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April Goodwin-Smith

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Oct 11, 2008, 12:15:59 AM10/11/08
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Now Shaw is downloading the headers and then telling
me the messages are no longer on the server.

Bah with mega piffle sticks.

April.
--
Yea, verily, for it is written, wherever two or three are gathered
together, they shall kick the shit out of the little one.
~ Tiny Bulcher on afp ~


Lesley Weston

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Oct 11, 2008, 11:26:22 AM10/11/08
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April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
> Now Shaw is downloading the headers and then telling
> me the messages are no longer on the server.
>
> Bah with mega piffle sticks.

Did you get my e-mail about using L-Space? I've abandoned Shaw for
newsgroups altogether.

Lesley.

Lesley Weston

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Oct 11, 2008, 11:40:21 AM10/11/08
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April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
> Now Shaw is downloading the headers and then telling
> me the messages are no longer on the server.
>
> Bah with mega piffle sticks.

Everybody: I can't stop TBird from sending this to the group as well as
April, so I apologise.

April: I'll send this by Shaw e-mail, which does still work - so far. I
sent you an e-mail when they first started spoiling everything a while
back about using L-Space on Thunderbird or using Seamonkey as your
newsreader, but you didn't answer, so of course it's entirely possible
that Shaw ate it. Anyway, you could try going to the L-Space site and/or
you could try Seamonkey instead of Microsoft - either works for me, and
one doesn't have to try to explain what a newsgroup is to the allegedly
technical help at Shaw.

Lesley.

Rocky Frisco

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Oct 11, 2008, 4:41:00 PM10/11/08
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April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
> Now Shaw is downloading the headers and then telling
> me the messages are no longer on the server.
>
> Bah with mega piffle sticks.

I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird. About a half hour ago, while reading
this newsgroup, I started getting blank messages when clicking on a
header. I changed servers and got the same result. I then subscribed
to alt.books.pratchett and alt.config and got the same result. I then
rebooted and reopened Thunderbird and everything worked right again,
so I dumped alt.books.pratchett and alt.config and returned to reading
alt.fan.pratchett.

-Rock
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April Goodwin-Smith

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Oct 11, 2008, 8:53:34 PM10/11/08
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"Rocky Frisco" wrote ...

Nope. Shaw continued in its evil ways today. I even did the
unsubscribe and resubscribe, and all that did was make it say
that aaaaaaalllllllll the messages were no longer on the service.

I'm back with individual, which was always good to me.

Take that evil Shaw with desiccated coconut sprinkles.[1]

April.

[1] - really hate desiccated coconut sprinkles, bleah


Jeff Howell

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Oct 13, 2008, 10:07:20 AM10/13/08
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Lesley Weston wrote:
> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
>> Now Shaw is downloading the headers and then telling
>> me the messages are no longer on the server.
>>
>> Bah with mega piffle sticks.
>
>
>
> Everybody: I can't stop TBird from sending this to the group as well as
> April, so I apologise.

Can't you? Should just be able to change the 'From' account to an email
account and that should take care of it. Admittedly, that does mean you
have to have an email account set up in Thunderbird...

--
Jeff

Lesley Weston

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Oct 13, 2008, 11:28:27 AM10/13/08
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I thought I had, but it doesn't seem to be possible since I don't use my
Shaw e-mail identity for newsgroups. It would be nice though, since
TBird sent the message to afp, who didn't need it, but not to April. Who
also didn't need it since she's solved the problem herself, but that's
not the point.

Lesley.

Jeff Howell

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Oct 13, 2008, 12:45:47 PM10/13/08
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The email account I have set up in Thunderbird isn't the one I use for
newsgroups, but I can still use the 'From' dropdown to switch which
account I'm using to send... Right-click post, choose 'reply to sender
only', switch from to the email account, and it works...

You can skip the right-click bit, but you'd have to fill in the email
yourself, which is probably not ideal.

--
Jeff

Lesley Weston

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Oct 14, 2008, 7:08:50 PM10/14/08
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I can see several reasons here why it works for you but not for me: I'm
using a Mac - different version of TBird and no right-click. Also for my
non-newsgroup mail I use a different identity on Apple's Mail program,
which TBird doesn't seem to know about any more than it knows about my
Seamonkey identity (why should it, after all?). Also, for newsgroups and
newsgroup mail, even though I go through my Yahoo account instead of my
Shaw account, I still have to use the Shaw server, since verily my ISP
is a jealous ISP and will tolerate no other, and anyway we'd have to pay
for another.

So I sent my message to April again via my Mail identity, but as I said
she didn't need it. The whole thing was rather pointless, really, except
that April told me some really good news in her reply, which is nice.

Lesley.

Jeff Howell

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Oct 15, 2008, 8:37:17 AM10/15/08
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Lesley Weston wrote:
> Jeff Howell wrote:
>> The email account I have set up in Thunderbird isn't the one I use for
>> newsgroups, but I can still use the 'From' dropdown to switch which
>> account I'm using to send... Right-click post, choose 'reply to sender
>> only', switch from to the email account, and it works...
>>
>> You can skip the right-click bit, but you'd have to fill in the email
>> yourself, which is probably not ideal.
>>
> I can see several reasons here why it works for you but not for me: I'm
> using a Mac - different version of TBird and no right-click. Also for my
> non-newsgroup mail I use a different identity on Apple's Mail program,
> which TBird doesn't seem to know about any more than it knows about my
> Seamonkey identity (why should it, after all?). Also, for newsgroups and
> newsgroup mail, even though I go through my Yahoo account instead of my
> Shaw account, I still have to use the Shaw server, since verily my ISP
> is a jealous ISP and will tolerate no other, and anyway we'd have to pay
> for another.

Well. If you get a two-button mouse, it's entirely possible to
right-click on a Mac unless you have a very old one indeed. But that's
not really the point. ;)

> So I sent my message to April again via my Mail identity, but as I
> said she didn't need it. The whole thing was rather pointless, really,
> except that April told me some really good news in her reply, which is
> nice.

So not pointless at all, in fact. Good news is always worth a bit of
effort.

--
Jeff

John Wilkins

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Oct 15, 2008, 9:18:00 AM10/15/08
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Jeff Howell <notan...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Lesley Weston wrote:
> > Jeff Howell wrote:
> >> The email account I have set up in Thunderbird isn't the one I use for
> >> newsgroups, but I can still use the 'From' dropdown to switch which
> >> account I'm using to send... Right-click post, choose 'reply to sender
> >> only', switch from to the email account, and it works...
> >>
> >> You can skip the right-click bit, but you'd have to fill in the email
> >> yourself, which is probably not ideal.
> >>
> > I can see several reasons here why it works for you but not for me: I'm
> > using a Mac - different version of TBird and no right-click. Also for my
> > non-newsgroup mail I use a different identity on Apple's Mail program,
> > which TBird doesn't seem to know about any more than it knows about my
> > Seamonkey identity (why should it, after all?). Also, for newsgroups and
> > newsgroup mail, even though I go through my Yahoo account instead of my
> > Shaw account, I still have to use the Shaw server, since verily my ISP
> > is a jealous ISP and will tolerate no other, and anyway we'd have to pay
> > for another.
>
> Well. If you get a two-button mouse, it's entirely possible to
> right-click on a Mac unless you have a very old one indeed. But that's
> not really the point. ;)

Or hold down the control key while you click, which also works under
Windows and *nix.


>
> > So I sent my message to April again via my Mail identity, but as I
> > said she didn't need it. The whole thing was rather pointless, really,
> > except that April told me some really good news in her reply, which is
> > nice.
>
> So not pointless at all, in fact. Good news is always worth a bit of
> effort.


--
John S. Wilkins, Philosophy, University of Queensland
scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre

April Goodwin-Smith

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Oct 18, 2008, 4:21:40 PM10/18/08
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"Lesley Weston" wrote...
<snippa whacka packet>

> So I sent my message to April again via my Mail identity,
> but as I said she didn't need it. The whole thing was rather
> pointless, really, except that April told me some really good
> news in her reply, which is nice.
>

Oh yes, indeedy. I have new employment that I am very excited
about (previously very worried about), and I am not speaking
too detailedly about it for a while because of fear of jinx.

I am very happy about it, though. :)

April.


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