The Price of War could get you thousands of bridges and more
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
world made in China...
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/china-s-jiaozhou-bay-bridge-1309439624-slideshow/
And this is the cost of war...
"At a minimum, say the authors of the study, the final cost for these
military engagements will be $3.7 trillion."
http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=CEAF20AC-7BA4-4C89-86A6-61C75668B25A
Let's add the "small change" from the War on Drugs, and we got
ourselves a couple of thousand bridges and more.
Why does it take a monkey to realize the wars have a cost?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6quMm-tMqyE/S_T9UYcuKQI/AAAAAAAAAAM/micdK_MFhdg/s1600-R/ThinkingMonkey.jpg
I simply don't know. I give up.
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"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
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Hey, what are you, some kind of commie socialist!?!?! Americans do not
deserve to have decent bridges, roads, light rail systems.
Ed S.
--
"The bible shows how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go." Galileo
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm talking about no ordinary bridges, but the longest bridge in the
> world made in China...
>
>
> And this is the cost of war...
>
> "At a minimum, say the authors of the study, the final cost for these
> military engagements will be $3.7 trillion."
>
>
> Let's add the "small change" from the War on Drugs, and we got
> ourselves a couple of thousand bridges and more.
>
> Why does it take a monkey to realize the wars have a cost?
>
>
> I simply don't know. I give up.
>
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>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
This comment from the link above says something important too. Obama
is dumping money on the roads, and IT ALL SEEMS TO BE GOING THE
DRAINAGE!
"How can China build a bridge 26 miles long for a bit over a billion
dollars and it costs a half a billion dollars to put in 5 miles of car
pool lane in the 405 in LA? Something is very wrong here!"
The answer may be as simple as CHEAP LABOR in China or MASSIVE
CORRUPTION here. To compound the problem they leave the projects
UNFINISHED and we are left struggling on roads and sidewalks.
On second thought, I don't want more money going into traffic
infrastructure!
dr_jeff
> On Jun 30, 3:09 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> Philosopher"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I'm talking about no ordinary bridges, but the longest bridge in the
>> world made in China...
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/photos/china-s-jiaozhou-bay-bridge-1309439624-s...
>>
>> And this is the cost of war...
>>
>> "At a minimum, say the authors of the study, the final cost for these
>> military engagements will be $3.7 trillion."
>>
>> http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=CEAF20AC-7BA4-4C89-86A6-6...
>>
>> Let's add the "small change" from the War on Drugs, and we got
>> ourselves a couple of thousand bridges and more.
>>
>> Why does it take a monkey to realize the wars have a cost?
>>
>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6quMm-tMqyE/S_T9UYcuKQI/AAAAAAAAAAM/micdK_M...
>>
>> I simply don't know. I give up.
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> This comment from the link above says something important too. Obama
> is dumping money on the roads, and IT ALL SEEMS TO BE GOING THE
> DRAINAGE!
>
> "How can China build a bridge 26 miles long for a bit over a billion
> dollars and it costs a half a billion dollars to put in 5 miles of car
> pool lane in the 405 in LA? Something is very wrong here!"
Yeah, China takes private property with little or not compensation to
the previous owners.
> The answer may be as simple as CHEAP LABOR in China or MASSIVE
> CORRUPTION here. To compound the problem they leave the projects
> UNFINISHED and we are left struggling on roads and sidewalks.
Not to mention better design and construction standards.
> On second thought, I don't want more money going into traffic
> infrastructure!
How do you suggest we get around?
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm talking about no ordinary bridges, but the longest bridge in the
> world made in China...
>
>
> And this is the cost of war...
>
> "At a minimum, say the authors of the study, the final cost for these
> military engagements will be $3.7 trillion."
>
>
> Let's add the "small change" from the War on Drugs, and we got
> ourselves a couple of thousand bridges and more.
>
> Why does it take a monkey to realize the wars have a cost?
>
>
> I simply don't know. I give up.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
I knew a bridge would reveal deeper truths... such is the Wisdom of
the Jungle!
For example:
"China invests in infrastructure America funds wars and spends
billions chasing one muslim guy. Wonder which country will come out
ahead?"
and
"Comes to show you, how America is all but lost as a superpower, we
can't even fix a bridge anymore, without buying the parts from China.
The United States has sold it's soul for the sake of greed!"
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm talking about no ordinary bridges, but the longest bridge in the
> world made in China...
>
>
> And this is the cost of war...
>
> "At a minimum, say the authors of the study, the final cost for these
> military engagements will be $3.7 trillion."
>
>
> Let's add the "small change" from the War on Drugs, and we got
> ourselves a couple of thousand bridges and more.
>
> Why does it take a monkey to realize the wars have a cost?
>
>
> I simply don't know. I give up.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
This is super cool...
"China is also building some of the Bay Bridge in San Fransisco...at
least there building our infrastructure while we rebuild the
infrastructures that we bomb of the countries we are at war with."
Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals
benefits for illegals while our bridges crumble.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Like we compensated the Indians.
>
> > The answer may be as simple as CHEAP LABOR in China or MASSIVE
> > CORRUPTION here. To compound the problem they leave the projects
> > UNFINISHED and we are left struggling on roads and sidewalks.
>
> Not to mention better design and construction standards.
Yeah sure, like the bridge that failed some years back. I'm yet to
hear one from China fail.
>
> > On second thought, I don't want more money going into traffic
> > infrastructure!
>
> How do you suggest we get around?
No more cars!
We need alternative transportation, not least bicycles. We also need
fast trains, where China and other countries are investing heavily.
dr_jeff
Well, we do. After all, a lot of our phone centers are in India.
>>> The answer may be as simple as CHEAP LABOR in China or MASSIVE
>>> CORRUPTION here. To compound the problem they leave the projects
>>> UNFINISHED and we are left struggling on roads and sidewalks.
>>
>> Not to mention better design and construction standards.
>
> Yeah sure, like the bridge that failed some years back. I'm yet to
> hear one from China fail.
Oh, gee. One bridge failed.
They fail in China, too: http://dailyqi.com/?p=22957.
We just don't hear about it.
>>> On second thought, I don't want more money going into traffic
>>> infrastructure!
>>
>> How do you suggest we get around?
>
> No more cars!
No, that's how we *don't* get around.
> We need alternative transportation, not least bicycles. We also need
> fast trains, where China and other countries are investing heavily.
Right your Congressman.
Jeff
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
I mean Indians as in chief with feathers and pow wow. They are the
original owners here.
>
> >>> The answer may be as simple as CHEAP LABOR in China or MASSIVE
> >>> CORRUPTION here. To compound the problem they leave the projects
> >>> UNFINISHED and we are left struggling on roads and sidewalks.
>
> >> Not to mention better design and construction standards.
>
> > Yeah sure, like the bridge that failed some years back. I'm yet to
> > hear one from China fail.
>
> Oh, gee. One bridge failed.
>
> They fail in China, too:http://dailyqi.com/?p=22957.
>
> We just don't hear about it.
QUOTE:
"flood-damaged bridge"
This is not the same as failing for lack of oversight and maintenance.
>
> >>> On second thought, I don't want more money going into traffic
> >>> infrastructure!
>
> >> How do you suggest we get around?
>
> > No more cars!
>
> No, that's how we *don't* get around.
Things have reached a point where we can really move faster, even by
riding a bike.
>
> > We need alternative transportation, not least bicycles. We also need
> > fast trains, where China and other countries are investing heavily.
>
> Right your Congressman.
Sure, he will surely say, "I will study the subject, but whatever
little money there is, it's going into digging up streets and leaving
them unfinished. It keeps the people working, you know."
dr_jeff
They're called native Americans.
Unfortunately, we continue to give underrepresented minorities a raw
deal. Don't forget, white people used to own other people back about 150
years ago.
>>>>> The answer may be as simple as CHEAP LABOR in China or MASSIVE
>>>>> CORRUPTION here. To compound the problem they leave the projects
>>>>> UNFINISHED and we are left struggling on roads and sidewalks.
>>
>>>> Not to mention better design and construction standards.
>>
>>> Yeah sure, like the bridge that failed some years back. I'm yet to
>>> hear one from China fail.
>>
>> Oh, gee. One bridge failed.
>>
>> They fail in China, too:http://dailyqi.com/?p=22957.
>>
>> We just don't hear about it.
>
> QUOTE:
>
> "flood-damaged bridge"
>
> This is not the same as failing for lack of oversight and maintenance.
Really? It is not possible to predict floods? And, it is not possible to
monitor bridges in areas with flooding so that trains don't go over them
during periods of high risk?
>>
>>>>> On second thought, I don't want more money going into traffic
>>>>> infrastructure!
>>
>>>> How do you suggest we get around?
>>
>>> No more cars!
>>
>> No, that's how we *don't* get around.
>
> Things have reached a point where we can really move faster, even by
> riding a bike.
Depends on where you are and where you're going. Try going to Ikea,
Target or BestBuy for physically big things (a table or a TV) and take
it home by bike, bus or subway (these stores are readily available by
bike and public transportation in Brooklyn - the one in New York, not
the one in PA or MI).
>>> We need alternative transportation, not least bicycles. We also need
>>> fast trains, where China and other countries are investing heavily.
>>
>> Right your Congressman.
>
> Sure, he will surely say, "I will study the subject, but whatever
> little money there is, it's going into digging up streets and leaving
> them unfinished. It keeps the people working, you know."
Really? How do you know? If you're not part of the solution, you're part
of the problem. And part of the solution is contact your elected
representatives, and if they aren't representing you, try to get
someone else hired for the position (i.e., vote).
Billions of dollars are spent on public transportation every year. The
governor of NJ recently pulled out of a multibillion tunnel going under
the Hudson River to provide better transportation between NY and NJ.
Now, NJ owes the US Gov't hundreds of millions of dollars.
Not only is the New York Metro area happered by urban transportation
problems, but a project that was bringing billions of dollars to the
area and would benefits residents of New Jersey and New York by
improving transportation was stopped by the short-sighted governor. Now,
that's what's called stupidity.
Jeff
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
> > Things have reached a point where we can really move faster, even by
> > riding a bike.
>
> Depends on where you are and where you're going. Try going to Ikea,
> Target or BestBuy for physically big things (a table or a TV) and take
> it home by bike, bus or subway (these stores are readily available by
> bike and public transportation in Brooklyn - the one in New York, not
> the one in PA or MI).
Use a bike trailer OR rent a truck. After all you don't need an SUV
everyday.
>
> >>> We need alternative transportation, not least bicycles. We also need
> >>> fast trains, where China and other countries are investing heavily.
>
> >> Right your Congressman.
>
> > Sure, he will surely say, "I will study the subject, but whatever
> > little money there is, it's going into digging up streets and leaving
> > them unfinished. It keeps the people working, you know."
>
> Really? How do you know? If you're not part of the solution, you're part
> of the problem. And part of the solution is contact your elected
> representatives, and if they aren't representing you, try to get
> someone else hired for the position (i.e., vote).
>
> Billions of dollars are spent on public transportation every year. The
> governor of NJ recently pulled out of a multibillion tunnel going under
> the Hudson River to provide better transportation between NY and NJ.
> Now, NJ owes the US Gov't hundreds of millions of dollars.
>
> Not only is the New York Metro area happered by urban transportation
> problems, but a project that was bringing billions of dollars to the
> area and would benefits residents of New Jersey and New York by
> improving transportation was stopped by the short-sighted governor. Now,
> that's what's called stupidity.
>
> Jeff
This is called STUPIDITY... or perhaps EVIL:
(This is how I work when elected officials ignore me: I go to the
local forum and throw the crap)
"Where's the evil mind that digs up our streets and leaves them
unfinished?"
Examples abound: Biscayne Blvd south of 36 st, John F. Kennedy
causeway west of channel 7, Collins next to Fountain Blue, Venetian
Causeway and many other "improvement projects" where cyclists and
pedestrians are left to scramble. These areas are left forever while
nobody is working on it. Sometimes they place the sign "construction
ahead" squarely on the sidewalk, and you feel like kicking the stupid
sign --which I was told is illegal on sidewalk.
It is said, "Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to
stupidity," but it would seem like there's an evil mind to make life
difficult for people. Are they trying to say perhaps, "See, you need
me. Hire me again to finish the job."
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
> On 7/2/11 11:33 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> Philosopher wrote:
> > On Jul 2, 10:47 am, dr_jeff<u...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >>> Things have reached a point where we can really move faster, even by
> >>> riding a bike.
>
> >> Depends on where you are and where you're going. Try going to Ikea,
> >> Target or BestBuy for physically big things (a table or a TV) and take
> >> it home by bike, bus or subway (these stores are readily available by
> >> bike and public transportation in Brooklyn - the one in New York, not
> >> the one in PA or MI).
>
> > Use a bike trailer OR rent a truck. After all you don't need an SUV
> > everyday.
>
You just said you couldn't do some stuff with the bike. It's an
educated guess that you drive an SUV to be ready for hauling stuff,
which many claim is the reason for them having a jungle vehicle in the
middle of the city.
Nobody claimed that the bike is the perfect solution for everything
though. Sometimes we bike, sometimes we drive. Problem is many of the
errands where we drive are not accessible for bikes. We got the
trailers, we got the determination, we think it's fun... but we are
not willing to struggle on sidewalks all the time. Bicycle trailers
don't even fit there. Actually a single-wheel trailer fits but there's
little capacity in it --some 30 pound and no bulky stuff.
These causeways --two of them-- are NO MAN'S LAND, but the police and
the light cameras are very active, if you know what I mean. I mean
they are a trap.
> First, I have to see what is unfinished. Second, I would ask the people
> responsible why they are unfinished. It could be that there was a
> project that was stopped because of the economy.
I think every single project is unfinished. It would take a committed
team of citizens to go around to different cities to inquire about the
different projects. Most people simply ignore the problem rather than
bother about it.
>
> > Examples abound: Biscayne Blvd south of 36 st, John F. Kennedy
> > causeway west of channel 7, Collins next to Fountain Blue, Venetian
> > Causeway and many other "improvement projects" where cyclists and
> > pedestrians are left to scramble. These areas are left forever while
> > nobody is working on it. Sometimes they place the sign "construction
> > ahead" squarely on the sidewalk, and you feel like kicking the stupid
> > sign --which I was told is illegal on sidewalk.
>
> Where are you allowed to kick the sign? Is it ok to kick it on a private
> lawn?
On the sidewalk. The guy that told me a is black American guy who must
know, but Jesus or Pedro (Latin = no speak English) think the sidewalk
is the perfect to place the sign.
Whether I'm allowed to kick or not is debatable but I certainly feel
the urge.
>
> If a construction company or government agency is doing something
> illegal, what have you done about it, other than whine more than a
> kindergartener? You could complain to the construction company, the
> government officials who are supposed to work for *you*, write the
> newspapers or just whine like a little baby. So far, I have seen
> evidence only for the last one.
I wrote to Channel 7, next to the broken up sidewalk. But they are
looking for blood and mayhem, which may happen because you took to the
road to avoid the broken area. What an irony, no?
>
> However, you said what you think your representative would say. That
> really tells me that you want to whine and be heard. Good job.
>
> Too bad you don't want to actually do something that will effect a good
> change. The people who pay all the money to people in office count on
> people to do nothing.
That's right! No better than the people in China! Except that they
work fast on the projects.
>
> > It is said, "Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to
> > stupidity," but it would seem like there's an evil mind to make life
> > difficult for people. Are they trying to say perhaps, "See, you need
> > me. Hire me again to finish the job."
>
> What makes you assume that they were paid to finish the job? Perhaps
> their funding ran out.
>
> Stop whining and start with the facts.
Maybe Obama wants you to think that he's pouring money into
infrastructure... but everything goes down the black hole. It just
shows that pouring more money won't solve the problem. Maybe it takes
transparency first.
Where's on Earth is the brilliant mind leading America like China? And
are they smart after all? That's a different question.
If they ignore the mundane monkey --the cyclist-- they are not.
Nick Naim
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> world made in China...
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/photos/china-s-jiaozhou-bay-bridge-1309439624-slideshow/
>
> And this is the cost of war...
>
> "At a minimum, say the authors of the study, the final cost for these
> military engagements will be $3.7 trillion."
>
> http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=CEAF20AC-7BA4-4C89-86A6-61C75668B25A
>
> Let's add the "small change" from the War on Drugs, and we got
> ourselves a couple of thousand bridges and more.
>
> Why does it take a monkey to realize the wars have a cost?
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6quMm-tMqyE/S_T9UYcuKQI/AAAAAAAAAAM/micdK_MFhdg/s1600-R/ThinkingMonkey.jpg
>
> I simply don't know. I give up.
from 9 to 230PM on a bridge at one time in the United States
>
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>
Jeff Strickland
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> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> <comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:aba32e95-573d-453b...@j15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm talking about no ordinary bridges, but the longest bridge in the
>> world made in China...
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/photos/china-s-jiaozhou-bay-bridge-1309439624-slideshow/
>>
>> And this is the cost of war...
>>
>> "At a minimum, say the authors of the study, the final cost for these
>> military engagements will be $3.7 trillion."
>>
>> http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=CEAF20AC-7BA4-4C89-86A6-61C75668B25A
>>
>> Let's add the "small change" from the War on Drugs, and we got
>> ourselves a couple of thousand bridges and more.
>>
>> Why does it take a monkey to realize the wars have a cost?
>>
>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6quMm-tMqyE/S_T9UYcuKQI/AAAAAAAAAAM/micdK_MFhdg/s1600-R/ThinkingMonkey.jpg
>>
>> I simply don't know. I give up.
> Usualy one sees between maybe and this is a maybe 12 union goons working
> from 9 to 230PM on a bridge at one time in the United States
Without getting into the Union thing, even IF we could get thousands of
bridges for the cost of a war, or two, history shows that we will not get
them.
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benefit to society as a whole, it was the dollar spent on building a road or
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> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> <comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:aba32e95-573d-453b...@j15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm talking about no ordinary bridges, but the longest bridge in the
>> world made in China...
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/photos/china-s-jiaozhou-bay-bridge-1309439624-slideshow/
>>
>> And this is the cost of war...
>>
>> "At a minimum, say the authors of the study, the final cost for these
>> military engagements will be $3.7 trillion."
>>
>> http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=CEAF20AC-7BA4-4C89-86A6-61C75668B25A
>>
>> Let's add the "small change" from the War on Drugs, and we got
>> ourselves a couple of thousand bridges and more.
>>
>> Why does it take a monkey to realize the wars have a cost?
>>
>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6quMm-tMqyE/S_T9UYcuKQI/AAAAAAAAAAM/micdK_MFhdg/s1600-R/ThinkingMonkey.jpg
>>
>> I simply don't know. I give up.
> Usualy one sees between maybe and this is a maybe 12 union goons working
> from 9 to 230PM on a bridge at one time in the United States
And you know that these are "union goons" how?
Jeff
>>
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>
>
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
> "Nick Naim" <orb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> > <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:aba32e95-573d-453b...@j15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> >> I'm talking about no ordinary bridges, but the longest bridge in the
> >> world made in China...
>
> >>http://news.yahoo.com/photos/china-s-jiaozhou-bay-bridge-1309439624-s...
>
> >> And this is the cost of war...
>
> >> "At a minimum, say the authors of the study, the final cost for these
> >> military engagements will be $3.7 trillion."
>
> >>http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=CEAF20AC-7BA4-4C89-86A6-6...
>
> >> Let's add the "small change" from the War on Drugs, and we got
> >> ourselves a couple of thousand bridges and more.
>
> >> Why does it take a monkey to realize the wars have a cost?
>
> >>http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6quMm-tMqyE/S_T9UYcuKQI/AAAAAAAAAAM/micdK_M...
>
> >> I simply don't know. I give up.
> > Usualy one sees between maybe and this is a maybe 12 union goons working
> > from 9 to 230PM on a bridge at one time in the United States
>
> Without getting into the Union thing, even IF we could get thousands of
> bridges for the cost of a war, or two, history shows that we will not get
> them.
>
> If there was EVER a government dollar that was spent on anything that was a
> benefit to society as a whole, it was the dollar spent on building a road or
> a bridge.
Not necessarily if the bridge is poorly designed and it doesn't have
room for pedestrians and cyclists. It just channels more cars to feed
the jungle --ticket traps, tolls, etc.
One of the bridges that I must negotiate with the bike has three lanes
for cars, but it forces me to squeeze when passing a pedestrian on the
sidewalk. Actually we must make body contact to pass each other.
There's no room for people, just room for consumers.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
> On 7/4/11 9:32 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> Philosopher wrote:
> > On Jul 3, 12:47 pm, dr_jeff<u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> >> On 7/3/11 10:53 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> <...>
>
> >> Wrote to Channel 7. Good job. How about calling the mayor's office.
>
> > No, I haven't. I assume I will get the same answer I got from the
> > other city that recommended me NOT to ride a bike in the area.
>
> To ASSUME is to make an ASS out of YOU, but then you blame me.
>
> If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
No, I just follow a different strategy not unheard of in the jungle.
MAKE NOISE, BIG NOISE. I don't like being rejected or dismissed so I
start ignoring them too. I don't even ask many ladies to go out with
me. I say, "Let's get down to business, baby!" ;)
But tell you what... What if we write to the concerned cities right
from here? I did publish my letter to the engineers of the city of Bay
Harbor Islands. The problem is they are little tiny cities and they
have their own ordinances and they want their territory well kept to
themselves. In other words, they are upper middle class areas where a
guy on a bike is just a monkey.
>
> Take your bike to the nearest Target and ask where the crying towels
> are. You need one with all your whining.
Sure. "BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS."
> >>>> However, you said what you think your representative would say. That
> >>>> really tells me that you want to whine and be heard. Good job.
>
> >>>> Too bad you don't want to actually do something that will effect a good
> >>>> change. The people who pay all the money to people in office count on
> >>>> people to do nothing.
>
> >>> That's right! No better than the people in China! Except that they
> >>> work fast on the projects.
>
> >>>>> It is said, "Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to
> >>>>> stupidity," but it would seem like there's an evil mind to make life
> >>>>> difficult for people. Are they trying to say perhaps, "See, you need
> >>>>> me. Hire me again to finish the job."
>
> >>>> What makes you assume that they were paid to finish the job? Perhaps
> >>>> their funding ran out.
>
> >>>> Stop whining and start with the facts.
>
> >>> Maybe Obama wants you to think that he's pouring money into
> >>> infrastructure... but everything goes down the black hole. It just
> >>> shows that pouring more money won't solve the problem. Maybe it takes
> >>> transparency first.
>
> >>> Where's on Earth is the brilliant mind leading America like China? And
> >>> are they smart after all? That's a different question.
>
> >>> If they ignore the mundane monkey --the cyclist-- they are not.
>
> >> Obama isn't pouring money anywhere. That's because the conservatives in
> >> Congress think it is more important to make sure rich people pay little
> >> in taxes than provide education, roads or other services to people.
>
> >> And, that is what *I* write my representatives about as well as march on
> >> city hall.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> >> And, please don't post this to michael moore group. I think he is a jerk.
>
> > Michael Moore may be a jerk. I don't even know what his point is.
>
> Yet you cross post to his group. Guess who that makes the jerk to be?
Well, he may be a jerk but his sympathizers may not necessarily be.
This is a question for them all:
"Hey guys, are you all jerks? Then why do you follow a jerk?"
>
> > Anyway, the Republicans are slowing down the Democrats and the
> > Democrats are not willing to shake the tree. They can't. There's been
> > an increase in public works that I have observed but it may be going
> > down the drain as well.
>
> > Are we finished as a Republic? Is it time for the People's Republic?
>
> When the people whine on newsgroups, but don't do anything to truly
> participate in their government, the government is for those who donate
> to the parties, not for the people. If you want it to be a people's
> republic, then you need to start truly participating. Write to the
> newspapers, the elected officials (use email if you have to), start a
> blog, etc., to express your views.
>
> Whining on the news groups doesn't really do anything (other than to
> make you look like a jerk and lets you blow of steam) to help the situation.
>
> Jeff
Not necessarily. It may add grease to the machine that it's stuck in
time. IT'S TIME FOR EVOLUTION.
Notice, I didn't say REVOLUTION.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
of locals read it? Democracy at work... but it doesn't work!)
On Jul 4, 4:48 pm, "TDNY" <T...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/how-banks-won/
>
> As the government prepares an emergency
> budget to help pay for the bank bailout,
> Will Hutton investigates the banks and
> what they’ve done with our money.
>
> He discovers that while ordinary taxpayers
> take the pain, for the banks it’s largely business as usual.
>
> Hutton analyses the banks’ accounts and shows
> how they are using government-guaranteed funds
> to gamble with derivatives as they did before the crash.
>
> He also reveals how the banks are still
> paying vast salaries and bonuses, and
> City head hunters tell Dispatches how
> the banks hide the sums they’re really paying out.
>
> With the help of former and current members
> of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee,
> Hutton shows how the banks’ booming margins come
> the free and near-free money the government and
> taxpayers gave them to save the banking system.
>
> He also investigates the banks’ intense lobbying
> to resist government plans for reform and highlights
> recent research from the OECD on how Britain is
> internationally unusual in the extent to which
> bankers have key roles in the civil service and government.
>
> Featuring high-powered contributors such as
> President Obama’s banking advisor Paul Volcker,
> former Chancellor Alastair Darling, former City
> minister Lord Myners and current Business
> Secretary Vince Cable, Hutton shows why
> without urgent reform we risk the prospect
> of another crash –
>
> this time there won’t be any money left for a bail-out –
> plus the certainty of British business being starved of vital funding.
>
> With the Eurozone crisis fueling fears of another banking crash,
> this programme is an urgent and shocking call to action.
>
> Watch the full documentary now
The problem comes from the greedy banks at the top all the way down to
the bureaucrats that fail to use the money wisely --wasted in
excessive lighting, for example-- to union members that sit on their
ass.
I'm not sure if the park attendants where I live are union members but
they sure sit on their ass while leaving the big trucks running so
they stay in nice air conditioning.
"UNITED WE STAND, CORRUPT WE FALL"
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
(making noise at my local forum)
The "bike lane" on McArthur Causeway is still closed. I don't know
since when but I noticed first several months ago. Not that I'd ever
dare to ride on that lane without some kind of physical barrier --cars
going over 50+miles.
I think that lane is just there for show like many others. Then they
channel you into Venetian Causeway, also under construction. If you
follow Biscayne north it's even worst. I rode on the middle lane --the
turning lane-- just to avoid the grinding unfinished curbs.
I sincerely prefer they send the money to Iraq.
***
Do you, guys, know the difference between DEMOCRACY and FREE SPEECH?
"Free Speech is when you can talk, Democracy is when they hear you."
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
> Also Kuwait. We saved their butts.
>
> "Richard Stephens" wrote in messagenews:iv4lbn$6pf$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> We should be entitled to $3.7 trillion (plus interest) worth of oil from
> Iraq and Afghanistan.
We can bomb bridges overseas, then pay for repairs --something we
can't have in America. But the enemy also help us destroy
infrastructure in those far away lands.
The only thing we can't teach them is how to be wise the funds, or
even what that infrastructure should look like.
It's complicated but in the end it's all about money.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The only thing we can't teach them is how to be wise the funds, or
> even what that infrastructure should look like.
>
> It's complicated but in the end it's all about money.
When the history of the empires tells the end of America, it'll say
it's CORRUPTION that brought it down. We did all these fatal mistakes:
1- We exported our manufacturing to China,
2- We embarked on too many wars and we didn't tax it,
3- We failed to adapt to the changes happening in the world, chiefly
Climate Change,
4- We failed to tax gasoline and thus encourage alternative
transportation,
5- We failed to tell the truth in order to win elections,
6- We failed to listen to the FIRST & LAST MESSENGER OF THE JUNGLE
(me)...
China will only reign for a short while and it'll fall too. The Earth
can not sustain it.
Here my crystal ball goes dark.
http://a6.mzstatic.com/us/r1000/050/Purple/df/83/bb/mzl.frourozv.png
Nick Naim
"dr_jeff" <u...@msu.edu> wrote in message
news:ctqdnRm0aPkcL4zT...@giganews.com...
> On 7/3/11 10:23 PM, Nick Naim wrote:
>> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>> <comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:aba32e95-573d-453b...@j15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>> I'm talking about no ordinary bridges, but the longest bridge in the
>>> world made in China...
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/photos/china-s-jiaozhou-bay-bridge-1309439624-slideshow/
>>>
>>> And this is the cost of war...
>>>
>>> "At a minimum, say the authors of the study, the final cost for these
>>> military engagements will be $3.7 trillion."
>>>
>>> http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=CEAF20AC-7BA4-4C89-86A6-61C75668B25A
>>>
>>> Let's add the "small change" from the War on Drugs, and we got
>>> ourselves a couple of thousand bridges and more.
>>>
>>> Why does it take a monkey to realize the wars have a cost?
>>>
>>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6quMm-tMqyE/S_T9UYcuKQI/AAAAAAAAAAM/micdK_MFhdg/s1600-R/ThinkingMonkey.jpg
>>>
>>> I simply don't know. I give up.
>> Usualy one sees between maybe and this is a maybe 12 union goons working
>> from 9 to 230PM on a bridge at one time in the United States
>
> And you know that these are "union goons" how?
>
> Jeff
>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>>>
>>
>>
>
Dave Head
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Yeah, you could save the money of the war and build bridges, but just
because you don't go kick the enemy's ass, doesn't mean he isn't
still the enemy, and will travel to your new bridge and blow it up, or
knock it down, or whatever else... because he's still your enemy.
You have to kick his ass to convince him that attacking the USA is a
really bad idea. If you don't do it, then he just keeps attacking.
6139 Dead, 1282 since 1/20/09
So who is this enemy that keeps blowing up your bridges, chuckles?
And what makes him so scary we have to blow over a trillion a year on him?
Dave Head
AQ.
>And what makes him so scary we have to blow over a trillion a year on him?
'Cuz if he gets hold of the right weapons, or comes up with the right
plan to use "everyday household materials", he could possibly kill
vast numbers of people in a single attack. Or... damage vital
infrastructure. How would you like to lose maybe 5 - 10 underwater
tunnels in major cities via a truckload of Ammonium Nitrate and
Fertilzer? It could happen. The Brits were the ones that found and
foiled the simultaneous attacks on 10 airliners that were to headed
for the US, which, had the attack succeeded, could have killed 3000
more Americans.
A defensive war is not a war you can win. You have to go defeat the
enemy, or you will eventually lose. And you will suffer many dead.
6139 Dead, 1282 since 1/20/09
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:37:09 +0000 (UTC), "6139 Dead, 1282 since
> 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:36:05 -0400, Dave Head wrote:
>>> Yeah, you could save the money of the war and build bridges, but just
>>> because you don't go kick the enemy's ass, doesn't mean he isn't
>>> still the enemy, and will travel to your new bridge and blow it up, or
>>> knock it down, or whatever else... because he's still your enemy.
>>>
>>> You have to kick his ass to convince him that attacking the USA is a
>>> really bad idea. If you don't do it, then he just keeps attacking.
>>
>>So who is this enemy that keeps blowing up your bridges, chuckles?
>
> AQ.
AQ, eh. So which bridges have they blown up? Be specific, now.
>
>>And what makes him so scary we have to blow over a trillion a year on
>>him?
>
> 'Cuz if he gets hold of the right weapons, or comes up with the right
> plan to use "everyday household materials", he could possibly kill vast
> numbers of people in a single attack. Or... damage vital
> infrastructure. How would you like to lose maybe 5 - 10 underwater
> tunnels in major cities via a truckload of Ammonium Nitrate and
> Fertilzer? It could happen. The Brits were the ones that found and
> foiled the simultaneous attacks on 10 airliners that were to headed for
> the US, which, had the attack succeeded, could have killed 3000 more
> Americans.
The plans that never amounted to anything more than scribbles on the back
of a napkin? Those plans?
If you want to worry about terrorists, worry about home-grown nazis with
arsenals. What happened in Norway yesterday was the same as what
happened in OKC and Columbine here. America has much more to worry about
from native right wing fruit loops then it does from the thoroughly
defanged al Qaida.
And you know what? All that money being spent on military shit won't do
a damn bit of good against terrorists, whether they are al Qaida or
local, because the entire PURPOSE of terrorist cabels is to nullify and
even defeat vastly superior military forces.
Dave Head
1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:07:55 -0400, Dave Head wrote:
>AQ, eh. So which bridges have they blown up? Be specific, now.
They planned to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge, but were foild due to our
depriving them of proper training facilities by going and kicking
their asses in Afganistan, and waterboarding the hell out of KSM until
he gave up the name of the guy that was going to do it. They
interecepted him in I think it was either Columbus or Cincinnati,
Ohio.
Had we NOT been in Afghanistan and Iraq we might not have gotten KSM
and then we likely would NOT have known of this guy and the Brooklyn
Bridge would likely be at the bottom of the river now.
>The plans that never amounted to anything more than scribbles on the back
>of a napkin? Those plans?
Exactly. Those plans were prevented from coming to fruition due to
our armed interference in Afghanistan and Iraq. If we had never gone
to the middle east, we likely would be witnessing these attacks
succeed, and maybe you would even have to worry about getting blown up
by an IED on your way to work.
>If you want to worry about terrorists, worry about home-grown nazis with
>arsenals. What happened in Norway yesterday was the same as what
>happened in OKC and Columbine here. America has much more to worry about
>from native right wing fruit loops then it does from the thoroughly
>defanged al Qaida.
We've only had one Timothy McVeigh over the years, just 1. And, if we
don't worry about the foreign terorists, we'll have the domestic
terrorist PLUS the foreign terrorists making this place a scary place
to live. Wanna allow that to happen?
>
>And you know what? All that money being spent on military shit won't do
>a damn bit of good against terrorists, whether they are al Qaida or
>local, because the entire PURPOSE of terrorist cabels is to nullify and
>even defeat vastly superior military forces.
Its not working out very well for them. They keep losing high-ranking
SOB's one after the other to our troops and to our predator drones.
6139 Dead, 1282 since 1/20/09
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:50:35 +0000 (UTC), "6139 Dead, 1282 since
> 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:07:55 -0400, Dave Head wrote: AQ, eh. So which
>>bridges have they blown up? Be specific, now.
>
> They planned to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge, but were foild due to our
> depriving them of proper training facilities by going and kicking their
> asses in Afganistan, and waterboarding the hell out of KSM until he gave
> up the name of the guy that was going to do it. They interecepted him
> in I think it was either Columbus or Cincinnati, Ohio.
Somebody in Afghanistan was planning on blowing up the Brooklyn bridge?
So who was the guy who was going to do it, and what evidence is there
that information extorted under torture was legitimate?
>
> Had we NOT been in Afghanistan and Iraq we might not have gotten KSM and
> then we likely would NOT have known of this guy and the Brooklyn Bridge
> would likely be at the bottom of the river now.
>
Um, bubbles? Khalid was captured in Pakistan.
Not Iraq. Not Afghanistan.
I note that he also claimed under torture that if OBL were captured or
killed, a massive nuclear explosion would go off in a major European city.
Care to tell us which city was destroyed?
Dave Head
1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote:
Look, bonehead, we're not getting the domestic attacks 'cuz we've
disrupted their ability to do that by killing them a lot, and
depriving them of the training areas they need to train people how to
make bombs go boom. The NY Times Square bomber's stuff didn't go boom
'cuz his training sucked, and he didn't have a clue why his bomb
didn't explode after it failed to do so.
Get a life. Your pacifist drivel would just lead to the war being
fought here, every day, and maybe you'd die and may I'd die WITHOUT
going to Afghanistan or Iraq. I'm 64 years old, I retire in 23 weeks
and 6 days, and if I'm lucky, 12 of the weeks will be spent in Iraq
assisting our troops in testing an anti-IED "device" which is all I'm
going to say about it this publically. If its successful there, we'll
save a lot of Americans. I imagine that doesn't mean much to you, but
it does to me. But that's how we advance our abilities to protect
this country, by taking the fight to the enemy. Why don't you grow a
pair and get on board, and quit whining about the poor, downtrodden
terrorists that we kill. They deserve it.
6139 Dead, 1282 since 1/20/09
Actually, the only effective weapon is good intelligence. As for bombing
the shit out of people in Iraq and Afghanistan, I'll bet that the next
successful attack on America will come from someone whose daughter's
weddig was bombed by Americans, or Pakistani family was wiped out by an
American drone.
We're creating far more future enemies than we're eliminating.
>
> Get a life. Your pacifist drivel would just lead to the war being
> fought here, every day, and maybe you'd die and may I'd die WITHOUT
> going to Afghanistan or Iraq. I'm 64 years old, I retire in 23 weeks
> and 6 days, and if I'm lucky, 12 of the weeks will be spent in Iraq
> assisting our troops in testing an anti-IED "device" which is all I'm
> going to say about it this publically. If its successful there, we'll
> save a lot of Americans. I imagine that doesn't mean much to you, but
> it does to me. But that's how we advance our abilities to protect this
> country, by taking the fight to the enemy. Why don't you grow a pair
> and get on board, and quit whining about the poor, downtrodden
> terrorists that we kill. They deserve it.
64, and you're still a fucking imbecile. I very seriously doubt the
veracity of any of your other claims.
Steve
1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>Actually, the only effective weapon is good intelligence.
Good grief, here's a obese, epileptic, diabetic adult diaper wearing
alcoholic pretending he knows something about fighting terrorism...
It's clear that finance and economics will never be the
strong suits of Jamieson or Shook. See below:
"companies are literally hoarding "cash." And by
definition, if they have the cash, it's not in
circulation. Money is zero-sum, which means, every
dollar a company holds onto is a dollar that isn't
in circulation. "
--Milt Shook
.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/a3be1dd3b08297bb?hl=en
"Bubbles, YOU'RE the one saying if we take money out of
general circulation, the economy will improve."
--David (Zepp) Jamieson stupidly claiming that corporate
cash reserves "take money out of circulation"
.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/9d77036a53c7a52c?hl=en
Canyon Note:
There's two kinds of cash... there's currency and then there's
non-currency cash like your checking and saving's account,
and the cash equivalents... only currency is what can be taken
out of circulation, whle the noncurrency cash is only a
reference to some unspecified currency, which, of course,
is in circulation.
Dave Head
1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>
>> Look, bonehead, we're not getting the domestic attacks 'cuz we've
>> disrupted their ability to do that by killing them a lot, and depriving
>> them of the training areas they need to train people how to make bombs
>> go boom. The NY Times Square bomber's stuff didn't go boom 'cuz his
>> training sucked, and he didn't have a clue why his bomb didn't explode
>> after it failed to do so.
>
>Actually, the only effective weapon is good intelligence. As for bombing
>the shit out of people in Iraq and Afghanistan, I'll bet that the next
>successful attack on America will come from someone whose daughter's
>weddig was bombed by Americans, or Pakistani family was wiped out by an
>American drone.
We don't bomb weddings. We have software to be able to bomb targets
and NOT damage nearby objects. You'd be amazed at what can be done,
but its all classified, so I can't go into it.
>We're creating far more future enemies than we're eliminating.
You know nothing.
You should see the FRIENDS we created in Kuwait when we kicked the
Iraqi's out.
>> Get a life. Your pacifist drivel would just lead to the war being
>> fought here, every day, and maybe you'd die and may I'd die WITHOUT
>> going to Afghanistan or Iraq. I'm 64 years old, I retire in 23 weeks
>> and 6 days, and if I'm lucky, 12 of the weeks will be spent in Iraq
>> assisting our troops in testing an anti-IED "device" which is all I'm
>> going to say about it this publically. If its successful there, we'll
>> save a lot of Americans. I imagine that doesn't mean much to you, but
>> it does to me. But that's how we advance our abilities to protect this
>> country, by taking the fight to the enemy. Why don't you grow a pair
>> and get on board, and quit whining about the poor, downtrodden
>> terrorists that we kill. They deserve it.
>
>64, and you're still a fucking imbecile. I very seriously doubt the
>veracity of any of your other claims.
You can always rely on usenet for a personal insult, anytime,
anywhere. As for the other, I'm a DoD civilian engineer, and yeah, we
get opportunities to volunter to do such things in the war zones. Did
so from 2007 - 2008, for 3 months, in Baghdad. This next duty, if I
get it, will be all over Iraq. With any luck, I'll have a hand in
saving some soldiers, always my main reason for doing it. There's
lotsa reasons to do it, but that's the main one. Yeah, the money's
good, which feels alright until you get hit by a sniper with a .50, so
its a gamble to do it at all. But I read recently that they surveyed
a bunch of really old people, 90+ years old and nearing the end of
their lives, what their biggest regrets were. The most popular answer
was, "The risks I didn't take." That's good enough for me.
6139 Dead, 1282 since 1/20/09
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:18:27 +0000 (UTC), "6139 Dead, 1282 since
> 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Look, bonehead, we're not getting the domestic attacks 'cuz we've
>>> disrupted their ability to do that by killing them a lot, and
>>> depriving them of the training areas they need to train people how to
>>> make bombs go boom. The NY Times Square bomber's stuff didn't go boom
>>> 'cuz his training sucked, and he didn't have a clue why his bomb
>>> didn't explode after it failed to do so.
>>
>>Actually, the only effective weapon is good intelligence. As for
>>bombing the shit out of people in Iraq and Afghanistan, I'll bet that
>>the next successful attack on America will come from someone whose
>>daughter's weddig was bombed by Americans, or Pakistani family was wiped
>>out by an American drone.
>
> We don't bomb weddings.
...ok, you're just a fucking joke.
Run along, little troll.
Pester some of your fellow children.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:37:09 +0000 (UTC), "6139 Dead, 1282 since
>
Yeah, abandon the country and our own population will be crying for
change, as when Rome fell in 410AD. It's not even that they don't
spend the money, but they dump it down the drain such as around
here... A million buck beach promenade. That's a conservative amount
for a mile of asphalt.
Same in Afghanistan. CORRUPTION IS OUR MAIN ENEMY.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:18:27 +0000 (UTC), "6139 Dead, 1282 since
>
Didn't we agree before that that meant "RIDING A BICYCLE"?
I'm getting more and more aggressive at it. I just cut off a car
turning with the green arrow. How much more suicidal you want me to
get?
The police even followed and told me if I was rode as an idiot. But,
under the law of the jungle you must make the first move.