CogoWatch: 4/24/98 - The Epitaph of a Clown
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This is a CogoWatch Special Edition: The Epitaph of a Clown.
Cogo has had nothing whatsoever to say lately. No reply to
any of the issues facing him. But that doesn't mean we're
sitting back, idly twiddling our thumbs here at CogoWatch.
We've got more substance than ever to talk about today.
I received a request from a reader the other day, to do a little
examination of Cogo's supposed background. Here it is:
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Dear Editor,
As a charter subscriber to your publication, I would like to ask a favor.
Perhaps you can help me with a small Cogo question. (Yeah, I know; what
other kind could there be...) Shortly after his first appearance here,
Cogy mentioned that he had once been a policeman. He also mentioned a
number of other things. The other things he wrote aren't actually
relevant (duuhhhh); I only mention them because they pretty much forced me
to a certain conclusion about his police career. It just popped totally
unprovoked into my mind: "No wonder they fired this stupid bastard!"
So here's my problem. I referred to the fired ex-cop as "the fired
ex-cop" the first time I bothered to even mention him. He responded to
that within a few days. What he said was "I suggest you withdraw that
statement" and a few other things like that. This actually caused chills
to run up and down my spine for about 25 minutes. I couldn't get his
minatory tone out of my mind. Okay, I was scared shitless.
Please help. Could you have one of your reporters ask him what's up? Did
he forget? Did he fail in an attempt to find me? Did he get spooked by a
'possum or something? Is he a pussy, a dumbshit, a lamer...?
Yrs. Worriedly,
jg.
P.S. Find out why they fired him. (Just make up something, if you
prefer, or ask me for my theory.)
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That started me thinking about Cogo's claims to have been a cop. I didn't
really pay any attention to them at the time he spouted them, other than
scoffing at them. What I knew of Cogo then was that he was just some
simpleton being publicly humiliated on a regular basis. I went back in time
and looked at Cogo's statements to us. One thing led to another. I read all
his posts, from roughly the middle of February to when he started tangling
with me. And what I uncovered was a veritable gold mine, not in the content
of the crap he spewed all over AFOJS, but in taking a look at the disparity
between what Cogo PREACHES, and then what he PRACTICES.
In reviewing all of Cogo's posts to the forum, I was truly amazed. I
always said Cogo was a worthless, lying hypocrite, but didn't realize the
depth of this statement until I examined ALL his posts for the stuff I didn't
catch wind of. It was like saying "The Grand Canyon is a hole in the
ground." It doesn't convey the truly incredible sight one beholds when
standing at the rim gazing across it.
Frankly, I also didn't realize how big an asshole this clown is until I
examined the entirety of his behavioral patterns. I mean, I always thought
that about him, but once again was shocked by the enormous accuracy of this
description, and what an understatement labeling him with this single word
really is.
So, I analyzed all Cogo's claims and got the full picture of the nine
weeks or so he's wasted here. All Pro-J's follow a certain format and
pattern, and Cogo is absolutely no different. He's just another
butcher-worshipper created with a cookie-cutter. His tactics were
threefold:
1. Lifting lies from pro-defense books to substitute for the small
number of arguments he's tried to make.
2. When this ran out he incessantly repeated the same tripe he saw the
other pro-murderers babbling.
3. And last but not least he has employed hypocritical standards and
judgements that never apply to himself, or those he approves of.
Readers, you'd better get comfortable. Get a cup of coffee or a bagel (or
a box of doughnuts, if you're hyeguy). This is going to take a while,
discussing the tremendous volume of material I'm hereby using to completely
destroy Cogo once and for all. The figurative crosshairs are placed right
between the clown's eyes, and all he can do is stare back blankly and wait.
This is the equivalent of the hydrogen bomb being dropped on Hiroshima.
Cogo is being checkmated, bagged and tagged, and dumped on a slab.
First things first. Let's start with the coverage of the cop issue.
COGO, ON CLAIMING TO HAVE BEEN A POLICE OFFICER:
On 2/18/98 Cogo wrote:
"I worked for the Yolo County District Attorneys P.I.P program,
(Positive Interaction with Peers) for a couple of years, as well as
with the Davis Police Departments Child Abuse Unit."
(Cogo also said he was a grandfather of two, which would lend credence
to his statement that he was born in 1949, which THEN turns around and
lends credence to the fact he's a draft-dodging traitor who refused
to serve in the Vietnam War.)
On 3/3/98:
"I left the police department back in 87 when I moved back to
Fullerton, Ca. I went to work for an old friend that opened a
wholesale plumbing supply company and manage one of his branches."
Cogo makes a couple of simple statements here and in the above post
dated 2/18. In other posts he makes references to his "experiences"
as a cop, on domestic abuse cases and in courtroom dramas. However,
there's nothing in any of them to even remotely suggest he's telling the
truth. He gives a minimal amount of detail anybody could get from reading
detective magazines, watching movies, or even tuning into "COPS."
Furthermore, he slanders police officers and departments in a manner I doubt
any true cop ever would.
UNLESS he had a reason to be bitter towards law enforcement officials.
Maybe he's got a bone to pick with a police department somewhere? Notice
his words: "I left the police department..." Left? Or "was fired from?"
Then he goes on to tell us he now manages a plumbing supply company.
I don't mean to turn this into an occupation-based flame, but that's not
a very glorious career for a "retired" police officer, doing work any
untrained grunt could perform. Did he gravitate to this position by
choice, or out of desperation? See how he says his friend got the job
for him?
Here's what Cogo said when he was referred to as a fired cop:
On 3/5/98 Cogo spat:
"Griffin, I could care less what you believe or don't believe in, that
will be between you and God someday. What I do care about is someone
who knows absolutely nothing about me making statements such as I was
fired from the PD. I resent that sort of garbage. If you want to
disagree with my opinions, that's your choice, but you nor anyone else
on here has any right to make statements that are totally false, and
also have no right changing the words I write for your amusement."
And in another post he ranted:
"If there is any "bs" being spread around here, it's you, not me
spreading it. Care to post some offer of proof as to your claim that I
was fired? Otherwise, I suggest you retract your comment."
So, we've got a statement from Cogo insisting it's not true, then
demanding proof to indicate otherwise. Or else the poster should
retract that information, he snaps. Remember this, readers! This
will be referred to again further on down.
Getting back to the issue, if Cogo really is a former cop, which
I doubt, I do find many reasons to conclude he left the department
in a rather negative manner. Look at how sensitive he is about the
matter. Gee, just like when someone asks him if he's a draft-dodger.
So, in reference to your query, John, I'd say referring to the clown
as "the fired ex-cop" may not be without it's merits. (And, in
reference to your question: "Is he a pussy, a dumbshit, a lamer?"
I'd have to answer "All three, of course." ;-) To conclude my
observations of the matter, either Cogo lied about being a cop or
he was a failure in his role as one. I'd be interested in hearing
other readers' thoughts on this.
But let's give Cogo the chance to explain himself. Got anything
to say about this one, Cogo? Let's throw this issue on top of the
heap of things Cogo has to address; Al Walker's alleged Judaism,
Cogo's responsibility to criticize hyeguy for posting with multiple
identities, and the matter of Cogo's "military service" during the
Vietnam era. 1968 was an extremely bloody year for our troops in
'Nam. Cogo was 19, according to his admission. Why didn't he allow
himself to be sent to Southeast Asia?
Now that we've examined the police officer issue, let's move right
along to the things I brought with me here to present-day when I did
my time-traveling search all the way back to February.
A long-running theme in my discussion of Cogo's behavior has been
the subject of providing evidence. We have seen Cogo demanding proof
from his opponents. That shows that ALL ALONG he has ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD
such a protocol exists despite a pretense to the contrary when convenient
for him.
Here are some MORE instances where he expressed this understanding.
COGO, ON THE ISSUE OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING PROOF:
2/26/98
"And just exactly what is your proof that he doesn't have
investigators working on it? If you can't provide proof that there
aren't then you're admitting that he's doing what he said he was
going to do."
So according to Cogo people who don't prove their opponents wrong
lose the argument and admit the other side is right. Again, please
remember this for future reference.
3/8/98
"And what testimony or proof was offered to show this?
3/11/98
"Now if there was proof of this, don't you think you
would have seen it in that courtroom?"
"Where was the proof that Kathleen Bell was a liar?"
But THEN, when COGO is the one who's asked for proof, watch his response.
He rants, he raves, he whines, he cries, and he sobs, but he NEVER even
attempts to comply with his responsibility. Nor has he to this day, as I
have repeatedly pointed out. Here he is in action. He turns right around
and says:
4/6/98
"It's public record, get off your fat butt and go look it up."
"Clono, get one thing straight. I'm not yours nor Egans personal
secretary. You have as much access to PUBLIC RECORDS as I do. I'm not
here to do YOUR leg work. Nor do I really care what you believe or
don't believe. I'm not about to let you dictate what I post or don't
post. If you want to read the transcripts of Britton's case against
Fuhrman, go find it. Don't expect me to do your leg work since I don't
really care if you believe it or not."
"You're not going to get what you're hoping for. I am not about to go
pull down the articles and post them here..."
"You can make your claims that there are no articles on the web
concerning Britton and Egan make his claims about Bailey never had a
phone conversation with Shapiro about the polygraph, but those claims
don't make them any the less true. Anyone with knowledge about the
case knows they're both true, so you idiots continue on with your
personal vendetta against me if you choose to. I really don't care..."
To make matters worse, Cogo deliberately ignored requests for proof,
and then turned right around and made MORE OF HIS OWN:
4/13/98
"Well since you seem to have the trial transcripts, how about
supporting YOUR claims with some proof."
"Since you seem to have all of this information on the Britton case,
how about proving what you're saying, post the transcripts."
NEVER MIND THAT COGO ONCE SAID THIS:
"Care to post some offer of proof as to your claim that I
was fired? Otherwise, I suggest you retract your comment."
Cogo didn't ever offer any proof. But of course he never retracted
his comments.
AND THIS:
"If you can't provide proof that there aren't then you're admitting
that he's doing what he said he was going to do."
Cogo never provided any proof. But of course he never acknowledged that
by failing to do so he was admitting his opponents were right.
Do we see him tarring himself with that brush he wants to use on everyone
else? Of course not. Never. I've been telling the readers that Cogo feels
that he is exempt from the standards he demands of everyone else. Now I'm
showing you.
But it gets better. It's not just about providing proof. Cogo is a
thoroughly selfish, whiny hypocrite, on any given issue. Let's examine
the matter of forging/altering posts.
COGO ON PEOPLE WHO ALTER POSTS:
3/3/98
"Another thing that is ridiculous in this group is this constant post
altering"
"To me that says that you don't have a valid point, and you're trying
to fool some of us into accepting your claims by doctoring up bogus
posts. Come on, is this really necessary?"
3/5/98
"I don't change or alter your words, I expect the same respect."
3/5/98
"What I don't care for is someone taking my words and changing them.."
"[you] have no right changing the words I write for your amusement."
BUT THEN, on 3/21/98, when accused of forging a post, Cogo said this:
"I simply changed a few words of the original post to state my
feelings on the matter."
So, he's admitted he "changes" words in posts. But Cogo wrote lots
of whining about how the awful No-J's supposedly run around changing
everyone's posts. It's okay for him to do it, naturally. No one else
is permitted.
And to top it off, two weeks later, on 4/5/98 Cogo made this absurd
statement:
"It's sad when people are so threatened by someones words that feel
they have to change them."
I guess Cogo is admitting he was "threatened" by the words he just
felt he had to change two weeks earlier. Do we see him tarring
himself with that brush he wants to use on everyone else? Of course
not. Never.
Now let us look at the name-calling situation, and what Cogo has to
say about it.
COGO, ON PEOPLE WHO CALL EACH OTHER NAMES:
From 2/15/98
"I am all for holding those who misuse it responsible if that would
include people that call others such things as "nazis""anti-semites"
"fags""niggers""cretins""bimbos""bitches""assholes" "morons""idiots"
and any number of other names I've seen used in this newsgroup when
someone disagrees with another. I know for a fact this sort of
behavior isn't acceptable with pacbell since I just read their users
policy agreement. It clearly states that threatening or abusive
language is grounds for cancelling an account. While I can't say for
certain that most other internet providers have similar rules
concerning the use of their systems, I feel it's a pretty good
assumption that they do. So if you're willing to agree that anyone
on this newgroup that has violated those rules should have
appropriate action taken against them then I agree with you 100%."
3/3/98
"But folks this name calling and accusing one another of this or that
only serves to make the person doing it look like a fool."
"I guess what I don't understand is that from time to time most
of these people have put forth some interesting ideas and opinions on
Simpson and other subjects, and appear to be intelligent people. But
that all gets lost when they lower themselves to name calling..."
3/4/98
"Intelligent people don't have to resort to name calling and
character assasination to make a valid point. That is something that
frequently seen when the person doing it has no valid point and is
frustrated and has no legitimate response."
4/1/98
"I have problems addressing people that can't address me in a civil
manner..."
So, Cogo has said he thinks that people who even use tame words
such as "moron" and "idiot" are wrong and that everyone should address
him in a civil manner. But now read some more of his statements:
4/1/98
"Gee, you wouldn't by any chance happen to be the imbecile..."
"Another example of this slimebags bigotry."
"My my, this slimebag can't seem to contain his real agenda in this
newsgroup."
"You're on sick skumbag!"
4/3/98
"No Bunch, you have it wrong, the true moron here is yourself."
"Gee, No mr racist I sure don't. How about leaving your address so I
can pass it along to him. As I've said, I've proved you're a racist
sick moron. Now be a nice Klansman and go wash your sheet, it smells
as bad as you do."
4/4/98
"You've consistently shown that you're only capable of showing what a
low class, foul mouthed, ignorant person you are. You are a total
joke."
4/6/98
"Personally I'm tired of wasting time answering idiots like you and
Egan, so have a field day claiming you beat me. All you've succeeded
in doing is demonstrating what a couple of imbeciles you are."
4/13/98
"You must mean like proving you're a racist idiot? I don't have to
prove that, you've already done it."
So, we have him lowering himself, using the insults that he claims
intelligent people don't have to resort to, insults that make the person
using them look like a fool, insults that show the wielder is frustrated and
has no legitimate response. We also have him referring to others as "moron"
and "idiot" despite his sanctimonious, pious preaching on 2/15/98.
Do we see him tarring himself with that brush he wants to use on everyone
else? Of course not. Never.
Next, Cogo wrote a lot about Mark Fuhrman and how much he hates him, and
how he's so awful, etc. etc. Cogo, of course, being the typical Pro-J,
will parrot ANYTHING from that sick ideology over and over, trying to make
it true. Most of it was crap along the lines of Furhman can't be believed.
Fuhrman's a liar. Fuhrman's a perjurer. Fuhrman can't be trusted. Nothing
Fuhrman says can be true. Fuhrman never tells the truth. Blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah. Straight from Pro-J defense books that told him
what to think.
COGO ON THE ISSUE OF MARK FUHRMAN'S CREDIBILITY:
3/13/98
"Fuhrman also said that anyone who entered that courtroom and said
that he had used the word nigger in the last 10 years was a liar.
Fuhrman also said that he never told VanAtter, Lange and Phillips
about the 1989 incident. So what is it about this statement by
Fuhrman that makes it any more believable than the two he was proven
to have lied about?"
3/16/98
"In reality all we have is Fuhrmans word that there is such a receipt.
And everyone knows how good his word is.R.C."
3/17/98
"Why are you so willing to believe everything this man has to say?
Remember, this is the same that said that anyone who walked into that
courtroom and said they heard him use the word nigger in the last 10
years was a liar. This was the same man that lied when said he never
told VanAtter, Lange or Phillips about the 89 incident. This is the
same man that swore that he was photographed pointing to the glove
after 7:00 a.m. This man is an admitted perjurer. Why on earth are
you so willing to believe everything he writes in a book which he
wrote? What is it that makes you think he now is incapable of
telling a lie?"
"So you believe him [Fuhrman] because he's a proven liar."
3/18/98
"I don't know that even Fuhrman was there. I've only heard him state
that he was, but I don't have a lot of faith in anything he says. The
only thing I've heard him say that I know for a fact is the truth is
that he is a convicted felon. Now that I believe."
BUT Cogo wants us to believe Fuhrman told the truth on the tapes:
"Actually General, after Fuhrmans voice was heard on those tapes the
prosecution realized there was no chance in hell of impeaching anyone
except their own witness, and why bother, he did it with his own
words."
So, Cogo would have you convinced (like all Pro-J's) that EVERYTHING
Mark Fuhrman says is a lie, UNLESS he's recording tapes for a
screenwriter talking about his indulgences in racial acts of police
brutality. That's the ONLY TIME Fuhrman can EVER be trusted, Cogo
bleats.
Never mind the fact Cogo has lied repeatedly, so he himself has zero
credibility. Do we see him tarring himself with that brush he wants to
use on everyone else? Of course not. Never. Which brings us to our
next topic.
COGO, ON THE MATTER OF TRUSTING PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUPPOSEDLY BEEN CAUGHT
IN LIES:
4/6/98
"That in itself makes me wonder then, how can they still believe
Fuhrman, VanAtter, Lange, Mazolla, Martz as well as Clark and Darden.
As I recall it they were all caught in at least one lie."
But Cogo was caught lying when he said that Mrs. Fuhrman called the
Geraldo Rivera show to provide Mark with an alibi. Betty Owens proved
him wrong, and Cogo ran away. Therefore, one would logically conclude
that Cogo must wonder how he can expect anyone to believe him, ever again,
since he's been caught in that lie.
He criticized someone, saying: "So you believe him [Fuhrman] because he's a
proven liar." But of course he doesn't criticize himself. Do we see Cogo
tarring himself with that brush he wants to use on everyone else? Of course
not. Never.
COGO, ON PEOPLE WHO PROCLAIM THEIR INNOCENCE:
3/7/98
"And just how long has it taken you to become the obnoxious loud mouth
that you are? You know Egan, one thing I learned over the years, when
someone continues to harp about how innocent they are after everyone
has dropped the subject and moved, usually indicates they're guilty as
hell."
Not only does this apply to Simpson, who always runs around blathering
"I'm innocent! I'M INNOCENT!" it also applies to Cogo, as well. Do we
see him tarring Simpson OR himself with that brush he wants to use on
everyone else? Of course not. Never.
Now on to some fun stuff I brought here, that shows what a pure fool
Cogo is (as if anybody needed further convincing). It's useful to
put all this material together in one place for massive perusal, to
get a glimpse of the idiotic patterns Cogo finds himself repeatedly
trapped in.
COGO, DISCOVERING HIS LOVE FOR DELETING EVERYTHING HIS OPPONENTS WRITE
AND THEN REPLACING IT WITH A RIDICULOUS, SENSELESS RETORT
In each instance Cogo frantically trimmed away ALL the material except
"So-and-so wrote:" and then responded with:
"nothing of any importance. As usual."
"wasn't important, never will be important to anyone but himself."
"absolutely nothing that anyone but him considers worth the time it
took him to hunt and peck those keys out."
"some more of his of no interest comments."
"a whole lot of nothing."
No substance, style, or bite to them at all. Just the work of a coward
who can't come up with anything better. He doesn't even have a sense
of humor, or the capability to direct decent insults.
Look how he handles people offering caricatures of him.
COGO'S KNEE-JERK RESPONSE TO ANYONE WHO POSTS CLOWN PICTURES MOCKING HIM:
"Now this one definitely has to be a Ron Egan self portrait."
"I love your self-portrait."
"My first impression was it was a self portrait until I realized this
isn't a junior high school kid."
Do I sense a trend here? Does Cogo just blurt "self portrait!" over and over?
He couldn't concoct anything better, the poor, empty-headed clown. That's
part of his ridiculous little "turn the insult around" schtick any pre-
schooler could master.
Early on in his career as a newsgroup clown, Cogo stumbled on the feet of
other Pro-J's before fully learning the rules of his idiotic behavior: always
smooch the asses of anyone who's on your side of the fence. Here's one
instance where he fucked up royally:
COGO ON FELLOW PRO-J MA:
3/9/98
"ma, you are truly disgusting."
Perhaps this is why Cogo hasn't yet run to M.A. begging and pleading for
protection from the No-J's. He's tried everyone else on his side, just
about. He's probably sent numerous e-mails to M.A. proclaiming how sorry
he is.
I also found some hints of future behavior on Cogo's part.
COGO, MAKING PRELIMINARY STEPS TO DEFENDING AL/HYEGUY'S CLAIMS TO BE JEWISH:
3/3/98
"Just a little informational fact. The original Christians were
Jewish."
Same stuff Cogo just vomited recently, trying to stick up for his buddy
hyeguy. He seemed to regret it almost immediately, however. Zey Guy posted
a list of questions for Cogo to look at and answer, if he really wanted to
support Al's insistence that he was Jewish. Cogo, of course, immediately ran
and hid underground, hoping the tornado would pass by, and we have not seen
him since. The tornado is patiently waiting outside the storm cellar for
Cogo to emerge, however.
And now to close, let's see what Cogo had to say about the KKK:
COGO, ON THE KU KLUX KLAN:
3/21/98
"Maybe we should give him [a poster by the name of Klu Klux Klan]
some credit, in that his ideas are not all that bad."
3/22/98
"The KKK are a good kind of group"
Of course Cogo claimed they were forgeries, but he cannot ever be trusted
- BASED ON HIS OWN STATEMENTS - since he's been caught lying. He expects us
not to believe Mark Fuhrman in any scenario whatsoever (EXCEPT on the tapes),
because Fuhrman was proven a liar. So was Cogo. He will finally have to tar
himself with that same brush he's so obsessed with waving at everyone else,
if he ever wants to salvage what's left of his mangled image on AFOJS. He
himself has said that people who don't prove their opponents wrong forfeit the
argument, thereby losing. He must do some work to counter this statement
that issued forth from his mouth.
But that would require courage and maturity. I know Cogo will just shudder
and piss himself some more when he encounters this, if he even has the guts to
click on one of my postings, if he's even on this newsgroup any more. I no
longer expect any responses whatsoever from the destroyed clown, on this or
any other subject I engage him on. I am simply dumping a few more shovelfuls
of dirt down on the clown's grave.
You know, it's funny how Cogo started out on AFOJS with his preaching and
holier-than-thou nonsense, lecturing against name-calling, trying to purport
a sensible, mature image. He posted some of that Christian silliness telling
people to get on their knees asking God for forgiveness, referring to Jesus as
his Savior, and all that. Trying to play the role of someone with all his
hatches safely battened down, in other words. And now he's been shredded,
reduced to a screeching, lying, slumped-over fugitive clown in nine short
weeks. Another one bites the dust. What an accomplishment, Cogo. Do you
have any other tricks for us, or has the circus rolled out of town for good?
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