key.
>
> All sensible things, it's the odd idiosyncracies that I wondered about.
>
> Skinned the bark off my new walking stick/staff project yesterday - 6
> foot of Silver Birch with a fork at just the right height for a shoulder
> rest. I've nearly finished John's walking stick (and if I say so myself
> it's a lovely job - tempted to send him mine and keep this one!) and
> needed something to keep me occupied.
Hey! I get the cool one! :-)
> "Jonathan Ellis" <jle3...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:jl57go$hdd$1...@speranza.aioe.org:
>
> >
> > "Nigel Stapley" <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> > news:AJidnVD8lbwAmevS...@brightview.co.uk...
> >
> >> When I was about eight or nine years old, I developed one whereby if
> >> I - say - trod on a crack in the pavement, I had to then do it a
> >> further eight times (because I'd read from some mass-produced
> >> astrological quackery that nine was my lucky number). That took a few
> >> years to shed.
> >
> > I still try to avoid treading on the cracks.
> >
> > Some kinds of bear are endangered, after all...
> >
> > -- Jonathan.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Some ingrained habits are simply sensible. I always check that a weapon
> is unloaded the moment it is handed to me[1], I always check the girth
> on a horse is correctly tightened before mounting, I check a vehicle is
> in neutral before turning the key.
>
> All sensible things, it's the odd idiosyncracies that I wondered about.
>
> Skinned the bark off my new walking stick/staff project yesterday - 6
> foot of Silver Birch with a fork at just the right height for a shoulder
> rest. I've nearly finished John's walking stick (and if I say so myself
> it's a lovely job - tempted to send him mine and keep this one!) and
> needed something to keep me occupied.
>
> I enjoy making functional things out of supposed junk. Maybe that's my
> idiosyncracy.
>
> gary
>
> [1] Admittedly I immediately load it but it's *ME* loading it, therefore
> my responsibility.
--
> I enjoy making functional things out of supposed junk. Maybe that's my
> idiosyncracy.
>
> gary
>
> [1] Admittedly I immediately load it but it's *ME* loading it, therefore
> my responsibility.
--
Robert Carnegie
Mar 30, 2012, 10:47:20 PM3/30/12
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On Friday, March 30, 2012 9:47:59 AM UTC+1, GaryN wrote:
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
>
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
These days, I am fussy about things like computer
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
>
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
backups. Of course, if you don't do something like
that just right, then it may be useless. So I
compare backup to original in a certain way...
I'm pretty bad for being not sure if I locked
the door, going out, and I used to be for putting
off the gas fire, too - now I have central heating -
as well as not actually clocking in when I get to
work, vs. logging in to my workstation. I improved
on clocking in by taking a phone photo of the
machine each time, if only to keep track of when I
have missed: it's another one to not remember, and
we only found out by accident how to make the stupid
expensive machine tell us, the workforce. You press
the # key, the machine shows a message "Enquiry",
and then you present your whatsit and it tells you
whether you're in or out.
In principle, the phone method will also do for
the gas fire and for locking the door, if checking
currency of the photos is more convenient than
going back to see, but mine's actually a Samsung
tablet computer and usually packed in my bag.
I wore it on a cord round my neck for a week or
two, but noticed that people got pretty nervous
about someone pointing a digital camera at them
the whole time they were talking to him...
Larry Moore
Mar 31, 2012, 6:57:46 AM3/31/12
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On 2012-03-30, daniel goldsmith <dg...@ascraeus.bongley.net.invalid> wrote:
> [1] CDO: Its the same as OCD, except all the letters are in correct
> alphabetical order AS THEY SHOULD BE.
>
<grin> May I steal that for my .sig.dat file?
> [1] CDO: Its the same as OCD, except all the letters are in correct
> alphabetical order AS THEY SHOULD BE.
>
Sabremeister Brian
Mar 31, 2012, 9:03:35 AM3/31/12
to
In a speech called
AJidnVD8lbwAmevS...@brightview.co.uk,
pavement) with one foot, I try and tread on something similar with
the other one.
I also have a tendency to put my left sock/glove/shoe on before
the right one.
--
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Use brian at sabremeister dot me dot uk to reply
"'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have lost at
all."
- Samuel Butler
AJidnVD8lbwAmevS...@brightview.co.uk,
Nigel Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> said:
> GaryN wrote:
>> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other
>> day. They mentioned that one crew was delayed because the
>> navigator couldn't remember if he had put his left sock on
>> first so had to go back and dress again. Whilst I'm not quite
>> that obsessive (although his crew got
>> back so presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put
>> my right boot on first.
>>
>> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of
>> 'handedness' I just do.
>>
>> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel
>> right if you do it differently?
>>
>
> I don't know where 'habit' lapses over into 'OCD' with a
> side-order of 'folie du doute' in my case.
>
> When I was about eight or nine years old, I developed one
> whereby if I - say - trod on a crack in the pavement, I had to
> then do it a further eight times (because I'd read from some
> mass-produced
> astrological quackery that nine was my lucky number). That took
> a few years to shed.
If I tread on a crack (or something else non-standard in the
> GaryN wrote:
>> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other
>> day. They mentioned that one crew was delayed because the
>> navigator couldn't remember if he had put his left sock on
>> first so had to go back and dress again. Whilst I'm not quite
>> that obsessive (although his crew got
>> back so presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put
>> my right boot on first.
>>
>> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of
>> 'handedness' I just do.
>>
>> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel
>> right if you do it differently?
>>
>
> I don't know where 'habit' lapses over into 'OCD' with a
> side-order of 'folie du doute' in my case.
>
> When I was about eight or nine years old, I developed one
> whereby if I - say - trod on a crack in the pavement, I had to
> then do it a further eight times (because I'd read from some
> mass-produced
> astrological quackery that nine was my lucky number). That took
> a few years to shed.
pavement) with one foot, I try and tread on something similar with
the other one.
I also have a tendency to put my left sock/glove/shoe on before
the right one.
--
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Use brian at sabremeister dot me dot uk to reply
"'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have lost at
all."
- Samuel Butler
Reader in Invisible Writings
Mar 31, 2012, 12:17:14 PM3/31/12
to
On 30/03/2012 09:47, GaryN wrote:
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
>
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
>
> gary
>
I only try to cultivate habits that benefit me, but there again letting
> I was watching a documentary about the Dam Busters the other day. They
> mentioned that one crew was delayed because the navigator couldn't remember
> if he had put his left sock on first so had to go back and dress again.
>
> Whilst I'm not quite that obsessive (although his crew got back so
> presumably it worked) I realised that I *always* put my right boot on
> first.
>
> Don't know why, as I'm ambidextrous it's not a case of 'handedness' I just
> do.
>
> Anyone else have one of those odd habits where you don't feel right if you
> do it differently?
>
> gary
>
the "Neanderthal Brain"* do things like lock the car or the house can
leave the gang of two totally uncertain about it. You can get obsessive
about checking and running back - or train N brain only to put the keys
in the pocket after you have locked the car... Thus keys in pocket = car
locked. I have not yet got there, but progress is being made.
*back to my three brains theory and apologies to Neanderthal man who was
probably all but our equal but I can barely spell Neanderthal let alone
Australopithecus! The N brain learns things by rote and can do most of
the stuff to keep us going, including driving a car once the gang of two
have been taught how and passed it on. What the N brain is not so good
at is making complex decisions, which is where the gang of two come in
when asked** to make a quick choice of how to avoid the crash that's
just happened up ahead, or whether to stop at a zebra crossing. How
else do you explain the days you get to work*** without remembering
going around that tricky roundabout?
Now have I mentioned the four hearts ;-)
**they are usually arguing about something, listening to the radio - and
arguing with that - or thinking about anything but driving the car or
where they are going.
***even when you were meant to be going into town, but not work!
--
Reader in Invisible Writings
Something to Ponder on!
Chris Zakes
Apr 1, 2012, 1:43:22 PM4/1/12
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 05:57:46 -0500, an orbital mind-control laser
caused Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> to write:
>On 2012-03-30, daniel goldsmith <dg...@ascraeus.bongley.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> [1] CDO: Its the same as OCD, except all the letters are in correct
>> alphabetical order AS THEY SHOULD BE.
>>
>
> <grin> May I steal that for my .sig.dat file?
You could always buy the shirt:
caused Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> to write:
>On 2012-03-30, daniel goldsmith <dg...@ascraeus.bongley.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> [1] CDO: Its the same as OCD, except all the letters are in correct
>> alphabetical order AS THEY SHOULD BE.
>>
>
> <grin> May I steal that for my .sig.dat file?
http://www.pegasuspublishing.com/OCD-CDO-Shirt-p-30301.html
-Chris Zakes
Texas
--
The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds the most
discoveries, is not "Eureka!" but "That's funny..."
-Issac Asimov
daniel goldsmith
Apr 1, 2012, 3:00:44 PM4/1/12
to
On 2012-03-31, Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2012-03-30, daniel goldsmith <dg...@ascraeus.bongley.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> [1] CDO: Its the same as OCD, except all the letters are in correct
>> alphabetical order AS THEY SHOULD BE.
>>
>
> <grin> May I steal that for my .sig.dat file?
Not mine to give, sadly.
> On 2012-03-30, daniel goldsmith <dg...@ascraeus.bongley.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> [1] CDO: Its the same as OCD, except all the letters are in correct
>> alphabetical order AS THEY SHOULD BE.
>>
>
> <grin> May I steal that for my .sig.dat file?
It were one of yer wossnames, memes, about three years ago.
Not as all pervasive as your All Your Base or anything, but
certainly up there with the ones I see.
:)
SteveD
Apr 1, 2012, 11:30:39 PM4/1/12
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:17:14 +0100, Reader in Invisible Writings
<markfo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>What the N brain is not so good
>at is making complex decisions, which is where the gang of two come in
>when asked** to make a quick choice
It can be annoying when the N brain has a difficult time dragging the gang
<markfo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>What the N brain is not so good
>at is making complex decisions, which is where the gang of two come in
>when asked** to make a quick choice
of two out of their self-absorbed contemplation of other things, too. It
wouldn't be the first time I've had to invoke a deliberate adrenaline
spike in order to get them to pay attention to the world around them.
-SteveD
GaryN
Apr 2, 2012, 8:54:15 AM4/2/12
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SteveD <use...@vo.id.au> wrote in
news:c47in71bb2uqmjadg...@4ax.com:
I have something slightly different in that my reflexes are faster than
my thinking. If something falls I've caught it before my brain catches
up with recognising that it's falling. Dunno why that happens but it
does.
The daughter of a friend has the opposite problem. She has Asbergers
Syndrome and finds it difficult to interact socially. She's not stupid
or anything, just her mouth can't keep up with her brain so her
conversation is a bit stilted. Nice lass and OK as long as she has a
routine, but she does have a tendency to drift off to Never Never land
and her only friends are people who understand what's happening.
Probably impossible to ever work out what's going on in her head.
news:c47in71bb2uqmjadg...@4ax.com:
my thinking. If something falls I've caught it before my brain catches
up with recognising that it's falling. Dunno why that happens but it
does.
The daughter of a friend has the opposite problem. She has Asbergers
Syndrome and finds it difficult to interact socially. She's not stupid
or anything, just her mouth can't keep up with her brain so her
conversation is a bit stilted. Nice lass and OK as long as she has a
routine, but she does have a tendency to drift off to Never Never land
and her only friends are people who understand what's happening.
Probably impossible to ever work out what's going on in her head.
John S. Wilkins
Apr 2, 2012, 11:43:15 AM4/2/12
to
It's because he's had to spend his entire life trying to work out these
weird apes he got raised by and amongst.
I am nothing like him, no not at all surely not, okay?
Reader in Invisible Writings
Apr 2, 2012, 3:23:50 PM4/2/12
to
On 02/04/2012 13:54, GaryN wrote:
> SteveD<use...@vo.id.au> wrote in
> news:c47in71bb2uqmjadg...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:17:14 +0100, Reader in Invisible Writings
>> <markfo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What the N brain is not so good
>>> at is making complex decisions, which is where the gang of two come in
>>> when asked** to make a quick choice
>>
>> It can be annoying when the N brain has a difficult time dragging the
>> gang of two out of their self-absorbed contemplation of other things,
>> too. It wouldn't be the first time I've had to invoke a deliberate
>> adrenaline spike in order to get them to pay attention to the world
>> around them.
>>
>>
>> -SteveD
>>
>
> I have something slightly different in that my reflexes are faster than
> my thinking. If something falls I've caught it before my brain catches
> up with recognising that it's falling. Dunno why that happens but it
> does.
When something is falling and needs catching - there is no decision to
> SteveD<use...@vo.id.au> wrote in
> news:c47in71bb2uqmjadg...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:17:14 +0100, Reader in Invisible Writings
>> <markfo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What the N brain is not so good
>>> at is making complex decisions, which is where the gang of two come in
>>> when asked** to make a quick choice
>>
>> It can be annoying when the N brain has a difficult time dragging the
>> gang of two out of their self-absorbed contemplation of other things,
>> too. It wouldn't be the first time I've had to invoke a deliberate
>> adrenaline spike in order to get them to pay attention to the world
>> around them.
>>
>>
>> -SteveD
>>
>
> I have something slightly different in that my reflexes are faster than
> my thinking. If something falls I've caught it before my brain catches
> up with recognising that it's falling. Dunno why that happens but it
> does.
be made - it's simple and N brain does it fast*... even if it is very
hot - or sharp - or heavy.. and even if the gang of two know that fact.
Fast, yes... but not necessarily smart.
*the gang of two cannot do anything fast it takes then at least 1/3 of a
second and if you relied on them you would never blink in time to
protect your eyes from flying grit etc.
>
<SNIP>
> Probably impossible to ever work out what's going on in her head.
>
> gary
>
--
>
> gary
>
--
GaryN
Apr 2, 2012, 4:20:51 PM4/2/12
to
Reader in Invisible Writings <markfo...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:jlcubs$28no$1...@mud.stack.nl:
> On 02/04/2012 13:54, GaryN wrote:
>> SteveD<use...@vo.id.au> wrote in
>> news:c47in71bb2uqmjadg...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:17:14 +0100, Reader in Invisible Writings
>>> <markfo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What the N brain is not so good
>>>> at is making complex decisions, which is where the gang of two come
>>>> in when asked** to make a quick choice
>>>
>>> It can be annoying when the N brain has a difficult time dragging
>>> the gang of two out of their self-absorbed contemplation of other
>>> things, too. It wouldn't be the first time I've had to invoke a
>>> deliberate adrenaline spike in order to get them to pay attention to
>>> the world around them.
>>>
>>>
>>> -SteveD
>>>
>>
>> I have something slightly different in that my reflexes are faster
>> than my thinking. If something falls I've caught it before my brain
>> catches up with recognising that it's falling. Dunno why that
>> happens but it does.
>
> When something is falling and needs catching - there is no decision to
> be made - it's simple and N brain does it fast*... even if it is very
> hot - or sharp - or heavy.. and even if the gang of two know that
> fact. Fast, yes... but not necessarily smart.
Not entirely the case for me. If something drops that could injure I'll
catch it by the safe bit rather than the hot or sharp bit, even if it's
only in peripheral vision. I can also knock over an open container and
catch it before it spills. Even if I didn't know it was there.
If I can't then something overrides the reflex and "Get out of the damn
way" takes over. I've caught a running chainsaw dropped from 30 feet up
before now (don't want to do that again) by the handle. The only
warning was the shout of "LOOK OUT" from above me. Which is not a lot
of warning at 32f/s/s gravitational acceleration - shouldn't be possible
but... If I ever find the stupid bastard that put a spike in that tree
he will have a very bad day, or possibly month.
I genuinely do not know how or why it works like that, it just does.
All of my immediate family have excellent, fast, body/eye coordination,
we're all good at sports, shooting, driving, flying (gliders and light
planes) and riding assorted animals. We all have 20/20 vision except my
75 year old mother (for obvious reasons) and very sensitive hearing.
We're also good with animals but have to consciously slow down to avoid
spooking them with fast movements - except The Suzicat who could always
move faster than any of us, possibly faster than a speeding bullet..
Just the luck of the draw I suppose but we well know the phrase
"Patience is a virtue".
> *the gang of two cannot do anything fast it takes then at least 1/3 of
> a second and if you relied on them you would never blink in time to
> protect your eyes from flying grit etc.
>>
> <SNIP>
>> Probably impossible to ever work out what's going on in her head.
>>
>> gary
>>
>
>
--
news:jlcubs$28no$1...@mud.stack.nl:
> On 02/04/2012 13:54, GaryN wrote:
>> SteveD<use...@vo.id.au> wrote in
>> news:c47in71bb2uqmjadg...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:17:14 +0100, Reader in Invisible Writings
>>> <markfo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What the N brain is not so good
>>>> at is making complex decisions, which is where the gang of two come
>>>> in when asked** to make a quick choice
>>>
>>> It can be annoying when the N brain has a difficult time dragging
>>> the gang of two out of their self-absorbed contemplation of other
>>> things, too. It wouldn't be the first time I've had to invoke a
>>> deliberate adrenaline spike in order to get them to pay attention to
>>> the world around them.
>>>
>>>
>>> -SteveD
>>>
>>
>> I have something slightly different in that my reflexes are faster
>> than my thinking. If something falls I've caught it before my brain
>> catches up with recognising that it's falling. Dunno why that
>> happens but it does.
>
> When something is falling and needs catching - there is no decision to
> be made - it's simple and N brain does it fast*... even if it is very
> hot - or sharp - or heavy.. and even if the gang of two know that
> fact. Fast, yes... but not necessarily smart.
catch it by the safe bit rather than the hot or sharp bit, even if it's
only in peripheral vision. I can also knock over an open container and
catch it before it spills. Even if I didn't know it was there.
If I can't then something overrides the reflex and "Get out of the damn
way" takes over. I've caught a running chainsaw dropped from 30 feet up
before now (don't want to do that again) by the handle. The only
warning was the shout of "LOOK OUT" from above me. Which is not a lot
of warning at 32f/s/s gravitational acceleration - shouldn't be possible
but... If I ever find the stupid bastard that put a spike in that tree
he will have a very bad day, or possibly month.
I genuinely do not know how or why it works like that, it just does.
All of my immediate family have excellent, fast, body/eye coordination,
we're all good at sports, shooting, driving, flying (gliders and light
planes) and riding assorted animals. We all have 20/20 vision except my
75 year old mother (for obvious reasons) and very sensitive hearing.
We're also good with animals but have to consciously slow down to avoid
spooking them with fast movements - except The Suzicat who could always
move faster than any of us, possibly faster than a speeding bullet..
Just the luck of the draw I suppose but we well know the phrase
"Patience is a virtue".
> *the gang of two cannot do anything fast it takes then at least 1/3 of
> a second and if you relied on them you would never blink in time to
> protect your eyes from flying grit etc.
>>
> <SNIP>
>> Probably impossible to ever work out what's going on in her head.
>>
>> gary
>>
>
>
--
GaryN
Apr 2, 2012, 4:50:07 PM4/2/12
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jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S. Wilkins) wrote in
news:1khycef.1yaxi851paoz5uN%jo...@wilkins.id.au:
I freely admit to being a weird ape and proud of it. Plus I bought "The
Stainless Steel Rat Returns" and "The Definitive SF Works of Chris
Foss" on my way to the doctors today[1]. Nearly £40 but worth every
penny![2]
I get on with other weird apes of my own choosing which covers a range
of oddballs, nutters and other strange creatures of the last days. Much
more fun than "Normal" people.
Although Harding saying "By the way I've got a heart condition and that
was a palpitation, you have to take control" whilst 5k feet over Banbury
in a glider was perhaps a little too interesting! I got us down in one
piece though. I think his problem is that he's not allowed alcohol now
because it's bad for him (says who?). My opinion - his condition has
got worse without an infusion of Old Peculiar now and then.
gary
[1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
[2] If you bought any SF in the 70's or 80's it's probably his art on
the cover.
news:1khycef.1yaxi851paoz5uN%jo...@wilkins.id.au:
Stainless Steel Rat Returns" and "The Definitive SF Works of Chris
Foss" on my way to the doctors today[1]. Nearly £40 but worth every
penny![2]
I get on with other weird apes of my own choosing which covers a range
of oddballs, nutters and other strange creatures of the last days. Much
more fun than "Normal" people.
Although Harding saying "By the way I've got a heart condition and that
was a palpitation, you have to take control" whilst 5k feet over Banbury
in a glider was perhaps a little too interesting! I got us down in one
piece though. I think his problem is that he's not allowed alcohol now
because it's bad for him (says who?). My opinion - his condition has
got worse without an infusion of Old Peculiar now and then.
gary
[1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
[2] If you bought any SF in the 70's or 80's it's probably his art on
the cover.
Lesley Weston
Apr 3, 2012, 10:18:16 AM4/3/12
to
On 04-02-12 1:50 PM, GaryN wrote:
<snip>
> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
My husband has that too, but he blames his guitar, not his knife.
Lesley.
--
This address is real, but to reach me use leswes att shaw dott ca
<snip>
> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
Lesley.
--
This address is real, but to reach me use leswes att shaw dott ca
GaryN
Apr 3, 2012, 12:40:19 PM4/3/12
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Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:jlf0rb$910
$1...@mud.stack.nl:
> On 04-02-12 1:50 PM, GaryN wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
>> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
>> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
>
> My husband has that too, but he blames his guitar, not his knife.
>
> Lesley.
>
I use the right hand for grip and power, left hand for control and
direction. Unfortunately I broke the tendon anchors on my left thumb base
some years ago and over using it inflames the sheathes with an arthritic
result.
gary
$1...@mud.stack.nl:
> On 04-02-12 1:50 PM, GaryN wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
>> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
>> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
>
> My husband has that too, but he blames his guitar, not his knife.
>
> Lesley.
>
direction. Unfortunately I broke the tendon anchors on my left thumb base
some years ago and over using it inflames the sheathes with an arthritic
result.
gary
Nigel Stapley
Apr 3, 2012, 12:51:05 PM4/3/12
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GaryN wrote:
> Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:jlf0rb$910
> $1...@mud.stack.nl:
>
>> On 04-02-12 1:50 PM, GaryN wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
>>> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
>>> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
>> My husband has that too, but he blames his guitar, not his knife.
>>
>> Lesley.
>>
>
> I use the right hand for grip and power, left hand for control and
> direction.
Are we still talking about guitars here?
> Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:jlf0rb$910
> $1...@mud.stack.nl:
>
>> On 04-02-12 1:50 PM, GaryN wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
>>> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
>>> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
>> My husband has that too, but he blames his guitar, not his knife.
>>
>> Lesley.
>>
>
> I use the right hand for grip and power, left hand for control and
> direction.
John S. Wilkins
Apr 3, 2012, 5:09:51 PM4/3/12
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>
> I get on with other weird apes of my own choosing which covers a range
> of oddballs, nutters and other strange creatures of the last days. Much
> more fun than "Normal" people.
You, like me, seem to live in a Hieronymus Bosch painting.
> I get on with other weird apes of my own choosing which covers a range
> of oddballs, nutters and other strange creatures of the last days. Much
> more fun than "Normal" people.
>
> Although Harding saying "By the way I've got a heart condition and that
> was a palpitation, you have to take control" whilst 5k feet over Banbury
> in a glider was perhaps a little too interesting! I got us down in one
> piece though. I think his problem is that he's not allowed alcohol now
> because it's bad for him (says who?). My opinion - his condition has
> got worse without an infusion of Old Peculiar now and then.
Try to choose your glider pilots more carefully. The ones that took me
> Although Harding saying "By the way I've got a heart condition and that
> was a palpitation, you have to take control" whilst 5k feet over Banbury
> in a glider was perhaps a little too interesting! I got us down in one
> piece though. I think his problem is that he's not allowed alcohol now
> because it's bad for him (says who?). My opinion - his condition has
> got worse without an infusion of Old Peculiar now and then.
up tended to be older, but hale. The one time I got to pilot one
(Blanik) I avoided stalling but lost 5k feet before the pilot gently
took over...
>
> gary
>
> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
>
> [2] If you bought any SF in the 70's or 80's it's probably his art on
> the cover.
All my SF came via cheap US reprints or Amazing.
> gary
>
> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
>
> [2] If you bought any SF in the 70's or 80's it's probably his art on
> the cover.
GaryN
Apr 3, 2012, 7:32:51 PM4/3/12
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jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S. Wilkins) wrote in
news:1khyvf3.64wa3t6bps0qN%jo...@wilkins.id.au:
Proper tribute to someone who almost defined SF cover art in the
70s/80s.
>> I get on with other weird apes of my own choosing which covers a
>> range of oddballs, nutters and other strange creatures of the last
>> days. Much more fun than "Normal" people.
>
> You, like me, seem to live in a Hieronymus Bosch painting.
But I like my lunatic, eccentric friends and family. I'm always happy
when they fail to crash racing yachts into the White Cliffs of Dover
(sister) or don't fall off mountains (ex IT head of a major bank -
although she came close to being very ex) or get married in an
ostentatious country house with an antique steam train running across
the bottom of the grounds during the post-prandial piss up (ex-director
of a major internet travel company)
Then there's Paddy Pat and his Merry Men (Security Consultancy - I don't
ask and he don't tell), S who left me the keys to her house and cat on 2
days notice and buggered off to look at Orang Utans for a month, J who
probably wrote most of the apps if you have an I-phone (also tries not
to fall off mountains), H is a senior IT analyst at an Oxford
university research institute.
Most of the people I consider friends are not corporate 9-5 types. They
do it for money but it's not their life. I just find those jobsworths
tedious. I prefer the interestingly intelligent nutters.
<snip>
> Try to choose your glider pilots more carefully. The ones that took me
> up tended to be older, but hale. The one time I got to pilot one
> (Blanik) I avoided stalling but lost 5k feet before the pilot gently
> took over...
gliders because they're designed to function without an engine. I've
done 1 dead stick landing in a Robin and I *NEVER* want to do another.
We've both had to give up our flying and driving licences now. Him
because of the heart condition and me because of the late onset epilepsy
Doesn't stop us sailing or rock climbing because you don't need a
licence for those.
Have to find a new way of killing myself!
gary
John S. Wilkins
Apr 3, 2012, 8:25:43 PM4/3/12
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GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
...
...
> Have to find a new way of killing myself!
You only need the one.
Gary R. Schmidt
Apr 4, 2012, 8:53:36 AM4/4/12
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On 4/04/2012 7:09 AM, John S. Wilkins wrote:
[SNIP]
[SNIP]
at least, many/most of my PBs from then are Panther, and probably all of
them have a Foss cover if the cover is a spaceship.
Big, blocky, sharp edges and not streamlined, that's a Foss cover!
Have a wander around here <http://www.chrisfossart.com/> and see if it
tweaks any memories...
Cheers,
Gary B-)
--
When men talk to their friends, they insult each other.
They don't really mean it.
When women talk to their friends, they compliment each other.
They don't mean it either.
[SNIP]
> Harrison I grew up on. Foss I don't know.
Foss did the covers on all the Panther SF...
[SNIP]
> All my SF came via cheap US reprints or Amazing.
...That was most of what we got here in XXXX in PB back in the 1970's,
at least, many/most of my PBs from then are Panther, and probably all of
them have a Foss cover if the cover is a spaceship.
Big, blocky, sharp edges and not streamlined, that's a Foss cover!
Have a wander around here <http://www.chrisfossart.com/> and see if it
tweaks any memories...
Cheers,
Gary B-)
--
When men talk to their friends, they insult each other.
They don't really mean it.
When women talk to their friends, they compliment each other.
They don't mean it either.
John S. Wilkins
Apr 4, 2012, 9:03:58 AM4/4/12
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Gary R. Schmidt <grsc...@acm.org> wrote:
> On 4/04/2012 7:09 AM, John S. Wilkins wrote:
> [SNIP]
> > Harrison I grew up on. Foss I don't know.
> Foss did the covers on all the Panther SF...
>
> [SNIP]
> > All my SF came via cheap US reprints or Amazing.
> ...That was most of what we got here in XXXX in PB back in the 1970's,
> at least, many/most of my PBs from then are Panther, and probably all of
> them have a Foss cover if the cover is a spaceship.
>
> Big, blocky, sharp edges and not streamlined, that's a Foss cover!
>
> Have a wander around here <http://www.chrisfossart.com/> and see if it
> tweaks any memories...
>
Hells yes! I recall nearly all of those! I still have some of the books.
> On 4/04/2012 7:09 AM, John S. Wilkins wrote:
> [SNIP]
> > Harrison I grew up on. Foss I don't know.
> Foss did the covers on all the Panther SF...
>
> [SNIP]
> > All my SF came via cheap US reprints or Amazing.
> ...That was most of what we got here in XXXX in PB back in the 1970's,
> at least, many/most of my PBs from then are Panther, and probably all of
> them have a Foss cover if the cover is a spaceship.
>
> Big, blocky, sharp edges and not streamlined, that's a Foss cover!
>
> Have a wander around here <http://www.chrisfossart.com/> and see if it
> tweaks any memories...
>
Lesley Weston
Apr 4, 2012, 11:06:04 AM4/4/12
to
On 04-03-12 9:40 AM, GaryN wrote:
> Lesley Weston<brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:jlf0rb$910
> $1...@mud.stack.nl:
>
>> On 04-02-12 1:50 PM, GaryN wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
>>> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
>>> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
>>
>> My husband has that too, but he blames his guitar, not his knife.
>>
>> Lesley.
>>
>
> I use the right hand for grip and power, left hand for control and
> direction. Unfortunately I broke the tendon anchors on my left thumb base
> some years ago and over using it inflames the sheathes with an arthritic
> result.
There's an op for that, assuming that it's trigger thumb which is what
> Lesley Weston<brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:jlf0rb$910
> $1...@mud.stack.nl:
>
>> On 04-02-12 1:50 PM, GaryN wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
>>> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
>>> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
>>
>> My husband has that too, but he blames his guitar, not his knife.
>>
>> Lesley.
>>
>
> I use the right hand for grip and power, left hand for control and
> direction. Unfortunately I broke the tendon anchors on my left thumb base
> some years ago and over using it inflames the sheathes with an arthritic
> result.
it sounds like. I've had it done on both thumbs, one at a time: I'm
ambidextrous, so when one hand started hurting I switched to the other
until they were both hurting. It's a tiny procedure under a local; all
they do is snip the first transverse tendon so that the swollen
"vertical" tendon no longer gets trapped by it. A few days for the tiny
incision to heal and good as new! There isn't even a scar, since they go
in at the base of the thumb where the creases are.
Lesley Weston
Apr 4, 2012, 11:08:49 AM4/4/12
to
On 04-03-12 9:51 AM, Nigel Stapley wrote:
> GaryN wrote:
>> Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:jlf0rb$910
>> $1...@mud.stack.nl:
>>
>>> On 04-02-12 1:50 PM, GaryN wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
>>>> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
>>>> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
>>> My husband has that too, but he blames his guitar, not his knife.
>>>
>>> Lesley.
>>>
>>
>> I use the right hand for grip and power, left hand for control and
>> direction.
>
> Are we still talking about guitars here?
>
We could be - that's how they're played by everyone except Jimi Hendrix.
> GaryN wrote:
>> Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:jlf0rb$910
>> $1...@mud.stack.nl:
>>
>>> On 04-02-12 1:50 PM, GaryN wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> [1] She was amused when I took a knife from my belt pouch and
>>>> demonstrated how I thought I'd caused the arthritis in my left thumb.
>>>> If anything can faze this woman I haven't found it.
>>> My husband has that too, but he blames his guitar, not his knife.
>>>
>>> Lesley.
>>>
>>
>> I use the right hand for grip and power, left hand for control and
>> direction.
>
> Are we still talking about guitars here?
>
GaryN
Apr 4, 2012, 12:04:50 PM4/4/12
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Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:jlho0s$1s7k$1...@mud.stack.nl:
the bone tendon anchors whilst breaking my wrist (we don't do things my
halves in my family).
It joined the long accident-prone list of my injuries including the
"I've never seen anything like this before" Impact drove the shoulder
joint in so hard the shoulder blade split horizontally!
I started young though by falling over with a stick in my mouth when I
was 4. While the 7 stitches were being put in the back of my throat my
tonsils were removed, presumably to save time later.
I apparently have a talent for managing injuries usually only seen in
wartime!
John S. Wilkins
Apr 4, 2012, 5:52:25 PM4/4/12
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it. By the way, have you met James Nicoll?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Nicoll
http://dd-b.net/NicollEvents/
GaryN
Apr 5, 2012, 8:50:33 AM4/5/12
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jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S. Wilkins) wrote in
news:1ki2j26.1diqi6f1b6cfqkN%jo...@wilkins.id.au:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Nicoll
Interestingly there is an error in "The Purity Of The English Language".
You can indeed 'rifle' someones pockets, the incorrect word is 'riffle'.
ri搭le [rahy-fuhl] Show IPA
verb (used with object), -fled, -fling.
1.to ransack and rob (a place, receptacle, etc.).
2.to search and rob (a person).
3.to plunder or strip bare.
4.to steal or take away.
rif搭le [rif-uhl] Show IPA verb, -fled, -fling, noun
verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
1.To turn hastily; flutter and shift: to riffle a stack of letters; to
riffle through a book.
2. Cards . to shuffle by dividing the deck in two, raising the corners
slightly, and allowing them to fall alternately together.
3. To cause or become a riffle.
Source www.dictionary.com
I knew that English Language 'O' level would come in handy sometime!
English has never been pure and we nick bits from everyone.
John S. Wilkins
Apr 5, 2012, 10:00:50 AM4/5/12
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GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
> jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S. Wilkins) wrote in
> news:1ki2j26.1diqi6f1b6cfqkN%jo...@wilkins.id.au:
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Nicoll
>
> Interestingly there is an error in "The Purity Of The English Language".
> You can indeed 'rifle' someones pockets, the incorrect word is 'riffle'.
>
> ri搭le [rahy-fuhl] Show IPA
> verb (used with object), -fled, -fling.
>
> 1.to ransack and rob (a place, receptacle, etc.).
> 2.to search and rob (a person).
> 3.to plunder or strip bare.
> 4.to steal or take away.
>
> rif搭le [rif-uhl] Show IPA verb, -fled, -fling, noun
> verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
>
> 1.To turn hastily; flutter and shift: to riffle a stack of letters; to
> riffle through a book.
> 2. Cards . to shuffle by dividing the deck in two, raising the corners
> slightly, and allowing them to fall alternately together.
> 3. To cause or become a riffle.
>
> Source www.dictionary.com
>
> I knew that English Language 'O' level would come in handy sometime!
>
> English has never been pure and we nick bits from everyone.
>
I always thought he meant that other languages had index cards of
> jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S. Wilkins) wrote in
> news:1ki2j26.1diqi6f1b6cfqkN%jo...@wilkins.id.au:
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Nicoll
>
> Interestingly there is an error in "The Purity Of The English Language".
> You can indeed 'rifle' someones pockets, the incorrect word is 'riffle'.
>
> ri搭le [rahy-fuhl] Show IPA
> verb (used with object), -fled, -fling.
>
> 1.to ransack and rob (a place, receptacle, etc.).
> 2.to search and rob (a person).
> 3.to plunder or strip bare.
> 4.to steal or take away.
>
> rif搭le [rif-uhl] Show IPA verb, -fled, -fling, noun
> verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
>
> 1.To turn hastily; flutter and shift: to riffle a stack of letters; to
> riffle through a book.
> 2. Cards . to shuffle by dividing the deck in two, raising the corners
> slightly, and allowing them to fall alternately together.
> 3. To cause or become a riffle.
>
> Source www.dictionary.com
>
> I knew that English Language 'O' level would come in handy sometime!
>
> English has never been pure and we nick bits from everyone.
>
vocabulary in their pockets and English riffled them like a deck of
playing cards. Odd...
Lesley Weston
Apr 5, 2012, 12:10:30 PM4/5/12
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ppint. at pplay
Apr 24, 2012, 9:19:23 AM4/24/12
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- hi; in article, <grst49-...@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au>,
grsc...@acm.org "Gary R. Schmidt" reminisced fondly:
p/b art directors to request "foss cover art" from another
artist, especially ones new to the field who'd not yet de-
veloped their own signature styles and foibles.
the sf&f prozines of the time; a thing to be wondered at,
since he was allowed the lowest budget per issue, by a country
mile (by an outer arm parsec?).
methuen, hamlyn, pan, tandem, arrow or corgi p/b sf lines?
>and probably all of them have a Foss cover if the cover is a spaceship.
>Big, blocky, sharp edges and not streamlined, that's a Foss cover!
>Have a wander around here <http://www.chrisfossart.com/> and see if it
>tweaks any memories...
- and spot the multifarious domestic appliances transformed
into minutely-detailed intergalactic transports of delight!
- love, ppint.
[drop the "v", and change the "f" to a "g", to email or cc.]
--
"I was a philistine and enjoyed it anyway."
- helen highwater, 2/96 (2/ /96 in merkia)
grsc...@acm.org "Gary R. Schmidt" reminisced fondly:
> John S. Wilkins wrote:
>
>Foss did the covers on all the Panther SF...
- *g*; well, not quite _all_; but there was a tendency for
>
>Foss did the covers on all the Panther SF...
p/b art directors to request "foss cover art" from another
artist, especially ones new to the field who'd not yet de-
veloped their own signature styles and foibles.
>
>>All my SF came via cheap US reprints or Amazing.
- the ted white-edited amz had some of the best cover art of
>>All my SF came via cheap US reprints or Amazing.
the sf&f prozines of the time; a thing to be wondered at,
since he was allowed the lowest budget per issue, by a country
mile (by an outer arm parsec?).
>
>...That was most of what we got here in XXXX in PB back in the 1970's,
>at least, many/most of my PBs from then are Panther,
- did you not see, or not see much of, the sphere, n.e.l,
>...That was most of what we got here in XXXX in PB back in the 1970's,
>at least, many/most of my PBs from then are Panther,
methuen, hamlyn, pan, tandem, arrow or corgi p/b sf lines?
>and probably all of them have a Foss cover if the cover is a spaceship.
>Big, blocky, sharp edges and not streamlined, that's a Foss cover!
>Have a wander around here <http://www.chrisfossart.com/> and see if it
>tweaks any memories...
into minutely-detailed intergalactic transports of delight!
- love, ppint.
[drop the "v", and change the "f" to a "g", to email or cc.]
--
"I was a philistine and enjoyed it anyway."
- helen highwater, 2/96 (2/ /96 in merkia)
SteveD
Apr 28, 2012, 3:20:40 AM4/28/12
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 10:25:43 +1000, jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S. Wilkins)
wrote:
>GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
>...
>> Have to find a new way of killing myself!
>
>You only need the one.
This is Gary we're talking about. All the usual methods have apparently
failed so far. I'm beginning to suspect his character sheet was built on a
half-zombie template...
-SteveD
wrote:
>GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
>...
>> Have to find a new way of killing myself!
>
>You only need the one.
failed so far. I'm beginning to suspect his character sheet was built on a
half-zombie template...
-SteveD
GaryN
Apr 28, 2012, 10:26:03 AM4/28/12
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SteveD <use...@vo.id.au> wrote in
news:186np7l7atn63tsbg...@4ax.com:
I've only been shot the once (accidentally, I hasten to add) and that
was a .410 at long range. Barely got through the Barbour jacket I was
wearing, although it stung a bit! The guy who tried to stab me wasn't
to know that my bike leather has a kevlar spine protector equal to
military grade body armour. I explained to him, in no uncertain terms,
that I was annoyed about the rip in the leather!
I only *nearly* drowned pulling that woman out of the car in the canal
and the bike crash that smashed my leg[1] was mostly annoying because
the hospital wouldn't let me out for a smoke! Falling through the barn
roof was more frightening than painful.
Never managed to crash a glider and won't now my flying licence has been
withdrawn.
When I was younger I bounced better. I'd prefer not to try these things
now.
gary
[1]Admittedly hitting me with a car should have worked!
--
"When California slides into the ocean, like the mystics and statistics
say it will
I predict this motel will be standing
Until I pay my bill"
Warren Zevon.
news:186np7l7atn63tsbg...@4ax.com:
was a .410 at long range. Barely got through the Barbour jacket I was
wearing, although it stung a bit! The guy who tried to stab me wasn't
to know that my bike leather has a kevlar spine protector equal to
military grade body armour. I explained to him, in no uncertain terms,
that I was annoyed about the rip in the leather!
I only *nearly* drowned pulling that woman out of the car in the canal
and the bike crash that smashed my leg[1] was mostly annoying because
the hospital wouldn't let me out for a smoke! Falling through the barn
roof was more frightening than painful.
Never managed to crash a glider and won't now my flying licence has been
withdrawn.
When I was younger I bounced better. I'd prefer not to try these things
now.
gary
[1]Admittedly hitting me with a car should have worked!
--
"When California slides into the ocean, like the mystics and statistics
say it will
I predict this motel will be standing
Until I pay my bill"
Warren Zevon.
Gary R. Schmidt
Apr 30, 2012, 9:29:01 AM4/30/12
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On 24/04/2012 11:19 PM, ppint. at pplay wrote:
> - hi; in article,<grst49-...@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au>,
> grsc...@acm.org "Gary R. Schmidt" reminisced fondly:
[SNIP]
> - hi; in article,<grst49-...@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au>,
> grsc...@acm.org "Gary R. Schmidt" reminisced fondly:
>> ...That was most of what we got here in XXXX in PB back in the 1970's,
>> at least, many/most of my PBs from then are Panther,
>
> - did you not see, or not see much of, the sphere, n.e.l,
> methuen, hamlyn, pan, tandem, arrow or corgi p/b sf lines?
>
We saw all the above from Blighty, but most of what we got from there
>> at least, many/most of my PBs from then are Panther,
>
> - did you not see, or not see much of, the sphere, n.e.l,
> methuen, hamlyn, pan, tandem, arrow or corgi p/b sf lines?
>
was Panther. That changed towards the end of the 1970's as the
specialised SF bookshops took off, and so the market was filled less by
"what can we sling into the containers" and more by "oh, someone has
asked for these authors and titles! Who knew they could read in the
Antipodes?!?!
From Seppoland, of course, there were others, but even then a lot, if
not most, of the Seppoland authors output came via Blighty.
Now, of course, the MMPB stuff is printed in <wherever is cheapest this
week>, and distributed by <yeah, whatever>.
At least the small press, Wildside and so on, seem to be doing okay, and
printing in the US!! (Latest LWE (to me) "Tales of Ethshar" has:
Made in the USA
Lexington, KY
10 April 2012
strangely on the last page, not the frontpieces. Meh!)
Lawrence Watt-Evans
Apr 30, 2012, 2:41:20 PM4/30/12
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On 2012-04-30 09:29:01 -0400, Gary R. Schmidt said:
> Now, of course, the MMPB stuff is printed in <wherever is cheapest this
> week>, and distributed by <yeah, whatever>.
>
> At least the small press, Wildside and so on, seem to be doing okay,
> and printing in the US!! (Latest LWE (to me) "Tales of Ethshar" has:
> Made in the USA
> Lexington, KY
> 10 April 2012
> strangely on the last page, not the frontpieces. Meh!)
Huh. I hadn't noticed that; I used to live in Lexington, long ago.
> Now, of course, the MMPB stuff is printed in <wherever is cheapest this
> week>, and distributed by <yeah, whatever>.
>
> At least the small press, Wildside and so on, seem to be doing okay,
> and printing in the US!! (Latest LWE (to me) "Tales of Ethshar" has:
> Made in the USA
> Lexington, KY
> 10 April 2012
> strangely on the last page, not the frontpieces. Meh!)
Wildside is based in Rockville, Maryland, about fifteen miles from my
home, but they use printers all over the country -- whoever's cheapest.
Last time I noticed (several books back), they were getting books
printed in South Dakota.
With increased shipping costs being what they are, the only time it's
cheaper to print outside the US is when you're doing color interiors or
using special paper.
--
Now available on Amazon or B&N: One-Eyed Jack.
Greg Kraft could see ghosts. That didn't mean he could stop them...
ppint. at pplay
May 17, 2012, 8:42:01 AM5/17/12
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- hi; in article, <tlg279-...@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au>,
grsc...@acm.org "Gary R. Schmidt" elaborated:
http://www.ethshar.com/TheSorcerersWidow01.html - & ff. - ?
(with whose indica you should find little mysterious ;-) ([a]))
- love, ppint.
[drop the "v", and change the "f" to a "g", to email or cc.]
[a] - see http://www.ethshar.com/TheSorcerersWidow0.html
--
"...and then, because she's blonde, i thought, "we'll kill her.""
- lindsay davis, "book club"
on radio4, 16:20 bst 8/6/06 (6/8/06 for merkins)
grsc...@acm.org "Gary R. Schmidt" elaborated:
> ppint. at pplay wrote:
>> grsc...@acm.org "Gary R. Schmidt" reminisced fondly:
>[SNIP]
>>> ...That was most of what we got here in XXXX in PB back in the 1970's,
>>> at least, many/most of my PBs from then are Panther,
>> - did you not see, or not see much of, the sphere, n.e.l,
>> methuen, hamlyn, pan, tandem, arrow or corgi p/b sf lines?
>
>We saw all the above from Blighty, but most of what we got from there
>was Panther. That changed towards the end of the 1970's as the
>specialised SF bookshops took off, and so the market was filled less by
>"what can we sling into the containers" and more by "oh, someone has
>asked for these authors and titles! Who knew they could read in the
>Antipodes?!?!
>
>From Seppoland, of course, there were others, but even then a lot, if
>not most, of the Seppoland authors output came via Blighty.
>
>Now, of course, the MMPB stuff is printed in <wherever is cheapest this
>week>, and distributed by <yeah, whatever>.
- you see more of the merkin mmpbs than uk p/bs these days, then?
>> grsc...@acm.org "Gary R. Schmidt" reminisced fondly:
>[SNIP]
>>> ...That was most of what we got here in XXXX in PB back in the 1970's,
>>> at least, many/most of my PBs from then are Panther,
>> - did you not see, or not see much of, the sphere, n.e.l,
>> methuen, hamlyn, pan, tandem, arrow or corgi p/b sf lines?
>
>We saw all the above from Blighty, but most of what we got from there
>was Panther. That changed towards the end of the 1970's as the
>specialised SF bookshops took off, and so the market was filled less by
>"what can we sling into the containers" and more by "oh, someone has
>asked for these authors and titles! Who knew they could read in the
>Antipodes?!?!
>
>From Seppoland, of course, there were others, but even then a lot, if
>not most, of the Seppoland authors output came via Blighty.
>
>Now, of course, the MMPB stuff is printed in <wherever is cheapest this
>week>, and distributed by <yeah, whatever>.
>
>At least the small press, Wildside and so on, seem to be doing okay, and
>printing in the US!! (Latest LWE (to me) "Tales of Ethshar" has:
> Made in the USA
> Lexington, KY
> 10 April 2012
>strangely on the last page, not the frontpieces. Meh!)
- are you by any chance unaware of
>At least the small press, Wildside and so on, seem to be doing okay, and
>printing in the US!! (Latest LWE (to me) "Tales of Ethshar" has:
> Made in the USA
> Lexington, KY
> 10 April 2012
>strangely on the last page, not the frontpieces. Meh!)
http://www.ethshar.com/TheSorcerersWidow01.html - & ff. - ?
(with whose indica you should find little mysterious ;-) ([a]))
- love, ppint.
[drop the "v", and change the "f" to a "g", to email or cc.]
--
"...and then, because she's blonde, i thought, "we'll kill her.""
- lindsay davis, "book club"
on radio4, 16:20 bst 8/6/06 (6/8/06 for merkins)
Gary R. Schmidt
May 20, 2012, 9:58:57 AM5/20/12
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On 17/05/2012 10:42 PM, ppint. at pplay wrote:
[SNIP]
from the author, see later...
[SNIP]
ponied up the readies way back for "The Vondish Ambassador," and I have
been continuing to support them ever since. It's nice having a book you
can pull out and point to the dedication and say, "That means me!"
[SNIP]
> - you see more of the merkin mmpbs than uk p/bs these days, then?
Um, no/yes/maybe? I get most from Beookdepository or Amazon or directly
from the author, see later...
[SNIP]
> - are you by any chance unaware of
>
> http://www.ethshar.com/TheSorcerersWidow01.html -& ff. - ?
>
>
> (with whose indica you should find little mysterious ;-) ([a]))
Not at all unaware, LWE has been sending me missives about these since I
> (with whose indica you should find little mysterious ;-) ([a]))
ponied up the readies way back for "The Vondish Ambassador," and I have
been continuing to support them ever since. It's nice having a book you
can pull out and point to the dedication and say, "That means me!"
Walter Bushell
May 28, 2012, 8:23:42 AM5/28/12
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In article <XnsA026EA2F9595D...@216.196.109.145>,
GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Some ingrained habits are simply sensible. I always check that a weapon
> is unloaded the moment it is handed to me[1], I always check the girth
> on a horse is correctly tightened before mounting, I check a vehicle is
> in neutral before turning the key.
With some hobbies like scuba diving being obsessive compulsive could
be an advantage or if your a divemaster almost compulsory.
--
This space unintentionally left blank.
GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Some ingrained habits are simply sensible. I always check that a weapon
> is unloaded the moment it is handed to me[1], I always check the girth
> on a horse is correctly tightened before mounting, I check a vehicle is
> in neutral before turning the key.
With some hobbies like scuba diving being obsessive compulsive could
be an advantage or if your a divemaster almost compulsory.
--
This space unintentionally left blank.
Walter Bushell
May 28, 2012, 8:28:47 AM5/28/12
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In article <1khycef.1yaxi851paoz5uN%jo...@wilkins.id.au>,
> >
> My son has Asperger's. Very smart but definitely socially handicapped.
> It's because he's had to spend his entire life trying to work out these
> weird apes he got raised by and amongst.
>
> I am nothing like him, no not at all surely not, okay?
You are, of course, totally correct and that explains nothing about
your philosophies.
jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S. Wilkins) wrote:
<snip>
> >
> My son has Asperger's. Very smart but definitely socially handicapped.
> It's because he's had to spend his entire life trying to work out these
> weird apes he got raised by and amongst.
>
> I am nothing like him, no not at all surely not, okay?
your philosophies.
Walter Bushell
May 28, 2012, 8:30:49 AM5/28/12
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In article <XnsA029DE1CDB15t...@216.196.109.145>,
GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
> "Your Reputation is what people know about you.
> Your Honour is what you know about yourself"
>
> Lois McMaster Bujold.
Bujold and Pratchett together. How weird is that?
> "Your Reputation is what people know about you.
> Your Honour is what you know about yourself"
>
> Lois McMaster Bujold.
GaryN
May 28, 2012, 1:14:59 PM5/28/12
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Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
news:proto-F9E05F....@news.panix.com:
> In article <XnsA026EA2F9595D...@216.196.109.145>,
> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> Some ingrained habits are simply sensible. I always check that a
>> weapon is unloaded the moment it is handed to me, I always check
dive and dive the plan" which is practically engraved on the heart of any
diver.
Same with flying gliders, which I also used to do, although they are a bit
more forgiving being designed to fly without power, but anyone not doing
the equivalent of kicking the tyres and testing the brakes before getting
catapulted into the sky is an idiot. I nearly lost one when the cat line
broke just before release[1].
gary
[1] Sounded like a bomb going off under my arse and the aircraft went into
a flat spin just below 2k feet. Interesting couple of minutes there..:-(
--
"Man with a crossbow in the proper place at the proper time
is worth a corps of heavy artillery half an hour late
and ten miles down the road from where it should be"
Gordon R. Dickson in "Tactics of Mistake"
news:proto-F9E05F....@news.panix.com:
> In article <XnsA026EA2F9595D...@216.196.109.145>,
> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> Some ingrained habits are simply sensible. I always check that a
>> the girth on a horse is correctly tightened before mounting, I check
>> a vehicle is in neutral before turning the key.
>
> With some hobbies like scuba diving being obsessive compulsive could
> be an advantage or if your a divemaster almost compulsory.
>
Yup, double check all equipment and follow the standard wisdom, "Plan the
>> a vehicle is in neutral before turning the key.
>
> With some hobbies like scuba diving being obsessive compulsive could
> be an advantage or if your a divemaster almost compulsory.
>
dive and dive the plan" which is practically engraved on the heart of any
diver.
Same with flying gliders, which I also used to do, although they are a bit
more forgiving being designed to fly without power, but anyone not doing
the equivalent of kicking the tyres and testing the brakes before getting
catapulted into the sky is an idiot. I nearly lost one when the cat line
broke just before release[1].
gary
[1] Sounded like a bomb going off under my arse and the aircraft went into
a flat spin just below 2k feet. Interesting couple of minutes there..:-(
--
"Man with a crossbow in the proper place at the proper time
is worth a corps of heavy artillery half an hour late
and ten miles down the road from where it should be"
Gordon R. Dickson in "Tactics of Mistake"
Larry Moore
May 28, 2012, 5:59:38 PM5/28/12
to
On 2012-05-28, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <XnsA029DE1CDB15t...@216.196.109.145>,
> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Your Reputation is what people know about you.
>> Your Honour is what you know about yourself"
>>
>> Lois McMaster Bujold.
>
> Bujold and Pratchett together. How weird is that?
>
There are similarities in pacing, character development,
> In article <XnsA029DE1CDB15t...@216.196.109.145>,
> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Your Reputation is what people know about you.
>> Your Honour is what you know about yourself"
>>
>> Lois McMaster Bujold.
>
> Bujold and Pratchett together. How weird is that?
>
the ability to gracefully commit the sin of trilogy and
more without blushing ... :-)
--
I refuse to believe corporations are people until Texas executes one.
GaryN
May 28, 2012, 6:38:20 PM5/28/12
to
Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1cidnUZ7RKvXaF7S...@wightman.ca:
> On 2012-05-28, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
>> In article <XnsA029DE1CDB15t...@216.196.109.145>,
>> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> "Your Reputation is what people know about you.
>>> Your Honour is what you know about yourself"
>>>
>>> Lois McMaster Bujold.
>>
>> Bujold and Pratchett together. How weird is that?
>>
>
> There are similarities in pacing, character development,
> the ability to gracefully commit the sin of trilogy and
> more without blushing ... :-)
>
I always thought that the first two Vorkosigan novels, "Shards of
Honour" and "Barrayar" were paralleled by the early Watch novels. Not
closely but similarities enough to cross genres.
And if Carrot isn't a cross match with Miles Vorkosigan then I'm the
Queen of Denmark.
The point I'm trying to make here is that they are novels about *people*
in the chosen mileuax[1].
Bujold doesn't write 'Rayguns and Rocketships' any more than PTerry
writes 'Sword and Sorcery'
I like the habit of certain authors to write trilogies but know when to
stop. Gibson is good at it, Alan Dean Foster is an expert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Damned_Trilogy
well worth reading if you have time. Oh, if you can get a copy of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Out_Of
without selling your sister (which I would because we don't like each
other much) I would say go for it. That's a stand alone.
I actually think ADF is a great author.
Allen Steele is another; trilogy, concentrate on it, complete it, and
then bog off to do something else. The 'Coyote' sequence is superb.
I reiterate, the books are about people, whatever the background is it's
just a wall to hang the pictures on.
gary
[1]Can never remember how to spell that damn French word.
news:1cidnUZ7RKvXaF7S...@wightman.ca:
> On 2012-05-28, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
>> In article <XnsA029DE1CDB15t...@216.196.109.145>,
>> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> "Your Reputation is what people know about you.
>>> Your Honour is what you know about yourself"
>>>
>>> Lois McMaster Bujold.
>>
>> Bujold and Pratchett together. How weird is that?
>>
>
> There are similarities in pacing, character development,
> the ability to gracefully commit the sin of trilogy and
> more without blushing ... :-)
>
Honour" and "Barrayar" were paralleled by the early Watch novels. Not
closely but similarities enough to cross genres.
And if Carrot isn't a cross match with Miles Vorkosigan then I'm the
Queen of Denmark.
The point I'm trying to make here is that they are novels about *people*
in the chosen mileuax[1].
Bujold doesn't write 'Rayguns and Rocketships' any more than PTerry
writes 'Sword and Sorcery'
I like the habit of certain authors to write trilogies but know when to
stop. Gibson is good at it, Alan Dean Foster is an expert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Damned_Trilogy
well worth reading if you have time. Oh, if you can get a copy of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Out_Of
without selling your sister (which I would because we don't like each
other much) I would say go for it. That's a stand alone.
I actually think ADF is a great author.
Allen Steele is another; trilogy, concentrate on it, complete it, and
then bog off to do something else. The 'Coyote' sequence is superb.
I reiterate, the books are about people, whatever the background is it's
just a wall to hang the pictures on.
gary
[1]Can never remember how to spell that damn French word.
Walter Bushell
May 29, 2012, 8:25:52 AM5/29/12
to
In article <XnsA061F075F7CEE...@216.196.109.145>,
I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
spectrum.
spectrum.
GaryN
May 29, 2012, 10:02:26 AM5/29/12
to
Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
news:proto-2642CA....@news.panix.com:
I'm partially crippled, alcohol dependent, and late onset epileptic. Also
an ex convict and serial lover of many women[1].
Now I'm bloody autistic as well?
Please expound upon your declaration[2]
Don't take too much personal offence at my attitude, I'm always like this
with pompous gits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRBmWJZQis&feature=related
gary
[1] Whose names I don't remember, probably more than you ever talked to in
your life anyway.
[2]Oh FFS we have another pseudointellectual ass. I thought we'd got rid
of Bratt; now we have a replacement. Is there any way to ban them? Other
than plonking?[3]
[3] Or visiting with a crowbar, Bratt lives in UK, maybe could benefit from
a visit.
Larry Moore
May 29, 2012, 10:56:19 AM5/29/12
to
>> I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
>> spectrum.
>>
>
> Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
>
I assure you that the writings of Terry Pratchett appeal to the entire
>> spectrum.
>>
>
> Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
>
range covered by the DSM-IV, not just the autism spectrum [1]
( though I'm pleased that they find themes and scenes that appeal
to them and help them get through their days.)
[1] wait.
--
Think of Cassandra, the prophetess. There was a prophecy that said that Troy
would fall to the Greeks, she knew it. But that didn't prevent her from
fighting for her city; she did what she could and, eventually, she paid
with her life her failure. But it was her duty to do it. Ugo Bardi
Lizzy Taylor
May 29, 2012, 11:27:30 AM5/29/12
to
On 29/05/2012 15:02, GaryN wrote:
>
> [3] Or visiting with a crowbar, Bratt lives in UK, maybe could benefit from
> a visit.
Though it was a sledgehammer :-)
>
> [3] Or visiting with a crowbar, Bratt lives in UK, maybe could benefit from
> a visit.
Lizzy
Robert Carnegie
May 29, 2012, 2:55:05 PM5/29/12
to
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:25:52 PM UTC+1, Walter Bushell wrote:
> In article <XnsA061F075F7CEE...@216.196.109.145>,
> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:1cidnUZ7RKvXaF7S...@wightman.ca:
> >
> > > On 2012-05-28, Walter Bushell
> In article <XnsA061F075F7CEE...@216.196.109.145>,
> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:1cidnUZ7RKvXaF7S...@wightman.ca:
> >
> > > On 2012-05-28, Walter Bushell
(Whom I haven't read.)
GaryN
May 29, 2012, 3:38:49 PM5/29/12
to
Lizzy Taylor <li...@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote in
news:4fc4eae2$0$7314$5b6a...@news.zen.co.uk:
Yeah but I found the smallest of my sister's 3 wrecking bars at mine and
the 7lb sledgehammer from the SO's place (you think I'm joking?).
Seemes a shame not to use them in joint action.
I seem to remember that vampires are anal retentive so we'll sprinkle
sweetcorn (the SO bought a load by mistake and neither of us like it
much) to draw him to the pointless trenches left by the workmen moving
streetlamps for no particularly apparent reason.
Then we can kick him in, drive a wooden stake through his heart (I have
a couple of spare bits of wood from walking stick production), and use
the wrecking bar or the machete to drive off anyone who interferes.
We still haven't worked out why it has become necessary to move every
street lamp here 3 feet to the right (or left , depending where you're
looking from) but it could be useful
What was irritating is that they dug bloody great holes in the pavement
on Thursday and came back on Monday to finish the job.
"Yup, lets leave sodding great holes in the pavement where people pissed
at the weekend will absolutely not fall in".
"Of course they won't be able to see the sodding great holes where we
dug up the lights because we haven't put any lights back yet"
"Of course there may be a problem with other people who are sober and
just walking to the shop but we'll claim they were pissed if they fall
in a hole"[1]
H&S my arse!
gary
news:4fc4eae2$0$7314$5b6a...@news.zen.co.uk:
the 7lb sledgehammer from the SO's place (you think I'm joking?).
Seemes a shame not to use them in joint action.
I seem to remember that vampires are anal retentive so we'll sprinkle
sweetcorn (the SO bought a load by mistake and neither of us like it
much) to draw him to the pointless trenches left by the workmen moving
streetlamps for no particularly apparent reason.
Then we can kick him in, drive a wooden stake through his heart (I have
a couple of spare bits of wood from walking stick production), and use
the wrecking bar or the machete to drive off anyone who interferes.
We still haven't worked out why it has become necessary to move every
street lamp here 3 feet to the right (or left , depending where you're
looking from) but it could be useful
What was irritating is that they dug bloody great holes in the pavement
on Thursday and came back on Monday to finish the job.
"Yup, lets leave sodding great holes in the pavement where people pissed
at the weekend will absolutely not fall in".
"Of course they won't be able to see the sodding great holes where we
dug up the lights because we haven't put any lights back yet"
"Of course there may be a problem with other people who are sober and
just walking to the shop but we'll claim they were pissed if they fall
in a hole"[1]
H&S my arse!
gary
Larry Moore
May 29, 2012, 9:17:49 PM5/29/12
to
On 2012-05-29, Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
> ...than Bujold does.
>
> (Whom I haven't read.)
>
They're fun reads and are available as ebooks, free,
> ...than Bujold does.
>
> (Whom I haven't read.)
>
from the baen website.
--
What you have here is an example of that well known phenomenon,
A Bookshop Assistant Who Knows Buggerall But Won't Admit It
(probably some kind of arts graduate).
(Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)
Walter Bushell
May 29, 2012, 9:54:06 PM5/29/12
to
Chris Zakes
May 30, 2012, 8:53:08 AM5/30/12
to
On Tue, 29 May 2012 08:25:52 -0400, an orbital mind-control laser
caused Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> to write:
(snip)
>I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
>spectrum.
One quibble, if I may. As I understand things, when speaking of a
knight, "Sir" goes with the first name, not the last. So the
appropriate form of address would be Sir Terry (or Sir Terrence, if
you're feling particularly formal, and Sir Pterry if you're not.)
-Chris Zakes
Texas
--
Arguably, the real crime here would be building a machine this cool and *not* using it.
-Alice in the "Dilbert" comic strip
caused Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> to write:
(snip)
>I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
>spectrum.
knight, "Sir" goes with the first name, not the last. So the
appropriate form of address would be Sir Terry (or Sir Terrence, if
you're feling particularly formal, and Sir Pterry if you're not.)
-Chris Zakes
Texas
--
Arguably, the real crime here would be building a machine this cool and *not* using it.
-Alice in the "Dilbert" comic strip
Robert Carnegie
May 30, 2012, 10:15:32 AM5/30/12
to
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:02:26 PM UTC+1, GaryN wrote:
> visiting with a crowbar, Bratt lives
> in UK, maybe could benefit from
> a visit.
There's a line and this is way across
> visiting with a crowbar, Bratt lives
> in UK, maybe could benefit from
> a visit.
it. Violence fantasy is inappropriate.
Robert Carnegie
May 30, 2012, 10:08:44 AM5/30/12
to
On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:53:08 PM UTC+1, Chris Zakes wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 08:25:52 -0400, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused Walter Bushell
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 08:25:52 -0400, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused Walter Bushell
> to write:
>
> (snip)
>
> >I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
> >spectrum.
>
> One quibble, if I may. As I understand things, when speaking of a
> knight, "Sir" goes with the first name, not the last. So the
> appropriate form of address would be Sir Terry (or Sir Terrence, if
> you're feling particularly formal, and Sir Pterry if you're not.)
And that /isn't/ just an Asperger-type
>
> (snip)
>
> >I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
> >spectrum.
>
> One quibble, if I may. As I understand things, when speaking of a
> knight, "Sir" goes with the first name, not the last. So the
> appropriate form of address would be Sir Terry (or Sir Terrence, if
> you're feling particularly formal, and Sir Pterry if you're not.)
comment; this is /important/ ... well,
with knights.
Thus, in the UK version of _The Apprentice_,
Sir Alan Sugar is addressed by the victims
as "Sir Alan". I don't know what American
players call Donald Trump, or if he too has
a couple of stern sidekicks whose romantic
liaisons you can fantasise about during the
dull bits.
Walter Bushell
May 30, 2012, 11:12:29 AM5/30/12
to
In article <gi5cs7d784015j949...@4ax.com>,
Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 08:25:52 -0400, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> to write:
>
> (snip)
>
> >I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
> >spectrum.
>
> One quibble, if I may. As I understand things, when speaking of a
> knight, "Sir" goes with the first name, not the last. So the
> appropriate form of address would be Sir Terry (or Sir Terrence, if
> you're feling particularly formal, and Sir Pterry if you're not.)
>
> -Chris Zakes
> Texas
Thanks for the info.
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 08:25:52 -0400, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> to write:
>
> (snip)
>
> >I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
> >spectrum.
>
> One quibble, if I may. As I understand things, when speaking of a
> knight, "Sir" goes with the first name, not the last. So the
> appropriate form of address would be Sir Terry (or Sir Terrence, if
> you're feling particularly formal, and Sir Pterry if you're not.)
>
> -Chris Zakes
> Texas
Lesley Weston
May 30, 2012, 1:07:38 PM5/30/12
to
On 05-29-12 12:38 PM, GaryN wrote:
<snip>
> We still haven't worked out why it has become necessary to move every
> street lamp here 3 feet to the right (or left , depending where you're
> looking from) but it could be useful
Oh but I know why. I think it was at Rose Hill that we were driving our
Triumph Mayflower [1] when a lamp post quite literally jumped out into
the middle of the road in front of us and attacked the poor car. The
street was laid out with a corner bulge (why?) that had the lamp post on
it, and of course the lamp wasn't working so that it was invisible. That
was only forty-odd years ago, so it's not surprising that they've only
just got around to fixing it.
[1] A most beautiful car, known widely as the poor man's Rolls. Ours
wasn't in the best of shape by the time it became ours, and was in worse
shape after this incident.
Lesley.
--
This address is real, but to reach me use leswes att shaw dott ca
<snip>
> We still haven't worked out why it has become necessary to move every
> street lamp here 3 feet to the right (or left , depending where you're
> looking from) but it could be useful
Triumph Mayflower [1] when a lamp post quite literally jumped out into
the middle of the road in front of us and attacked the poor car. The
street was laid out with a corner bulge (why?) that had the lamp post on
it, and of course the lamp wasn't working so that it was invisible. That
was only forty-odd years ago, so it's not surprising that they've only
just got around to fixing it.
[1] A most beautiful car, known widely as the poor man's Rolls. Ours
wasn't in the best of shape by the time it became ours, and was in worse
shape after this incident.
Lesley.
--
This address is real, but to reach me use leswes att shaw dott ca
Andrew Nevill
May 30, 2012, 1:32:53 PM5/30/12
to
On Wed, 30 May 2012 07:08:44 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
<rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:53:08 PM UTC+1, Chris Zakes wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 08:25:52 -0400, an orbital mind-control laser
>> caused Walter Bushell
>> to write:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>> >I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
>> >spectrum.
>>
>> One quibble, if I may. As I understand things, when speaking of a
>> knight, "Sir" goes with the first name, not the last. So the
>> appropriate form of address would be Sir Terry (or Sir Terrence, if
>> you're feling particularly formal, and Sir Pterry if you're not.)
>
>And that /isn't/ just an Asperger-type
>comment; this is /important/ ... well,
>with knights.
>
>Thus, in the UK version of _The Apprentice_,
>Sir Alan Sugar is addressed by the victims
>as "Sir Alan".
You are correct about the form of address for a knight
<rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:53:08 PM UTC+1, Chris Zakes wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 08:25:52 -0400, an orbital mind-control laser
>> caused Walter Bushell
>> to write:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>> >I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
>> >spectrum.
>>
>> One quibble, if I may. As I understand things, when speaking of a
>> knight, "Sir" goes with the first name, not the last. So the
>> appropriate form of address would be Sir Terry (or Sir Terrence, if
>> you're feling particularly formal, and Sir Pterry if you're not.)
>
>And that /isn't/ just an Asperger-type
>comment; this is /important/ ... well,
>with knights.
>
>Thus, in the UK version of _The Apprentice_,
>Sir Alan Sugar is addressed by the victims
>as "Sir Alan".
However, as we all seem to have our pednat[1] hats on today, I feel
obliged to point out that Sir Alan has since been made a peer (Baron
Sugar of Clapton) and is thus now addressed by the Apprentice's
'contestants' (and probably everyone else) as Lord Sugar
http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/alan-sugar/58862
[1] Obligatory mistake
Andrew Nevill B.F. D.W. FdV. Reply address: nevill...@ntlworld.com
AFPWorshipper to Spooky, AFPfiance to Sarah (Nanny Ogg) pia & Esmeraldus.
AFPUncle to James Vaughan. You cannot value friends as pennies,
nor can you replace them as easily (Spooky in email, Aug 2001.)
Christopher J. Henrich
May 30, 2012, 4:45:36 PM5/30/12
to
In article <A_SdnTde3_cOflnS...@wightman.ca>, Larry Moore
matter how hard we try.
--
Chris Henrich
http://www.mathinteract.com
We've tamed the lightning and taught sand to give error messages. - Nancy
Lebovitz
<sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2012-05-29, GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
> > Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
>
> >> I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
> >> spectrum.
> >>
> >
> > Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
> >
>
> I assure you that the writings of Terry Pratchett appeal to the entire
> range covered by the DSM-IV, not just the autism spectrum [1]
> ( though I'm pleased that they find themes and scenes that appeal
> to them and help them get through their days.)
>
> [1] wait.
Well, they also appeal to poor schmucks who can't get into the DSM no
> On 2012-05-29, GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
> > Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
>
> >> I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
> >> spectrum.
> >>
> >
> > Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
> >
>
> I assure you that the writings of Terry Pratchett appeal to the entire
> range covered by the DSM-IV, not just the autism spectrum [1]
> ( though I'm pleased that they find themes and scenes that appeal
> to them and help them get through their days.)
>
> [1] wait.
matter how hard we try.
--
Chris Henrich
http://www.mathinteract.com
We've tamed the lightning and taught sand to give error messages. - Nancy
Lebovitz
GaryN
May 30, 2012, 6:27:47 PM5/30/12
to
Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:jq5k4s$1v71$1...@mud.stack.nl:
Oh they haven't fixed them, they're just moving them for inexplicable
reasons. For some reason it is apparently necessary for the lamp posts
on a 500 yard stretch of straight road to be moved 3 feet sideways.
Oh, and for that nice Mr Carnegie, the crowbar comment was a literary
reference referring to Ridcully enquiring about inserting a copy of Hex
into the Deans head to give him some sense.
Ponder: "It weighs ten tons"
Ridcully: "So we'll need a big crowbar then"
See, not agressive or anything, just expressing an opinion and quoting
(ish) from PTerry.
I dunno, people complain about the lack of talk about the books and then
when you do allude to them they complain about that.
Can't win in this ng, although I already knew that..:-)
news:jq5k4s$1v71$1...@mud.stack.nl:
reasons. For some reason it is apparently necessary for the lamp posts
on a 500 yard stretch of straight road to be moved 3 feet sideways.
Oh, and for that nice Mr Carnegie, the crowbar comment was a literary
reference referring to Ridcully enquiring about inserting a copy of Hex
into the Deans head to give him some sense.
Ponder: "It weighs ten tons"
Ridcully: "So we'll need a big crowbar then"
See, not agressive or anything, just expressing an opinion and quoting
(ish) from PTerry.
I dunno, people complain about the lack of talk about the books and then
when you do allude to them they complain about that.
Can't win in this ng, although I already knew that..:-)
GaryN
May 30, 2012, 6:33:43 PM5/30/12
to
Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
news:proto-301BE8....@news.panix.com:
all the while he keeps calling me "Corporal Strappi"? Seems only
fair:-)
gary
Chris Zakes
May 31, 2012, 7:33:35 AM5/31/12
to
On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:33:43 -0500, an orbital mind-control laser
caused GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> to write:
>Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
>news:proto-301BE8....@news.panix.com:
>
>> In article <gi5cs7d784015j949...@4ax.com>,
>> Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 08:25:52 -0400, an orbital mind-control laser
>>> caused Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> to write:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>> >I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the
>>> >autism spectrum.
>>>
>>> One quibble, if I may. As I understand things, when speaking of a
>>> knight, "Sir" goes with the first name, not the last. So the
>>> appropriate form of address would be Sir Terry (or Sir Terrence, if
>>> you're feling particularly formal, and Sir Pterry if you're not.)
>>>
>>> -Chris Zakes
>>> Texas
>>
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>
>Can I continue calling him "Do you want another brandy you old bugger"
>all the while he keeps calling me "Corporal Strappi"? Seems only
>fair:-)
>
>gary
I don't see why not. (Although I don't think "Sir Bugger" would be
caused GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> to write:
>Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
>news:proto-301BE8....@news.panix.com:
>
>> In article <gi5cs7d784015j949...@4ax.com>,
>> Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 08:25:52 -0400, an orbital mind-control laser
>>> caused Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> to write:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>> >I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the
>>> >autism spectrum.
>>>
>>> One quibble, if I may. As I understand things, when speaking of a
>>> knight, "Sir" goes with the first name, not the last. So the
>>> appropriate form of address would be Sir Terry (or Sir Terrence, if
>>> you're feling particularly formal, and Sir Pterry if you're not.)
>>>
>>> -Chris Zakes
>>> Texas
>>
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>
>Can I continue calling him "Do you want another brandy you old bugger"
>all the while he keeps calling me "Corporal Strappi"? Seems only
>fair:-)
>
>gary
quite appropriate.)
Larry Moore
May 31, 2012, 8:13:52 AM5/31/12
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On 2012-05-30, Christopher J. Henrich <chen...@monmouth.com> wrote:
> In article <A_SdnTde3_cOflnS...@wightman.ca>, Larry Moore
><sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-05-29, GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>> > Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
>>
>> >> I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
>> >> spectrum.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
>> >
>>
>> I assure you that the writings of Terry Pratchett appeal to the entire
>> range covered by the DSM-IV, not just the autism spectrum [1]
>> ( though I'm pleased that they find themes and scenes that appeal
>> to them and help them get through their days.)
>>
>> [1] wait.
> Well, they also appeal to poor schmucks who can't get into the DSM no
> matter how hard we try.
>
That was just DSM-IV. Wait for DSM-V - the DSM For The Rest Of US
> In article <A_SdnTde3_cOflnS...@wightman.ca>, Larry Moore
><sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-05-29, GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>> > Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
>>
>> >> I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the autism
>> >> spectrum.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
>> >
>>
>> I assure you that the writings of Terry Pratchett appeal to the entire
>> range covered by the DSM-IV, not just the autism spectrum [1]
>> ( though I'm pleased that they find themes and scenes that appeal
>> to them and help them get through their days.)
>>
>> [1] wait.
> Well, they also appeal to poor schmucks who can't get into the DSM no
> matter how hard we try.
>
:-)
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Geoff Field
Jun 2, 2012, 12:34:24 AM6/2/12
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GaryN wrote:
> Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
> news:proto-2642CA....@news.panix.com:
>
>> In article <XnsA061F075F7CEE...@216.196.109.145>,
>> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>>
[snip - I hope the attributions are right, now]
> Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote in
> news:proto-2642CA....@news.panix.com:
>
>> In article <XnsA061F075F7CEE...@216.196.109.145>,
>> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I reiterate, the books are about people, whatever the background is
>>> it's just a wall to hang the pictures on.
>>>
>>> gary
>>>
>>> [1]Can never remember how to spell that damn French word.
>>
>> I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the
>> autism spectrum.
I don't see how this remark fits in with the discussion so far.
>>> it's just a wall to hang the pictures on.
>>>
>>> gary
>>>
>>> [1]Can never remember how to spell that damn French word.
>>
>> I think though that Sir Pratchett appeals more to people on the
>> autism spectrum.
However, I can agree that it seems to apply - at least, with the "high
end" of the ASD spectrum.
> Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
of Autism - from the classic "Canner's" Autism to Asperger's Syndrome.
Very loosely, it seems to be divided by IQ. My oldest son (with an IQ
of 130) is an Aspie, while my youngest (whose IQ was deemed to be
about 100 when he was pre-verbal) was listed as "High-Functioning"
Autism, but has now been placed in the Aspie bucket (now that he's
verbal and showing evidence of a reasonably functioning brain).
> I'm partially crippled, alcohol dependent, and late onset epileptic.
> Also an ex convict and serial lover of many women[1].
legend").
> Now I'm bloody autistic as well?
> Please expound upon your declaration[2]
>
> Don't take too much personal offence at my attitude, I'm always like
> this with pompous gits.
I writ might even be wright...
> [1]..[2]
NMF...
Geoff
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GaryN
Jun 2, 2012, 4:02:34 AM6/2/12
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"Geoff Field" <geoff...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:kJgyr.48127$6Y6....@newsfe19.iad:
<snip>
>> Don't take too much personal offence at my attitude, I'm always like
>> this with pompous gits.
>
> Yes, and you're probably aware of what I explained above. What
> I writ might even be wright...
>
>> [1]..[2]
> NMF...
>
> Geoff
I'm reasonably sure it wasn't you I was calling a pompous git Geoff, seen
no evidence of it so far, think the assorted attribs got mixed up
somewhere.
I also know someone with aspbergers, it's not that she's stupid, quite the
opposite. Just that her brain is working too fast for her body to keep up
so she comes across as slow.
gary
news:kJgyr.48127$6Y6....@newsfe19.iad:
<snip>
>> Don't take too much personal offence at my attitude, I'm always like
>> this with pompous gits.
>
> Yes, and you're probably aware of what I explained above. What
> I writ might even be wright...
>
>> [1]..[2]
> NMF...
>
> Geoff
no evidence of it so far, think the assorted attribs got mixed up
somewhere.
I also know someone with aspbergers, it's not that she's stupid, quite the
opposite. Just that her brain is working too fast for her body to keep up
so she comes across as slow.
gary
Alec Cawley
Jun 2, 2012, 12:09:54 PM6/2/12
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Autism Spectrum is the current term used to stop people trying to slice the
autism problem into dozens of different named disorders which are
essentially indistinguishable.
Autism has a number of symptoms, including
Mental handicap
Inability to relate to others
Inability to handle distraction
Obsessive behaviour
All these vary in intensity, and the less intense versions shade
indistinguishably into normal behaviour. There is mental handicap, and
there is being a bit thick. There is obsessive neatness, and there is just
being a neat person. There is total inability to relate to other people,
and there is preferring to keep yourself to yourself.
Each individual labelled autistic has these in different amounts.
Originally there was just Autism. Then people identified Asbergers Syndrome
as a lesser, but recognisable, problem whose recognition would help both
those affected and their friends handle life better. Then people started to
try to identify shades between these two and elsewhere, and devised complex
Tests to decide which label to attach to any individual. The term Autism
Spectrum was invented to short cut this and say there was little point in
inventing dozens of labels when all you want to say is that these are
people who could use some help in their lives.
That recognition also means that there are plenty of people whose
personalities have a number of the symptoms of autism, but in small amount,
and are perfectly able to handle life without needing special assistance.
To say someone is on the autism spectrum is like saying that they are, say,
arthritic. Many people have and handle mild arthritis without the
assistance of others; some are so affected by it as to be crippled and need
continuous help.
autism problem into dozens of different named disorders which are
essentially indistinguishable.
Autism has a number of symptoms, including
Mental handicap
Inability to relate to others
Inability to handle distraction
Obsessive behaviour
All these vary in intensity, and the less intense versions shade
indistinguishably into normal behaviour. There is mental handicap, and
there is being a bit thick. There is obsessive neatness, and there is just
being a neat person. There is total inability to relate to other people,
and there is preferring to keep yourself to yourself.
Each individual labelled autistic has these in different amounts.
Originally there was just Autism. Then people identified Asbergers Syndrome
as a lesser, but recognisable, problem whose recognition would help both
those affected and their friends handle life better. Then people started to
try to identify shades between these two and elsewhere, and devised complex
Tests to decide which label to attach to any individual. The term Autism
Spectrum was invented to short cut this and say there was little point in
inventing dozens of labels when all you want to say is that these are
people who could use some help in their lives.
That recognition also means that there are plenty of people whose
personalities have a number of the symptoms of autism, but in small amount,
and are perfectly able to handle life without needing special assistance.
To say someone is on the autism spectrum is like saying that they are, say,
arthritic. Many people have and handle mild arthritis without the
assistance of others; some are so affected by it as to be crippled and need
continuous help.
GaryN
Jun 2, 2012, 2:03:39 PM6/2/12
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Alec Cawley <al...@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in
news:1032154431360345120.99...@news.individual.net:
> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
>> Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
>
> Autism Spectrum is the current term used to stop people trying to
> slice the autism problem into dozens of different named disorders
> which are essentially indistinguishable.
>
> Autism has a number of symptoms, including
> Mental handicap
I may or may not be OK on that.
> Inability to relate to others
Everyone or just some? I'm usually good at relating to people but there
are some I just can't stand.
> Inability to handle distraction
Define 'distraction'
> Obsessive behaviour
Again - define
> All these vary in intensity, and the less intense versions shade
> indistinguishably into normal behaviour. There is mental handicap, and
> there is being a bit thick. There is obsessive neatness, and there is
> just being a neat person. There is total inability to relate to other
> people, and there is preferring to keep yourself to yourself.
So if I'm an obsessive slob who can't be arsed to keep the place clean
but I get on really well with people despite enjoying my time alone now
and then where do I fit
> Each individual labelled autistic has these in different amounts.
> Originally there was just Autism. Then people identified Asbergers
> Syndrome as a lesser, but recognisable, problem whose recognition
> would help both those affected and their friends handle life better.
It's a difficult one to deal with and I don't think it's fully
understood. We do our best with our friend who suffers from it. She's
not good communicating with people but she's superb with animals. I'm
good with dogs and horses[1] but she beats me by a long way.
> Then people started to try to identify shades between these two and
> elsewhere, and devised complex Tests to decide which label to attach
> to any individual. The term Autism Spectrum was invented to short cut
> this and say there was little point in inventing dozens of labels when
> all you want to say is that these are people who could use some help
> in their lives.
Maybe I should take the test, see what they make of me. Just out of
interest did they take the tests themselves?
> That recognition also means that there are plenty of people whose
> personalities have a number of the symptoms of autism, but in small
> amount, and are perfectly able to handle life without needing special
> assistance. To say someone is on the autism spectrum is like saying
> that they are, say, arthritic. Many people have and handle mild
> arthritis without the assistance of others; some are so affected by it
> as to be crippled and need continuous help.
The problem amongst all that is "could use some help in their lives"
Who decides?
All too often that phrase means "I think they should" rather than "The
patient/client has requested"
I could use some help in my life. A million or so should do it so I can
live in seclusion for the rest of my days without having to meet all
those nasty people who infest the country.
gary
[1]But not cats, nobody can command cats.
news:1032154431360345120.99...@news.individual.net:
> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
>> Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
>
> Autism Spectrum is the current term used to stop people trying to
> slice the autism problem into dozens of different named disorders
> which are essentially indistinguishable.
>
> Autism has a number of symptoms, including
> Mental handicap
> Inability to relate to others
are some I just can't stand.
> Inability to handle distraction
Define 'distraction'
> Obsessive behaviour
Again - define
> All these vary in intensity, and the less intense versions shade
> indistinguishably into normal behaviour. There is mental handicap, and
> there is being a bit thick. There is obsessive neatness, and there is
> just being a neat person. There is total inability to relate to other
> people, and there is preferring to keep yourself to yourself.
but I get on really well with people despite enjoying my time alone now
and then where do I fit
> Each individual labelled autistic has these in different amounts.
> Originally there was just Autism. Then people identified Asbergers
> Syndrome as a lesser, but recognisable, problem whose recognition
> would help both those affected and their friends handle life better.
understood. We do our best with our friend who suffers from it. She's
not good communicating with people but she's superb with animals. I'm
good with dogs and horses[1] but she beats me by a long way.
> Then people started to try to identify shades between these two and
> elsewhere, and devised complex Tests to decide which label to attach
> to any individual. The term Autism Spectrum was invented to short cut
> this and say there was little point in inventing dozens of labels when
> all you want to say is that these are people who could use some help
> in their lives.
interest did they take the tests themselves?
> That recognition also means that there are plenty of people whose
> personalities have a number of the symptoms of autism, but in small
> amount, and are perfectly able to handle life without needing special
> assistance. To say someone is on the autism spectrum is like saying
> that they are, say, arthritic. Many people have and handle mild
> arthritis without the assistance of others; some are so affected by it
> as to be crippled and need continuous help.
Who decides?
All too often that phrase means "I think they should" rather than "The
patient/client has requested"
I could use some help in my life. A million or so should do it so I can
live in seclusion for the rest of my days without having to meet all
those nasty people who infest the country.
gary
[1]But not cats, nobody can command cats.
daniel goldsmith
Jun 3, 2012, 11:46:21 AM6/3/12
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crawling sort of way, made Suralan a Baron for various politicial
reasons. As a Baron he now gets entitled with his surname, so the
"contestants" now call him "Lorzhugar"
This crawling at the feet and tugging at the forelock leaves me cold
Three Hundred & Sixty-Odd years ago, the British had the right idea
and went and lopped the head off their King. They could do with an
inqury as to where that backbone went, tbh.
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Larry Moore
Jun 3, 2012, 12:24:16 PM6/3/12
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On 2012-06-03, daniel goldsmith <dg...@ascraeus.bongley.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> Oh, not any more he's not. The last Yuckian Government, in a pathetic
> crawling sort of way, made Suralan a Baron for various politicial
> reasons. As a Baron he now gets entitled with his surname, so the
> "contestants" now call him "Lorzhugar"
>
> This crawling at the feet and tugging at the forelock leaves me cold
> Three Hundred & Sixty-Odd years ago, the British had the right idea
> and went and lopped the head off their King. They could do with an
> inqury as to where that backbone went, tbh.
>
>
Daniel ... are you living on the right side of the pond now?
>
> Oh, not any more he's not. The last Yuckian Government, in a pathetic
> crawling sort of way, made Suralan a Baron for various politicial
> reasons. As a Baron he now gets entitled with his surname, so the
> "contestants" now call him "Lorzhugar"
>
> This crawling at the feet and tugging at the forelock leaves me cold
> Three Hundred & Sixty-Odd years ago, the British had the right idea
> and went and lopped the head off their King. They could do with an
> inqury as to where that backbone went, tbh.
>
>
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Sabremeister Brian
Jun 7, 2012, 11:37:55 AM6/7/12
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In a speech called kJgyr.48127$6Y6....@newsfe19.iad,
IQ is not a delineator for how severe someone's ASD is. I am a
high-functioning Aspie, and I happen to have a genius-level IQ.
But I know several people who are as high-functioning or nearly
so, and their IQs are in the 110-120 range. Yes, the more severe
someone's ASD, the more likely they are to have a lower IQ, but it
is not necessarily a direct link.
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high-functioning Aspie, and I happen to have a genius-level IQ.
But I know several people who are as high-functioning or nearly
so, and their IQs are in the 110-120 range. Yes, the more severe
someone's ASD, the more likely they are to have a lower IQ, but it
is not necessarily a direct link.
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Sabremeister Brian
Jun 7, 2012, 11:45:32 AM6/7/12
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In a speech called
XnsA066C1E4B7D09...@216.196.109.145,
language and difficulty interpreting tone of voice and facial
expression, leading to intense discomfort when meeting new people,
especially in groups, and in those situations exhibiting behaviour
that most people would call "shy", unless they knew the reason
why.
>> Inability to handle distraction
>
> Define 'distraction'
You can do something reasonably complicated whilst listening to
your music, but if someone else starts playing their music so you
can hear, you can't.
>> Obsessive behaviour
>
> Again - define
When I get a new game, I like to make spreadsheets to handily
reference all the little bits of information that make playing the
game easier, and I spend several hours refining them, often
stopping in the middle of a play session to tweak them a bit or
add a feature. It probably helps that most games I play are
strategy games...
>> All these vary in intensity, and the less intense versions
>> shade indistinguishably into normal behaviour. There is mental
>> handicap, and there is being a bit thick. There is obsessive
>> neatness, and there is just being a neat person. There is
>> total inability to relate to other people, and there is
>> preferring to keep yourself to yourself.
>
> So if I'm an obsessive slob who can't be arsed to keep the
> place clean but I get on really well with people despite
> enjoying my time alone now and then where do I fit
Almost certainly not ASD, IMO.
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XnsA066C1E4B7D09...@216.196.109.145,
GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> said:
> Alec Cawley <al...@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in
> news:1032154431360345120.99...@news.individual.net:
>
>> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
>>
>> Autism Spectrum is the current term used to stop people trying
>> to slice the autism problem into dozens of different named
>> disorders which are essentially indistinguishable.
>>
>> Autism has a number of symptoms, including
>> Mental handicap
>
> I may or may not be OK on that.
>
>> Inability to relate to others
>
> Everyone or just some? I'm usually good at relating to people
> but there are some I just can't stand.
The most common manifestation is an inability to read body
> Alec Cawley <al...@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in
> news:1032154431360345120.99...@news.individual.net:
>
>> GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
>>
>> Autism Spectrum is the current term used to stop people trying
>> to slice the autism problem into dozens of different named
>> disorders which are essentially indistinguishable.
>>
>> Autism has a number of symptoms, including
>> Mental handicap
>
> I may or may not be OK on that.
>
>> Inability to relate to others
>
> Everyone or just some? I'm usually good at relating to people
> but there are some I just can't stand.
language and difficulty interpreting tone of voice and facial
expression, leading to intense discomfort when meeting new people,
especially in groups, and in those situations exhibiting behaviour
that most people would call "shy", unless they knew the reason
why.
>> Inability to handle distraction
>
> Define 'distraction'
your music, but if someone else starts playing their music so you
can hear, you can't.
>> Obsessive behaviour
>
> Again - define
reference all the little bits of information that make playing the
game easier, and I spend several hours refining them, often
stopping in the middle of a play session to tweak them a bit or
add a feature. It probably helps that most games I play are
strategy games...
>> All these vary in intensity, and the less intense versions
>> shade indistinguishably into normal behaviour. There is mental
>> handicap, and there is being a bit thick. There is obsessive
>> neatness, and there is just being a neat person. There is
>> total inability to relate to other people, and there is
>> preferring to keep yourself to yourself.
>
> So if I'm an obsessive slob who can't be arsed to keep the
> place clean but I get on really well with people despite
> enjoying my time alone now and then where do I fit
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Jun 8, 2012, 10:31:39 AM6/8/12
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On Thursday, June 7, 2012 4:37:55 PM UTC+1, Brian Wakeling wrote:
> In a speech called kJgyr.48127$6Y6....@newsfe19.iad,
> Geoff Field <geoff...@hotmail.com> said:
> > GaryN wrote:
> >> Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
> >
> > That's the spectrum of conditions considered to lie within the
> > definitions of Autism - from the classic "Canner's" Autism to
> > Asperger's Syndrome. Very loosely, it seems to be divided by
> > IQ. My oldest son (with an IQ of 130) is an Aspie, while my
> > youngest (whose IQ was deemed to
> > be about 100 when he was pre-verbal) was listed as
> > "High-Functioning" Autism, but has now been placed in the Aspie
> > bucket (now that he's verbal and showing evidence of a
> > reasonably functioning brain).
>
> IQ is not a delineator for how severe someone's ASD is. I am a
> high-functioning Aspie, and I happen to have a genius-level IQ.
> But I know several people who are as high-functioning or nearly
> so, and their IQs are in the 110-120 range. Yes, the more severe
> someone's ASD, the more likely they are to have a lower IQ, but it
> is not necessarily a direct link.
101 is above average. And, even those of
> In a speech called kJgyr.48127$6Y6....@newsfe19.iad,
> Geoff Field <geoff...@hotmail.com> said:
> > GaryN wrote:
> >> Errr, "The autism spectrum"? How does that one work then?
> >
> > That's the spectrum of conditions considered to lie within the
> > definitions of Autism - from the classic "Canner's" Autism to
> > Asperger's Syndrome. Very loosely, it seems to be divided by
> > IQ. My oldest son (with an IQ of 130) is an Aspie, while my
> > youngest (whose IQ was deemed to
> > be about 100 when he was pre-verbal) was listed as
> > "High-Functioning" Autism, but has now been placed in the Aspie
> > bucket (now that he's verbal and showing evidence of a
> > reasonably functioning brain).
>
> IQ is not a delineator for how severe someone's ASD is. I am a
> high-functioning Aspie, and I happen to have a genius-level IQ.
> But I know several people who are as high-functioning or nearly
> so, and their IQs are in the 110-120 range. Yes, the more severe
> someone's ASD, the more likely they are to have a lower IQ, but it
> is not necessarily a direct link.
us in contact with "the autistic spectrum"
(points to self) shouldn't just speculate,
but arguably "high-functioning" is achieved
by using the mental muscles that work,
and work well, to compensate for the ones
that don't; and I think that to score well
in an IQ test requires the sort of
skill-learning and information-aquisition
that a more heavily impaired person won't
have done.
Alternatively, you can just take several IQ
tests in preparation beforehand, as practice
improves performance considerably on these.
I am not sure what this all adds up to,
other than that we aspies are a considerable
nuisance. (Except, it was claimed, to
Mr. Pratchett - Dr. Pratchett - who has
made a good living from us.)
GaryN
Jun 8, 2012, 10:46:16 AM6/8/12
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Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote in news:0b677c50-60ad-
4c97-a846-a...@googlegroups.com:
> On Thursday, June 7, 2012 4:37:55 PM UTC+1, Brian Wakeling wrote:
>> In a speech called kJgyr.48127$6Y6....@newsfe19.iad,
>> Geoff Field <geoff...@hotmail.com> said:
<snip>
>> IQ is not a delineator for how severe someone's ASD is. I am a
>> high-functioning Aspie, and I happen to have a genius-level IQ.
>> But I know several people who are as high-functioning or nearly
>> so, and their IQs are in the 110-120 range. Yes, the more severe
>> someone's ASD, the more likely they are to have a lower IQ, but it
>> is not necessarily a direct link.
>
> 101 is above average. And, even those of
> us in contact with "the autistic spectrum"
> (points to self) shouldn't just speculate,
> but arguably "high-functioning" is achieved
> by using the mental muscles that work,
> and work well, to compensate for the ones
> that don't; and I think that to score well
> in an IQ test requires the sort of
> skill-learning and information-aquisition
> that a more heavily impaired person won't
> have done.
<snip>
I once passed an IQ test with flying colours despite turning over 2
pages at once. When questioned about that my response was: "I was
concentrating on the questions not the page numbers"
Seemed to work.
gary
4c97-a846-a...@googlegroups.com:
> On Thursday, June 7, 2012 4:37:55 PM UTC+1, Brian Wakeling wrote:
>> In a speech called kJgyr.48127$6Y6....@newsfe19.iad,
>> Geoff Field <geoff...@hotmail.com> said:
>> IQ is not a delineator for how severe someone's ASD is. I am a
>> high-functioning Aspie, and I happen to have a genius-level IQ.
>> But I know several people who are as high-functioning or nearly
>> so, and their IQs are in the 110-120 range. Yes, the more severe
>> someone's ASD, the more likely they are to have a lower IQ, but it
>> is not necessarily a direct link.
>
> 101 is above average. And, even those of
> us in contact with "the autistic spectrum"
> (points to self) shouldn't just speculate,
> but arguably "high-functioning" is achieved
> by using the mental muscles that work,
> and work well, to compensate for the ones
> that don't; and I think that to score well
> in an IQ test requires the sort of
> skill-learning and information-aquisition
> that a more heavily impaired person won't
> have done.
I once passed an IQ test with flying colours despite turning over 2
pages at once. When questioned about that my response was: "I was
concentrating on the questions not the page numbers"
Seemed to work.
gary
Geoff Field
Jun 8, 2012, 7:34:30 PM6/8/12
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assessment team explained it to us that way at the time. That's why
I used the phrase "loosely, it seems to be". I should also add that this
is the way the spectrum was broken up officially in Australia.
For that matter, the spectrum is being redefined by the Australian
Government. Now there is no official bracket for Aspies. It's
now all just called "Autistic Spectrum Disorder" or "Autism".
GaryN
Jun 9, 2012, 3:22:52 AM6/9/12
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"Geoff Field" <geoff...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ZZvAr.568$hJ3...@newsfe14.iad:
together"
I upset ATOS years ago when answering the question
ATOS: "Can you raise your hands above your head?"
Moi: "How far?"
ATOS: "Just 'above your head'"
Moi: "No"
ATOS: "But I just saw you scratch your head with your right hand"
Moi: "Yes, and?"
ATOS: "So you can raise your hands above your head"
You can see it coming can't you...
Moi: "Only that one and your question specifically says 'hands' plural"
I won.
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