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Nigel Stapley

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Oct 11, 2009, 9:02:41 AM10/11/09
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"Dude, is this thing on?"

Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?

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Regards

Nigel Stapley

www.thejudge.me.uk

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ppint. at IMT

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Oct 11, 2009, 9:15:51 AM10/11/09
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- hi; Nigel Stapley broke the whispering wind:
[snip]

>
>Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>
- shhhhhhhh!

- they're all busy hibernating. ([a])

- love, a ppint. that needs to get bust with
a little white masonry ppaint.

[a] - or possibly reading
--
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this completes its mission."
[approx. quote] - nasa spokesperson

the apostate

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Oct 11, 2009, 10:22:18 AM10/11/09
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ppint. at IMT wrote:
> - hi; Nigel Stapley broke the whispering wind:
> [snip]
> >
>> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>>
> - shhhhhhhh!
>
> - they're all busy hibernating. ([a])
>
> - love, a ppint. that needs to get bust with
> a little white masonry ppaint.
>
> [a] - or possibly reading
Wha? HUh? Spring already?

Reader in Invisible Writings

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Oct 11, 2009, 12:14:29 PM10/11/09
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Mostly reading UA and if finished, wondering when it is appropriate to
post something...

Also bored by tedious 'ED CONRAD - the only man to know the truth' and
'Link to Crazy things on the Internet' type posts.

Just try going to abp, its currently so quiet even the tumble weed
aren't being blown along...

--
Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!

April Goodwin-Smith

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Oct 11, 2009, 12:20:03 PM10/11/09
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"Nigel Stapley" wrote...

> "Dude, is this thing on?"
> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>

Yes.

I bet everyone else is having lots of fun.

<sulk>

April.


April Goodwin-Smith

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Oct 11, 2009, 12:26:39 PM10/11/09
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"Reader in Invisible Writings" wrote...
<snip>

>>> Nigel Stapley broke the whispering wind:
>>> [snip]
>>>> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
<snip>

> Mostly reading UA and if finished, wondering when it is
> appropriate to post something...
>

Grrr. I *hate* Canadian publishers. I have a whole three
day weekend here, that I could use to read the whole new
book in one go - and *when* do the publishers release the
new Pratchett? Tuesday, the day *after* the long weekend.

I was lazy this year, but normally I order from the UK because
(a) it is released earlier (and yes, even with the shipping time it
gets here before the Canadian release date), and (b) it is often
cheaper, even counting the shipping and the taxes applied as it
passes through Canadian customs.

Stupid Canadian publishers.

Humph.

April.


the apostate

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Oct 11, 2009, 2:15:07 PM10/11/09
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April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
<snip>

>
> Stupid Canadian publishers.
>
> Humph.
Poor colonials.
hey maybe you should have a revolution. The quebec tea party has a nice
ring to it :)

--
The Apostate

GaryN

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Oct 12, 2009, 10:31:20 AM10/12/09
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Nigel Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
news:uv2dnTxfPZ3tSkzX...@brightview.co.uk:

> "Dude, is this thing on?"
>
> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>

Yeah.

Apparently some bugger called Pratchett wrote a new book and everyone is
busy reading it at present.

What can you do?

gary

--
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Warren Zevon.

John Wilkins

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Oct 12, 2009, 10:44:54 AM10/12/09
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In article <Xns9CA29DB142244g...@212.23.3.119>, GaryN
<ga...@scaryriders.com> wrote:

> Nigel Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
> news:uv2dnTxfPZ3tSkzX...@brightview.co.uk:
>
> > "Dude, is this thing on?"
> >
> > Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
> >
>
> Yeah.
>
> Apparently some bugger called Pratchett wrote a new book and everyone is
> busy reading it at present.
>
> What can you do?
>
> gary

Up to page 232, and I only bought it two hours ago...

Nigel Stapley

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Oct 12, 2009, 11:03:59 AM10/12/09
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GaryN wrote:
> Nigel Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
> news:uv2dnTxfPZ3tSkzX...@brightview.co.uk:
>
>> "Dude, is this thing on?"
>>
>> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>>
>
> Yeah.
>
> Apparently some bugger called Pratchett wrote a new book and everyone is
> busy reading it at present.
>
> What can you do?
>

Do what I do; be a tightarse and wait for the paperback...

Lister

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Oct 12, 2009, 11:43:59 AM10/12/09
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:44:54 +0200, John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au>
wrote:


I've it, but haven't started it yet

Lesley Weston

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Oct 12, 2009, 11:55:11 AM10/12/09
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At least it's an adult book [1], so it will be available on Tuesday [2].
If it had been one of his children's books, we wouldn't be seeing it for
months yet. I don't know why they make this distinction.

[1] Those who have already read it, please do *not* reveal whether or
not it deserves this dubious title.

[2] For those who buy it. Me, I have to wait until 24 people have read
it first. Of course I could buy it, but then we would both have to miss
a concert to pay for it, which hardly seems fair when I only have to
wait 24*3/10 weeks [3].

[3] There are 10 copies at the library, and I assume each person will
keep it for the full three weeks that VPL allows, since they usually do.

--
Lesley Weston

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time. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca, adjusting as necessary.

Winterbay

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Oct 12, 2009, 3:54:08 PM10/12/09
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Lesley Weston skrev:

10 copies??? I have to be happy if the library here gets one in 6 months
time...

/Winterbay

John Wilkins

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Oct 12, 2009, 4:12:38 PM10/12/09
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In article <havjhm$2v25$1...@mud.stack.nl>, Lesley Weston
<brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Uhhhmmmm... I'm not saying anything...

Ferd Burfle

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Oct 12, 2009, 11:20:46 PM10/12/09
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GaryN wrote:
> Nigel Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
> news:uv2dnTxfPZ3tSkzX...@brightview.co.uk:
>
>> "Dude, is this thing on?"
>>
>> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>>
>
> Yeah.
>
> Apparently some bugger called Pratchett wrote a new book and everyone is
> busy reading it at present.
>
> What can you do?

New one since Nation???

Erm, please tell about.

-Ferd Burfle
--
Poop, once slung, can never be unslung. Given enough time, it will
decorate the slinger.

Reader in Invisible Writings

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Oct 13, 2009, 1:34:10 AM10/13/09
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Unseen Academicals. A main stream Discworld book and a Wizard's book to
boot. Full supporting cast, even if just in cameo of off stage - but
Carrot is not mentioned even in passing!

Lesley Weston

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Oct 13, 2009, 11:21:19 AM10/13/09
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There seem to be quite a few TP fans in Vancouver. The library are very
good about buying books and things when people ask them to, but for DW
books they don't need my prompting. What's more, TP books regularly turn
up for pay-what-you-can in the VPL sales of books that are now too
fragile to survive being on their shelves, meaning that they have been
extensively read. So I do have quite a collection.

Daniel Orner

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Oct 13, 2009, 12:22:44 PM10/13/09
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Nigel Stapley wrote:
> GaryN wrote:
>> Nigel Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
>> news:uv2dnTxfPZ3tSkzX...@brightview.co.uk:
>>
>>> "Dude, is this thing on?"
>>>
>>> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>>>
>>
>> Yeah.
>>
>> Apparently some bugger called Pratchett wrote a new book and everyone
>> is busy reading it at present.
>>
>> What can you do?
>>
>
> Do what I do; be a tightarse and wait for the paperback...
>

Ditto here, though I reserve the hardcover in the library ASAP for the
first read. However, for some reason it seems to take months to get into
the library system after release. My sister reserved Dan Brown's new
book and got it *the day after it came out*. Hmph.

--
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role-playing games? Strange but true!

Daniel Orner

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Oct 13, 2009, 12:23:17 PM10/13/09
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Nigel Stapley wrote:
> "Dude, is this thing on?"
>
> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>

WHAT?

Thomas Zahr

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Oct 13, 2009, 1:09:44 PM10/13/09
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Reader in Invisible Writings <markfo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

...

> Unseen Academicals. A main stream Discworld book and a Wizard's book
> to
> boot. Full supporting cast, even if just in cameo of off stage - but
> Carrot is not mentioned even in passing!

Gimme a break, my copy only just shipped
--
Cheers,

Thomas =:-)

Reader in Invisible Writings

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Oct 13, 2009, 1:22:53 PM10/13/09
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The words above tell you nothing about the story that is not already
self evident from the title and cover art or is of no significance
whatsoever. Now if I had mentioned that #### ######## had a key role or
that it involves an ### who ###### with ###### and also ######## is
involved then that would be another matter. I don't think I am spoiling
anything by mentioning that football is involved as one is on the front
cover as shown on all sites where you could have ordered it from ;-)

CCA

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Oct 13, 2009, 4:50:59 PM10/13/09
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On Oct 11, 5:14�pm, Reader in Invisible Writings

> Mostly reading UA and if finished, wondering when it is appropriate to
> post something...

Me too. Really enjoying UA - I think it's safe enough to post that,
isn't it? For me, the most enjoyable Terry Pratchett book of any kind
since The Fifth Element :-)

> Also bored by tedious 'ED CONRAD - the only man to know the truth' and
> 'Link to Crazy things on the Internet' type posts.

Gods, yes. And l**d too

CCA

Ferd Burfle

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Oct 13, 2009, 6:09:02 PM10/13/09
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Reader in Invisible Writings wrote:

> Unseen Academicals. A main stream Discworld book and a Wizard's book to
> boot. Full supporting cast, even if just in cameo of off stage - but
> Carrot is not mentioned even in passing!

Muchas thankee!

Is our pTerry doing any signage?

Esmeraldus

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Oct 13, 2009, 9:02:17 PM10/13/09
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"CCA" <sphir...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:82846302-2f80-4f3c...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...


On Oct 11, 5:14�pm, Reader in Invisible Writings

> Mostly reading UA and if finished, wondering when it is appropriate to
> post something...

Me too. Really enjoying UA - I think it's safe enough to post that,
isn't it? For me, the most enjoyable Terry Pratchett book of any kind
since The Fifth Element :-)

I finished it a couple of days ago.

Spoiler space, although I do not believe this is an actual spoiler. Still.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.


I liked it very much. I don't think it will displace Night Watch and Carpe
Jugulum as my favorites, but I thought that the themes were sufficiently
dark for my tastes without being heavy. That made a novel in the UU arc much
more palatable to me.


--
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AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator
AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion
"If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible warning."

April Goodwin-Smith

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Oct 13, 2009, 10:32:41 PM10/13/09
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"Lesley Weston" wrote ...

> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
>> "Reader in Invisible Writings" wrote...
>> <snip>
>>>>> Nigel Stapley broke the whispering wind:
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>> <snip>
>>> Mostly reading UA and if finished, wondering when it is
>>> appropriate to post something...
>> Grrr. I *hate* Canadian publishers. <snip> - and *when*

>> do the publishers release the new Pratchett? Tuesday, the
>> day *after* the long weekend. <snip>
>> Stupid Canadian publishers.

> At least it's an adult book [1], so it will be available on
> Tuesday [2]. <snip>

Nope.

Not in any bookstore in town. May the publishers all
rot in heck.

It may still be quicker and cheaper to order from the UK.

Bah.

April.


Chris Zakes

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Oct 14, 2009, 7:53:17 AM10/14/09
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:03:59 +0100, an orbital mind-control laser
caused Nigel Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> to write:

>GaryN wrote:
>> Nigel Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
>> news:uv2dnTxfPZ3tSkzX...@brightview.co.uk:
>>
>>> "Dude, is this thing on?"
>>>
>>> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>>>
>>
>> Yeah.
>>
>> Apparently some bugger called Pratchett wrote a new book and everyone is
>> busy reading it at present.
>>
>> What can you do?
>>
>
>Do what I do; be a tightarse and wait for the paperback...

I used to do that (unless family members bought the hardback for me at
Hogswatch) but nowadays, I figure Terry could use a bit of extra
money, so I buy the hardback when it comes out, then replace it with
the paperback when *that* comes out.

-Chris Zakes
Texas

Considering how many wars have to do with population pressure and limited
resources, "make love not war" may be a self-defeating concept.

Lesley Weston

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Oct 14, 2009, 9:06:43 AM10/14/09
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It might be worth phoning White Dwarf, if you haven't already. The
Library still says it's on order, though, so perhaps it's been
classified as a children's book.


>
> It may still be quicker and cheaper to order from the UK.
>
> Bah.

Bah indeed.

GaryN

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Oct 14, 2009, 10:48:53 AM10/14/09
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Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:hb4idu
$2sqf$1...@mud.stack.nl:

<snip>


>
> It might be worth phoning White Dwarf, if you haven't already.

How is phoning Games Workshop's house magazine going to help?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dwarf_%28magazine%29

Larry Moore

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Oct 14, 2009, 5:07:35 PM10/14/09
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Our county library has ordered (a) copy and I'm number three on the
waiting list. Modified rapture. :-)


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steveski

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Oct 14, 2009, 5:30:58 PM10/14/09
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Larry Moore wrote:

[snip]



> Our county library has ordered (a) copy and I'm number three on the
> waiting list. Modified rapture. :-)

I'm 7 of 9 (really) . . . "We are Pentium - you will be approximated"

--
Steveski

April Goodwin-Smith

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Oct 14, 2009, 11:09:59 PM10/14/09
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"GaryN" wrote ...
> Lesley Weston wrote in

> <snip>
>> It might be worth phoning White Dwarf, if you haven't already.
> How is phoning Games Workshop's house magazine going to help?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dwarf_%28magazine%29
>

Nonononono. White DWARF, you know:
http://www.deadwrite.com/wd.html

Sadly, the Discworld novels page is a tad out of date, but
Unseen Academicals is listed for October release - kinda
sorta. In the October to December releases.

*sigh*

April.


Free Lunch

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Oct 14, 2009, 11:15:49 PM10/14/09
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:09:59 -0700, "April Goodwin-Smith"
<agoodw...@shaw.ca> wrote in alt.fan.pratchett:

I'd be surprised if the release in Canada is later than in the US and I
have finished my US copy.

Lesley Weston

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Oct 15, 2009, 10:25:09 AM10/15/09
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GaryN wrote:
> Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:hb4idu
> $2sqf$1...@mud.stack.nl:
>
> <snip>
>> It might be worth phoning White Dwarf, if you haven't already.
>
> How is phoning Games Workshop's house magazine going to help?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dwarf_%28magazine%29
>
> gary
>
Well, they might give you some useful information, I guess. But White
Dwarf is a Vancouver bookshop (independent even) that carries SF,
Fantasy, Mystery and Vaguely Science books. The people who own it are
very nice and so was their dog, Roland.

http://www.deadwrite.com/wd.html

Lesley Weston

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Oct 15, 2009, 10:29:22 AM10/15/09
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Everything on that page is slightly out of date, it's part of the charm.
But the shop itself is bang on target, and one of the owners got me
started on DW books.

Nigel Stapley

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Oct 15, 2009, 4:15:09 PM10/15/09
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Nigel Stapley wrote:
> GaryN wrote:
>> Nigel Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
>> news:uv2dnTxfPZ3tSkzX...@brightview.co.uk:
>>
>>> "Dude, is this thing on?"
>>>
>>> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>>>
>>
>> Yeah.
>>
>> Apparently some bugger called Pratchett wrote a new book and everyone
>> is busy reading it at present.
>>
>> What can you do?
>>
>
> Do what I do; be a tightarse and wait for the paperback...
>

Further proof: I've never bought any of Pterry's "kids' books", but was
toying with the idea of buying "Nation".

It was half-price in Waterstone's today, so I bought it, along with
TFOD. Now I've just got to finish my re-reading of TSOD3.

Daniel Orner

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Oct 15, 2009, 4:16:39 PM10/15/09
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Does that include the Tiffany books? Or are you just referring to the
Bromeliad and the Johnny books?

Nigel Stapley

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Oct 15, 2009, 5:20:35 PM10/15/09
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Daniel Orner wrote:
> Nigel Stapley wrote:
>> Nigel Stapley wrote:
>>> GaryN wrote:
>>>> Nigel Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in
>>>> news:uv2dnTxfPZ3tSkzX...@brightview.co.uk:
>>>>
>>>>> "Dude, is this thing on?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently some bugger called Pratchett wrote a new book and
>>>> everyone is busy reading it at present.
>>>>
>>>> What can you do?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do what I do; be a tightarse and wait for the paperback...
>>>
>>
>> Further proof: I've never bought any of Pterry's "kids' books", but
>> was toying with the idea of buying "Nation".
>>
>> It was half-price in Waterstone's today, so I bought it, along with
>> TFOD. Now I've just got to finish my re-reading of TSOD3.
>>
>
> Does that include the Tiffany books? Or are you just referring to
> the Bromeliad and the Johnny books?
>

No, all of them.

April Goodwin-Smith

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Oct 15, 2009, 11:26:13 PM10/15/09
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"Free Lunch" wrote ...
> "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote in alt.fan.pratchett:
<snip>

>>Sadly, the Discworld novels page is a tad out of date, but
>>Unseen Academicals is listed for October release - kinda
>>sorta. In the October to December releases.
> I'd be surprised if the release in Canada is later than in the
> US and I have finished my US copy.

Well, I'm very happy for you, but it hasn't made it into any
bookstores in town so far.

April.


Larry Moore

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Oct 16, 2009, 5:24:08 AM10/16/09
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Sadly I must confirm. The bookstore I haunt, Reflections in Fergus, has it
"on order" but not on the shelf yet. Comes from living in an entrepot
economy :0(

There are a few local publishers (Anansi, Coachhouse, etc) that fill
domestic orders in the same timeframe as their US orders of a new release.
For publishers based in the Excited States, we are an afterthought.

Daniel Orner

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Oct 16, 2009, 9:55:55 AM10/16/09
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That's a little sad... the Tiffany books far outshine many of the main
series offerings, in my opinion. You're doing yourself a disservice. The
Johnny books are also very good in their own ways.

Lesley Weston

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Oct 16, 2009, 10:43:50 AM10/16/09
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Though when we do finally get the books, they seem to be the UK edition
rather than the US one. Something to do with not letting the bloody
Colonials get ideas above their station, perhaps.

Larry Moore

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Oct 16, 2009, 6:13:37 PM10/16/09
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I have an Embarrassment. Four days agom 'The Evolution of God';
two days ago 'Mothers and Others' by Hrdy; today (ordered in
June,) UA by PTerry arrived at the bookstores I use.

I loaned 'the Evolution' to our Mennonite librarian for review
(her voice has weight with the library aquisitions committee,) and
I shall try to read the others as bedtime books.

This copy of UA is the Doubleday British edition - librarian
with ball on back cover - backed by team on front cover.
I think it's the only UK edition I have.

Ferd Burfle

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Oct 21, 2009, 12:33:29 AM10/21/09
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Lesley Weston wrote:

> Though when we do finally get the books, they seem to be the UK edition
> rather than the US one. Something to do with not letting the bloody
> Colonials get ideas above their station, perhaps.

It's those extra U's.

Lesley Weston

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Oct 21, 2009, 3:59:50 PM10/21/09
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Ferd Burfle wrote:
> Lesley Weston wrote:
>
>> Though when we do finally get the books, they seem to be the UK
>> edition rather than the US one. Something to do with not letting the
>> bloody Colonials get ideas above their station, perhaps.
>
> It's those extra U's.

But the extra ink is well wasted, if only on annoying everybody else.
And we waste less ink (or breath) on saying "You can come out now"
instead of "We are in a coming out from under the table situation as of
this moment in time". What /was/ that movie? I have an image of Denholm
Elliott saying the line as a well-mannered diplomat who is, of course,
fluent in all languages, but I can't remember anything else about it.

Richard Bos

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Oct 24, 2009, 5:47:43 PM10/24/09
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Nigel Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote:

> Daniel Orner wrote:
> > Nigel Stapley wrote:
> >> Further proof: I've never bought any of Pterry's "kids' books", but

> > Does that include the Tiffany books? Or are you just referring to

> > the Bromeliad and the Johnny books?
>
> No, all of them.

Then I suggest you do buy the Tiffany books. They're really only
honorary children's books - all the usual Pratchett hallmarks, but
without the dark edges of, say, MR.

Richard

April Goodwin-Smith

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Oct 24, 2009, 7:15:31 PM10/24/09
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"April Goodwin-Smith" wrote ...

Apparently not a single bookstore in Vancouver actually
stocked the book. If I placed an order with a local book
store, it would be minimum three weeks and $39.95 -
before taxes.

I have just ordered it from the UK. We will see how much
longer and how much more expensive it will be. I have
handicapped the UK delivery by selecting the el cheapo
delivery method - minimum 14 days before it even gets
as far as Canada Customs.

April.


Lesley Weston

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Oct 25, 2009, 10:22:25 AM10/25/09
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I find buying used books from the States is easier and quicker than
buying them from the UK, and usually cheaper too - I don't know about
newly-released ones. Amazon.com won't sell books to Canada because of
the existence of Amazon.ca, but there must be other US stores. And
Chapters claim to have it in stock at $23.09 plus taxes and shipping,
but there's no duty.

Meanwhile, the library still says it's ON ORDER; I can see why they
feel the need to shout it.

April Goodwin-Smith

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Oct 25, 2009, 1:00:18 PM10/25/09
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"Lesley Weston" wrote ...
> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
<snip>

>> Apparently not a single bookstore in Vancouver actually
>> stocked the book. <snip> I have just ordered it from the
>> UK.
<snip>

> I find buying used books from the States is easier and quicker
> than buying them from the UK, and usually cheaper too

I want the UK cover and printing and word choice. :)

<snip> And Chapters claim to have it in stock at $23.09 plus taxes


> and shipping, but there's no duty.

Chapters.ca claims to have it, to, but when I check the local stores,
the number of copies for each outlet is listed as 0. Huh.

> Meanwhile, the library still says it's ON ORDER; I can see why
> they feel the need to shout it.

From what I gathered from the bookstore I consulted, the person
who orders things for the area warehouse where the bookstores
then place their orders decided not to stock this book. So, the
bookstore has to place an order with that person, who then will
place an order with the publisher. *Who* is publishing Pratchett
for Canada? I don't know, but I do know they haven't got their
PR machine engaged for it.

Pah. Bah. Hah.

April.


Lesley Weston

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April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
> "Lesley Weston" wrote ...
>> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
> <snip>
>>> Apparently not a single bookstore in Vancouver actually
>>> stocked the book. <snip> I have just ordered it from the
>>> UK.
> <snip>
>
>> I find buying used books from the States is easier and quicker
>> than buying them from the UK, and usually cheaper too
>
> I want the UK cover and printing and word choice. :)

Fairy Nuff.


>
> <snip> And Chapters claim to have it in stock at $23.09 plus taxes
>> and shipping, but there's no duty.
>
> Chapters.ca claims to have it, to, but when I check the local stores,
> the number of copies for each outlet is listed as 0. Huh.
>
>> Meanwhile, the library still says it's ON ORDER; I can see why
>> they feel the need to shout it.
>
> From what I gathered from the bookstore I consulted, the person
> who orders things for the area warehouse where the bookstores
> then place their orders decided not to stock this book. So, the
> bookstore has to place an order with that person, who then will
> place an order with the publisher. *Who* is publishing Pratchett
> for Canada? I don't know, but I do know they haven't got their
> PR machine engaged for it.
>
> Pah. Bah. Hah.

That seems crazy. The latest from the second biggest seller in the UK
just has to be a desirable item in any English-speaking country. One
hopes that whoever is responsible will be missing their Hogswatch bonus.

April Goodwin-Smith

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"April Goodwin-Smith" wrote ...
> "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote ...
<snip>

> Apparently not a single bookstore in Vancouver actually
> stocked the book. If I placed an order with a local book
> store, it would be minimum three weeks and $39.95 -
> before taxes.
>
> I have just ordered it from the UK. We will see how much
> longer and how much more expensive it will be. I have
> handicapped the UK delivery by selecting the el cheapo
> delivery method - minimum 14 days before it even gets
> as far as Canada Customs.
>

That was on Saturday 24 October 2009, and it is now Tuesday
03 November 2009, and the book was waiting outside my
apartment door[1] this evening.

So that was 10 days, and 17.98 pounds (which was 8.00
pounds of shipping) [2], which will probably work out to
around (X 1.74924) $34.64 Canadian.

I think this compares favourably with three weeks and $39.95
plus 12% sales tax, or $44.75 Canadian.

I was just going to check the Chapters website again to see
if they have received the book in any of their stores yet, but
the website has become so frilly with dross that it hasn't
even loaded yet. Bah. Actually, according to the info
bar below, it has become infested with recursive google
double-click ads, so that's enough of that. Order books
from the UK it is.

April.

[1] - this leaving of mail outside my apartment door in the
hallway of my apartment does not recommend itself to me,
since, I regret to say, there are bona fide thieves in this building,
but this once seems to have been okay.

[2] - I was fortunate that customs did not feel it necessary
to charge taxes & duties & service charges etc.


Chris Zakes

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:30:28 -0800, an orbital mind-control laser
caused "April Goodwin-Smith" <agoodw...@shaw.ca> to write:

(snip)

>[1] - this leaving of mail outside my apartment door in the
>hallway of my apartment does not recommend itself to me,
>since, I regret to say, there are bona fide thieves in this building,
>but this once seems to have been okay.

Well, of course. "Only your friends steal your books."

-Chris Zakes
Texas

A politician may be distinguished from a statesman in that the former is,
unfortunately, not dead.

Adapted from "The Devil's Dictionary" by Ambrose Bierce

Lesley Weston

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Nov 4, 2009, 11:13:03 AM11/4/09
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April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
> "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote ...
>> "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote ...
> <snip>
>> Apparently not a single bookstore in Vancouver actually
>> stocked the book. If I placed an order with a local book
>> store, it would be minimum three weeks and $39.95 -
>> before taxes.
>>
>> I have just ordered it from the UK. We will see how much
>> longer and how much more expensive it will be. I have
>> handicapped the UK delivery by selecting the el cheapo
>> delivery method - minimum 14 days before it even gets
>> as far as Canada Customs.
>>
>
> That was on Saturday 24 October 2009, and it is now Tuesday
> 03 November 2009, and the book was waiting outside my
> apartment door[1] this evening.

Yay!

<snip>

> [2] - I was fortunate that customs did not feel it necessary
> to charge taxes & duties & service charges etc.

It seems to be completely arbitrary. There is a possibility that they
don't bother with anything under $50, but this is just a tentative
hypothesis.

Ferd Burfle

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:56:55 PM11/4/09
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Lesley Weston wrote:
> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
>> "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote ...
>>> "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote ...
>> <snip>
>>> Apparently not a single bookstore in Vancouver actually
>>> stocked the book. If I placed an order with a local book
>>> store, it would be minimum three weeks and $39.95 -
>>> before taxes.
>>>
>>> I have just ordered it from the UK. We will see how much
>>> longer and how much more expensive it will be. I have
>>> handicapped the UK delivery by selecting the el cheapo
>>> delivery method - minimum 14 days before it even gets
>>> as far as Canada Customs.
>>>
>>
>> That was on Saturday 24 October 2009, and it is now Tuesday
>> 03 November 2009, and the book was waiting outside my
>> apartment door[1] this evening.
>
> Yay!
>
> <snip>
>
>> [2] - I was fortunate that customs did not feel it necessary
>> to charge taxes & duties & service charges etc.
>
> It seems to be completely arbitrary. There is a possibility that they
> don't bother with anything under $50, but this is just a tentative
> hypothesis.

"Tentative Hypothesis" would be a great name for a rock band.

-Bird Ferfuffle
--
This statement is false.

Lesley Weston

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Nov 5, 2009, 12:47:42 PM11/5/09
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Who open for "Scientific Method".

Ferd Burfle

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Nov 5, 2009, 1:41:39 PM11/5/09
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That works for me.

John Wilkins

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Nov 5, 2009, 10:46:45 AM11/5/09
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In article <hcv347$1t40$3...@mud.stack.nl>, Lesley Weston
<brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Before "More than a Theory" finish the set.

Large Dave

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Isn't that a form of contraception? :-)

--
Large Dave
This space accidentally left blank

Large Dave

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Nov 5, 2009, 2:02:11 PM11/5/09
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One of my favourite tunes, already been done by Boston (the band not the
city) :-)

Brian Howlett

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Nov 5, 2009, 2:14:53 PM11/5/09
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On 5 Nov, Large Dave wrote:

> John Wilkins wrote:

[snip]


>>
>> Before "More than a Theory" finish the set.

> One of my favourite tunes, already been done by Boston (the band not
> the city) :-)

ITYM "More Than A Feeling", perhaps?
--
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------------------------------------------------------------------
Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted
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John Wilkins

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:23:20 AM11/5/09
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In article <a98b93b5...@bhowlett.adsl24.co.uk>, Brian Howlett
<news-s...@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:

> On 5 Nov, Large Dave wrote:
>
> > John Wilkins wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >>
> >> Before "More than a Theory" finish the set.
>
> > One of my favourite tunes, already been done by Boston (the band not
> > the city) :-)
>
> ITYM "More Than A Feeling", perhaps?

Bugger. Now I have that song in my head :-)

steveski

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Nov 5, 2009, 3:34:33 PM11/5/09
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Lesley Weston wrote:

> Ferd Burfle wrote:
>> Lesley Weston wrote:
>>> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:

[snip]

>>> It seems to be completely arbitrary. There is a possibility that they
>>> don't bother with anything under $50, but this is just a tentative
>>> hypothesis.
>>
>> "Tentative Hypothesis" would be a great name for a rock band.
>
> Who open for "Scientific Method".

I was in a band called The Rhythm Method [1]

--
Steveski

[1] None of the members were Catholic.

Large Dave

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Nov 5, 2009, 3:57:40 PM11/5/09
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Brian Howlett wrote:
> On 5 Nov, Large Dave wrote:
>
>> John Wilkins wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>> Before "More than a Theory" finish the set.
>
>> One of my favourite tunes, already been done by Boston (the band not
>> the city) :-)
>
> ITYM "More Than A Feeling", perhaps?

Dat's der bunny, I knew that - but why let facts get in the way of a
pune :-)

John Wilkins

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Nov 5, 2009, 1:58:55 PM11/5/09
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In article <7lgr6oF...@mid.individual.net>, steveski
<stev...@invalid.com> wrote:

> Lesley Weston wrote:
>
> > Ferd Burfle wrote:
> >> Lesley Weston wrote:
> >>> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >>> It seems to be completely arbitrary. There is a possibility that they
> >>> don't bother with anything under $50, but this is just a tentative
> >>> hypothesis.
> >>
> >> "Tentative Hypothesis" would be a great name for a rock band.
> >
> > Who open for "Scientific Method".
>
> I was in a band called The Rhythm Method [1]

Also known as the Mothers?

steveski

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Nov 5, 2009, 5:00:29 PM11/5/09
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John Wilkins wrote:

Heh. Some people called us *something* like that :-)

--
Steveski

John Wilkins

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Nov 5, 2009, 2:06:28 PM11/5/09
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In article <7lh07sF...@mid.individual.net>, steveski
<stev...@invalid.com> wrote:

Cue: Alice's Restaurant scene in the police station on the bench,
there...

Ferd Burfle

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Nov 5, 2009, 5:11:09 PM11/5/09
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steveski wrote:
> Lesley Weston wrote:
>
>> Ferd Burfle wrote:
>>> Lesley Weston wrote:
>>>> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>>> It seems to be completely arbitrary. There is a possibility that they
>>>> don't bother with anything under $50, but this is just a tentative
>>>> hypothesis.
>>> "Tentative Hypothesis" would be a great name for a rock band.
>> Who open for "Scientific Method".
>
> I was in a band called The Rhythm Method [1]

Are you for 86?

-Sparkle Farkle's boyfriend
--
The check is in the mail

Nigel Stapley

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Nov 5, 2009, 5:58:30 PM11/5/09
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Well, that's what "The Mothers" was actually short for, until their
record company made them change it.

--
Regards

Nigel Stapley

www.thejudge.me.uk

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SteveD

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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:57:40 +0000, Large Dave <Da...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Brian Howlett wrote:
>> On 5 Nov, Large Dave wrote:
>>
>>> John Wilkins wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>>> Before "More than a Theory" finish the set.
>>
>>> One of my favourite tunes, already been done by Boston (the band not
>>> the city) :-)
>>
>> ITYM "More Than A Feeling", perhaps?
>
>Dat's der bunny, I knew that - but why let facts get in the way of a
>pune :-)


I woke up this morning and the sun still shone
Bath of neutrinos to start my day
The spectrum's light was a familiar song
Now analysed, and the maths all say

It's more than a theory (more than a theory)
When the data lines up that perfect way (more than a theory)
I begin dreaming (more than a theory)
Of a world where pure science holds sway

I want my science world ruling the day

By noon I wandered through Nature's wilds
So many lifeforms to marvel at
All a wond'rous now as when a child
This jackpot we've won, just observing that -

It's more than a theory (more than a theory)
When the data lines up that perfect way (more than a theory)
I begin dreaming (more than a theory)
Of a world where pure science holds sway

I want my science world ruling the day

When I've retired and gotten old
My life wasn't wasted, regret no day
My dream still unfurls, and ever grows
I built my part, and they'll always say

It's more than a theory (more than a theory)
When the data lines up that perfect way (more than a theory)
I begin dreaming (more than a theory)
Of a world where pure science holds sway

I'll have my science world ruling the day

-SteveD

Nigel Stapley

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:08:32 AM11/6/09
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Applause!

Large Dave

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:45:10 AM11/6/09
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<smiles> Well done!

John Wilkins

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:34:52 AM11/6/09
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SteveD

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Nov 6, 2009, 11:51:12 AM11/6/09
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:34:52 -0500, John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au>
wrote:

>http://evolvingthoughts.net/2009/11/06/more-than-a-theory-lyrics/

Heh. If I'd known it was going to get blogged, I would have put more than
a couple of minutes into it. Probably added something about the cosmic
microwave background spectrum curve...


-SteveD

John Wilkins

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In article <0pk8f51eg6r5h4uv8...@4ax.com>, SteveD
<use...@vo.id.au> wrote:

You are getting enough kudos for this as it is. Don't be greedy... you
make the rest of us look dull.

Lesley Weston

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:21:30 PM11/6/09
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Not a very effective one.

Lesley Weston

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:22:54 PM11/6/09
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I thought they were "The Mothers of Invention"?

steveski

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:35:35 PM11/6/09
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SteveD wrote:

What rhymes with "lumpy"? :-)

--
Steveski

steveski

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:37:58 PM11/6/09
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Lesley Weston wrote:

> Nigel Stapley wrote:
>> steveski wrote:
>>> John Wilkins wrote:


>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems to be completely arbitrary. There is a possibility that
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> don't bother with anything under $50, but this is just a tentative
>>>>>>>> hypothesis.
>>>>>>> "Tentative Hypothesis" would be a great name for a rock band.
>>>>>> Who open for "Scientific Method".
>>>>> I was in a band called The Rhythm Method [1]
>>>> Also known as the Mothers?
>>>
>>> Heh. Some people called us *something* like that :-)
>>>
>>
>> Well, that's what "The Mothers" was actually short for, until their
>> record company made them change it.
>>
> I thought they were "The Mothers of Invention"?

That's what the record company changed it ("Mothers") *to*.

--
Steveski

Nigel Stapley

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:25:55 PM11/6/09
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John Wilkins wrote:
> In article <iMSdnUMgpIP_Vm7X...@brightview.co.uk>, Nigel
> Stapley <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote:

<snip what is probably the Filk Of The Year by SteveD>

>> Applause!
>
> Indeed. I even stole it:
>
> http://evolvingthoughts.net/2009/11/06/more-than-a-theory-lyrics/

I say, that's a good idea!

http://www.thejudge.me.uk/Raves/Raves.htm#06_11_09

SteveD

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Nov 7, 2009, 8:56:40 AM11/7/09
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:25:55 +0000, Nigel Stapley
<un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote:

>http://www.thejudge.me.uk/Raves/Raves.htm#06_11_09

Gleep! Now I REALLY wish I'd polished it a bit!

Heh. A peril of instafilk - that it will persist on an internet archive
somewhere long after agonisingly-crafted works have been long forgotten.
:)


-SteveD

Nigel Stapley

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:47:54 AM11/7/09
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SteveD wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:25:55 +0000, Nigel Stapley
> <un...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.thejudge.me.uk/Raves/Raves.htm#06_11_09
>
> Gleep! Now I REALLY wish I'd polished it a bit!
>

Nonsense. It works pretty damn well as it stands.

Lesley Weston

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:32:46 AM11/7/09
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And the extra meaning was just a happy coincidence?

Nigel Stapley

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Nov 7, 2009, 1:42:19 PM11/7/09
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Lesley Weston wrote:
> steveski wrote:
>> Lesley Weston wrote:
>>
>>> Nigel Stapley wrote:
>>>> steveski wrote:
>>>>> John Wilkins wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It seems to be completely arbitrary. There is a possibility that
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> don't bother with anything under $50, but this is just a
>>>>>>>>>> tentative
>>>>>>>>>> hypothesis.
>>>>>>>>> "Tentative Hypothesis" would be a great name for a rock band.
>>>>>>>> Who open for "Scientific Method".
>>>>>>> I was in a band called The Rhythm Method [1]
>>>>>> Also known as the Mothers?
>>>>> Heh. Some people called us *something* like that :-)
>>>>>
>>>> Well, that's what "The Mothers" was actually short for, until their
>>>> record company made them change it.
>>>>
>>> I thought they were "The Mothers of Invention"?
>>
>> That's what the record company changed it ("Mothers") *to*.
>>
> And the extra meaning was just a happy coincidence?
>

The band refered to themselves as "The Motherfsckers", because
"motherfscker" was slang (at least amongst musicians in L.A.) for "damn
good musician".

They shortened it to "The Mothers" for public consumption.

When they signed to their record company (Verve/MGM), the company
insisted that they changed it to "The Mothers Of Invention" to try to
avoid the association.

Lesley Weston

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:01:23 PM11/8/09
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Yes. I meant the reference to a back-up band being a necessity.

Richard Bos

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:20:22 AM11/10/09
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SteveD <use...@vo.id.au> wrote:

> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:25:55 +0000, Nigel Stapley
>

> >http://www.thejudge.me.uk/Raves/Raves.htm#06_11_09
>
> Gleep! Now I REALLY wish I'd polished it a bit!

Hey, at least unpolished it looks more like the original!

Richard

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