US cover for Skies of Pern
Sariel
http://www.annemccaffrey.org/BookPages/SkiesofPernUSbc.html
I'm not impressed with the recent trend of book covers from Del Rey
(paperback version of Nimisha's Ship, Pegasus in Space and new covers for
the other Pegasus books, and now this one). They've gotten away from
"scenes" and instead gone with more representational art instead. This
new Pern cover looks more like a Danielle Steele cover!
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Sariel the Master Archivist (aka Cheryl in 'real life')
reply to: cheryl at srellim.org
http://www.srellim.org/pern
Jim Doolittle
<che...@ihatespam.srellimdotorg> wrote:
> http://www.annemccaffrey.org/BookPages/SkiesofPernUSbc.html
Eh.
How...mainstream-fiction looking. Boring, in other words.
-Jim
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Neva
Jim Doolittle wrote:
Ditto from this corner. But I wonder if maybe it isn't cheaper for them
to get something like this compared to a full-blown Whelan painting...
Taki Kogoma
to alt.fan.pern decree...
>The US cover for Skies of Pern has been posted at Anne's new site now.
>http://www.annemccaffrey.org/BookPages/SkiesofPernUSbc.html
Ick!
Ick ick ick ick ick!!!
>I'm not impressed with the recent trend of book covers from Del Rey
>(paperback version of Nimisha's Ship, Pegasus in Space and new covers for
>the other Pegasus books, and now this one). They've gotten away from
>"scenes" and instead gone with more representational art instead. This
>new Pern cover looks more like a Danielle Steele cover!
Where's Michael Whelan when we need him? ;-)
This bodes not well for McCaffrey in my eyes. The last time an author
I was fond of had cover art go from 'scene' to 'abstract', it was
Feist's serpentwar series, which pretty much ended my interest in his
future work. :-/
Gym "Muttering under his breath about which of his favorite authors
will next fall victim to abstract cover art..." Quirk
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Jim Doolittle
wrote:
>
> Ditto from this corner. But I wonder if maybe it isn't cheaper for them
> to get something like this compared to a full-blown Whelan painting...
Undoubtedly. That cover is but a moments work for a decent designer, as
opposed to a lot of work for a serious painter.
While I don't know if this has anything to do with it, Michael Whelan
was diagnosed with prostrate cancer, earlier this year. He was operated
on in May, and evidently hasn't done much painting since. Recovering
well, though. http://www.glassonion.com/info/getwellsoon.htm
Scott L
On 13-Aug-2000, Neva <ne...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> > How...mainstream-fiction looking. Boring, in other words.
> >
> > -Jim
>
> Ditto from this corner. But I wonder if maybe it isn't cheaper for them
> to get something like this compared to a full-blown Whelan painting...
It's downright ugly compared to *all* of the current covers. I wonder
if they're trying to drive potential new readers away - the kind that
get interested by the cover, then find out just how good the story
really is?
Just a monkey(whistling innocently),
Scott
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<snip>
: Where's Michael Whelan when we need him? ;-)
: This bodes not well for McCaffrey in my eyes. The last time an author
: I was fond of had cover art go from 'scene' to 'abstract', it was
: Feist's serpentwar series, which pretty much ended my interest in his
: future work. :-/
: Gym "Muttering under his breath about which of his favorite authors
: will next fall victim to abstract cover art..." Quirk
--> As much as I love Michael Whelan's art and woould always prefer
his work on books I'm about to read; one perhaps should remember
the `judging-book-by-cover' ol' saw and hope the crappy art (to
save money, undoubtedly) does not reflect a crappy story. I'll
read whatever she puts out, if I find a quick overview of the
story line interests me and/or if it's a continuation of a
`universe' I've come to enjoy and damn the cover art. One can
always pick-up the book, gingerly, holding one's nose against
the stench of poor (or poorly presented) cover art. T'is the
meat inside that draws me in - the chance to spend some time
in a fondly remembered and appreciated universe . . .
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Elrhan
they'll use it for the US paperback, too (then the awful one can be reserved
for the hardcover if they really want to use it).
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Taki Kogoma
to alt.fan.pern decree...
Heh. You want to talk about enjoyable contents with horrid cover art,
just look at what Baen ddi to Bujold and Weber. ;-)
Again, I'm just noting that the last time I observed a publisher shift
an author from scene to abstract cover art, it was coincidental with
that author entering a decline in writing quality.
Gym "Actually, the cover art won't be that much of a problem for me if I
purchase the book in hardcover, as I tend to discard dust jackets
anyway." Quirk
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Judy Trummer
Um.. at least it hasn't got a horribly ugly dragon a la First Fall etc.
Isn't Whelan back doing covers *yet*? Sigh..
Neva (ne...@neo.rr.com) wrote:
: Jim Doolittle wrote:
: > In article <HHul5.41490$eS6.7...@news1.rdc1.md.home.com>, "Sariel"
: > <che...@ihatespam.srellimdotorg> wrote:
: >
: > > http://www.annemccaffrey.org/BookPages/SkiesofPernUSbc.html
: >
: > Eh.
: >
: > How...mainstream-fiction looking. Boring, in other words.
: >
: > -Jim
: >
: > --
: > Jim Doolittle CornWuff Press
: > dool...@tbcnet.com http://www.cornwuff.com
: > Art Show Director, Midwest FurFest
: > http://www.furfest.org
: Ditto from this corner. But I wonder if maybe it isn't cheaper for them
whodunit
Carolyne in TX
Sariel wrote:
>
> The US cover for Skies of Pern has been posted at Anne's new site now.
> http://www.annemccaffrey.org/BookPages/SkiesofPernUSbc.html
>
> I'm not impressed with the recent trend of book covers from Del Rey
> (paperback version of Nimisha's Ship, Pegasus in Space and new covers for
> the other Pegasus books, and now this one). They've gotten away from
> "scenes" and instead gone with more representational art instead. This
> new Pern cover looks more like a Danielle Steele cover!
>
Janet Dornhoff, DVM
>
> Undoubtedly. That cover is but a moments work for a decent designer, as
> opposed to a lot of work for a serious painter.
As if the Pern series isn't making enough money that they could
afford whoever they wanted for a cover...
> While I don't know if this has anything to do with it, Michael Whelan
> was diagnosed with prostate cancer, earlier this year. He was operated
> on in May, and evidently hasn't done much painting since. Recovering
> well, though. http://www.glassonion.com/info/getwellsoon.htm
Sorry to hear it. If I'd read this before GenCon instead of just
after, I'd have checked whether he was there or if a booth of his
art was there, and passed on best wishes.
I'd also have looked more closely at who did good dragon paintings.
If Whelan can't do it, someone else should! Other than Robin Wood,
who is the Pern Painting Goddess, off the top of my head I could
picture Elmore doing one, as long as we didn't let him paint any
people. (Or let someone else put clothes on the women after he's
done. ;-)
Darn, there was some good stuff at the Art Show. Should have taken
notes!
-Janet <dorn...@prairienet.org>
The trailer for the Dungeons & Dragons movie looks fantastic!!!
I8NTRT
any bad remarks i might of thought
R'ndal rider of Bronze Sayranth
Anne
coming out until next April . . . could we not stage a protest? I
collect the hard cover editions to the Pern series, and I can't imagine
this cover on my bookshelf next to all the others!
Let's protest! Who shall we mail? the publisher? Anne?
What do you think?
Michelle Louise DENNIS
*love* them. Anyone know if it's possible to buy prints/posters of these?
I've looked, but never found. Watch Michelle pout.
Michelle
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Janet Dornhoff, DVM wrote:
> Jim Doolittle wrote:
> >
> > Undoubtedly. That cover is but a moments work for a decent designer, as
> > opposed to a lot of work for a serious painter.
>
François Labarbarie
3998C1FC...@earthlink.net...
Alec Johnson wrote me back after I asked him to make a poll about this US
cover and to send the results to Del Rey. He said I was not the first to
express concern, and that he would relay these concerns to the publisher.
That should be important enough to make the publisher think I guess :) What?
The author doesn't like it, the author's manager and son doesn't like it,
fans doesn't like it, and reader probably won't like it. If it is not enough
for them, what would be??? I just don't understand why they even thought
this cover would give justice to Anne's book...
Francois
Sariel
> Anne a écrit dans le message :
> cover and to send the results to Del Rey. He said I was not the first to
> express concern, and that he would relay these concerns to the publisher.
> That should be important enough to make the publisher think I guess :)
What?
> The author doesn't like it, the author's manager and son doesn't like it,
> fans doesn't like it, and reader probably won't like it. If it is not
enough
> for them, what would be??? I just don't understand why they even thought
> this cover would give justice to Anne's book...
The more of us who actually contact the publisher (Del Rey) ourselves, the
more likely they are to listen. It won't come through nearly as strong for
Alec to say he's heard from concerned fans. Likewise an actual letter would
carry more weight than an email. It just shows you're concerned enough to
take the time to let them know.
g.bamborough
might have to wait to see what corgi put out instead of getting it early
whodunit <pill...@airmail.net> wrote in message
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> Ick, hate it.
>
> Carolyne in TX
>
> Sariel wrote:
> >
> > The US cover for Skies of Pern has been posted at Anne's new site now.
> > http://www.annemccaffrey.org/BookPages/SkiesofPernUSbc.html
> >
> > I'm not impressed with the recent trend of book covers from Del Rey
> > (paperback version of Nimisha's Ship, Pegasus in Space and new covers
for
> > the other Pegasus books, and now this one). They've gotten away from
> > "scenes" and instead gone with more representational art instead.
This
> > new Pern cover looks more like a Danielle Steele cover!
> >
Michelle McGarrity
: I'm not impressed with the recent trend of book covers from Del Rey
: (paperback version of Nimisha's Ship, Pegasus in Space and new covers for
: the other Pegasus books, and now this one). They've gotten away from
: "scenes" and instead gone with more representational art instead. This
: new Pern cover looks more like a Danielle Steele cover!
I've finally gotten a chance to look at the covers, and the UK one is much
better than the US one. I agree, it does look like a Danielle Steele
cover. A good cover can pull in new readers while a crappy one makes
people throw it back. While the old adage is true, i know for one, a book
with an interesting cover makes me pick it up, and read the back. I
ignore a crappy one.
--
Michelle McGarrity
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"I just have to find a way to regulate the gas so it doesn't blow up"
- Bob talking about the bar-b-que he wants to build
François Labarbarie
> more likely they are to listen. It won't come through nearly as strong
for
> Alec to say he's heard from concerned fans. Likewise an actual letter
would
> carry more weight than an email. It just shows you're concerned enough to
> take the time to let them know.
>
> Sariel the Master Archivist (aka Cheryl in 'real life')
> reply to: cheryl at srellim.org
> http://www.srellim.org/pern
Do we have any mailing adress we can use for that?
If someone has it, please post it.
Francois
RUSS L HELFER
well...ok...so i looked at the new cover...and if i didn't know that there
would be great stuff inside...i'd not even give it a second look at the
bookstore...hopefully that won't be the real cover...
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Sariel
the
> > more likely they are to listen. It won't come through nearly as strong
for
> > Alec to say he's heard from concerned fans. Likewise an actual letter
> > would carry more weight than an email. It just shows you're concerned
> > enough to take the time to let them know.
>
> If someone has it, please post it.
The address on their website is:
Del Rey Books
201 East 50th St.
NY, NY 10022 USA
Dwight Hardin
at the bottom of the page you can fill out the comment section
Val
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Paul Bolchover
Dwight Hardin <dha...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>You can go to http://www.randomhouse.com/delrey/ then click on 'write to us'
>at the bottom of the page you can fill out the comment section
>Val
But bear in mind that extra weight will be placed on paper letters, since they
show that you feel strongly enough about the subject to spend extra time
writing in.
Likewise, you should write in _individually_, not as part of a joint petition.
Paul Bolchover
Altarielle
>Other than Robin Wood,
>who is the Pern Painting Goddess, off the top of my head I could
>picture Elmore doing one, as long as we didn't let him paint any
>people. (Or let someone else put clothes on the women after he's
>done. ;-)
At DragonCon, Larry Elmore, giving advice to aspiring artists, noted that the
first portfolio should be full of complete works, not the "parts that are most
fun to draw." :-)
Todd Lockwood did a nice looking dragon for the Dragonlance 15th Anniversary
classics. I'd like to see his rendition of Mnementh.
>The trailer for the Dungeons & Dragons movie looks fantastic!!!
Do you know if you guys at Gen Con got an updated trailer? The one shown at
DragonCon had a rather rubbery looking beastie, with the background dragons in
flight looking like King Vultan's hawkmen.
Altarielle
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Janet Dornhoff, DVM
>
> "Janet Dornhoff, DVM" wrote:
>
> At DragonCon, Larry Elmore, giving advice to aspiring artists, noted that the
> first portfolio should be full of complete works, not the "parts that are most
> fun to draw." :-)
He clearly thinks that applies only to the *first* portfolio! ;-)
> >The trailer for the Dungeons & Dragons movie looks fantastic!!!
>
> Do you know if you guys at Gen Con got an updated trailer? The one shown at
> DragonCon had a rather rubbery looking beastie, with the background dragons in
> flight looking like King Vultan's hawkmen.
The trailer we saw was the one from Cannes, which they repeatedly pointed
out was five months old now and they'd been working mostly on the effects
since then. Yeah, the dragons in the sky was the one the cast were most
sorry we couldn't see the finished version of.
-Janet <dorn...@prairienet.org>
"It was a bad call, Ripley, a bad call!"
Other
> I'd also have looked more closely at who did good dragon paintings.
> If Whelan can't do it, someone else should! Other than Robin Wood,
> who is the Pern Painting Goddess, off the top of my head I could
> picture Elmore doing one, as long as we didn't let him paint any
> people. (Or let someone else put clothes on the women after he's
> done. ;-)
>
Unfortunately, Robin Wood has devolped Fybromynagia (sp?) and has been
unable to do much painting herself. She has instead started doing computer
graphics and writing.
--
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ring a bell?
Tosus
"Sariel" <che...@ihatespam.srellimdotorg> wrote in message
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> > > The more of us who actually contact the publisher (Del Rey) ourselves,
> the
> > > more likely they are to listen. It won't come through nearly as
strong
> for
> > > Alec to say he's heard from concerned fans. Likewise an actual letter
> > > would carry more weight than an email. It just shows you're concerned
> > > enough to take the time to let them know.
> >
> > Do we have any mailing adress we can use for that?
> > If someone has it, please post it.
>
> The address on their website is:
> Del Rey Books
> 201 East 50th St.
> NY, NY 10022 USA
>
My precise first reaction to seeing the cover was: "Eww, it's hideous!"
It's truly a step backward, in my mind, from the terrific Whelan covers, or
even the decent Rowena and pretty-good Brom cover. It wouldn't necessarily
be that bad, if it were at least a *good* abstract cover. But this one seems
like something the publisher's eight-year-old son came up with. (no offense
to the publishers eight-year-old son intended.)
I think I will write to the publisher, since I can just as easily get the
British edition. I'll simply threaten not to buy it from them (in gentle
terms, of course).
Anne should know as well as anyone the selling power of a good cover. Look
at The White Dragon, whose selling power she's often attributed to the
Whelan cover.
Tosus, Journeyman Who Hopes That Del Rey Will Have A Change Of Art, Er,
Heart.
Baxter Michael Gilley
few(some fo the pegasus books come to mind). It would look, shall I say,
hmm.. looking for words here that havent been said.. ahh well <insert
negative beauty word here>.
--
Bax
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Baxter Michael Gilley
a letter will do just nicely.
--
Bax
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