Lukewarm heating - 1996 D1 V8i
Andy
say lukewarm. Any ideas what the cause maybe? The engine temp gauge holds
steady at just below the half way mark and on tickover it does get a bit
warmer in the cabin, once I start driving though the temp from the vents
drops.
Andy
Neil
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Lee_D
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Does it take long to warm up? Could the the thermostat is missing or stuck
open.
Lee D
Andy
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Warms up pretty quickly, coolant levels OK
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Lee_D
Heater may be air locked. Pull 1 hose off and ram a hose on it. turn the
hose on full and give the matrix a good blast through then reconnect the
hoses.
Lee D
Dougal
> stuck open.
>
> Lee D
... does the thermostat have the highest appropriate working temperature
(88 degree C)?
Is there an air lock in the heater circuit?
If there's a viscous-coupled fan is it working properly? It should run
noiseily for about 30 seconds from start and then quieten noticeably.
Does the red indication on the selector correspond with fully
closed/open the flaps in the air distribution box? You'll probably have
to give this a miss as unless the heater is out on the floor it's not
easy to determine what does what! By taking off the floor outlets you
may be able to check that the flap seals are not totally sha**ed. Any
hoses dropped off the air ducting?
Andy
> hose on full and give the matrix a good blast through then reconnect the
> hoses.
>
> Lee D
Yeh, someone else suggested this. Where are the hoses though as I haven't a
clue :-)
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Andy
Lee_D
> Yeh, someone else suggested this. Where are the hoses though as I haven't
> a clue :-)
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> Andy
>
Unless they have been moved they sit centrally bewteen the valley. Just
above and disapear through the bulkhead. If I'm not mistaken its actually
the matrix pipes peeping in to the engine bay.
Lee
Andy
> above and disapear through the bulkhead. If I'm not mistaken its actually
> the matrix pipes peeping in to the engine bay.
>
> Lee
Right, located the two heater pipes, squeezing them causes the water in the
expansion tank to bubble so deffo the right ones :-)
Any tips on how to get rid of the suspected airlock then please? Is it just
a simple case of disconnecting one pipe and putting a hose to it and running
it through? Assume water will then spill over from the expansion tank? Or
should I disconnect both hoses and flush through like that?
Any advice appreciated as I have never done anything like this before and
don't want to screw up my cooling system!!
TIA
Andy
andrew
> Right, located the two heater pipes, squeezing them causes the water in
> the expansion tank to bubble so deffo the right ones :-)
And bubbling definitely suggests gas in the system!
>
> Any tips on how to get rid of the suspected airlock then please? Is it
> just a simple case of disconnecting one pipe and putting a hose to it and
> running it through?
Normally a simple case of loosening the hose at the highest point and
running the engine till the system pressurises, with a V8 stationary this
does not take long if the thermostat is working. Be aware that combustion
gases in the coolant also rise to the highest point. I never managed to
bleed the heater in my 101 until I fixed the head gasket ;-).
AJH
Andy
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> Andy wrote:
>
>> Right, located the two heater pipes, squeezing them causes the water in
>> the expansion tank to bubble so deffo the right ones :-)
>
> And bubbling definitely suggests gas in the system!
More of a swell than a bubble to be fair, guess it could be a head gasket
problem but there don't seem to be any other symptoms.
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Nige
Geta test kit, i very much doubt it tho Andy
andrew
> More of a swell than a bubble to be fair, guess it could be a head gasket
> problem but there don't seem to be any other symptoms.
>
If it's a swell then that could simply be displacement, in which case do the
heater hoses get warmer than the bottom hose? On my 110 I found it only had
the 77C thermostat and when I changed to the highest 88??C the heater was
much more effective.
AJH
Andy
Possible I guess but the heater is pretty warm when car is stationary but
the temp drops right down to cool air when moving.
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Austin Shackles
<andrew...@btinternet.com> enlightened us thusly:
try swapping the heatwer hoses over at the bulkhead end, if they're side by
side, so the water goes the other way through the matrix.
You'd be amazed at how often this works.
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Lee_D
Which takes me right back to the thermostat. If its getting warm then it
should stay warm. You would need to bleed it all anyway should you change
the thermostat and they are cheap enough to swap out if only to eliminate
it.
Lee D
Lee_D
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> try swapping the heatwer hoses over at the bulkhead end, if they're side
> by
> side, so the water goes the other way through the matrix.
>
> You'd be amazed at how often this works.
I'm thinking once? Because if you did it twice.......
I'll get my coat.
puffernutter
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> "Austin Shackles" <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESU...@ddol-las.net> wrote in
> messagenews:hli9e59j415fs8fd9...@4ax.com...
>
> > try swapping the heatwer hoses over at the bulkhead end, if they're side
> > by
> > side, so the water goes the other way through the matrix.
>
> > You'd be amazed at how often this works.
>
> I'm thinking once? Because if you did it twice.......
>
> I'll get my coat.
I know that it has been mentioned earlier in my thread by I'd noticed
that my 200Tdi was running cooler than usual and with a swap of the
thermostat everything became a lot warmer!
For the sake of a few quid it may be worth doing that.
Cheers
Peter
Austin Shackles
<newsgrou...@NOSPAMlrproject.com> enlightened us thusly:
har har.
I've done it on several vehicles. Actually, I have done it more than once
on the same vehicle, and yes, it does work second time as well.
Thesnowbaron
I have what could possibly only happen in Australia. Whenever I park for up
to a week in the bush without moving my 1993 Tdi Disko, a possum or
unlikely a bush rats start eating the under bonnet lining of my vehicle. So
far I did patch the holes with Silastic but this time one hole is about 1
foot across plus a few smaller ones.
I also also fear that hoses, cables etc. could be found by the hungry beast
to its taste.
Could anyone please suggest the best material for repair that is heat
resistant and is disliked by Australian bush animals.
Franz
Ian Rawlings
> Could anyone please suggest the best material for repair that is heat
> resistant and is disliked by Australian bush animals.
I'll pop down the local Halfords and see what they reckon!!
Would some chicken wire over it help, or something with smaller mesh?
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Lizzy Taylor
I nearly marked this as spam without opening it. Sorry to hear of your
problem - could you cut an underbonnet shaped panel of something like
expamet or weld mesh to protect the insulation?
Lizzy
Andrew T.
similar thing happened to me when I lived in Switzerland, a pine
martin ate half my rad top hose, didn't notice for a few miles..... It
is a common problem, so much so that it is normally covered by your
insurance there. Only thing I saw to stop it, was that people put up a
small fence (12-18 inches high) of chicken wire tight around the car
every time it was parked up, so the blighters couldn't get underneath
and then into the engine bay.
Andrew
Alan Pond
Ian Rawlings <new...@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:
> On 2009-11-10, Thesnowbaron <snow...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Could anyone please suggest the best material for repair that is heat
> > resistant and is disliked by Australian bush animals.
>
> I'll pop down the local Halfords and see what they reckon!!
>
> Would some chicken wire over it help, or something with smaller mesh?
Moth Balls (Naptha) keeps mice and rats out of my engine bay (and
interior) during layup. Arkansas.
HTH
Alan