Subj: Kato's "three thumps" and the moving picture
Omar A.
as "three thumps" on his back wall at about 10:40 pm (later moved up
to 10:50pm) on the night of the murders. There has been much
discussion on the matter and to date no one has presented a plausible
theory (that I've read) on how the thumps were made, especially since
the leaves on the walkway did not appear to be disturbed, no blood was
found and the cobwebs in the area of the air conditioner were intact.
Another problem was Kato's claim that a picture on his wall had moved
when the thumps were made. He had even claimed thinking that an
earthquake had occurred.
Since Dick Wagner recently showed that it would've been rather stupid
for Kato to have tried to toss out the bloody glove from his bathroom
window to the back walkway (per Junot's theory), Kato's claim has
been difficult to explain and difficult to refute.
Here is my theory on the matter.
First, I don't think Kato made up the story of hearing the thumps.
Second, I also do not subscribe to the idea that Kato was the killer
as Junot believes. Third, I don't think that Kato put the glove where
it was found. Finally, I don't believe that O.J. made the thumps
either.
In fact, I believe that someone did indeed make three thumps and these
thumps did in fact make a picture frame on Kato's wall move as a
result without leaving any indication that this occurred. Here's how:
First, a piece of wood (perhaps the size of fence post-1.5 to 3 feet
in length—LIKE THE PIECE OF WOOD/STICK THAT WAS FOUND IN THE AREA),
flat on all sides, was placed (held) against/along the wall. Then,
something was used to strike the wood to make the thumps. Since the
piece of wood covered 1.5 to 3 feet of the wall, the resulting
vibration could have caused the picture frame to move even though it
was not located near the place where Kato thought the thumps were
made.
Also, by using a piece of wood in such a manner, any chipping of
paint/stucco (or other damage) to the wall could be prevented AND,
likewise, the thumps could be made without leaving any evidence on
the walkway.
If true, the glove was planted and the thumps were made to lead
someone to find the glove. Further, this would mean that Dick
Wagner's theory that O.J. was back there after returning from Bundy
(not to mention Marcia's and Petrocelli's respective theories) will
(all) need to be revisited.
Omar A.
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Bob August
account for the reality of the timing when Park saw Kaelin and Simpson.
We know that a great amount of force was needed to make the picture on
the wall to almost fall off. When the defense investigators banged on
the outside of the wall standing on the south path, the picture did not
move. When the investigators banged on the wall inside of Kaelin's room,
the picture did not move. When the investigators tried slamming into the
wall standing on the south path, there was not enough room between the
wall and the fence to generate enough motion and force to make the
picture move.
The force that was great enough to almost knock the picture off was
caused by Simpson jumping from the top of his fence to the path. Once
again because of the limited space between the wall and the fence,
Simpson's body most likely slammed into the wall as he landed causing
the picture on the other side to almost fall off.
Kaelin told how he was sitting on his bed with his back against the head
board, while talking on the phone. Kaelin explained how he felt the
vibrations against his back. He told how the noises migrated across the
wall, in the direction down the south path towards the gates.
Kaelin never really believed that the cause of the noises was an
earthquake. He only asked Rachel that because he did not want to believe
that someone was behind his room.
After hearing the noises, Kaelin finished his phone conversation, looked
for and found a small flashlight, and exited his room. He walked around
the house past the Ashford gate. Allan Park was waiting at the Ashford
gate and first saw Kaelin and then almost immediately saw Simpson walk
up to his front door and enter his house.
That is because it took Simpson about the same amount of time to walk
down the south path and around to his driveway, eventually walking up to
his front door, as it took Kaelin to finish his phone conversation, find
a flashlight and walk around to the front of the house.
That is why Park saw them both at almost exactly the same time.
bobaugust
dick wagner
After reviewing our work refuting the plausibility that Kato caused the
glove to be behind his wall where it is found, you say...
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Here is my theory on the matter.
First, I don't think Kato made up the story of hearing the thumps.
Second, I also do not subscribe to the idea that Kato was the killer
as Junot believes. Third, I don't think that Kato put the glove where
it was found. Finally, I don't believe that O.J. made the thumps
either.
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Well, Omar, of course it is your right to belive what you will. And,
as you expect, I agree with the first part of what you say. But, you
give no reasons for saying that you "don't believe that O.J. made the
thumps either." Why not? Because he says so? It was physically
possible for him to do. By any account (innocent or guilty) he was at
his estate at the time of the thumps; he was ambulatory, and could have
walked down to the place of the thumps. According to my understanding
that he was trying to get back into the house at a time when Park was
watching the driveway, Simpson had a motive to pound on Kato's wall, to
attract Kato's attention to come out front, and thereby create a
distraction for the limo driver.
As to the "moving picture," the phenomenon whereby this could happen is
familiar and explained in the article, "Four men banging on a wall" on
our site at http://wagnerandson.com . Also, it was very thoughtful of
you to provide for a stick upon which to pound, so as not to scuff the
wall, but it is unnecessary. If a man of Simpson's size pounded on the
stucco wall with the heel of his fist (expecially with the sissy
technique he illustrates in his interview video) he will not leave a
mark on the wall or on his fist.
Even though we have successfully demolished -- from several standpoints
-- the possibility that Simpson could have jumped over the Salingers'
fence (a concept even Petrocelli knew was impossible), it still remains
completely possible that Simpson, with the bleeding left finger to his
mouth and the Bundy glove in his right hand, went down that walk,
pounded three times on Kato's wall, lost the glove in the dark, and came
back to the front of the house without it. The entire "three thumps"
incident is explained with this simple, feasible, and circumstantially
plausible, act.
--dick wgner
Bob August
And the defense investigators completely contradict your beliefs.
bobaugust
Omar A.
1. You say that my theory doesn't account for the reality of the
timing when Park saw Kaelin and Simpson. The timing you refer to is
not related to the thumps, Simpson came out to get something and on
his way back toward the house when Park saw him and Kato who was
coming around the path way. Not related to the timing of the thumps
at all.
2. Re: Force needed to make the picture move. True, the
investigators could not make the picture move by banging on the wall.
Ditto when they banged on the wall from the inside. Likewise, when
they slammed into the wall. All agreed.
I also agree that there was not enough room back there to generate the
motion and force to make the picture move. My point: Since they
couldn't do it after all that, then either the picture moved or it
didn't.
My suggestion: Conduct an experiment. You'll find that had the
investigators used the method I suggest, the vibration you mention
would result and the picture MIGHT MOVE. .
Finally, try hitting a stucco wall with your first. Unless you listen
real closely, you might not even hear it! Use a stick and the sounds
would be heard over a wider area. Don't take my word for it. Try it!
Finally, Simpson could not have jumped over the fence as you suggest.
It wouldn't have held his weight.
Omar A.
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Bob August <boba...@lvcm.com> wrote in message news:<3E118F07...@lvcm.com>...
Omar A.
1. The reason why I do not think that O.J. made the thumps is because
it just doesn't fit with what we learned from the testimony and your
research. It's also partly related to physics (making a stucco wall
vibrate) and partly to the physical evidence found the stick) or not
found in the area (evidence of a trespasser).
Although I agree that Simpson was at Rockingham during that time, I do
not think he needed to draw Kato's attention to distract Park even if
he had visited Bundy as you believe. If he did, why didn't he just
enter through the maid's room?
Finally, if Simpson had indeed lost the glove while banging on the
wall to get Kato's attention (with one finger in his mouth, mind you),
wouldn't he later as Kato to find it when they went back there to
check out the area? At the very least, he would've been a little more
patient during the trip back there with Kato. Instead, he just blew
Kato off and decided the waiting limo was more important.
2. Re: "Four men banging on the wall" I read the article again.
Still doesn't work for me. Had they tried my method, they would've
gotten some good results. If they did, then O.J. didn't make the
thumps and wasn't back there that night. Why? He would not need to
think of using the method I propose because he would not have any
reason too.
Use of the method was not only related to protecting the stucco, but
rather to protect the identity of the person who planted the glove.
One more experiment wouldn't hurt. Try it.
Omar A.
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dick wagner <wag...@westworld.com> wrote in message news:<3E11BD...@westworld.com>...
Bob August
was a lie. Simpson was returning from Bundy. Park saw Simpson come from
his driveway to his front door, enter, and then lights go on.
We know Simpson was at Bundy. There is no doubt about that. His blood
was found at Bundy, and in his Bronco. That is what it tells us.
Heidstra tells us when he saw Simpson's Bronco speeding away from the
murder scene and Jill Shively tells us she made eye contact with Simpson
a couple of minutes later at the intersection of San Vaccinate and Bundy.
Simpson's Bronco was not parked on Rockingham when Allan Park arrived at
Rockingham or later when he he was concerned that no one was answering
his ringing. All of these facts tell us the truth of where Simpson was
that night.
What makes you think that Simpson's fence could not hold his weight? The
fence was about a four and half foot high cyclone fence. About the only
thing that would be damaged if Simpson stood on the fence and jumped
over it, is that the tied off wires at the top might have been bent. One
picture Wager posted, taken from Simpson's video, shows exactly that. It
is labeled "Figure 13".
bobaugust
Ragnar
Hello Dick,
Two points I'd like to raise about this issue: First, I think everyone
is wrapped around the axle as it were about the picture moving. I've
never been particularly convinced that this one detail is anything but
an embellishment on Kato's part to make it seem reasonable that he was
frightened by the noise. I know it can be dangerous to pick and choose
implausibilities in testimony, but the picture moving seems a rather
inconsequential point.
I realize that construction in So. Cal. is quite different than here
in Ohio due to the weather differences, and I've seen apartment
complexes built there with little more than studs, chicken wire and
stucco, with no exterior sheathing on the walls at all. Simpson's home
would probably have been better built, although the guest quarters
where Kato was housed would presumably be of a lesser construction
than the house itself.
Someone pounding on the wall, if they happend to be pounding at the
location of a stud, might move a picture, but even then I wouldn't bet
on it. I've never been a big fan of the 'over the fence' theory, so
I'm assuming pounding by one person is what allegedly moved the
picture. It's just an observation, but IMO the moving picture is one
of the lesser details, and I think Petrocelli nearly made the same
mistake as the Prosecution in rasing a burden for himself he didn't
have to meet. He didn't need to prove exactly how OJ got back there,
and the evidence would strongly suggest he simply walked back there
from the driveway.
Second, do we have any evidence for or against there being a pocket on
the left side of Simpson's sweats? The evidence at Bundy (blood drops,
coins, etc. in the parking area) argues strongly that there was at the
least one pocket somewhere in Simpson's sweats. I don't have a problem
with OJ putting his finger in his mouth to slow or stop the bleeding,
but another possibility is that he had his hand in the pocket of his
sweats at different times, preventing blood drops from landing on the
ground, etc.
This isn't a large issue either, but it is one more possible
explanation for the sporadic nature of the 'blood trail' at both Bundy
and Rockingham.
Ragnar
missmarple8
How could Kaelin see the picture on the wall behind the bed move if he
was sitting with his back against the head board?
He felt vibrations through a stucco wall AND a head board?? I don't
think so. And how come he only "remembered" this funny detail in the
civil trial?
When did Kaelin say that the picture "almost fell off the wall"? I
have only seen "moved" and "tilted". (Even in the civil trial) You
made that up, bobaugust, didn't you?
How could Kaelin not have seen Mr. Simpson walk into his front door if
Park is correct and he saw them both at "almost exactly the same
time"?
Miss Marple
Bob August
Miss Marple, Did I make up the picture "almost fell off the wall"? I
don't think I was the first to say that, but to keep things accurate,
Kaelin never actually said that. He said that picture completely tilted,
about six inches. It's probably more accurate to say as Schiller wrote,
the picture was shaken.
As I understand Kaelin's explanation of what happened was that he was
sitting on his bed with his back against the headboard, talking on the
phone. The air conditioner was on the wall to the right of his bed (his
right) and the pictures was on the wall to the left of his bed (his
left). He said that the noised started towards the center of the
headboard, and moved across the wall towards the picture. He said the
third noise was about a foot off from the first noise.
Kaelin talked about the pattern, as "boom, boom, boom." Kaelin said he
felt vibrations against his back. The noise moved in the direction from
the air conditioner to the picture, at a height of about five feet. He
said he saw the picture completely tilt, at least six inches.
You ask how could Kaelin not have seen Simpson walk into his house? Park
explained that the first person he saw was coming from around the house.
He then saw Simpson walking from the driveway area to the front door.
Kaelin may very well have seen Simpson walking to his front door, but he
wasn't very clear about it. He said he remembered seeing Simpson wearing
a dark colored sweat suit.
February 15, 1996
BY MR. PETROCELLI:
Q: I want to go back to where we were before Mr. Simpson interjected. Okay?
You said that you saw a person who you believed could have been O.J.
Simpson on -- at the corner where the Rockingham driveway intersects the
Ashford -- I'm sorry -- where the driveway coming from Rockingham
intersects the driveway coming from Ashford at that corner there. Right?
A: Yeah, I remember seeing O.J. outside. I don't know if it was at the
time I let the limo in or not, but it was the dark sweat suit, and that
I remember.
Q: You have a clear image of seeing O.J. in a dark sweat suit?
A: Yes.
Q: And you have a clear image of seeing O.J. in a dark sweat suit at
that spot that you just indicated where I am pointing to (Indicating)?
A: Yes.
Q: The corner right there (Indicating)?
A: Yes.
Q: Sort of behind where the Bentley would be?
A: Well, I think it was more here -- it was I thought walking right
around here (Indicating).
Q: Walking?
A: I was over here (Indicating). I think it was kind of in a walking mode.
Q: Walking in what direction?
A: It looked like to the door.
Q: Walking to the front door.
A: Right.
Q: So from the general direction of the Bentley?
A: Yes.
Q: So you believe you may -- you believe you saw O.J. Simpson walking
from the general vicinity of the Bentley to the general vicinity of the
front entrance of the door.
A: Yes.
Q: Okay. And when you saw that person, you thought it was O.J. Simpson.
Right?
A: Yes.
Q: You didn't think it was a prowler, did you?
A: No. It was O.J.
Q: Did he have on a black robe?
A: No.
*
BY MR. PETROCELLI:
Q: You said he had on a black sweat suit.
A: Yes.
Q: Can you describe that sweat suit for us?
A: I thought it was that one I described before. It was like a black-all
black. I thought + there was a white type zipper.
Q: Was it a two-piece? One-piece? Jogging? I mean, can you give us a
little more description?
A: I think it was a jogging -- I think it reminded my of like a
jogging/tennis outfit. and black with a white-kind of a sharp one.
It just was black with white -- like if this zipper went all the way
down like this (Indicating), it was white, and then black.
Black pants.
Q: And did you notice the shoes?
A: I didn't.
Q: Were they dark shoes?
A: It could have been, but I don't know. I don't know.
Q: If you thought that person was Simpson. did you say something to him?
A: That's what I don't know, if it was the time that happened. I
remember seeing like the dark sweat suit. I thought that was the suit --
the entire time was the dark suit. So I don't know if Alan Park was in
yet or not. I can't get it in my mind the exact timing of that, of that
event, but I remember a dark sweat suit in my head and O.J. in a dark suit.
Q: But you also remembered seeing a person walk from the vicinity of the
Bentley to the front door.
A: Going towards the front door. I didn't see anybody go in. I don't
know if the doors were open at that time or not. I can't associate in my
head if the doors were open yet or not.
I just have that image that O.J. was in a dark sweat suit.
*
Q: After you saw Mr. Simpson heading in that direction of the front
door, do you remember what you did next?
A: That's when -- I don't know if that's when I let the limo driver or
if he was in already or not. I'm trying to remember if that's the timing
of when I let him in. I can't remember the exact moment if he was
already in or not.
There was just so much that was going on, with the call to Rachel back
there, the noises I heard, the little flashlight, and I couldn't
associate it. and I think that's when I let the limo driver in, but I'm
not l00 percent positive. I just don't know. I just
don't know.
Q: You're not a hundred percent positive if that occurred before or
after you saw the--
A: Yes.
Q: -- let the driver in?
A: Correct.
Q: What's your best recollection? Was it before or after you let the
limo in?
MR. ROBERT BAKER: If you have a best recollection.
THE WITNESS: I can't recollect when it was. I don't know for sure. I
don't know for sure when it was.
bobaugust
dick wagner
This post was called to my attention because of Kato's civil trial
testimony that it includes, and I was interested to read that. In there
Kato says that he "saw O.J. Simpson walking from the general vicinity of
the Bentley to the general vicinity of the front entrance of the [house,
and doing that while wearing a dark sweat suit]." I should say that is
rather unambiguous.
I do believe that Kato actually did see such a thing, but I can not
base my conclusion on the civil trial testimony. What Kato said there
is a worthless product of Petrocelli's coaching, as was demonstrated by
his recanting (or "explaining" if you wish) his criminal trial testimony
in which he described "three thumps." If Kato is so susceptible a
person as to accomodate to Petrocelli's wish about the three thumps,
then I am sure he could accomodate concerning the shadowy figure (which
he said he did not see in the criminal trial) too.
I rest my own belief that Kato saw Simpson cross the drive on the
criminal trial contradiction between Park's testimony and Kato's
concering what Kato did upon coming to the driveway, and also on the
account that Kato told to a person I know in the first week after the
crime, in which he described his interaction with Simpson on that Sunday
night. Kato's true experience was not revealed in the criminal trial,
and not even in this civil transcript, though that is somewhat closer to
the whole truth of the matter.
Yes, Bob, Kato did see Simpson cross the drive as he says here, but we
do not know the fact from the civil trial transcript which was
manufactured in Petrocelli's pre-appearance witness coaching sessions.
--dick wagner
dick wagner
Commenting on the picture moving on Kato's wall because of the three
thumps, you say...
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Two points I'd like to raise about this issue: First, I think everyone
is wrapped around the axle as it were about the picture moving. I've
never been particularly convinced that this one detail is anything but
an embellishment on Kato's part to make it seem reasonable that he was
frightened by the noise. I know it can be dangerous to pick and choose
implausibilities in testimony, but the picture moving seems a rather
inconsequential point.
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Fair enough, Ragnar; I have done the same myself. There have been a
number of cases in which small points that I considered inconsequential
have been argued to death, for no important reason that I could see. I
have not followed such discussions nor have I acquainted myself with the
indications. However, there are a couple of cases in which I later
learned that a topic I had skipped over was actually VERY important (the
present instance in not one, however). The one that comes to mind is a
discussion about "wiping up the Bronco" after Simpson went to the
airport. At the time of the discussion, I figured this was a fabricated
or exaggerated subject, but subsequently I discovered a very compelling
source that I believed and confirmed it. Furthermore, the circumstances
were plausible, and rather innocent, I thought.
You continue...
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I realize that construction in So. Cal. is quite different than here
in Ohio due to the weather differences, and I've seen apartment
complexes built there with little more than studs, chicken wire and
stucco, with no exterior sheathing on the walls at all. Simpson's home
would probably have been better built, although the guest quarters
where Kato was housed would presumably be of a lesser construction
than the house itself.
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Quite so, Ragnar. If the building were constructed before about 1970
it would have been exactly as you guessed. After 1970 the "chicken wire
and tar paper" would be replaced with prefab exterior lath, but of the
same flimsy structure. Also, later structures would have fiber glass
insulation in the wall, but that doesn't do anything for the vibration
transmission properties.
Then you say.....
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Someone pounding on the wall, if they happend to be pounding at the
location of a stud, might move a picture, but even then I wouldn't bet
on it. I've never been a big fan of the 'over the fence' theory, so
I'm assuming pounding by one person is what allegedly moved the
picture. It's just an observation, but IMO the moving picture is one
of the lesser details, and I think Petrocelli nearly made the same
mistake as the Prosecution in rasing a burden for himself he didn't
have to meet. He didn't need to prove exactly how OJ got back there,
and the evidence would strongly suggest he simply walked back there
from the driveway.
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I agree that Simpson antagonists have made an unnecessary problem for
themselves on the subject of how (or why) Simpson went behind Kato's
wall. I never could understand why Bob August is so resistant to my
concept that Simpson went back there to deliberately attract Kato's
attention to come to the front and distract the limo driver. It matches
a no-Js needs EXACTLY to explain all of the evidence, and Simpson's
frame of mind at the time.
Finally...
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Second, do we have any evidence for or against there being a pocket on
the left side of Simpson's sweats? The evidence at Bundy (blood drops,
coins, etc. in the parking area) argues strongly that there was at the
least one pocket somewhere in Simpson's sweats. I don't have a problem
with OJ putting his finger in his mouth to slow or stop the bleeding,
but another possibility is that he had his hand in the pocket of his
sweats at different times, preventing blood drops from landing on the
ground, etc.
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I don't know, Ragnar, since the sweat suit in the washing machine was
never recovered by the cops.
--dick wagner
Bob August
Petrocelli's pre-appearance witness coaching sessions? No, Dick,
Petrocelli did not have to, nor did he coach Kaelin to say anything.
That is just your imagination at work again. Unless you think asking
questions is coaching.. Did Petrocelli ask a lot of in-depth questions?
You bet he did .Did he ever tell Kaelin what answers to give? No, Dick,
he did not.
I have posted what Petrocelli wrote about his discussions with Kaelin
before for you, showing you that you were wrong. By the time of the
civil trial, Kaelin realized that Simpson was the killer. Kaelin told
how in the criminal trial he was not aware of, and was kept from
learning about a lot of the evidence against Simpson.
Petrocelli did not tell Kaelin what to say. Kaelin's civil trial
testimony is pretty much consistent with what he had said before. If
Kaelin slanted his testimony to favor Simpson in the criminal trial, he
slanted it not to favor Simpson in the civil trial. There was nothing
new that Kaelin hadn't already said in his prior testimony or written in
his book before he ever met Petrocelli.
Not only did Kaelin come to believe that Simpson was guilty, he was
questioned in far more depth in deposition then how he was questioned
previously. More details came out. But Kaelin basically never changed
what he said. He was mistaken a couple of times, and he never changed
his mistaken recollections. Kaelin testified to a lot of facts in the
criminal trial that incriminated Simpson. Those facts never changed.
In deposition questioning I posted what Kaelin said about seeing
Simpson. Kaelin repeatedly told how he just wasn't sure when that
happened. Petrocelli had nothing to do with that, except to keep on
asking questions. Such as asking if Kaelin ever saw Simpson go to his
Bronco. Kaelin said no. Such as asking if Kaelin thought Simpson was
wearing a bathrobe when he saw him. Kaelin said no. Such as asking
Kaelin about Chachi. Kaelin told how Chachi never ran out the gate. And
many more questions whose answers were consistent with other witnesses,
all contradicting Simpson's lies.
Kaelin did not need coaching, he just needed to be asked the right
questions, and then he answered truthfully.
bobaugust
missmarple8
So why don't we keep things as accurate as we can. Kaelin never said
the picture "almost fell off the wall". Doesn't matter who "said it
first", whoever repeats it is spreading gossip and untruths. I
counted you using that exact line three times in a recent post.
Doesn't make it truer, still didn't come from Kaelin's mouth. I don't
recall "compeletely tilted" as something Kaelin said either and as far
as I know Shiller was not in Kaelin's room that night. And I don't
think you do these things by accident.
Poor Kaelin, the preassure on that kid "to do the right thing". After
all the coaching from Petrocelli and concerned citicens like Geraldo
there was still a bit of honesty left in the kid. When it came to
finish off the all new testimony (which he forgot through the grand
jury, the prelims and the criminal trial) that he actually saw Mr.
Simpson in the jogging/tennis outfit walking towards the front door he
sums it up:
> THE WITNESS: I can't recollect when it was. I don't know for sure. I
> don't know for sure when it was.
Have you seen the picture of Mr. Simpson and his daughter Sidney from
the recital that night. He is wearing what looks like a dark
sports/tennis jacket, open over a white shirt, with dark pants.
That's what Clark described to Kaelin as a sweat suit and Kaelin added
the white around the zippered front to it. And that's what he saw
Mr. Simpson wear when he returned from the recital at about seven.
Same "sweat suit".
You still haven't explained how Kaelin could see the picture tilt from
the back of his head.
Miss Marple
>
Bob August
Miss Marple, I am not too impressed with what you recall. You have
continually shown us a reading comprehension problem.
Q: How many--how much did the picture move?
A: It moved at least six inches. It tilted completely.
Petrocelli did not do any "coaching". That is only Wagner's distortion
of questions Petrocelli asked Kaelin. Coaching would be if someone was
suggesting answers to Kaelin for those questions. It never happened.
Kaelin has been consistent with what he said from the beginning until
the end. He told it the way he remembered it, mistakes included, every
time he testified.
During the criminal trial, Kaelin was unaware of the evidence against
Simpson. He did not think that Simpson could be involved in this crime,
just like the rest of us, at first, did not think he could. In the
criminal trial if Kaelin slanted his testimony to favor Simpson, by the
time of the civil trial, Kaelin had come to believe that Simpson was
guilty, and he may have slanted his testimony to not favor Simpson.
Your comment about Simpson's clothes has no credibility or anything to
do with reality, but maybe you are just trying to be funny, right? Or
maybe you can't tell the difference between a sweat suit and regular
clothing, so you think no else can either, right?
Simpson told how he supposedly changed into golf clothes after the
recital. Kaelin described Simpson's clothing as he remembered them. Your
accusations that somehow Clark led him to say that Simpson was wearing
a dark colored sweat suit is not only ridiculously false, but it makes
no sense. How do you think Clark knew that the killer was wearing a dark
colored sweat suit? That's really dumb, Miss Marple.
I explained how Kaelin saw the picture tilt. There's that reading
comprehension problem again. Kaelin was sitting on his bed with his back
against the headboard. That is how he felt the vibrations. The picture
was over his bed but on the wall to his left. Kaelin saw the picture
tilt, completely.
bobaugust