Re: Crazy Congressman
Bill Anderson
> Blue <blues...@windstream.net> found these unused words:
>
>> On Oct 3, 10:02 pm, TB <tsbru...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>> Has a Congressman or woman ever gone insane?
>> Everday and twiced on Sunday!
>
> "Twiced" ???
>
> [BTW - it's nearly a requirement of the position.]
>
Not from the South, are you?
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John F. Eldredge
> Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
>> Blue <blues...@windstream.net> found these unused words:
>>
>>> On Oct 3, 10:02 pm, TB <tsbru...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>> Has a Congressman or woman ever gone insane?
>>> Everday and twiced on Sunday!
>>
>> "Twiced" ???
>>
>> [BTW - it's nearly a requirement of the position.]
>>
>>
> Not from the South, are you?
I have spent my entire life in the South (Alabama, Kentucky, and
Tennessee, plus some visits elsewhere in the South), and don't remember
ever hearing anyone say "twiced". It must be particular to some small
region of the South.
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Bill Anderson
> On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:01:57 -0400, Bill Anderson wrote:
>
>> Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
>>> Blue <blues...@windstream.net> found these unused words:
>>>
>>>> On Oct 3, 10:02 pm, TB <tsbru...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>>> Has a Congressman or woman ever gone insane?
>>>> Everday and twiced on Sunday!
>>> "Twiced" ???
>>>
>>> [BTW - it's nearly a requirement of the position.]
>>>
>>>
>> Not from the South, are you?
>
> I have spent my entire life in the South (Alabama, Kentucky, and
> Tennessee, plus some visits elsewhere in the South), and don't remember
> ever hearing anyone say "twiced". It must be particular to some small
> region of the South.
>
Well I'm from Memphis and the colloquialism "everday and twiced on
Sunday" is very familiar to me. When I've seen it in print, "twice" is
usually spelled "twicet," which used to puzzle me, as I'd misread it
with two syllables: "twi-cet." I actually think the spelling "twiced"
works better. But you gotta flatten that i. Maybe "everday 'n twahst
awn Sundie" sounds familiar? No? OK, never mind.
John F. Eldredge
I have spent the last 33 years in Nashville, and haven't heard it here,
so maybe this is a Central Tennessee vs. West Tennessee dialect issue. I
have heard the saying, but pronounced "twice", not "twiced" or "twicet".
Count Floyd
Bill Anderson
Nope. But when I lived in Nashville I got fan mail.
Anim8rFSK
Bill Anderson <billand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From some flounder?
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Bill Anderson
> On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:40:49 -0400, Bill Anderson wrote:
>
>> John F. Eldredge wrote:
>>> On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:01:57 -0400, Bill Anderson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
>>>>> Blue <blues...@windstream.net> found these unused words:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 3, 10:02 pm, TB <tsbru...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>>>>> Has a Congressman or woman ever gone insane?
>>>>>> Everday and twiced on Sunday!
>>>>> "Twiced" ???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> I have spent my entire life in the South (Alabama, Kentucky, and
>>> Tennessee, plus some visits elsewhere in the South), and don't remember
>>> ever hearing anyone say "twiced". It must be particular to some small
>>> region of the South.
>>>
>>>
>> Well I'm from Memphis and the colloquialism "everday and twiced on
>> Sunday" is very familiar to me. When I've seen it in print, "twice" is
>> usually spelled "twicet," which used to puzzle me, as I'd misread it
>> with two syllables: "twi-cet." I actually think the spelling "twiced"
>> works better. But you gotta flatten that i. Maybe "everday 'n twahst
>> awn Sundie" sounds familiar? No? OK, never mind.
>
> I have spent the last 33 years in Nashville, and haven't heard it here,
> so maybe this is a Central Tennessee vs. West Tennessee dialect issue. I
> have heard the saying, but pronounced "twice", not "twiced" or "twicet".
>
"Twicet" is the spelling most often used, I think, as is "oncet." But
again, after seeing "twiced" I think that spelling just works better. I
can't stop mentally pronouncing them "one-cet" and "twi-cet" when
spelled oncet and twicet. You get the final "t" sound with either
spelling, but for me at least there's no temptation to pronounce two
syllables when I see "onced."
Are you still questioning whether people in your area add a "t" to those
words? You bet they do. It seems to me you need to listen more
carefully to the speech patterns of people in rural areas around you.
Thirty-three years in Nyeshville and yet you say "Central Tennessee"
instead of "Middle Tennessee?" My mother's from Hohenwald and I
graduated from college in Nashville and I'm telling you that many in
your parts pronounce "twice" and "once" with the sound of a "t" at the
end. Ask around. Listen. (Maybe you've been hanging out with the
wrong crowd all these years?) :-)
And those pronunciations aren't limited only to certain parts of
Tennessee. Here's something from the letters of Mark Twain:
There was an old woman in our town,
In our town did dwell,
She loved her husband dearily
But another man twicet as well,
Another man twicet as well . . .
http://www.marktwainproject.org/xtf/view?docId=letters/MTLN00114.xml%3Bstyle=letter
How about Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath?"
“Maybe you never seen Uncle John the time they baptized him . . .jumped
over a feeny bush as big as a piana. Over he’d jump, an’ back he’d jump
. . .Well, Pa seen him, an’ Pa figgers he’s the be’ Jesus-jumper in
these parts. So Pa picks out a feeny bush ‘bout twicet as big as Uncle
John’s feeny bush . . an’ he takes a run at that feeny bush an’ clears
her an’ bust his right leg. That took the sperit out of Pa. Preacher
wants to pray to set, but Pa says, no, by God, he’d got his heart full
of havin’ a doctor. Well, they wasn’t a doctor, but they was a travelin’
dentist, an’ he set her.”
From "English in the Southern United States:"
Similarly, the retention of the t with final s or f in items such as
oncet, twicet, and clifft in a number of enclave communities is
obviously related to the retention of a dialect trait transplanted from
the British Isles that has now disappeared from other varieties.
There are plenty more examples to be found. Hope I got that acrost.
Bill Anderson
Why yes! It came in a bottle.