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Keith

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Aug 1, 2001, 5:36:29 AM8/1/01
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Apparently within the past couple days Shawn's been busy showing new pictures
of the Yamato's. Not even Cat in all seriousness have any gripes with their
current state. Look at the damned things, they're absolutely perfect. Yes the
legs remove to transform, but who gives a shit when they come out that
beautiful.

http://216.97.127.75/macross/temp/hj_0901p1.jpg

http://216.97.127.75/macross/toys/yamato_vf1/_yamato_vf1.htm

Hell, you even get dinky little pilot figures to stick in the cockpit, the
contrived Toyami's literally have nothing on these except for appearing more
like VF-2JA's.

Taka/Bandai re-release? Too little, too late. The Yamato's will reign as the
perfect VF-1 toy.

~Keith
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Tenshi no enogu de nurikaeruyo
Omoinomamani -Lynn Minmay
~~~
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Godmars

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Aug 1, 2001, 10:08:12 AM8/1/01
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In article <20010801053629...@ng-fb1.aol.com>, keithl78
@aol.com says...

> Apparently within the past couple days Shawn's been busy showing new pictures
> of the Yamato's. Not even Cat in all seriousness have any gripes with their
> current state.

No, I do, I just don't post them here. ;0)

> Look at the damned things, they're absolutely perfect.

Except you have to remove the legs to transfform it, and the nose looks
horrible with that odd tip on it....looking like those rubber noses they
used to have on those Decepitcon jets.

Besides all of that, they are small, which probably also means, just
like the YF1-9 and 21, that they are far more fragile than the original
1/55's were. Would anyone really want to put down their money on a
product made by a company that has had serious quality control issues in
the past?

Thanks anyways, I'll be saving my money for a BanDai Takatuko 1/55
Strike Valk.

> Yes the
> legs remove to transform, but who gives a shit when they come out that
> beautiful.
>
> http://216.97.127.75/macross/temp/hj_0901p1.jpg
>
> http://216.97.127.75/macross/toys/yamato_vf1/_yamato_vf1.htm
>
> Hell, you even get dinky little pilot figures to stick in the cockpit, the
> contrived Toyami's literally have nothing on these except for appearing more
> like VF-2JA's.
>
> Taka/Bandai re-release? Too little, too late. The Yamato's will reign as the
> perfect VF-1 toy.

And they'll outsell the Yamato's hands down. Check the Macross World Toy
forum's, the 1/55's are all they talk about.
>
> ~Keith

--
God

O.D.

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Aug 1, 2001, 1:46:28 PM8/1/01
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The Godmars foresees it, and so it is true--

LONG LIVE THE GODMARS!! @_@


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Godmars

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Aug 1, 2001, 2:01:25 PM8/1/01
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In article <UfX97.2701$Y6.12...@news3.rdc2.on.home.com>, ross_01
@hotmail.com says...

> The Godmars foresees it, and so it is true--
>
> LONG LIVE THE GODMARS!! @_@
>
>

I just don't see why some people are so eager to except the kind of
shotty workmanship Yamato puts into their toys.

And speaking of shotty workmanship, has anybody gotten the Akira DVD?
Can you say "holy line enhancement, Batman!"? They have a great package,
great menus, clean the film up, and then RUIN it by destroying the fluid
lines of the animation, and making them look jagged and unnatural. The
line enhancement is so obvious and prevalent that its distracting.

--
God

Comic-Kaze

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Aug 1, 2001, 2:12:03 PM8/1/01
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The thing Keith doesn't realize is that the pictures on the top with the
missile assortment and mini figures are actually the Hasegawa Fast Pack
model kit. Yamato's will be Pilotless as usual.

-Jeremy

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Skeletor64

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Aug 1, 2001, 4:21:40 PM8/1/01
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>The Godmars foresees it, and so it is true--
>
>LONG LIVE THE GODMARS!! @_@

Heh. Well, while I hope he's wrong about the upcoming VF-1's, I wouldn't mind
if the Takatoku remakes are vastly superior.

-Jeff Jhee

David H.

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Aug 1, 2001, 5:54:07 PM8/1/01
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>I wouldn't mind
>if the Takatoku remakes are vastly superior.
>

According to ToyboxDX, they are the original, actual VF-1J molds, not a remake.
(They weren't "lost" or "unusable" afterall----hmmmm)

David H.
(please remove "nospam" to reply via e-mail)

Isamu Kazama

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Aug 2, 2001, 4:01:27 AM8/2/01
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In article <20010801175407...@ng-fy1.aol.com>,
ncc4...@aol.comnospam (David H.) wrote:

>According to ToyboxDX, they are the original, actual VF-1J molds, not a remake.
> (They weren't "lost" or "unusable" afterall----hmmmm)

Website? Magazine? Secret government pamphlet?

More info pls. ;)

--
- Isamu "Dangerous" Kazama
"It's Red Riding Hood, except not as violent." - My friend on JIN-ROH
I hate Gran Turismo games.

Isamu Kazama

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Aug 2, 2001, 4:01:34 AM8/2/01
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In article <MPG.15d1d758d...@news.rcn.com>, Godmars
<ple...@nomail.com> wrote:

>Besides all of that, they are small, which probably also means, just
>like the YF1-9 and 21, that they are far more fragile than the original
>1/55's were. Would anyone really want to put down their money on a
>product made by a company that has had serious quality control issues in
>the past?
>
>Thanks anyways, I'll be saving my money for a BanDai Takatuko 1/55
>Strike Valk.

Couldn't have said it better... as much as I like Yamato's work (and the
figs themselves) so far, the construction on the figures is poorly done at
best, as the damn things seem to fall apart in any given place whenever
the wind blows (and one peek at any Macross board will confirm this).

And whether or not you agree, I don't wanna pull the legs off my goddamn
Valkyrie to transform. :)

David H.

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Aug 2, 2001, 4:22:40 AM8/2/01
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>
>Website? Magazine? Secret government pamphlet?

Toyboxdx.com

(I also added an "n" to the subject line--"Toyami" was bugging me---led to
weird Sailor Mercury mental pictures ::shudders::

O.D.

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Aug 2, 2001, 4:46:40 AM8/2/01
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Don't you see what Yamato has done for you?!

Now when the legs fall off after a 2-foot dive to the floor, you can easily
stick the legs back on without costly repair!

The by-product of this innovation is a more accurate profile in all modes!!!

(*Oh forget it. Buy a TAKA!! @_@)


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Paul Santa Cruz

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Aug 2, 2001, 11:09:04 PM8/2/01
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:01:25 -0400, Godmars <ple...@nomail.com> wrote:

>In article <UfX97.2701$Y6.12...@news3.rdc2.on.home.com>, ross_01
>@hotmail.com says...
>> The Godmars foresees it, and so it is true--
>>
>> LONG LIVE THE GODMARS!! @_@
>>
>>
>
>I just don't see why some people are so eager to except the kind of
>shotty workmanship Yamato puts into their toys.
>
>And speaking of shotty workmanship, has anybody gotten the Akira DVD?
>Can you say "holy line enhancement, Batman!"? They have a great package,
>great menus, clean the film up, and then RUIN it by destroying the fluid
>lines of the animation, and making them look jagged and unnatural. The
>line enhancement is so obvious and prevalent that its distracting.
>

I just got my Akira DVDs, so I'll have to check that out.

-Paul, who long with Macross, is waiting for "The Godfather" DVD box
set coming out in October

Godmars

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Aug 2, 2001, 11:12:39 PM8/2/01
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In article <3b6a1505.42369054@news>, pot...@home.com says...

> On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:01:25 -0400, Godmars <ple...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <UfX97.2701$Y6.12...@news3.rdc2.on.home.com>, ross_01
> >@hotmail.com says...
> >> The Godmars foresees it, and so it is true--
> >>
> >> LONG LIVE THE GODMARS!! @_@
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I just don't see why some people are so eager to except the kind of
> >shotty workmanship Yamato puts into their toys.
> >
> >And speaking of shotty workmanship, has anybody gotten the Akira DVD?
> >Can you say "holy line enhancement, Batman!"? They have a great package,
> >great menus, clean the film up, and then RUIN it by destroying the fluid
> >lines of the animation, and making them look jagged and unnatural. The
> >line enhancement is so obvious and prevalent that its distracting.
> >
>
> I just got my Akira DVDs, so I'll have to check that out.

You don' thave to check for it, dude, you can't fucking miss it.


>
> -Paul, who long with Macross, is waiting for "The Godfather" DVD box
> set coming out in October
>

--
God

Paul Santa Cruz

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Aug 2, 2001, 11:30:44 PM8/2/01
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:12:39 -0400, Godmars <ple...@nomail.com> wrote:

>>
>> I just got my Akira DVDs, so I'll have to check that out.
>
>You don' thave to check for it, dude, you can't fucking miss it.
>>
>> -Paul, who long with Macross, is waiting for "The Godfather" DVD box
>> set coming out in October
>>
>
>--
>God

Hmmmmmm...... bummer.

Guess I'll just watch my Robotech DVDs then. They didn't fiddle with
the quality of those. :)

-Paul

Keith

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Aug 3, 2001, 1:43:09 AM8/3/01
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>Except you have to remove the legs to transfform it,

Problem being what? Psst, you also have to remove the gunpod to place it in the
hand, and hell, remove a hand to replace it with a trigger hand. Get over it.

>and the nose looks
>horrible with that odd tip on it....looking like those rubber noses they
>used to have on those Decepitcon jets.

Now you're just being anal, there's no problem with the nosecone.

>Besides all of that, they are small, which probably also means, just
>like the YF1-9 and 21, that they are far more fragile than the original
>1/55's were. Would anyone really want to put down their money on a
>product made by a company that has had serious quality control issues in
>the past?

They're most likely going to be between 1/72 & 1/65 scale, hardly miniature.
Worries of fragility in the simple VF-1 design is just plain idiotic. It'll
transform 90% like all VF-1 toys released in the past, aside from the
detatchable legs. Just because you got a first gen defective YF-19 (mine being
a version 2 that's survived through many trouble free transformations) hardly
gives you reason to condemn the whole line. The only problematic release has
been that first version YF-19.

>Thanks anyways, I'll be saving my money for a BanDai Takatuko 1/55
>Strike Valk.

You can save all you want, but it'll never come. Do you honestly believe Bandai
will release past the VF-1J?

Godmars

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Aug 3, 2001, 11:33:38 AM8/3/01
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In article <20010803014309...@mb-mh.aol.com>, keithl78
@aol.com says...

> >Except you have to remove the legs to transfform it,
>
> Problem being what? Psst, you also have to remove the gunpod to place it in the
> hand, and hell, remove a hand to replace it with a trigger hand. Get over it.
>
> >and the nose looks
> >horrible with that odd tip on it....looking like those rubber noses they
> >used to have on those Decepitcon jets.
>
> Now you're just being anal, there's no problem with the nosecone.
>
> >Besides all of that, they are small, which probably also means, just
> >like the YF1-9 and 21, that they are far more fragile than the original
> >1/55's were. Would anyone really want to put down their money on a
> >product made by a company that has had serious quality control issues in
> >the past?
>
> They're most likely going to be between 1/72 & 1/65 scale, hardly miniature.
> Worries of fragility in the simple VF-1 design is just plain idiotic. It'll
> transform 90% like all VF-1 toys released in the past, aside from the
> detatchable legs. Just because you got a first gen defective YF-19 (mine being
> a version 2 that's survived through many trouble free transformations) hardly
> gives you reason to condemn the whole line. The only problematic release has
> been that first version YF-19.
>
> >Thanks anyways, I'll be saving my money for a BanDai Takatuko 1/55
> >Strike Valk.
>
> You can save all you want, but it'll never come. Do you honestly believe Bandai
> will release past the VF-1J?
>
> ~Keith

Well, from all I have been reading, that seems to be the plan, Keith.
And, BTW, remnoving the legs is alot different from removing the gunpod.

--
God

Yoshi

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Aug 3, 2001, 12:09:47 PM8/3/01
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>You can save all you want, but it'll never come. Do you honestly believe
>Bandai
>will release past the VF-1J?

I agree with Keith.
First, there are very very few chances of seeing the Bandai DYRL Valkyries.
Since Yamato purchased the license for the DYRL toys to Big West, Bandai is
left with the SDF Macross toys.
I think that's why the toys are "Re-release of the Takatoku toys by Bandai",
and no "Re-release of the Bandai toys".

Furthermore, knowing how Bandai treated Macross for 20 years, they'll probably
release
only the VF-1J, and, in the heat of the 20th, the Super VF-1S .
For Bandai, Macross has always been and is still a secondary license, a good
way to make some more cash but not a big thing to take care.

At best they will re-release the others Takatoku, (VF-1S, VF-1A, Max, Milia and
the GBP-1S) but I'm really sceptical about that.

Plus I bet the packaging will be gay (look at the Mac7 re-issues or even at
the Yamato).

---
Yoshi

Godmars

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Aug 3, 2001, 12:16:22 PM8/3/01
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In article <20010803120947...@ng-bj1.aol.com>,
ijuinyo...@aol.comnospam says...
Who cares WTF the packaging will be like???? That has GOT to be the
stupidist thing I have ever heard. Fine, waste your money on Yamato crap
like other's have been doing for the better part of a year, and I'll
laugh at you like I laugh at all of them when they complain about flimsy
toys, broken and missing parts, and problems getting defective toys
replaced.

--
God

Tolynn

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Aug 3, 2001, 12:43:19 PM8/3/01
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> waste your money on Yamato crap like other's have been doing for the better part of a year, and I'll
>laugh at you like I laugh at all of them

I own the following:
YF-19 (ver2)
YF-21
VF-11

All came complete.

All transform perfectly.

None are broken or even showing signs of excessive wear.

Haven't you beat this horse enough?

Godmars

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Aug 3, 2001, 12:43:55 PM8/3/01
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In article <10llmtoo6akd0fhtl...@4ax.com>, te...@test.com
says...

Not as long as people are posting on it.

--
God

Tolynn

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Aug 3, 2001, 12:48:10 PM8/3/01
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>Not as long as people are posting on it.

Your the only one I see complaining.

Yoshi

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Aug 3, 2001, 2:01:39 PM8/3/01
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>Who cares WTF the packaging will be like????

I care, and so do a bunch of customers.
Com'on, when you're buying a 6800Y toy which is furthermore labeled "limited
release", you're in the right of asking a nice packaging, something better than
a crappy box that looks like a cheap Taiwan bootleg.
That doesn't mean I'm not going to buy the 1/55 release(s), the Taka being THE
Macross toy by excellence.


---
Yoshi

O.D.

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Aug 3, 2001, 2:48:56 PM8/3/01
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Because you haven't been paying much attention.

Take a trip over to the Macrossworld.com forum board...


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Godmars

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Aug 3, 2001, 2:58:41 PM8/3/01
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In article <smCa7.4628$Y6.26...@news3.rdc2.on.home.com>, ross_01
@hotmail.com says...

> Because you haven't been paying much attention.
>
> Take a trip over to the Macrossworld.com forum board...

Macrossworld Forum is down, O.D. There was nowhere to point him too.

But, you are correct, my friend ;0)


>
>
> "Tolynn" <te...@test.com> wrote in message
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> > >Not as long as people are posting on it.
> >
> > Your the only one I see complaining.
> >
>
>
>

--
God

O.D.

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Aug 3, 2001, 3:18:36 PM8/3/01
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The board won't be down forever.

Macross Fandom depends on it, LOL


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Keith

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Aug 5, 2001, 11:24:58 AM8/5/01
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>Well, from all I have been reading, that seems to be the plan, Keith.
>And, BTW, remnoving the legs is alot different from removing the gunpod.
>
>--
>God

Removing the legs is hardly the significant bitch you're making it out to be,
nor is it anything major to begin with. Most certainly a worthwhile trade off
to get rid of the annoying hindge that blocks the side of the cokcpit.

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