Is Dave Here?
Alan Page
foxysc...@yahoo.com
No, Dave's not here, but let's pretend.
Many Happy Returns of the Day, Dave -
xxoo Shirlee
pfleet
> > Happy Da
> > Birthday ve
> No, Dave's not here, but let's pretend.
> Many Happy Returns of the Day, Dave -
> xxoo Shirlee
Count me in. Sending Dave a big birthday <smooch>!
randwill
I dreamed last night that I worked for him and I suggested that he add a
third "what" to "What?! WHAT??!!" and he told me he'd think about it.
Boston_Bill
Ditto.
Gary
> On Apr 12, 8:36 am, "Alan Page" <alp...@spamsucceed.net> wrote:
>
> No, Dave's not here, but let's pretend.
Really? If Dave knows how to use a computer and goes on the net, its
not beyond the bounds of possibility that he might be here sometimes.
I mean, he's biggest fans are here. He's only human, and when bored
just might want to check out what people are saying. It's not that
crazy.
I've never been totally convinced that "Dave isn't here".
So Happy Da, Birthday ve.
Gary
Helen Read
I really doubt that Dave has any clue how to get to AFL. And if he did,
he'd probably stay far far away.
Happy Da, Birthday Ve anyway.
--
HPR
Twibil
>
>
> Really? If Dave knows how to use a computer and goes on the net, its
> not beyond the bounds of possibility that he might be here sometimes.
> I mean, he's biggest fans are here. He's only human, and when bored
> just might want to check out what people are saying. It's not that
> crazy.
>
> I've never been totally convinced that "Dave isn't here".
No reason not to wish him a happy birthday, but Dave isn't exactly the
sort of guy who revels in the massed presence of his adoring fans.
Matter of fact, he seems to revel in public interactions of any sort
less and less with each passing birthday.
Rather than being the classic Jerry Lewis style show-biz clown who is
always "on", Dave strikes me as being a very self-contained and
private person who just happened to be blessed/cursed with an ironic
wit that ended up earning him a good living.
But had someone offered him a choice of professions that all offered
the same financial rewards, I'd bet a substantial sum that he'd have
chosen one that kept him out of the limelight.
~Pete
Kath
Happy Birthday Dave Letterman!
Kath
Sally
>
> - Show quoted text -
This gives me an idea: Happy Dave, Oy Vey. (He's already 64?
Unbelievable.) We've spent decades of our lives watching him. Decades!
Sally
Tony Linguini
Time does fly. I remember sending Dave a homemade birthday card for his
40th birthday when I was in high school.
katycren
> On Apr 12, 8:36 am, "Alan Page" <alp...@spamsucceed.net> wrote:
>
> > Happy Da
> > Birthday ve
>
> > --
>
> > Alan
>
> No, Dave's not here, but let's pretend.
>
Happy, happy birthday, Dave!
Hope you let Harry blow out the candles on your birthday cake.
Hugs,
Kate
Jess Band-EE-Coot
> But had someone offered him a choice of professions that all offered
> the same financial rewards, I'd bet a substantial sum that he'd have
> chosen one that kept him out of the limelight.
>
> ~Pete
I couldn't disagree more. Showbiz folks such as Dave need that applause
and laughter like you or I need the air.
It's the spinach that fuels their ego.
Without it, they wallow in self-pity and depression.
--
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"Girls who put out are tramps. Girls who don't are ladies.
This is, however, a rather archaic usage of the word.
Should one of you boys happen upon a girl who doesn't put out,
do not jump to the conclusion that you have found a lady.
What you have probably found is a lesbian.”
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R H Draney
>
>On 4/12/2011 11:22 PM, Twibil wrote:
>
>> But had someone offered him a choice of professions that all offered
>> the same financial rewards, I'd bet a substantial sum that he'd have
>> chosen one that kept him out of the limelight.
>>
>> ~Pete
>
>I couldn't disagree more. Showbiz folks such as Dave need that applause
>and laughter like you or I need the air.
>It's the spinach that fuels their ego.
>Without it, they wallow in self-pity and depression.
Spinach?...r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Kath
> On 4/12/2011 11:22 PM, Twibil wrote:
>
> > But had someone offered him a choice of professions that all offered
> > the same financial rewards, I'd bet a substantial sum that he'd have
> > chosen one that kept him out of the limelight.
>
> > ~Pete
>
> I couldn't disagree more. Showbiz folks such as Dave need that applause
> and laughter like you or I need the air.
> It's the spinach that fuels their ego.
> Without it, they wallow in self-pity and depression.
>
Show biz hardens people. People in show biz want to be separated and
set apart from others, that is why the culture is the way that it is.
Dave works in a culture of fake nonsense and ridiculous money, he
wouldn't have lived that crap for 40 years if he didn't want to be in
show biz.
The Late Show has its ups and downs, it is a frivolous time waste for
the most part, but the show tries to have fun and does mix it with
knowledge.
Kath
Jess Band-EE-Coot
> Jess Band-EE-Coot filted:
>> I couldn't disagree more. Showbiz folks such as Dave need that applause
>> and laughter like you or I need the air.
>> It's the spinach that fuels their ego.
>> Without it, they wallow in self-pity and depression.
>
> Spinach?...r
>
>
See: Popeye
Sally
He loves the warmth of the spotlight that real life can't provide.
Sally
R H Draney
>
>On Apr 16, 12:20=A0pm, Jess Band-EE-Coot <BandEEC...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4/16/2011 4:54 AM, R H Draney wrote:
>>
>> > Jess Band-EE-Coot filted:
>e
>> >> and laughter like you or I need the air.
>> >> It's the spinach that fuels their ego.
>> >> Without it, they wallow in self-pity and depression.
>>
>> > Spinach?...r
>>
>> See: Popeye
>
I remain bewildered...spinach provides warmth?...r
Twibil
>
>
> > But had someone offered him a choice of professions that all offered
> > the same financial rewards, I'd bet a substantial sum that he'd have
> > chosen one that kept him out of the limelight.
>
> and laughter like you or I need the air.
Please tell me that you're just trolling and aren't really dumb enough
to belive that stuff.
I *am* one of those "Showbiz folks", have been for 50 years, and the
fact is that "Showbiz folks" are as different from each other as any
other random group that you could collect on an average street corner.
Some are drinkers. Some are teetotalers. Some are sex addicts. Some
abstain for religious reasons. Some are manic types who are always
"on'. Some have completely different personas on stage and off. And
some are dedicated hams who *do* live for the applause, but many are
not; and would just as soon never climb back up on a stage if they
could get away with it.
> It's the spinach that fuels their ego.
> Without it, they wallow in self-pity and depression.
I suggest that you go out and aquaint yourself with several dozen show
biz professionals.. You will find that they differ from each other in
far more ways than they are alike.
Twibil
>
>
> Show biz hardens people.
Um, *life* hardens people, dear.
> People in show biz want to be separated and
> set apart from others, that is why the culture is the way that it is.
I suggest you ask a few dozen professionals what *they* think about
that concept rather than simply announcing your opinions -ex-
cathedra- as if they were factual.
In fact, most of the well-known show biz types I've known bemoan the
fact that they can't go out in public without being persued to
distraction by (A) thier adoring public and (B) the pond-scum
paparazzi.
Kath
Twibil, my opinions are always expressed as my opinions this time I
forgot to add the imo.
You get so touchy and have to resort to religious terminology to shut
someone down who doesn't agree?
I wouldn't do that to you. No I haven't done research into this and
asked professionals what they thought. The pond scum and adoring
public do make them bemoan, but the two wouldn't exist in a culture of
the entainer and the entertainee, never the twain. The art of the
illusion is the illusion. That is soley my point.
Kath
Twibil
>
>
> > > Show biz hardens people.
>
> > Um, *life* hardens people, dear.
>
> > > People in show biz want to be separated and
> > > set apart from others, that is why the culture is the way that it is.
>
> > I suggest you ask a few dozen professionals what *they* think about
> > that concept rather than simply announcing your opinions -ex-
> > cathedra- as if they were factual.
>
> > In fact, most of the well-known show biz types I've known bemoan the
> > fact that they can't go out in public without being persued to
> > distraction by (A) thier adoring public and (B) the pond-scum
> > paparazzi.
>
> Twibil, my opinions are always expressed as my opinions this time I
> forgot to add the imo.
> You get so touchy and have to resort to religious terminology to shut
> someone down who doesn't agree?
Come now: "have to resort to"? I used "ex-cathedra" because it was a
fitting description of what you did -not because I "had to"- and this
isn't a case where your opinion should be valued simply because it
happens to be your opinion. You were quite frankly talking through
the roof of your hat.
BTW: I also get touchy when I see someone saying -or implying- that
(A) blacks all dance well and love chitlins, (B) Mexicans are all
ignorant, (C) Italians are all mobbed up, (D) race drivers are all bad
talk show guests, (E) Puerto Ricans are all dirty, or, (F) women all
belong in the kitchen -barefoot, silent, and pregnant.
Saying -as you did- "People in show biz want to be separated and set
apart from others, that is why the culture is the way that it is."
amounts to exactly the same thing: thoughtlessly assuming that it's
possible to describe everyone in show business with one cliche'd
insult. (And yes; unintentional or not, you did just insult
practically everyone in show business with that line.)
Kath
>
Yes it was an applied generalisation to the sociology of the
entertainment culture. Not a specific. You don't agree I got it.
Now getting back to the point of the thread, I still don't agree with
your assumption and do not think Dave would have swapped professions.
My reasons you disagree with. Cool.
Kath
Kath
>
Just to add an apology Twibil, didn't mean to insult you. I have had a
difficult week, my business is slow and I got 20 staff on the books
and don't want to lay off anyone, my general manager has bowel cancer,
and my hubby just had spinal surgery and is recovering with
difficulty. I can say there is a negative cynacism that isn't usually
with me.
Kath
Sally
Kath,
I have spent many years training to be an opera singer and also
studying acting in NYC.
On two occasions I've been told directly by an acting teacher and a
singing teacher, both with great credentials and experience in show
business, that it's best to "build a little wall" around your heart at
auditions and while receiving criticism if you want to succeed, or you
will suffer much psychological pain. So in terms of show business
"hardening" people, I would tend to agree that actors and singers
learn to have thicker skins than the average accountant (not to
disparage accountants, who may indeed be sensitive,) simply because if
they didn't toughen up, they couldn't function with cruel directors,
endless auditions, nasty conductors or rejection, which is always
there in the form of critics, audiences, competitors and even their
parents.
How many times has Dave told the story of how "crushed" he was after
his mother first came to see him perform, came backstage, said nothing
to him, and then announced it was time for her to go? Evidently, he
learned to call her undemonstrative as opposed to letting it "crush"
him again and again. Smart thinking. There's a reason being in show
biz pays so well. It takes lots of courage and self-mastery to be able
to survive the pressures.
Sally
Jess Band-EE-Coot
Seriously?
Popeye got his muscles when he ate Spinach.
Dave Letterman gets his "muscles" from applause and laughter.
Um, yeah.
Jess Band-EE-Coot
I'm already very acquainted with several hundred "show biz pro's", and
the main thing *most* of them have in common is the need to
create, to get feedback from an audience and to satisfy that part of
them that wants to be showered with adulation. In short, many (not all)
want the fame.
But rather than listen to you make an argument that I'm generalizing,
let's apply this to the subject at hand's (David Letterman) specific
needs: Dave is a comedian. Comedians like to get laughs. Laughs are a
form of love. Dave wants to be loved. He could have stayed a weather
man, but he obviously wanted more. He wanted to be Johnny Carson.
Whomever suggested that he would have probably preferred to do
something outside of showbiz with his life is so far off the mark in
Dave's case, that I have to question if they've ever read an interview
or listened to him speak. Clearly that person has no grasp on what
make's Dave tick.
Jess Band-EE-Coot
> Clearly that person has no grasp on what make's Dave tick.
*makes
Twibil
The usual crap.
Wherein it is assumed that the poster knows all about everything; and
is qualified to judge it all as well as pronounce upon it's veracity.
Shrug.
Jess Band-EE-Coot
That's one hell of an argument you made there to the contrary.
I concede. Dave never wanted to be in showbiz.
He was kidnapped 40 years ago and forced to be on TV.
SHhhhhh!
Jess Band-EE-Coot
> sort of guy who revels in the massed presence of his adoring fans.
> Matter of fact, he seems to revel in public interactions of any sort
> less and less with each passing birthday.
You claim that *I* think I know it all about Dave?
Then don't make statements like the above --
you make yourself look like a hypocrite.
R H Draney
>
>On 4/18/2011 1:49 AM, Twibil wrote:
>> On Apr 17, 8:13 pm, Jess Band-EE-Coot<BandEEC...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The usual crap.
>>
>> Wherein it is assumed that the poster knows all about everything; and
>> is qualified to judge it all as well as pronounce upon it's veracity.
>>
>> Shrug.
>
>
>That's one hell of an argument you made there to the contrary.
>I concede. Dave never wanted to be in showbiz.
>He was kidnapped 40 years ago and forced to be on TV.
>SHhhhhh!
Was that before or after he was raised by poodles?...r
Jess Band-EE-Coot
Haha! He *was* raised by poodles, wasn't he?
I forgot that detail.